A Grim Anniversary

Seven years later, Al Qaeda still lives—and its new host is a nuclear-weapons state.

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  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 09/22/2008 6:19:07 PM

    John McCain is an avid reader and is known for rereading many works of his favorite authors. The favorite author of John McCain is Herman Wouk who has written The Winds of War, War and Remembrance, and the Caine Mutiny. Wouk served as an executive Naval officer aboard a minesweeper during War War II and used that experience in forming the character of Captain Queeg in the Caine Mutiny. Victor Henry the main character in Winds of War and War and Remembrance was a naval officer who became a confidant both to FDR and Harry Truman. FDR and Harry Truman went outside the normal channels of military command and relied on Victor Henry for straight talk advice on how to approach Russia and Germany and Japan prior and during World War II. John McCain sees himself as the Victor Henry character who was a realist in foreign policy and understood the nuances of war and foreign policy better than anyone. John McCain is a realist and more knowledgeable about foreign policy than either Joe Biden or Barack Obama due to his experiences and also just growing up as the son and grandson of Navy admirals. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no military background between them and do not even have the background to know who to connect with to get straight back channel information. Barack Obama and Joe Biden lack the knowledge to even ask the right questions even if they could line up a current day Pug Henry commander to give them the straight scoop. It is totally inaccurate to argue that John McCain is somehow dogmatic in his approach and understanding of foreign affairs. Herman Wouk wove history into his novels. There is saying that those who do not know history are doomed to repeat history. John McCain knows history and has lived it and will use that knowledge to guide the United States through the tough challenges that we face in the war on terror, radical Islam and dealing with a resurgent Russia.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 09/22/2008 6:18:29 PM

    Democratic leadership under Barack Obama wanted to cut and run in Iraq today and just before our successful surge, just as Democratic leadership wanted to cut and run in Vietnam before our 650 POWs came home in 1973. John McCain realizes he would not be here today if the Democratic leadership had their way back in 1972. Because he spent early school years in Indonesia, Barack Obama may not be the Democratic Presidential candidate today but for our efforts in Vietnam in 1972. Richard Nixon a former Navy officer who served before John McCain years in the Navy understood that North Vietnam never returned any of the captured French POWs after their defeat at Dien Bien Phu in 1954. Only the week long bombings of Hanoi including Christmas day in 1972 with our B52 bombers finally convinced North Vietnam that we wanted our 650 POWs back now. The bombings also convinced the South Vietnamese that we would support them in the future under the Paris Peace Talks agreement. Although the United States lost in Vietnam are efforts there gave other countries time to develop their fragile democracies. Indonesia today is a democratic country today that is friendly to the United States and has a population of nearly two hundred million people, the fourth largest in the world. Barack Obama spent his early childhood in Indonesia attending school with his mother and step-father during the time of the Vietnam War. It has been reported that the former President of Indonesia stated that our efforts in Vietnam even though we lost, allowed Indonesia to fight off communism and develop as a democratic country. Our efforts in Vietnam bought Indonesia time. Barack Obama could have been caught up in a communist insurrection in Indonesia during his early childhood if the United States had cut and run and had not tried to slow or stop a rapid North Vietnam takeover of South Vietnam. All of Southeast Asia including Indonesia could have rapidly gone Communist if the United States did not at least make a stand to resist the rapid expansion of communism and stand by our ally South Vietnam. Ironicallly both John McCain and Barack Obama would not be the men they are today and John McCain would not be here if we had followed Democratic leadership to cut and run in Vietnam before our POWs were returned.

  • Posted By: observer101 @ 09/11/2008 2:52:50 PM

    I rarely hear anything bad from soldiers about the experiences in Iraq...Except from the ones that are dems/libs and didnt want to go in the first place...For you pinkpanther to say that al-Qeada is stronger now is just an ignorant comment....Are you one of those silly conspiracy theorists that say we are not in danger from these ppl?...9/11 didnt really happen as planned and admitted to by al-Qeada?..Please make yourself sound more foolish as those ppl that say this was all rigged for oil....You have the Clinton Admin to thank for not taking terrorism seriously from the 1st WTC attack to the OKC bombing to 9/11...

