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To Work or Not?

A new study finds that children of privileged families fare worse when the mother works outside the home. But what does the research really tell us?

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  • Posted By: Jwils @ 04/05/2009 4:38:58 PM

    This looks like a hokey study. Nothing was cited on the sample size and actual income level of the families. It seems to say rich kids are fatter and do worse in school when mom works, than when she doesn't, but it doesn't make a difference for poor kids. Hhhmmm maybe a little conservatism behind this, as in, kids in homes where Dad makes enough for mom to stay home do worse if mom works anyways?

  • Posted By: sbeth @ 10/01/2008 2:58:00 PM

    Interesting but not at all surprising that the author of the study and the article would never allow us to take home the lesson that maybe it is a good thing when moms can take some significant time off of work to be with their kids, that maybe it would be good public policy to support those women and men who do care for their own children all day long. This could be done along with flexible work policies and improvements in child care quality--why does it have to be one against the other?

  • Posted By: sapiro @ 09/26/2008 7:11:07 PM

    When is someone going to do a study invesigating the impact on kids when fathers work full-time? When are men going to graduate to parenthood rather than occaisional baby-sitters?

  • Posted By: Clear Thoughts @ 09/18/2008 10:45:44 PM

    Kallesin, as a father I agree with you all the way. Too often in our society people have a judgemental view of stay home moms because they have bought into the idea that if you can not do "everything" then you are lacking. Well no surprise that those are the same folks who can not think critically and are probably the same people who change their thinking with the latest nfew story, without thinking on their own. Keep the faith and always family first!!

  • Posted By: Texsurf @ 09/12/2008 3:21:00 PM

    Heck yea! I will be Mr. Mom and get my golf game in shape. I'm 40, single, never married but looking and want kids. I have a master degree in finance but don't use it. As I matured I grew disenfranchised with the American corporate greed. It would give me time to volunteer which I love and I would find a small business to start for extra income.

    • Posted By: Kallesin @ 09/18/2008 10:10:29 AM

      There should be a reality show for people like you. I'd love to see a group of people (be it men or women) who think that being a stay at home mom/dad will leave you with adequate time left over to improve your golf game. Is it seriously your idea that there are a bunch of stay at home mom who sit around eating bon bons? Have you ever tried to run a household, drop every body off where they need to go, schedule all appointments, clean the house, do the laundry (for more than just you), grocery shop, and cook food. Oh, and I forgot that small detail about providing care and nurturing the emotional and intellectual well being of your little ones. Seriously, isn't there some kind of show about teenagers who think they're ready to be parents and then they go live in a house and take care of other people's kids and just about swear to celibicy by the time it's over? There should be one for people like you just so that all the hard working parents can roll around laughing as you tearfully come to the realization that you have been woefully misled in the judgements you have been making about what it takes to be a successful stay at home mom/dad.

  • Posted By: emccauley @ 09/17/2008 10:43:56 PM

    The big picture of this article is that America needs to improve its policies to assist with work-family stabilization. As of right now family policies do not exist in the United States of America. America has social and socioeconomic policies that are geared towards the individual rather than the family as a whole. Individualism has become apart of our cultural norm, so as Americans we have a built in assumption of individualism. The family is the main function of our society and always will be therefore policy makers certainly need to step up to create a more stable work-family society for the United States.

  • Posted By: emccauley @ 09/17/2008 10:43:09 PM

    The big picture of this article is that America needs to improve its policies to assist with work-family stabilization. As of right now family policies do not exist in the United States of America. America has social and socioeconomic policies that are geared towards the individual rather than the family as a whole. Individualism has become apart of our cultural norm, so as Americans we have a built in assumption of individualism. The family is the main function of our society and always will be therefore policy makers certainly need to step up to create a more stable work-family society for the United States.

  • Posted By: besmith @ 09/17/2008 1:57:45 PM

    I am a well-educated working mom with a girl. Her dream is to be a vet. I will continue to be a role model for her, I will not teach her that she is nothing more than a baby machine, and she can just give up her dreams now. Why would it even matter if our girls suceed? So they can grow up and raise sucessful boys?

  • Posted By: KPinCali @ 09/12/2008 2:04:53 PM

    What about the men? A lot of men are dedicated to their children. Were is the study that says the person staying home with the kids has to be a woman? That is what is offensive here. Men are being pigeon holed into work and women child care provider.

