all you need to open up. making abortion illegal is not stripping women of their rights but ensuring the rights of that child. life begins at conception not birth. the declaration of independece says that everyone has the right to LIFE liberty and the pursuit of happiness, this must be protected. in the event of rape or incest or what have you abortion is still not the answer everything happens for a reason and ood will come of it. people need to look at the other side and consider what they have to say but in this case anti-abortion is the right stance.
Bristol's Choice
Republicans and the illusion of reproductive choice.
Sep 8, 2008 | Updated: 1:49 p.m. ET Sep 8, 2008
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Posted By: morality @ 10/06/2008 7:37:51 PM
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Posted By: SunDeigo @ 09/27/2008 2:47:25 AM
BRISTOL HAS NO CHOICE WITH A MOTHER LIKE SARAH PALIN. LMAO
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Posted By: SunDeigo @ 09/27/2008 2:46:58 AM
NO YOU ARE NOT GOING TO TAKE AWAY OUR RIGHTS AS WOMAN THAT WE FOUGHT FOR SO HARD. LIVE YOUR RELIGION AND LEAVE US ALONE. BRISTOL'S ADULT FATHER OF HER CHILD SHOULD BE JAILDED FOR RAPE AND SEX OFFENDER AS SO MANY YOUND MAN HAVE TO WEAR THE CROWN OF SUCH AND BE LABELED SEX OFFENDER JUST LIKE ANYONE ELSE BUT THEN AGAIN ARE THEY LIKE ANYONE ELSE. NO THEY HAVE POWER. POWER TO MAKE YOU LOOSE YOUR JOB IF SHE PALIN DOENS'T LIKE YOU. POWER HER POWER IS USED FOR TO GREATER HERSELF AND HER OWN. THERE ARE LOTS OF YOUNG BOYS WHOM MUST GO THRU LIFE WITH THE LABLE UNLIKE BRISTOL'S BABY'S FATHER. WHY WHY WHY. SARAH SHOULD HAVE AT LEAST TAUGHT HER DAUGHTER SEX EDUCATION AT HOME. ABTINENCE DOES NOT WORK. IT'S US AS PARENTS TO TEACH THEM AT HOME IF NOT AT SCHOOL. YOU SARAH PALIN NOR YOU JOHN McCAIN IS GOING TO TELL ME IF I WERE RAPED THAT I DONT' HAVE THE FINAL AND ONLY SAY AS TO WHAT I NEED TO DO TO MY BODY. WHO THE HELL DO YOU THINK YOU ARE?
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Posted By: trustworthy @ 09/16/2008 7:02:39 PM
I'm looking forward to the valuable experience that Gov Palin will gain as VP. As a quick learner with executive experience, she is already being briefed on international hotspots . She is not pretentious or phony. She is honest and forthright as is Sen McCain. Regardless of your political views, we have two individuals that will work extraordinarily hard in making our country a better and safer place to live. I trust their honesty and judgment. I haven't been able to say that about any two politicians on the same ticket in my forty years of voting.
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Posted By: Larrykqc @ 09/16/2008 2:12:01 PM
As an independent, i find it interetsing if not illuminating that the author chooses to pursue myths about the candidate. Ms. Palin has never mandated creationism. She may have fired the libarian for one day as an exercise. However, the lady retired from this same jobs years later. Palin has never opposed the equal pay of the success of women. She is anti-abortion. Mr. Pailn is also bound to follow Senator McCain who has no policy supporting the RNC platform on immigration, gay marriage, He did speak out against RoeVWade eight years ago. But, is silent today. Two factors may enter in. First Cindy is pro choice. Second the majority of Americans are prochoice making it impossible to over-turn RoeVWade. The court will never go back against the last decision.
Our priorities should be economic. Obama's suggestions fly in the ace of economic theory. If jobs are lost due to high corporate taxes and over-regulation, why then does he plan to raise corporate and capital gains taxes and press for more regulation. And, when tax magin increases tend to drive tax revenues down, how can he justify higher taxes for employers - in a recession..
You democrats seem scared of something. You attempt to destroy the person with myths and fear-mongering. I suspect you are beaten in Nov becauee you have driven out truth and the independent voter. -
Posted By: Larrykqc @ 09/16/2008 2:00:23 PM
As an independent, Ifid it interesting that the suthor feels the need to falsify many facts. While the libarian was "fired" for one day as an exercise, she retire from her job yearss later, Palin never mandated creationism - ever. While she is anti-abortion, she has never worked for lower pay for women or that women can not succeed in business. In fact, her success is probably what galls the democrats. In the end, Roe V Wade is safe (while McCain does think it is flawed, he is silent today on the amendment. The author quotes an eight-year old statement, Palni is not only pro-women. She has budgeted toward that goal. Folks, the myths don't help. You sound like raging radicals with fear in their voices.
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Posted By: bammer @ 09/14/2008 12:48:53 PM
WHEN THE LIBERAL ELITE "MAIN STREAM MEDIA" INJECTS ITSELF INTO A NATIONAL US ELECTION, IT LEADS TO THE "LAW OF UNINTENDED CONSEQUENCES"
IF THERE'S WAS NO "MSM" BIAS AGAINST HILLARY, HILLARY WOULD BE THE US PRESIDENTIAL CANDIDATE AND OBAMA WOULD BE THE VP CANDIDATE
IF THE TICKET IS CLINTON/OBAMA.....THERE IS NO SARAH PALIN EFFECT
IF THERE IS NO SARAH PALIN, THERE IS MCCAIN/ROMNEY REPUB TICKET
THEREFORE, THERE WOULD BE 8 YEARS OF CLINTON/OBAMA ADMINISTRATION
THEREFORE, THERE WOULD BE 8 YEARS OF OBAMA/KEANE ADMINSTRATION
BY US LIBERAL ELITE MEDIA BACKING OBAMA AND TRASHING HILLARY, THEY LOSE A POSSIBLE 16 YEARS IN POWER AND WILL PROBABLY NOW LOSE 8 OUT OF THE LAST 11 PRESIDENTIAL ELECTIONS
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Posted By: maryanoushigian @ 09/14/2008 12:27:13 PM
The Democrats have to inform the "white working women" about Palin's stand on Anti-abortion, about not believing in equal pay for men and women and making teaching creationism obligatory at schools. I bet a lot of them will vote for Obama than!!!
We are living in the 21st century and women have to KEEP their right to make decisions regarding their bodies.Abortion should remain legal and safe. Those who want to keep their babies get to do so and those who are not ready, have an abortion.
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Posted By: maryanoushigian @ 09/14/2008 12:09:20 PM
The Republicans found the perfect woman canditate to run for VP. She is stupid enough to destroy womens' hard won rights all by herself,After being a success herself,she wants to ruin every woman's chance in the workplace (no equal pay at the office) in her personal life (unti-abortion laws,amongst these the guy who will bugger off after finding out his girlfiend is pregnent gets to decide whether she can have an abortion) teaching creationism at school (please, we've landed on Mars.Let s open our minds) .I hope the Democrats will inform all those "white women" voters how Ms Palin is going to ruin their lives.