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/11/2008 4:26:08 PM

      I went to a protest film screening with an interview from a young soldier who'd lost his hand to a roadside bomb. He was probably 21.

      Why don't you talk to some wounded soldiers about the experiences in Iraq? Or the record numbers of American soldier suicides since the war started? How about the record backlog of claims to the Veterans' Administration, some of which aren't getting paid?

      It seems to me maybe you're the one who's ignorant.

      • Posted By: observer101 @ 09/13/2008 5:43:50 PM

        Um not quite...If I lost a body part Id be disgruntled and bias toward the war to..Many ppl from many wars commit suicide even officers in ordinary police forces also paramedics, firefighters...Does that mean ALL of society is lost because of these few that couldnt handle it mentally...No!..So judging a war or the majorities attitude toward this conflict from just your one soldiers missing hand is silly and I hardly think he represents the majority that proudly serve and continue to re-enlist...Just because the Vet Admins have backlogs that date back to God knows when(before this war even started)doesnt indicate how most soldiers feel about this current conflict...You ARE ignorant seeing how you even bothered going to a protest film in the first place, and base your theories on a disgruntled serviceman.

        • Posted By: tc125231 @ 09/14/2008 12:14:54 AM

          So what is your source of information, oh insulting one? Dispassionate polls? Interviews with 1000s of servicemen?

          Or that you "rarely hear" anything that conflicts with your obvious preconceptions?

          I agree with Andrew Bracevich. In geopolitical and military terms, the first requirement of true conservatism is to live in the actual real world.

          Like the Administration, few of its defenders meet this simple requirement.

  • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 09/13/2008 12:02:27 PM

    Mr. Hirsh we will NEVER change the minds of a populace that hates the US no matter wat we do. They gladly took our $10 BILLION, and did nothing to curb the growth of T-ban/AQ training camps in the tribal belt. In May there were 30-40 camps. Now, in Sept. there are over 160. The P-stani's did not drop 1 bomb on any of these camps, coz they share the same bed. This is a "nation" of islamic radicals who hate the US, and India even more. The time to act unilaterally has come, its been overdue. Put together the strike packages and bomb those camps to dust. Spec. Ops and 10th Mountain are not the only US personnel chomping at the bit to get in the choppers and take that trip, the 101st is there and thats our game. If the P-stani's get i9n the way, in the air or on the ground, they will get LIT UP. If you want something done, sometimes you gotta do it YOURSELF.

    • Posted By: observer101 @ 09/13/2008 5:51:34 PM

      I have a feeling that after we switch gears in Iraq, we will be "lighting" up the T-bans world...I agree we need to stop p*ssyfooting around w/ these ppl that would assume we dropped off the face of the earth...Find out where these camps are and bomb them mercilessly...Its a war on terror, he that arent with us are against us...Pakistan IS taking our money for nothing...Probably to build their own stock pile to use against us or India..We should stop financing these ppl and see what "friends" they really are..

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 09/12/2008 11:10:59 AM

    Governor Sarah Palin supports John McCain in the fight against terrorism and his support for our efforts and the surge in Iraq.

    Some Democratic leaders including Obama but not Joe Leiberman have asked what have we accomplished in Iraq? John McCain was right in his support for the Iraq surge. Iraq today is in relative peace and is no longer hostile to the United States. Iraq is currently producing two and a half million barrels of oil a day and is capable of producing four and half million barrels a day. At $120 one hundred and twenty dollars a barrel Iraq has current oil revenues of $300 three hundred million dollars a day. Those revenues can grow to $500 million dollars a day with increased production. Thanks to the John McCain support of the war and the surge $300 million dollars a day are not being funneled to enemies of the United States to support terrorism around the world and to buy missiles and nuclear weapons that can be used against the United States. With an income stream of three hundred million dollars a day, Iraq was capable of purchasing hundreds of nuclear weapons. Our current progress with North Korea on nuclear issues is a result of cutting off the money flow and purchase of missiles and nuclear technology from North Korea to Iraq.