    • Posted By: Carolyn Hardin @ 09/16/2008 1:55:50 PM

      Depends on situation in the home. My daughter-in-law has a high paying job and my son has a somewhat less paying job. She enjoys working outside the home. His job is one he can take off as required for his children, which works out great so far. They both agreed to this and the children are doing well. Yes, it would be nice if mom could stay at home with her children, but sometimes, some moms are not geared to that. Face it, we were taught to get a good education and then go to work, just asmen were. My son has a degree as well, but his priority right now is doing the best for his children. He may not have alot of quality time, whatever that is, but he is there for them everday getting them to school, doctrs, etc. getting homework, bathes and all the housework and yardwork. This has worked out well for them, therefore, no father should ever be berated because he chooses to have a lesser career or job than his wife. He has put his chldren first, in my opinion. I took care of them for years before I was diagnosed with cancer and am thankful my son is willing to sacrifice money over the care of his children.
      C.Hardin

    • Posted By: neeka @ 09/13/2008 12:09:02 AM

      When women give birth they can nurse their little baby right away. Yes, they can pump their breasts but it's a luxury for the infant to spend their first months on earth snuggled up to a warm, loving soft mama. Then the mom can continue that bond with their child and the child will feel safe and cozy in their caring mother's love.

    • Posted By: jblackwell88 @ 09/12/2008 4:51:39 PM

      Because its not politically expedient for Obama to attack McCain over HIS child rearing responsibilities. You aren't seeing this debate in its proper context. The left is floating this idea that Palin shouldn't be VP so she can sit at home with the kids. I thought only fundamentalists had the corner on the whole "keep 'em at home barefoot and pregnant" nonsense, but it looks like the left had it in their bag of tricks as well. Its a great irony that the Democratic party who supposedly champions women can't digest this problem of how to prevent one from being elected.

  • Posted By: ideas @ 09/13/2008 8:48:00 AM

    I work in an elementary school and can spot a student who has a stay-at-home mom. They are polite, they are clean, they have their homework done, they don't cause trouble and don't need to create drama for attention. I've worked as an Aide for ten years and am astonished at how accurate I am at this. I stayed home for ten years with three kids, and we did it on 25,000 a year. The difference is I have a husband who is willing to help out. I know there are a lot of women who have to work- single mothers have it the hardest. However, I know many women who don't need to work, don't want to budget, don't like being around their kids and don't like disciplining them. And I have noticed the students who are wealthier are overweight and do not have healthy lunches. They talk a lot of going out to eat every night. You can have it all- just not all at once. Kids are only small once- when it's gone, you can't get it back.

    • Posted By: dkoneflesh @ 09/16/2008 12:04:04 PM

      I also worked as in Aide in highschools. I agree with your opinion. A stay-at home does make a difference. Many women and several friends of my friends simply don't want to stay at home...they would rather be out in the workforce. ...this is their cholce (for some of them, it's a must). However, I also have friends that are singe mothers and work from home 3 days out of the week. So see I really think that it all boils down to a choice....but this best one is when we make the selfless choice for the children and not for us.....

  • Posted By: katie@stamos.org @ 09/14/2008 8:37:10 AM

    When we have these "mommy wars" discussions, it's very telling that only the stay-at-home advocates discuss the needs and best interests of children. The crowd who defends moms who work who really don't have to (which is what this article is about) talk about the mother's intellectual opportunities, fulfillment, etc. It seems like sacrificing for one's children is anathema to those who think this way.

    Just sayin'. Who do you hear discussing the interests of children? We ignore them at our own peril.

    • Posted By: eileenk @ 09/16/2008 11:44:36 AM

      It's a slipperly slope, but let me say this, your baby is only your baby until they go to school...and before you know it you will be dropping them off at college....and still have your whole life left.....hopefully you can find the balance to not lose yourself....tough to do, I know, but I also know you get yourself and your time back...but not your babies.

  • Posted By: dkoneflesh @ 09/16/2008 11:43:52 AM

    Wow...how disillusioned we are. We don't need to go back to the fifties? I am writing from a so-called "low -status" mother point of view. I was once told a story about a mother who was in the working-force, a so-called "high status" mother who did well in her career. Well on her death bed she was asked that if she had to live her life all over again what would she do differently. She stated that she surely wouldn't want to attend another board meeting, but instead to have spent more time with her children. This is something that you can never go back and obtain again, children grow up and go on with their own lives. It really doesn't matter whether the child/mother were low-status or high-status, what really matters is did she supply what really mattered for this child. I don't care what someones' studies indicated, children rich or poor need their mothers. When we hit that grave and stand before the King of kings and Lord of lords, there will be no high status children or low-status children. We will either be children of the Most High God or not....