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Posted By: rube @ 09/13/2008 8:02:05 PM
The man McCain who choose Sarah Palin for VP, well Palin is pretty- but does she have the needed experience in foreign policy, legislative policy and the national economy over all the GOP VP possibilities available?
Not even close!
There are 50-60 GOP legislators, senators etc. with far stronger and more viable resumes available!
Like I said Plain is pretty!
McCain choose Vanity over substance!
Now we know the definition of "Maverick!"
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Posted By: Mwalimu @ 09/13/2008 6:40:08 PM
Si shauri langu.
I wish I could find the exact English words for that Swahili expresson, but I can't. It means it's not under my juridiction or area of assigned (or even God-given) responsibility. That's my feeling about abortion. As a man I will never have to make that choice, so I'm willing to leave it up to women to decide.
I'm sorry to upset all the women who posted their attitudes about abortion on this blog, but I kjnow women who had abortions because they had no other choice and they do not feel the way you do. You're entitled to your beliefs, but you don't have the right to impose them on others. Getting rid of Roe vs. Wade will not eliminate abortions. It did not in the bad old days. If a woman is desperate enough, she will do any thing to terminate a pregnancy and that anything can be a real horror. Show.
Only Obama shows the intelligent judgemnt required. He made it clear that he supports an individual woman's right to make her own decision (as well as her religious beliefs.) but he does want to work to make abortion rare: that includes age-appropriate sex education, family planning, contraception and morning after pill. We have a high rate of abortion, not because it's legal (It legal in the Netherlands and their rate of abortion is much lower) -= it's because we do not do enough to prevent unplanned pregnancies.
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Posted By: desertlarose @ 09/13/2008 4:33:36 PM
Parents need to give their children vivid pictures and explanations what will happen when/IF they should get pregnant out of wedlock. Girls/Women must learn to be responsible when engaging in sex with boys. If they are not out of school and cannot support themselves, they'd better think twice before "fooling around." I learned this lesson from experience. I used to be Pro-Choice then and for many hears afterward, but through life I gained wisdom and now am pro LIFeE.
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Posted By: desertlarose @ 09/13/2008 4:29:02 PM
Under 18, I believe the pregnant teen should not be able to make the choice. She is still under her parents' guidance. The family is a strong Christian family and are following God's Word (The Bible). Women need to learn that there is great responsibility when engaging in sex...especially under age sex. That possible baby needs support. The couple should be sooo much in love and able to support a family IF the teenager should get pregnant. I am in agreement with John McCain re Roe v. Wade. I had two abortions...and used to be pro-choice. I have learned, through life, that it was wrong.
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Posted By: Gawdess101 @ 09/13/2008 10:34:47 AM
I agree with Stac73, and have my own arguments. Many people who are Pro-Life may not also think about the living conditions those children may face when born. Many of thoose pregnant teen moms never get anywhere because they have failed to achieve any higher education. Many can only get by with minimum wage and putting away dreams of a better life. People who have abortions do not set out on getting pregnant to INTENTIONALLY have an abortion. Many abortions are made of intricate situations. For example, my mother had an abortion when my father and her were raising my younger sister and I. They had an abortion based on the facts that they wouldnt be able to support three kids. They were still young parents and they had not yet found a career and so they aborted a child. Later in life they had my youngest sister, when they were able to support the three of us. I am not for abortions, or against it. I love kids, and I respect peoples choices. All Im saying is that goverment should respect the choices an individual has to face.
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Posted By: josemarti @ 09/12/2008 1:14:58 PM
Sarah Palin. De Profundis. Tennyson knew you. Whitman sang of you. So did Homer. Our Athena. Our Pallas Athena. Pallin Athena.
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Posted By: Stac73 @ 09/11/2008 12:21:16 PM
This is one of many, many reasons why I hope and pray that these 2 will NOT win in November. A woman's body is hers and hers alone and NO government should have ANY part in deciding what she can do with it. This is a very hot issue with many, but it just shows how over time, nothing has really changed in how women are viewed. Belive me, if there was ever a reason to regulate anything to do with a man and his parts, there would be such an outrage that it would never get passed. But because it's a woman, now we aren't allowed to have a choice or a say and everyone from a doctor to a freaking pharmacist can have their say????? WTF is with that backed up logic? What a sad world we live in.
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Posted By: desertlarose @ 09/13/2008 4:50:29 PM
Sorry, but a woman's body is NOT her own. It belongs to God and he has given us guidelines in His Word on how to cherish and respect and care for it. Roe v. Wade should be overturned. I pray every day that McCain/Palin will win this upcoming election. Stac73...women need to begin THINKING before having sex with boys that cannot support them and their "mistakes." Satan is our father on earth...and God is our Father in Heaven. It took my whole life to learn this lesson, and now I understand. I am a Christian and want always to do what is right! regardless of how much it hurts.
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Posted By: Gawdess101 @ 09/13/2008 10:22:56 AM
I agree With Stac73. How would anyone feel if they had to bring up a child when they didnt have the means to? How the mother and child, or small family would struggle, and how your kid could turn out all depends on the mothers decison. Some young women have the oppretunities to better things in life, and sometimes a kid can get in the way of achieving things like master degrees, and establishing a career. Kids are great. I personally love kids, and I am an aspiring Kindergarten Teacher. Some people do not have the means of bringing up a child, nor do they intentionally concieve to have an abortion. abortions are made because it is well thought out. My mother had an abortion when she had my sister and I, she did this because my father and her didnt have much money and they didn't want us to starve rather then bring another starvingchild into the world. Once they had enough money they had my last sister, and they could support the three of us. Some times abortions are made by god-loving people, who are pro-life, and who also believe a child shouldn't be born if it won't be ina good living enviornment.
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Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 09/11/2008 9:43:49 PM
It's not her body, Stacy, it is the baby's living body.
You and your ilk intentionally ignore this inconvienant, truth all the time.
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Posted By: azrights @ 09/11/2008 10:49:21 AM
They seek not just to ban abortion, but to re-define birth control pills as abortifacients. The argument is being put forward by the right that they believe a viable life begins at fertilization, not at conception. This new attack on the ability for women to control their reproductive rights is particularly disturbing given the rates of unplanned pregnancy. It should also be noted that Governor Palin belongs to "Feminists for Life," a group that claims it does not take a position on contraceptive use, but the information on its website has a clear anti-contraceptive message. Time magazine was wrong when it stated that the group was pro-contraceptive use. It is also unclear about how the candidates for the Republicans stand on this issue. It needs to be clearly defined as to the type of contraceptive use they believe is acceptable. The State of Alaska website lists the "Billings??? method as an alternative to contraceptive use, where is the study on the efficacy of it use? Of course, the only methods that help prevent disease and reduce unwanted pregnancy are abstinence and proper and consistent condom use, but that is not the question, it is the preferred attack on contraceptive use, used by many conservatives. The argument that contraceptives do not prevent STI's or STD's, which is not their intention, is not a legitimate argument against their use. Further, Secretary Leavitt is clearly trying to extend a small section of the United States Code to cover every workplace that accepts money from the Departments of Labor, Education and Health and Human Services, to include sub-grantees, including employees not paid under those grants and who may or may not have direct contact with a patient seeking medical advice. This proposed rule could include insurance companies and could likely cover pharmacies and other businesses not specified in the regulations. It is a blatant attempt to erode the rights of women to have control over their own medical care. We do have a right to know how the candidates feel about these issues and how that might translate into policy.