    • Posted By: Trooper101st @ 09/13/2008 12:18:30 PM

      Really? Wat has Iraq done with that $80 Billion in US banks? NOTHING. Wat has happened since 2003 that make going to war in Iraq so great? This war was not only unnecessary, it was mismanaged from the start. Mc Cain voted with Bush 90% of the time. Wat makes ANYONE think there will be some kind of change? Its the same old pig, with LIPSTICK on, and that is NOT change. Why does Mc Cain keep voting AGAINST more money for the VA and Soldiers, Marines, Sailors and Airmen? Thanks to J. Mc Cain and his support of Bush's oil war, we have let the REAL enemy, AQ/T-ban re-arm, re-group and re-fit in P-stan. Yeah, thanks alot Johnny Boy. You have the blood of 9 Para's from the 173rd on ur hands, coz you ignored A-stan. You sir, truly have ur head up ur RECTUM.

  • Posted By: payAttention2 @ 09/12/2008 10:38:19 PM

    This article is an insult to journalism. All the statements are superficial and lack even primary research. With this piece, Michael Hirsh must be trying to meet a deadline to cash his paycheck, but too lazy and arrogant to do any background study.

    The primary fact about this nuclear deal is that it is only for civilian power generation and nothing to do with nuclear arms race. This deal helps make a significant reduction to the global energy demand and thus, reduce funding for islamic terrorism originating from the middle-east.

    In this article, Michael Hirsh???s primary logic is that - if you want financial-aid and attention of a super-power, send suicide bombers and kill their civilians; the more civilians you kill, the more severe is the problem, and the more funding you will get.

    It is this kind of irresponsible journalism that has brought the world to this dangerous state. Over the last few generations, while every nation in the world was focused on creating productive world citizens in the form of engineers and doctors, one nation was building universities to attract and produce suicide bombers.

    When will you get it into your lame brain that you will never win the hearts and minds of a country with extremist religious suicidal views? The more you try to appease them, the worse their demands grow. The more money you provide them in the name of ???winning hearts and minds??? the longer these suicide-bomber universities will flourish and more deadly their blasts. It is unfortunate that one terrorist nation has held USA, and the remaining world, hostage with mass manslaughter. Another fact is that, for decades, this failed nation-state was provided military and economic aid by USA, and their intelligence agency trained by CIA. Now, this is how it is being repaid. The only way forward is to starve these abominable human-terrorists. The more you give them to eat, the longer they will keep harming us.

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/11/2008 3:00:28 PM

    Hirsh should not have brought in a WWII comparison,for while he is correct about the TIME,he ignores the casualties American and its allies faced in getting the war to its conclusion. Here are a few salient points:

    We lost more men in one day on the Rapido River in Italy than we have in Iraq to-present

    We lost more men in one day on Tarawa in than we have in Iraq to-present

    We lost 100,000 men in a yearlong campaign in Italy from 1943-1944 including over one thousand fraticidial deaths.

    Hirsh also ignores the patent fact that the introduction of American soldiers and arial armed drones into the Warizstan region is a means of ''bringing the war''to al Qaeda in Pakistan. He is confused. On one side,he wants us to pull closer to Pakistans leader in order to block the machinations of the generals,and on the other,advocates the invasion of this nation. Why Hirsh never mentioned the capture of the actual planner of 9/11,Sheikh Khalid Muhammed,is a mystery. How he plans to placate the new president of Pakistan while tandemly invading his nation is another. It must be all one way,or all the other. Then too,Hirsh lastly ignores the fact that there would have been no Soviet Union had it not been for a ''small'',ragtag group of Bolsheviks,and ,that there would be no ''peaceful democratic allies in Germany and Japan''had not hundreds of thousands of US soldiers been rotated in and out of US German and Japanese bases for decades after the war was over.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/11/2008 4:16:52 PM

      A better intelligence network in Afghanistan and Pakistan would be far more valuable than the increasing numbers of unarmed AERIAL drones we keep sending in, some of whom are blowing up civilians.

      The more we alienate the local population with unnecessary casualties, the more likely they are to help extremists hide or refuse to provide us any information. An aerial drone can pass right over a well-concealed enemy outpost and never notice a thing. In Afghanistan the only entrance to an extremist stronghold may be the mouth of a cave under a tiny rock overhang, surrounded by miles and miles of mountain territory that all look exactly the same.

      You don't think in terms of modern or asymmetrical warfare, Mr. Holmes. Your thinking is stuck in the kinds of mass battles you mention from WWII. These kinds of battles are not the shape of modern asymmetrical warfare as experienced in Iraq, Vietnam, Mogadishu, Bosnia, or other hotspots.