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Posted By: maddie17 @ 09/11/2008 9:49:26 AM
Banning abortion does not have anything to do with a woman's choice. You are murdering a baby. You should have thought about the fact that you didn't want a baby before you decided to have sex. It wasn't that innocent babies fault that you decided you didn't want it. To bad. You need to grow up and take responsibility for your actions. And a doctor or nurse should not have to perform an abortion if it goes against their beliefs. I believe they take an oath to heal people not kill them. And in the cases of rape and incest, God is all knowing and all powerful. He is in control ALL of the time. He never said our life would be easy or that we would like it but He does give us what we can handle. Congratulations to Mrs. Palin and her daughter for being role models that the country can look up to. They found themselves in a situation that was undesirable but stood up for what they believe. I am glad they taught Bristol to be the mature person that she is and take responsibiltiy for her actions.
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Posted By: Stac73 @ 09/11/2008 12:29:41 PM
It has EVERYTHING to do with a woman's choice. You know NOTHING of the circumstances that a woman can find herself in this situation yet you judge loud and proud. If a doctor doesn't want to perform a procudure, that's fine. Chances are, they won't be in that position since most places that do abortions only staff doctors who will. I believe in God, but I also believe that if a woman suffers a severely tramatic experience she should not have to also suffer those consequences by being FORCED to have a child. A woman's body should NOT be regulated by the governement plain and simple. And your obvious adoration of Palin is typically one sided. Her daughter in no way had a choice with her decision. Not based on how Pail thinks and feels. There is only 1 choice she was forced with: have the baby and get married. And it's not something to be proud of. At all.
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Posted By: fccFH @ 09/11/2008 10:06:41 AM
Maddie17- Here is what you are not getting. Not everyone in the country believes that God is in control all of the time. So it is extraordinarily unfair of you impose your beliefs onto someone who wants a procedure that they deem to have no affiliation with the All Mighty. The fetus is not a baby. If it were to be born within the first trimester it would have a zero chance of survival, so you really arent killing anything. Yes there are doctors who believe this statement to be incorrect, but there are many that believe it to be fact; and will continue to uphold their beliefs and perform the procedure even if it were illegal. Under those circumstances a women would be putting her own health at risk. No matter how hard you pray, there will never be a point in the future of this country where every person feels that abortion is murder- so stop trying to convince people otherwise. No matter who becomes president, this debate will continue because the country is divided on this seemingly moot issue. Therefore why cant we put this issue aside, and focus on what really affects our country- education, the economy, foreign policy, and the war in Iraq and Afghanistan. You can continue fighting this pointless debate, but nothing is ever going to change- no matter what McCain says to you (and by the way, have you noted what his stance is on this issue- put aside Palin, because it is not her policy that will go into effect- McCain is not going to go to bat on this issue). Fight the important relevant fight, and let this pointless issue be. You want to object fine, don???t have an abortion yourself, but stop imposing your biased will on others.
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Posted By: Anonymous2740 @ 09/11/2008 10:26:36 AM
"so you really arent killing anything"
The fetus is an immature baby, and it is alive. If it were dead, it would be ejected from the uterus. While it may not be able to survive on its own without the mother, the same can be said about many children, but we aren't allowing parents to kill their children are we?
It's tragic and pathetic what some people will fool themselves into believing for selfishness and convenience. Also, I really don't have a problem with mothers that would kill their own unborn baby going to back-rooms or back-allies to get their abortions performed. If we are lucky, they will get a taste of their own medicine. Society would be better off without such people anyway. And, by the way, I'm agnostic (leaning toward atheism), so my pro-innocent-life stance is rooted in human rights and decency not theology.-
Posted By: fccFH @ 09/11/2008 10:39:58 AM
Do you not see the hypocrisy in what you just said? You feel that the women who have abortions should get a taste for their own medicine? If it is so important for the baby to be kept alive, why are you so vehement in saying it is alright for the mother to die? I would think someone that wants to protect life would want every person involved to survive. Please explain to me why one life is more valuable than the other? Your argument makes no sense. You do not seem to actually care about human survival- so please explain this to me. I do not mean for this to come out as an attack, I really want to understand why you feel this way.
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Posted By: madison1206 @ 09/11/2008 12:15:08 PM
FccFH- I completely agree with your posts. Bottom line is, abortion is not going to be made illegal. The only reason it seems like it is a possibility right now is that the Republican party needs the conservative vote and they weren't all completely sold on McCain alone. If they take the White House I think it is likely that this issue will be shelved until they need it again. Unfortunately, it is working and people are voting solely on this issue rather then looking at the big picture. If you are behind all the right-wing politics then by all means, vote republican. But please don't vote just because you think a vote for McCain will outlaw abortion....it won't. What really gets me is that Pro-lifers try to paint Pro-choice as Pro-abortion. I have never heard of anyone wanting people to get abortions just because. Pro-choicers just tend to be a little more realistic about the world. In a perfect world, there would be no unwanted pregnancies and everyone who wanted to adopt would be able to but let's face it, that is not reality. If we want to really try to reduce the number of abortions there is a way. Everyone (pro-life and pro-choice) need to focus on what will lower that number.....education!
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Posted By: madison1206 @ 09/11/2008 12:07:40 PM
FccFH- I completely agree with your posts! Botton line is, abortion is not going to be made illegal. The only reason it seems like that is a possibility right now is that the Republican party needs the conservative vote. If they take the White House, this issue will be shelved again until they need it once more. Unfortunately, it is working and many people are focusing solely on this issue rather then looking at the big picture. What really gets me is that Pro-lifers want to paint Pro-choice to mean the same thing as Pro-abortion. I don't think you will find one person who wants abortions to happen. Pro-choicers just tend to be a little more realistic about how the world works. In a perfect world, there would be no unwanted pregnanacies but that's just not reality. If we really want to change this, then everyone (pro-life or pro-choice) needs to focus on what will really will reduce the number of abortions- education!
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Posted By: Anonymous2740 @ 09/11/2008 11:40:30 AM
There is nothing hypocritical in what I just said. I am pro-innocent-life. That means I can be for the death penalty for murderers and against abortion at the same time. The baby is always innocent and a mother that would kill her own baby certainly is not. Of course, the best scenario is for the mother and the baby to live.
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Posted By: fccFH @ 09/11/2008 12:11:44 PM
I understand your point. I disagree, but I do get it. I think there are a lot of variables that are not being considered. Sometimes that fetus is not so innocent. If in the case of drugs or rape, the fetus could have been conceived in a manner that would put its own life at risk, and very often the mothers. For many people that are considering an abortion they do not feel or think that what is in them, given it is so early in the process, is truly a living and breathing human being. You have to understand that at this point the fetus truly isnt living. During the first trimester the babys chance of survival if born is zero- not to sound cold or heartless (or that I truly think this way), but to some people, the fetus, at this point, has as much relevance as the appendix. Soon-to-be mothers have not had the ability to connect with something that they deem as important as their appendix, and when weighing their options, considering that they could be bringing a child into a world where they may not be able to afford it, offer proper health care, or even want- the child could end up growing up in poverty, crime, with poor or no education??? if put into adoption there is no saying that the child will end up any better. And in some of the most extreme cases, look at some mothers who did have the baby, kept it and end up doing terrible things- maiming the child, keeping the child in a malnourished state, and in some moments of insanity, actually killing the child. This is not a better scenario.
I know many of you reading this are keeling over, and before anyone goes jumping down my throat on this (which I welcome, but just think about this at least), I am not saying that I personally agree with the thought process that leads to having an abortion- but what I can at least understand is that no matter what I feel, or think, some women who are in this position will continue to still have abortions. There is nothing I can do to stop it. Even if it is made illegal, it will continue, and only in a riskier fashion. The likelihood that abortion would be made illegal in this country is extremely slim. Too many people vehemently support and are against it- it will forever be an issue that has people at two extreme sides; and though it is an important issue, it really is a distraction. It just seems that considering the many issues that plague this country, this is an issue that should be put on the backburner.
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Posted By: BobCu @ 09/10/2008 10:44:22 PM
Of course Bristol wanted to have her baby. Abortion is legal and it should be legal, but only an idiot would kill her own fetus.
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Posted By: vote4obamanow @ 09/10/2008 6:51:59 PM
Who wants to adopt a crack baby?.....no one?..ok I thought so..
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Posted By: amycnote @ 09/10/2008 6:58:14 PM
thank you!
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Posted By: Vaughn09 @ 09/10/2008 6:40:31 PM
Please find for me just ten women who are over the age of 30 who had an abortion that will say it was a good decision and they would do it again. Good luck
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Posted By: amycnote @ 09/10/2008 6:57:11 PM
I'm not sure what your point is about the over 30 thing, but I had an abortion when I was 20 and I'm glad I did it and though it was a traumatic experience, I would definitely do it again - DEFINITELY. Women can make decisions about their bodies and mine was well-informed and MY DECISION. Btw, I started taking birth control after this happened so as not to have to go through anything like that ever again.
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Posted By: Honestly22 @ 09/10/2008 4:47:01 PM
I have three questions:
Are you pro life?
Do you believe in God?
Do you support the welfare system?
Bill O'Reilly, the media mouthpiece for the Republican party stated on Dec 19, 2007 in discussing the pregnancy of teen ,Jamie Lynn Spears (sister of Britney Spears) said that "the blame falls primarily on the parents, who obviously has little control over her."
Bill O' Reillys recent stance on teen pregnancy has changed in defense of Palin. His current statement on teen pregnancy is, "as long as society does not have to support the mother, baby or father, it is a personal family matter."
Now, I am not saying O'Reilly speaks for all Republicans, only that he is a republican mouthpiece.
It is not even the hypocrisy of these 2 statements that bother me most, it is the statement that "as long as society does not have to support the mother, baby or father", that I find most troubling.
Translating this into laymans terms means this is a family matter for the rich and not the poor.
There is something fundamentally wrong with being pro life and against welfare at the same time. Welfare is the only federally funded program available that would support a pro life stance for poor teen mothers that have no or minimal family support. The subsidies reaped from welfare are marginal at best.
There is something fundamentally wrong with supporting a pro life stance with Gods will. The God I am familiar with, would not condemn poor teen mothers.
The dilema here is, you don't want these poor teen mothers to have access to abortions, yet if you oppose welfare, there are no provisions available for them to make a pro life decision.
When the use of God becomes a marketing tool to further a political agenda, it turns into doublespeak and devalues God.
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Posted By: MarvAlan @ 09/10/2008 4:34:44 PM
Finally someone who saw the hypocrisy in the "decision" line. But there was another, more sinister, statement in her press release about Bristol???s pregnancy that has yet to be discussed. In her press release Palin said was ???proud??? of her daughter???s "decision" to carry to term, and she also said that she and her husband were "excited and proud" that they were going to become grandparents. Well, if that was really true, why wasn't Levi, the proud father and husband to be, introduced when Palin was introduced by McCain as his VP choice? Bristol was there. Palin introduced all of her children and raved about them. Why didn???t she also say at that time that ???I also want you to know that Todd and I are so proud and excited that we are going to be grandparents, and here is Bristol and her soon to be husband Levi???? The answer is simple. McCain/Rove/Palin made a conscience decision NOT to say this - to wait until they had to make a disclosure (maybe 2 months until after the election?). Announcing the pregnancy when Palin was introduced would have taken away from the ???perfection??? of Palin as the ???perfect??? symbol of parenthood. She and Todd weren???t ???proud??? to become grandparents, they tried to hide it (Why was Bristol holding Trig with a blanket over her stomach? Was it to hide that fact that she was pregnant?). And, people, tell the truth. How ???proud??? of your daughter would you be if she was 17 and came home and told you she was pregnant? How ???happy??? would you be that she was going to get married at 17 to a high school drop-out? How proud and happy would you be to have the young man who had sex with your under-age daughter join your family? That???s not to say that you would not support your daughter and help her anyway you could. But with all due respect, this was not a happy event for the Palin family.
What I am saying here will be construed as becoming ???personal??? about Palin and bringing her family into the public eye. Beside the fact that she has done that herself, this has nothing to do with the pregnancy, but the integrity of Palin/McCain/Rove in presenting it to the public. The cynical way the Republican???s delayed and then ???disclosed??? the family???s ???joy??? is shameful. This is exactly the kind of deceit we have seen from Bush/Cheney/Rove for 8 years. Oh, yes, there are WMDs in Iraq??? oh, no there are not. The war has been won ??? oh, no it has not. The war will only cost tax payers 90 Billion Dollars ??? oh, no it will cost close to a Trillion Dollars and devastate our economy. Sarah Palin has already joined the Republican ???spin??? club, and she used her daughter???s own pregnancy as her application. -
Posted By: MarvAlan @ 09/10/2008 4:34:31 PM
Finally someone who saw the hypocrisy in the "decision" line. But there was another, more sinister, statement in her press release about Bristol???s pregnancy that has yet to be discussed. In her press release Palin said was ???proud??? of her daughter???s "decision" to carry to term, and she also said that she and her husband were "excited and proud" that they were going to become grandparents. Well, if that was really true, why wasn't Levi, the proud father and husband to be, introduced when Palin was introduced by McCain as his VP choice? Bristol was there. Palin introduced all of her children and raved about them. Why didn???t she also say at that time that ???I also want you to know that Todd and I are so proud and excited that we are going to be grandparents, and here is Bristol and her soon to be husband Levi???? The answer is simple. McCain/Rove/Palin made a conscience decision NOT to say this - to wait until they had to make a disclosure (maybe 2 months until after the election?). Announcing the pregnancy when Palin was introduced would have taken away from the ???perfection??? of Palin as the ???perfect??? symbol of parenthood. She and Todd weren???t ???proud??? to become grandparents, they tried to hide it (Why was Bristol holding Trig with a blanket over her stomach? Was it to hide that fact that she was pregnant?). And, people, tell the truth. How ???proud??? of your daughter would you be if she was 17 and came home and told you she was pregnant? How ???happy??? would you be that she was going to get married at 17 to a high school drop-out? How proud and happy would you be to have the young man who had sex with your under-age daughter join your family? That???s not to say that you would not support your daughter and help her anyway you could. But with all due respect, this was not a happy event for the Palin family.