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/11/2008 7:03:41 PM

        Ah,but the trouble here is that such remedies are embraced by both presidential candidates. The ''mass battle''concept is ludicrous. This is not the Napoleonic War. Yet it must invite a military solution. Cops won't cut it. The CIA has proven itself time and again to be nearly bufoonish in its execution. This solution escapes Hirsh. He complained when we were Pak Musharref centric in the late 1990s-2007 and he complains now that we are veering towards India. He complains that Iraq ''is not the war'',but offers no solution into getting into what he deems to be the ''real one''. Cutting deals with the shaky Paks is labour lost. Their ISI and military[and most government] ranks are infested with al-Qaeda sympathizers. Their own military forays into the North were useless and counterproductive,even using a native military. What to do?

        If a large scale or ''mass battle''plan is out of the question [which it is not,in the minds of Obama and McCain both],then the use of these drones becomes the very heart of the new asymmetrical warfare we have heretofore discussed. If ten survelliance comsats fly above the Warizstan region,double them. Blanket the entire region in a box-by-box grid pattern and see what shakes loose. This is what nearly got Alman al-Zawahiri,the al Qaeda No.2 back in July,again,using drones.[the ability of the al-Qaedians to monitor our intentions or plans can be neutralized using the same solution of WWII. Codetalkers. Preferably,Navahos].
        If ''mass battles''are out of the question,so is your anasceptic war. It is a rude fact of history for every single one of its ages without exception that innocents will die.''Alienation''we already have. Have had,long before Bush ever stepped onto a world stage. Obviously,al Qaeda cared not a whit for the sheer numbers of innocents they have killed. Thus we either repay them in their own coin,or allow them to flourish and remain,moving to Islamabad to seize control of a most dangerous weapon,once they move beyond their ''ragtag''stage.[which oddly,we find such adjectives being applied in their contemporary times to Maos communists.Lenins Bolsheviks,and Castros revolutionaries.Yet their fanaticism eclipses all of these].

        • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/11/2008 10:31:35 PM

          I don't disparage the aerial drones, but they are not replacements for eyes and ears on the ground.

          I made no claims about "antiseptic" (to fix your spelling) war. I'm well aware that as history has gone on the number of civilians targeted in wars *increases*, not decreases. You seem to be thinking that I believe warfare is tidy now; this is untrue. If anything, it's messier than before - it's just not usually fought between tank divisions as much as insurgency and sneak attacks. Involvement in traditional military operations such as Desert Storm happens less often than involvement in resistance situations such as Mogadishu or Baghdad.

          I'm not saying we don't need a traditional army. I'm saying we need a greater proportion of it dedicated to fighting against guerrillas, insurgents, the kind of people who are costing us a tremendous amount of money with homemade bombs and garage door openers that cost next to nothing. We need more troops and training specifically for urban combat situations and to focus more of our training for wilderness operations on searches and reconnaissance of small bases and elusive targets.

          The aerial drones are a valuable part of our current military technology. But I do think there is a tendency to think they can replace translators, intercepting enemy transitions in Arabic, and making more connections with the local populace. They can't. I really would go so far as to say that if the budget next month that's currently allocated to drones would be allocated to giving military personnel greater training in Arabic instead, we'd more than likely see a tremendous increase in effectiveness.

          • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/12/2008 2:47:36 PM

            Jetlag. Yet the point remains that all of the options you offer are military in nature. Your solution neccecitates the introduction of ground combat forces into Pakistan. Small,individual groups can be[as they have in all of Americas wars],cut off and wiped out,ensuring a huge propaganda victory to the jihadist,a victory bin Laden banked upon [his ''paper tiger''remarks in 1995], when US Rangers were dragged through the streets of Mogadishu by Adids henchmen. Make no mistake. Your ''traditional''services are already being keenly trained in urban and mountain warfare. The US Marines base in the California Sierra Mountains. The US Armys 10th Mountain Division out of Ft.Drum in New York. The US Navy SEALS training in both desert and high mountain warfare in Colorado and the Mojave. Indeed,the entirety of ground force operation in Iraq and Afghanistan,for the first time since the Phillipine Insurrection in the 1890s,is completely devoted to counter-insurgent warfare,rather than ''set piece''battle. We already have the expertise. It devolves to the will to enter into Pakistan and use these assets in tandem with the surveillance technologies that will be required in order to track and find bin Laden. The effectiveness of any such operation will be totally dependant upon two things. A leak-proof responsible agency [such as NSA ,Pentagon or CIA],and a press that does not want to hand the ball off to the jihadists ,who can read American newspapers too.[Indeed,our greatest military successes were those ground in utmost secrecy. This operation demands no less].

            • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/12/2008 8:22:30 PM

              I have nothing but respect for our Rangers and SEALs, and the Army's Mountain division. But I will stand by my point; I don't think we're ever going to find bin Laden without greater connections to the local populace than we have or without increasing the number of spies who can successfully blend into Arabic culture.

              Our "Al-Hurra" military propaganda network in the Middle East recently gave airtime to terrorists because no one at the top was fluent in Middle Eastern languages. We need more translators, and more cultural liasons, as badly as we need any bomb.

  • Posted By: peaceandprosperity @ 09/12/2008 1:36:42 PM

    Michael, Your article reeks hatered for the Indians and love for the jihadist/terrorist. What a shame that you do not even have your facts straight. This is exactly what gives the media a bloody nose. You did not even bother to mention that India is surrounded by these jihadist countries just like Israel, who are bent on spreading the radical Islam at all cost. They do not have any respect for decency or world order. Did you know that it was the Pakistani ISI who provided the logistics support and training to the terrorist and still today countinue to provide. The only difference is that now the radicle parties of Pakistan is now in power. America just can NOT afford to let them gain strength. I think the only democratic country that can help America with the same interests is India. Yes, Pakistan knows how to mooch money to the tune of $10s of Billions from America to arm those Muslims to attack America and India. China also support Pakistan with tons of money and Millitary gear, which eventually be used against NATO and India. What you really have to worry now is that the Muslim radicles are now running the country and they have the BOMB and they will be glad to use it against America if we do not take it away. Michael, you have pretty narrow thinking and no strategic thinking and you should be immediately fired from your job for spitting out such hatered towards India instead of a balanced view.

    • Posted By: TheVigil @ 09/12/2008 8:18:27 PM

      It's pretty easy to see that you're the bigoted one instead...perhaps some of the Muslim countries are beginning to dislike America because, I don't know, half our country wants to attack them unilaterally?

  • Posted By: sridhar501 @ 09/12/2008 7:03:17 PM

    what an incredibly simplistic, patronizing article, putting forward the exact same childlike, short term point of view that the Bush administration has kept up over the last eight years. Who would you rather make friends with, Mr Hirsh, a secular country with a 150 million muslims, 800 million Hindus and a 100 million Christians as India, albeit with their occasional tensions but still living together? Or a country with a history of coups, parallel governments lead by the Intelligence wing and whose next military dictatorship will come as sure as night follows day? Or a China - who has no real friends internationally, only economic vassals and rival who fear them? Wouldnt you rather be friends with a country which is nuclear capable, yet with a spotless history of non proliferation? More than can be said of China whose technicians helped build your todays Pakistani arsenal and which the US knew about all along. One makes friends not just because the time is right, but because of shared values of live and let live, secularism, freedom of speech and the rule of common law regardless of color, sex or economic status. Nobody says that the present situation in any country in the world is ideal, but the idealogy of the country is important. It is very necessary that while we all may be in the gutter, we continue to look at the sky and not down into the gutter.

  • Posted By: Sheroo @ 09/12/2008 1:19:44 PM

    This time Michael Hirch is completely wrong and out of line. As I have said before you have to be one of them ( either a Pakistani or an Indian) to understand the double game pakistani leaders play to make a fool of America. Musharaf did for the last 7 years. Musharraf; taliban; and Al qaida are the same thing with the same religious goals. They will never kill each other. Just to get aid US aid ,they will show they have killed taliban here and there.. Who knows all these news of killing militant are lies too. Bush has wasted 7 years thinking Pakistan is a friend. The sooner you wake up better you are. Sheroo, Mryland

  • Posted By: HOMIRUSTOM @ 09/12/2008 12:16:05 PM

    Pakistan sucking money from America will never want Al-Qaida defited. Infact they encourage Terrorist. Its commen sence $ 25 million on Osama Bin Laden head where as Pakistan gets Billions of dollars America. The only way to beat Al-Qaida Amercian Troops should operate in Pakistan which Pakistan will never allow because after killing the Hen which lays Golden eggs on more Gold for Pakistan.