What I am saying here will be construed as becoming ???personal??? about Palin and bringing her family into the public eye. Beside the fact that she has done that herself, this has nothing to do with the pregnancy, but the integrity of Palin/McCain/Rove in presenting it to the public. The cynical way the Republican???s delayed and then ???disclosed??? the family???s ???joy??? is shameful. This is exactly the kind of deceit we have seen from Bush/Cheney/Rove for 8 years. Oh, yes, there are WMDs in Iraq??? oh, no there are not. The war has been won ??? oh, no it has not. The war will only cost tax payers 90 Billion Dollars ??? oh, no it will cost close to a Trillion Dollars and devastate our economy. Sarah Palin has already joined the Republican ???spin??? club, and she used her daughter???s own pregnancy as her application. -
Posted By: ajkriv @ 09/10/2008 2:56:17 PM
this is an excellent article.
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Posted By: Shannon in FL @ 09/10/2008 2:33:54 PM
It always amazes me how volatile the pro-lifers get over saving a BABY, but adults can fry for all they're concerned. The fanatics blowing up clinics have killed doctors, women, and the babies they were pregnant with. I am so sick of the hypocrisy of organized religion and everyone's "good intentions".
This is the thing: I have guns in my home. I was raised hunting and have no problem defending my family should the need arise. But for all those people caught up in Obama's "religion and guns" remark, give me a break. He's talking about the loonies. The nut jobs that cannot and will not listen to anything that doesn't fall within their limited belief system.
Government should not be involved in religion - and religion has NO PLACE in government.
Obama/Biden '08 - because it is about REALITY, not what the Republicans tell you is reality. Wake up, America!-
Posted By: amycnote @ 09/10/2008 6:51:20 PM
Amen!
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Posted By: villiefried @ 09/10/2008 1:24:38 PM
I???m scared. I???m scared of Senator McCain and Gov. Palin . . . not really. I???m not scared of them personally. I???m scared of what they could do to this country. Really. I???m scared that a whole lot of people are ignoring or not even bothering to find out that McCain votes against increasing and creating benefits for veterans; supports a tax policy that maintains the burden on the working poor and middle class while benefiting the rich; that Palin hates homosexuals, books, and polar bears; that she lied to her party and the American people during her speech . . . that people will vote for this ticket because there???s a woman on it, that people don???t know that drilling for oil in Alaska and on the shelf will not yield usable gasoline for 7 to 10 years and WILL harm the environment. I???m scared that millions of disadvantaged children will never see the inside of a University, that we will attack Iran and Russia, that jobs will continue to go over-seas, that our constitutional rights will be further diminished, that corporations will continue to take jobs away from hardworking Americans, that fraud will reign supreme as it has and as it did in the 1980s (McCain was fully supportive of Charles Keating by the way), that women will no longer have reproductive freedom, that extremist Christianity will take hold and fester and ruin this country . . . I???m scared of continuing this list. Why aren???t other???s scared? Why are people enamored with a person who has lied to them? How could people stand with someone who smiled and proudly and confidently lied that she sold a jet on ebay when, in fact, she hadn???t sold it on ebay and took a loss on it as well? Why would someone stand with someone who opposes abortion but refuses to fund commonsense programs to prevent teen pregnancies? It???s too much. These two praise federal aid to the poor of foreign countries but disdain federal aid to help the poor of THIS country. What is it? Are costumes THAT convincing? Killers wear masks. Are you scared? You should be; but more than that you should be scared and THINKING. As a woman, I am appalled that women would vote for this ticket with this woman on it knowing or not knowing, whatever the case may be, that she is dangerous. If they win and we get four more years of heartbreak you will only have yourselves to blame. What then? Will it be too late? This election is too important to get behind some kind of schoolyard contest between the boys and the girls ??? just because there???s a girl to take on the boys. This will affect people???s lives, your lives. Is your life, your children???s lives, your love???s, your friends???, your family???s worth nothing compared to ???just getting a woman in there??? no matter how awful she is? Please think about this.
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Posted By: villiefried @ 09/10/2008 1:22:48 PM
I???m scared. I???m scared of Senator McCain and Gov. Palin . . . not really. I???m not scared of them personally. I???m scared of what they could do to this country. Really. I???m scared that a whole lot of people are ignoring or not even bothering to find out that McCain votes against increasing and creating benefits for veterans; supports a tax policy that maintains the burden on the working poor and middle class while benefiting the rich; that Palin hates homosexuals, books, and polar bears; that she lied to her party and the American people during her speech . . . that people will vote for this ticket because there???s a woman on it, that people don???t know that drilling for oil in Alaska and on the shelf will not yield usable gasoline for 7 to 10 years and WILL harm the environment. I???m scared that millions of disadvantaged children will never see the inside of a University, that we will attack Iran and Russia, that jobs will continue to go over-seas, that our constitutional rights will be further diminished, that corporations will continue to take jobs away from hardworking Americans, that fraud will reign supreme as it has and as it did in the 1980s (McCain was fully supportive of Charles Keating by the way), that women will no longer have reproductive freedom, that extremist Christianity will take hold and fester and ruin this country . . . I???m scared of continuing this list. Why aren???t other???s scared? Why are people enamored with a person who has lied to them? How could people stand with someone who smiled and proudly and confidently lied that she sold a jet on ebay when, in fact, she hadn???t sold it on ebay and took a loss on it as well? Why would someone stand with someone who opposes abortion but refuses to fund commonsense programs to prevent teen pregnancies? It???s too much. These two praise federal aid to the poor of foreign countries but disdain federal aid to help the poor of THIS country. What is it? Are costumes THAT convincing? Killers wear masks. Are you scared? You should be; but more than that you should be scared and THINKING. As a woman, I am appalled that women would vote for this ticket with this woman on it knowing or not knowing, whatever the case may be, that she is dangerous. If they win and we get four more years of heartbreak you will only have yourselves to blame. What then? Will it be too late? This election is too important to get behind some kind of schoolyard contest between the boys and the girls ??? just because there???s a girl to take on the boys. This will affect people???s lives, your lives. Is your life, your children???s lives, your love???s, your friends???, your family???s worth nothing compared to ???just getting a woman in there??? no matter how awful she is? Please think about this.
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Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 09/10/2008 1:14:28 PM
What McCAin is trying to ABORT a FEDERAL INVESTIGATION on SARAH PALIN as she is guilty of ETHICS VIOLATIONS, I mean if she were INOCENT, let the investigation go on, nothing to hide right. But if SHE IS GUILTY, stop the investigation before it's too late.