  • Posted By: Doun Lo @ 09/12/2008 11:58:03 AM

    Mr. Hirsh,
    Your artcle, " A Grim Anniversary" is a very inaccurate recolation of events. Pakistan supported Osama Bin Laden and the Taliban long before 9/11. Pakistan has been fighting with India since it's inception, mainly over Kashmir. In India, Muslims and Hindu's have been at war with each other for decades. Osama Bin Laden, the Taliban, and Pakistan have been training Muslim terrorists to fight all over the world long before 9/11. So lets be fair and not put all of this on the shoulders of the Bush administration. Before 9/11, they wanted as little to do with the Middle East as possible. Clinton's efforts to create a peace deal between the Israel and Palistine was sabotaged by Ariel Sharon's knowingly controversial visit to a shrine and Yasser Arrafat's inability to control the terrorists in Palistine and hence inabilty to commit to a peace deal. The Bush administration recognized this and referred the matter to the Arab League and the UN. The US did all it could do; Clinton exhausted every resource. Remember the attacks, by the Taliban on the WTC while Clinton was working feverishly on a peace deal? Remember the US bombing Yugoslavia until Slobodan Milosevic "Butcher of the Balkins" for his genocidal attacks against Muslims?
    The only logical reason reason I can think of for not invading Pakistan after 9/11 is that we worked out a deal with Musharef. One that provided loads of intel and I suspect some sort of supervision over their nuclear arsenal. Now that Musharef is out, I'm very concerned about our control over Pakistans nuclear arsenal and these attacks may be a way of forcing the new government in Pakistan to give us that control back. What the discussion should be about is Bin Laden or Pakistans nukes? Get Bin Laden and Pakistan may go into civil war, possibly putting it's nuclear weapons in the hands of radical extremists. Securing Pakistan's nukes may mean giving up on Bin Laden in order to provide stability for the government. THe scary thing is we may be preparing for both. If the new government isn't giving us access to their nuclear arsenal we may be left with no choice but to go after them and the nukes. I pray that Musharef helped us smuggle the nukes out of Pakistan before he stepped down. Or at least put the Army personel in place to help us do so if needed. If that is the case then Osama Bin Laden is fair game and we should do everything possible to get him. Pakistan has always hated American values, our friendship with India, and our support for Israel. Nothing has changed, nothing is going to change. To think so is naive and unrealistic.

  • Posted By: glam @ 09/11/2008 7:06:22 PM

    Micheal Hirsh, you are an idiot. And obviously so pro-Obama that it stinks to high-Heaven. There are MORE Muslims in India Mr. Lying Fool, than there are in Pakistan. India is NOT all Hindu FYI. You should watch cable TV sometime. And the counter-terrosrism CIA expert is CORRECT - Al Qaida is ONLY A HANDFUL OF LUNATICS who don't deserve to be called Muslim please! These Al Qaida lunatics are actually Islamo-phobics like yourself, who are AFRAID to find out the true meaning of Islam, one of the most peaceful and tolerant religions in the world!

    Nuclear technology for India will mean a better economy for India. Yes, you arrogant pompous piece of white trash ass, it will mean calls routed to more centers in Mumbai. that's because your white trash population is so self-serving and exploding at such an ignoramously astounding rate and folks like you take so much for granted that YES, there WILL be more call centers all around the WORLD to cater to over-fed carcasses like yourself. And NO - nuclear technology for India doesn't mean war, it means PEACE in Asia. India wants eace, Indians want peace. Why do you think India let an other arrogant piece of garbage go its own way in 1947? Because Indians want peace, prosperity and plenty for all!

    Micheal Hirch, get out of your bubble Fool!