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Posted By: Tominator @ 09/10/2008 12:45:01 PM
Lets see, discussions with parents should never happen. Good idea from your point of view. That is why so many of the minority children end up dead before they get a chance to live. They die from abortion and then they die from gunshot wounds after birth or they die in prison. No supervision, no discipline and no parental discussion sure is effective. It all starts with no respect for life. You just do not get it.
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Posted By: jmario @ 09/10/2008 12:26:30 PM
I'm a pro-choice woman, but the fact of the matter is Roe v. Wade IS flawed. It was one of the most egregious examples of legislating from the bench in our nation's history. Laws are meant to be written by the legislature, not the judiciary. That's one of the most basic tenets of our constitution, and one we should abide by.
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Posted By: All's Fair @ 09/10/2008 5:15:43 PM
Actually, under our Constitution, law can be made by all three branches of government--and it is all the time. All the time. Congress has had more than three decades to pass legislation changing Roe v. Wade and has not done it. That says everything one needs to know about how acceptable Roe is to the majority of the nation. Anti-choice voters are outnumbered by pro-choice voters. The anti-choice movement cannot get the Congress to do what it wants, so it has turned to the courts--an ironic attempt to get the judiciary to "legislate".
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Posted By: rf1978 @ 09/10/2008 12:26:24 PM
I belive Palin is a very dangerous woman and we should be looking at her track record and not at how she can field dress a moose, and how pretty you think she is. The fact is she preaches abstinence and her 17 year old daughter is pregnant! That speaks volumes of her parenting skills. She has no business running for VP she should be at home being a parent to her kids, because it is apparent the need one
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Posted By: Shannon in FL @ 09/10/2008 12:13:48 PM
Thank you for this article. I've been having this discussion a lot lately with friends and co-workers. My position is that (whether or not you agree with abortion) when the choice is taken from you about one thing regarding YOUR BODY, where does it stop? If doctors and clergy and legislators all have the right to make decisions about our bodies, what prevents us from sliding down the slippery slope? Today, we can't be trusted to make informed decisions about being pregnant...should we be allowed to vote? To work outside the home? To get divorced?
The radical right doesn't realize that when you give the government power over one thing, it is increasingly difficult to retain power over anything else. I do not think abortion is something I would choose for myself. However, the choice should be there, whether or not you EVER use it.
I've known women who use abortion as a form of birth control, which I find disgusting. I also have a sister who was raped in college and had an abortion. She showed "signs of depression", too...because of the trauma she'd gone through. She eventually married and had a child, and is a devoted member of her church. She does not regret the decision she made and would never vote for someone who would have insisted she carry a rapist's child in her body.
I am a woman. I am a mother. I am a wife. I believe in God and the United States of America. I work hard and our family is considered 'middle class'. I believe in a woman's right to choose...because if we can be trusted to VOTE, we can be trusted to make decisions about our BODIES.
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Posted By: cuppa jo @ 09/10/2008 12:13:19 PM
Stop trying to scare people. Roe vs. Wade has survived through rep administrations before, why would it change now? You don't like Palin b/c she is not a LIBERAL.
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Posted By: cpalanza @ 09/10/2008 11:16:45 AM
I think the most disturbing thing about this issue is that fundamentally this country is going to move away from an ideologoy of separation of church and state. While I respect (adamantly disagree) the prolifer's views on abortion and the right to choose, I cannot accept those that would be aganist a womans right to choose in the event of rape. I think its disgusting. There is statistical evidence and studies showing that rape aggressors (ie criminals) that are predisposed to this type of behavior could then pass that genetic predisposition on to the child. The psychological and sociological effectst that a child who is a product of rape will not only financially burden our society but potentially criminally burden it as well. The right side is against government involvement and big government, but limiting choice of women only insures that our government will have to continue to fund social/welfare/psychological/criminal rehab programs to pay for all the children born to women that are not afforded the right to choose. Who else will? we are going to allow all these precious children to be born and then not help a 15 year old mother take care of them? or a 27 year single woman who has a downs baby and needs Respit care, or a woman that is raped who may not be able to care for a child? I am appaled by the extremist approach to this topic in the republican ticket and can only hope for the future sake of this country people will realize, that while the right to choose is our own inherent right as human beings (regardless of constitutional amendments, decisions by Supreme Court and/or legislative body) people should not be infriged upon by government. All the repubicans can go have tons of babies and be happy but dont over burden me because I make the decision not to.
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Posted By: cpalanza @ 09/10/2008 11:14:36 AM
I think the most disturbing thing about this issue is that fundamentally this country is going to move away from an ideologoy of separation of church and state. While I respect (adamantly disagree) the prolifer's views on abortion and the right to choose, I cannot accept those that would be aganist a womans right to choose in the event of rape. I think its disgusting. There is statistical evidence and studies showing that rape aggressors (ie criminals) that are predisposed to this type of behavior could then pass that genetic predisposition on to the child. The psychological and sociological effectst that a child who is a product of rape will not only financially burden our society but potentially criminally burden it as well. The right side is against government involvement and big government, but limiting choice of women only insures that our government will have to continue to fund social/welfare/psychological/criminal rehab programs to pay for all the children born to women that are not afforded the right to choose. Who else will? we are going to allow all these precious children to be born and then not help a 15 year old mother take care of them? or a 27 year single woman who has a downs baby and needs Respit care, or a woman that is raped who may not be able to care for a child? I am appaled by the extremist approach to this topic in the republican ticket and can only hope for the future sake of this country people will realize, that while the right to choose is our own inherent right as human beings (regardless of constitutional amendments, decisions by Supreme Court and/or legislative body) people should not be infriged upon by government. All the repubicans can go have tons of babies and be happy but dont over burden me because I make the decision not to.
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Posted By: Fallenwish43 @ 09/10/2008 10:58:41 AM
This is a great article. Well said!
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Posted By: FredHait @ 09/10/2008 10:29:30 AM
Do you know for a fact that Bristol Palin did not herself make the choice to keep the baby and to marry the father?
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Posted By: fox610 @ 09/10/2008 10:28:31 AM
McCain's choice for VP should of offened women. Thinking he can appiont a female just to get the Hillary supporters. I thought women had evolved, I guess I was wrong. For women supporters of Hillary ,not to vote
for Obama because he didn't pick her for VP, proves as women we still act on emotion and are easily
manipulated. What they need to understand is ,they are not hurting Obama by not voting for him, they are
hurting themselves, their children ,grandchildren and their futures. Get off your emotional rollercoasters and
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Posted By: Shannon in FL @ 09/10/2008 2:41:12 PM
Well said. Voting for her because she has the same equipment is outright STUPIDITY. Yes, I'm a woman. Yes, I vote. Yes, I'm smart enough to view Sarah Palin as a ploy to lure the simpletons away from the issues. Don't be persuaded because she's "pretty" and religious...FOLLOW THE ISSUES.
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Posted By: josemarti @ 09/10/2008 10:31:29 AM
Is that the sound of Bella Abzug rolling in her grave?