    • Posted By: sonar7 @ 09/12/2008 11:57:12 AM

      Please refrain from name calling. As an Indian in the US, I have truly come to respect such a great democracy. Though there are shortcomings, like there are everywhere, it is still one of the world's dominant democracies promoting freedom. I take particular offense to your calling him white trash and I wish you would refrain from such racist overtones.

  • Posted By: sonar7 @ 09/12/2008 11:46:27 AM

    While I agree with some of the analysis in this article (which could be written by almost anyone who reads the papers), the author has tried to mix it with his distaste for India.
    He conveniently forgets that Pakistan of today is a creation of the US. It has been propped up by the US since the 70s, supported the Mujahideen through the 80s and Musharraf through the rest of the years.
    By the way, have you ever written referred to "Christians in US" like you refer to "Hindus in India" ? Or does your definition of a secular democracy end with the US ? I agree that India still has a way to go when it comes to treating every one equal, but then, 33% of Americans wouldnt vote for Romney as he is Mormon, and probably a good chunk wont vote for Obama as he is black. That doesnt take away from the fact that the US is the premier vibrant democracy in the world.
    I also wonder about the author's apparent insistence of parity between India and Pakistan. Or maybe he believes in feeding a poodle the same quantity of food as a dog 8 times its size.
    In a desperate attempt to scrape rock bottom, you trivialize the article even further by almost saying that you need to make friends with terrorists and not enrage them by making friends with India, who share similar democratic values with the US.
    All in all, a classless article, showing lack of thought and deep subject knowledge. I am amazed that it wasnt thrown back in his face by the editor. So much for news nowdays.

  • Posted By: HOMIRUSTOM @ 09/12/2008 11:35:20 AM

    Pakistan suckiing money from Americans want Ai-Qaida to remain in its country . Commen sence only $ 25 millon on Osama Bin Laden head where as Pakistan gets Billon of $ from American. Only to win Al-Qaida American troops should operate in Pakistan which Pakistan will never allow. War once won agianst Terroist on more money for Pakistan.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 09/12/2008 11:09:44 AM

    Charley Gibson cites the so-called Bush doctrine using military force when a strike is imminent when in reality it should be called the Franklin Delano Roosevelt FDR doctrine.
    Four days after Japan attacked at Pearl Harbor, Congress passed a declaration of war against Germany on December 11, 1941. Congress had passed a declaration of war against Japan the day after Pearl Harbor attack on December 7, 1941. Germany had not attacked the United States but was allied under the Axis Pact with Japan and posed an immediate threat to the United States. Our war effort and strategy during the early years of World War II was to defeat Nazi Germany and then go after Japan. Germany was considered the stronger threat and therefore it was appropriate to beat Germany before Japan was ultimately forced to surrender. The so-called Bush doctrine is a continuation of FDR successful strategy of winning World War II.

  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 09/12/2008 9:52:04 AM

    And here we are, antagonizing Russia and mired down in Iraq.

  • Posted By: Manav @ 09/12/2008 4:11:29 AM

    Author saying: "enrage them by making friends with the Hindus in India" is a misrepresentation - perhaps author needed to dramatize by including the religious angle. Architect of the deal from India is a Sikh (Manmohan Singh), chief political backing coming from an Italian born Christian lady (Sonia). Understand the statement on rivalry between Pak and India ??? however bringing Hindu and Muslim into the equation is low.

  • Posted By: LMGC @ 09/12/2008 3:53:19 AM

    The Neocons are the one who got us where we are today with the War on "Terror"?.?. Bush Sr. and Jr. are Neocons, as well as Rumsfeld, Chaney, Wolfowitz, William Cristol, Rupert Murdoc, etc. who's plans for world domination



    is is one of

  • Posted By: vasanth_74 @ 09/12/2008 3:53:08 AM

    Hi,
    I find the comparison between India and Iran juvenile. If your point is that a nuclear bomb is a bomb, no matter who possesses it, then a war is a war, no matter who wages it for what reason. So this it would put the US (under Bush) and Iraq (under Saddam) in the same pedestal. India's nuclear ambitions has to be traced back to the muddled geo-political situation of the past and the erstwhile US support to Pakistan, and not necessarily in that order. And one final point that should settle India's case (and the Indo-US civil nuclear agreement) is India's impeccable non-proliferation record and its history of extreme restraint even in the face of unwarranted agression shown by its neighbours.

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