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Posted By: PlebianReader @ 09/10/2008 10:21:41 AM
I find it entertaining that people who oppose this viewpoint do so simply by name-calling (making 'liberal' a dirty word) and accusing pro-choice advocates of trampling on their rights--be it as parents, as evangelicals, or whatnot. If you could give us some hard proof, and better yet, a logically thought-out argument that involves more than accusations and straw-man fallacies, that would be more conducive to progress. But simply insisting on your own viewpoint to the exclusion of anyone else's is pure bigotry.
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Posted By: fox610 @ 09/10/2008 10:12:54 AM
McCain's choice for VP should of offened women. Thinking he can appiont a female just to get the Hillary supporters. I thought women had evolved, I guess I was wrong. For women supporters of Hillary ,not to vote
for Obama because he didn't pick her for VP, proves as women we still act on emotion and are easily
manipulated. What they need to understand is ,they are not hurting Obama by not voting for him, they are
hurting themselves, their children ,grandchildren and their futures. Get off your emotional rollercoasters and
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Posted By: liddykitty @ 09/10/2008 10:29:04 AM
Not that I agree with your remark but as a former constituent of Obama's, I can't say that he has done anything great for the state of Illinois, so maybe you could please tell me why someone would vote for him? He saw fit to vote present so much, instead of making a decision that I am wondering how he could be ready to make decisions for the entire US. Please I really would like to know because as a lower income parent his talk sounds good.
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Posted By: footballmom @ 09/10/2008 12:57:01 PM
You don't "mind" a black person as president? Well that's mightly nice of you.....
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Posted By: Yougottabekidding @ 09/10/2008 10:09:38 AM
OMG! Could you be any more onesided?! I don't know why I am surprised. In a society where we increasingly have parental rights stripped from us, why not this parental right also. You can't have it both ways people. We either are parents, or we aren't. Let us raise our children as we see fit, and maybe our kids will be better able to make these sorts of decisions - or maybe they won't have to make these sorts of decisions, because we will be teach them safer ways to express/explore their growing sexuality.
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Posted By: robt55 @ 09/10/2008 9:49:29 AM
I have a novel thought for all of you who relish the opportunity to show your independence and freedom by sucking the brains from the skulls of the unborn. If women had greater self respect, the belief that they could achieve reasonable goals, along with highly visible, highly accomplished role models, just possibly their now wasted time would be spent pursuing dreams.
Imagine that; if you are a young girl with real, achievable dreams and viable opportunities just maybe you wouldn't be inclined to build your self esteem through your boyfriend???s accomplishments or worse yet, spread your legs for every guy who walks down the street. With dreams a possibility, he now might interfere with your hearts deepest desires. BTW, I am the father of two daughters who are pursuing their dreams by attending Bryn Mawr College on music scholarships.-
Posted By: footballmom @ 09/10/2008 12:18:36 PM
Really?! Do you think everyone lives in your world? You have no idea what a woman goes through in making this decision. It's great that you raised such wonderful daughters -- are you saying there's something wrong with Palin's daughter because she got pregnant? Or was Palin a bad parent because her daughter couldn't keep her legs closed?
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Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 09/10/2008 9:35:53 AM
Lithwick does not have a hit-list of names of the children of Liberals on it!
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Posted By: lizzybrown65 @ 09/10/2008 9:33:47 AM
It is very unlikely that a 17 year old would have a baby with Down's Syndrome. If you do your research, actually do your research, you will discover that babies with Down Syndrom are those with moms in their upper 30's and 40's.
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Posted By: Matt01 @ 09/10/2008 3:33:58 PM
No actually there are more young women having babies with Downs etc because more young women have babies
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Posted By: josemarti @ 09/10/2008 9:29:38 AM
According to an eye witness, a dramatic scene developed last night at a seance on the Upper West Side of Manhattan when the spirit of Bella Abzug suddenly appeared. She asked for a pastrami sandwhich and then addressed the frightnened guests. "Sisters, sisters, have we fought this long and hard to see this white trash become the first woman vice-president? No. No. and no. Her election would be a major set back for Upper West Side women and Chicago Gold Coast women. We must unite to defeat this threat.". When asked what Hell was like,she said: "Just like Sartre said in No Exit. I share a room with Rock Hudson and Mickey Mantle." After she disappeared, the group was left energized and more ready than ever to support Barack Obama.
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Posted By: dmamara @ 09/17/2008 2:08:01 PM
JoseMarti: I am sorry to know that you are a Democrat, I can't believe the words that are falling out of your mouth. Are you really this ignorant or is this just an act because you THINK somehow it'll make people follow you? You should stop being such a snob because really having money does NOT make you a better person or you can start hanging out with careerdaytrader
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Posted By: paproudmom @ 09/10/2008 2:59:00 PM
From your previous postings you seem to equate a persons value with money. You seem to think somehow you are superior. Frankly, judging from your comments the one I would label trash is you. What has this women done to be labeled as such. Probably she just disagrees with your type and your poisoned narrow world view. I'd feel sorry for you but your really not worth the effort. Oh and I'll let you in on a little secret. Not everyone with money or education feels like you.
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Posted By: mweber22 @ 09/10/2008 3:46:52 AM
OK OK media....we get it! you dont want Palin to have any popularity. You will do ANYTHING, print ANY story to try and manipulate america's opinion. That's because you see a threat in her... a threat to your liberal cause. You would never want a conservative woman to rise to power, simply because she doesnt necessarily hold all of your ideals. You feel threatened that perhaps she could change the political landscape and is not the type of woman you see as having Vice Presidential status. I know most of the people reading these articles agree with EVERYTHING Newsweek has to say about her, however; many Americans dont and are waking up the bias. Instead of holding only politicians who you dont agree with accountable you should hold all of them (yes including liberal democrats). i see how you are clandestinley trying to ruin her future. Newsweek and many other media sources are taking up the opportunity to destroy Palin's reputation, she's a newcomer and this is there one chance. sure she deserves to be questioned, however, if it were a liberal it would have NEVER been done so viciously and you would not be working so hard as to paint an unfair and biased picture of her. you really are doing a disservice to the american people by not being fair and balanced. let us decide ourselves and hold all politicians to the same level of accountability. I am 20 years old and can tell theres an agenda. thats pretty sad. didnt journalism teach you anything about fair reporting?!?!
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Posted By: footballmom @ 09/10/2008 1:01:56 PM
Well maybe if she'd answer some questions instead of just being the attack pit bull, maybe people would learn the truth about her. All we have to go on is what's reported in the news. There is factual information too -- check out politifact.org
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Posted By: liddykitty @ 09/11/2008 11:05:36 AM
Well not all the cantidates that are running can get the press to agree to only questions they allow like OBAMA.
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Posted By: Shannon in FL @ 09/10/2008 2:46:52 PM
She is nothing like me. Nor is she like anyone else I know. Then again, I don't socialize with overly religious people who look down on everyone who doesn't believe exactly what they believe. Intolerance and fanaticism gives me hives.
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Posted By: mweber22 @ 09/10/2008 3:44:43 AM
OK OK media....we get it! you dont want Palin to have any popularity. You will do ANYTHING, print ANY story to try and manipulate america's opinion. That's because you see a threat in her... a threat to your liberal cause. You would never want a conservative woman to rise to power, simply because she doesnt necessarily hold all of your ideals. You feel threatened that perhaps she could change the political landscape and is not the type of woman you see as having Vice Presidential status. I know most of the people reading these articles agree with EVERYTHING Newsweek has to say about her, however; many Americans dont and are waking up the bias. Instead of holding only politicians who you dont agree with accountable you should hold all of them (yes including liberal democrats). i see how you are clandestinley trying to ruin her future. Newsweek and many other media sources are taking up the opportunity to destroy Palin's reputation, she's a newcomer and this is there one chance. sure she deserves to be questioned, however, if it were a liberal it would have NEVER been done so viciously and you would not be working so hard as to paint an unfair and biased picture of her. you really are doing a disservice to the american people by not being fair and balanced. let us decide ourselves and hold all politicians to the same level of accountability. I am 20 years old and can tell theres an agenda. thats pretty sad. didnt journalism teach you anything about fair reporting?!?!
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Posted By: Truelife @ 09/17/2008 8:35:05 PM
Guess you didn't catch the Charlie Gibson interview..Not much substance to that 'Sarah Palin'. And to ALL the women out there that believe that a womans body isn't their own. MAYBE just MAYBE PUT YOURSELF in the shoes of the girls and women who are may have been malested or RAPED and become pregnant. and you have the nerve to say a womans body isn't there own. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!!!
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Posted By: Cate75 @ 09/10/2008 3:00:13 AM
So many of these gun happy people want to protect the right to bear arms. Yet guns only serve the purpose of killing things. Yet, they are up in arms regarding abortion because they believe it is murder. Something is not right with this picture. PLEASE TELL ME WHY OUR SOLDIER's SUICIDE RATE IS THE HIGHER THAN OUR OWN COUNTRY's RATE? YOU ARE WORRIED ABOUT PROTECTING GUNS AND ABORTION??!!
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Posted By: Cate75 @ 09/10/2008 2:51:26 AM
Dear Happy American:
SHE HAS PLENTY TO TALK ABOUT BECAUSE SHE WAS RECITING A SPEECH BY A BUSH SPEECH WRITER. IF SHE HAS SO MUCH TO DISCUSS, THEN WHY IS SHE BEING TRAINED IN A HILTON ON FOREIGN POLICY BY MCCAIN's STAFF???? SHE DOES NOT GIVE INTERVIEWS BECAUSE SHE WILL PUT HER FOOT IN HER MOUTH!!!!! WHAT ARE GUNS FOR? TO KILL THINGS!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Posted By: HarleyisHere @ 09/10/2008 12:47:38 AM
Hopefully Bristols SECOND child will be fine, but it was brave of BRISTOL to choose to have Trig, and even more interesting that mom is claiming him, even thought she after having 4 kids NEVER showed that she was prego, and Bristol took 5 months off from school for "mono". Palin after here that the water had broke, flew back to Alaska for the birth. I mean Palin was at a governors convention giving a speech when "her" water broke, then KNOWING "she" was pregnant with a downsyndrome baby, got on a plane flew, after her water had broke, all the way to Alaska to give birth at a medical center that did NOT even have a OBGYN unit, prego, with a downsyndrome baby, Palin flew several hours, to a center with NO OBGYN unit...and her daughter was out of school for 5 months...mono? back to school soon after the birth and Palin back to work immediately...hmm, I'm sure Palin's story is true, everything else she said has been...right?
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Posted By: Cate75 @ 09/09/2008 11:35:48 PM
I am so sick of these people not being outraged by all the lives that are taken by gun violence and AIDS, yet these same people are so upset about the issue of abortion. IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT I DO WITH MY BODY! If you want to do something productive, then educate young women on how to NOT get pregnant and prevent diseases. We have a much bigger problem with AIDS and gun violence in this country than abortion. MAYBE YOU SHOULD FOCUS YOUR ATTENTION ON SOME ISSUES WORTH FOCUSING ON!
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Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 09/10/2008 1:01:11 AM
maybe you are not sick and angry enough about the decades old discrimination campaign the DNC and liberal press wages against firearms owners.
Most Americans dislike discrimination campaigns and identify with the targewts of them!
When you hear "reasonable" gun control it is a "reasonable" defined by the discrimination campaign it's self... not facts. Not truth. not REASON!
Repetition is another key give away of a discrimination campaign!
The DNC runs this discrimination campaign with the news media, with other discrimination campaigns attacking other Americans in an Americans Suck First campaign. THAT should make you want to puke!
Perhaps the one thing that most upset liberals about Palin was she gave a major speech before Americans and didn't slam gun owners, Christians, Achievers, Military professionals or police. Yet she had plenty to talk about!
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Posted By: mrzoid @ 09/10/2008 12:41:19 AM
The problem isn't in your reasoning, which i agree with; the problem lies in interpretation of what a life is. An average of 81 people die by firearm each day in the US, and just over 14,000 people died of AIDS. While, on average, over 1.3 million abortions are performed in the US each year; so im sure how you can see where the furvor from the pro-life advocates, seeing as they view each abortion as murder. To them, each year is tantimount to a genocide. It's foolishly shortsighted and extreme in my opinion, but its what they believe none-the-less.
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Posted By: Cate75 @ 09/09/2008 11:24:00 PM
FOR ALL OF YOU WHO SPEAK OF ABORTION AS IF IT IS MURDER:
WE HAVE A THING IN OUR COUNTRY CALLED SEPERATION OF CHURCH AND STATE, AND IT IS BECAUSE OF YOU! IT IS NONE OF YOUR BUSINESS WHAT WE DO WITH OUR BODIES!!!!!-
Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 09/10/2008 12:46:01 AM
No..there is no such thing in the USA. the constitution says the government shall not establish a religion.Or abolish free practice.
The place which had such a seperation was the Soviet Union, which philisophicly justified the abolishment of the free practice.
Just because Liberals and left-wingers repeat something over and over don't make it true! Abortion sure is murder!
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Posted By: All's Fair @ 09/10/2008 5:27:40 PM
You ARE free to practice your religion by not having an abortion. At the same time, you have no right to tell tthe rest of us what to believe or to require us to follow your beliefs. This is a pluralistic society and even we devout Christian disagree on this issue.
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Posted By: Jose52 @ 09/10/2008 1:30:44 PM
Great comment. Jefferson and Madison both stated that goverment will not limit the religion in any way. And the libs falsely proclaim this point ; not understanding the basis of the founding fathers's reasoning. Abortion is still the killing of an innocent life and the dems falsely cater to the Fems so as to gain electoral power. May they go into the gates of Hell! Abortion Joe Biden too!
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Posted By: beefy @ 09/09/2008 10:16:51 PM
Too bad the Confederacy did not have propagandists like Dahlia Lithwick to proclaim that ???Lincoln wants to take away slave owners??? right to choose.???
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Posted By: beefy @ 09/09/2008 10:15:55 PM
Too bad the Confederacy did not have propagandists like Dahlia Lithwick to proclaim that ???Lincoln wants to take away slave owners??? right to choose.???
Existence is not a f---ing crime!
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