  • Posted By: trazer @ 09/15/2008 8:26:09 PM

    Speaker of the House Pelosi has 5 kids and has done a terrible job as speaker of the house if one were to believe the 11 per cent approval rating for the job she has done. Obama supports her in spite of her poor record and her going on vacation for 5 weeks and not addressing key issues for America. Most Americans do not get 5 weeks off in the midst of a crisis. Obama supports such weakness in government.

    • Posted By: eileenk @ 09/16/2008 11:42:35 AM

      Hoping to avoid election BS, but here it is...the bottom line, if you, the person who loves your children the most and truly wants the best for them, can be home that is ultimately what is best for your child.....emotionally and educationally. Unfortunately, because it costs money to live, many of us need to work. As far as Obama is concerned, since you bought it up.....another 4 years of the GOP? God help us if McSame wins....on so many levels.....and as for 5 weeks off...check Palin's record, check the "W"'s .....they take way more time off than that!

    • Posted By: eileenk @ 09/16/2008 11:34:06 AM

      I gotta tell ya, I was trying really hard to avoid political debates today...and as a working mom this really is up my alley......I was the sole bread winner for me and 3 children for many years...my oldest is doing great...the middle two have really had scholastic struggles....I think if you have the ability to stay home at least part time it really benefits the kids....emotionally maybe more so.

      Right now I am married and work part time, since we really can use the Xtra income...(and since you brought up politics, I earn more but can afford so much less, thank you GOP for 8 years of systematically dismantling the middle class and economy...but that's just my perspective) which is really the best of both worlds.

  • Posted By: dkoneflesh @ 09/16/2008 11:40:33 AM

    Wow...how disillusioned we are. We don't need to go back to the fifties? I am writing from a so-called "low -status" mother point of view. I was once told a story about a mother who was in the working-force, a so-called "high status" mother who did well in her career. Well on her death bed she was asked that if she had to live her life all over again what would she do differently. She stated that she surely wouldn't want to attend another board meeting, but instead to have spent more time with her children. This is something that you can never go back and obtain again, children grow up and go on with their own lives. It really doesn't matter whether the child/mother were low-status or high-status, what really matters is did she supply what really mattered for this child. I don't care what someones' studies indicated, children rich or poor need their mothers. When we hit that grave and stand before the King of kings and Lord of lords, there will be no high status children or low-status children. We will either be children of the Most High God or not....

  • Posted By: h007es2 @ 09/13/2008 8:34:53 PM

    Another liberal media article. Could have been published months ago. It's a timed aim at trying to undermine a lady as Vice-President, now that Hillary is out and Sarah Palin is in. Do the liberals really believe that they dictate to the rest of America what we are to believe and when. Of course, his article is incomplete in its discussion of all the facts, but Newsweek only wanted the one "fact" published to undermine a woman running for a leading office, since she's not a liberal of course.

    • Posted By: sheliamccomb @ 09/15/2008 4:04:23 PM

      Not sure I see the connection - There are many other polically active women - both Republican and Democrat - who successfully work fulltime while raising kids. This story isn't about Sarah Palin or Hillary Clinton. It is about you and me and your average American mother. Sarah and Hillary can afford to hire someone to help out with cooking, meal, activities, etc. What do you think about this story in your experience?

      • Posted By: eileenk @ 09/16/2008 11:37:54 AM

        Again a working mom really trying to avoid politics....this has nothing to do with Sarah Palin so be quiet about your conservative BS......This affects millions of working moms and kids....and I am interested in what the study found....who cares how it affects the election? Oh, and because of the lousey economy many of us have to work....for we earn more, but can afford less! Thank you 8 years of downward economic spiral!

  • Posted By: trazer @ 09/15/2008 8:29:35 PM

    I would be interested in knowing what the same research group thinks of working dads who are single either because of divorce or early death of a loving wife. What impact does this have on a family? Given the changing roles of fathers in America, this is something the study should have done. Joe Biden is one such person and no one made him feel bad to support his family. Why does the media hate women?

  • Posted By: sheliamccomb @ 09/15/2008 3:57:27 PM

    Interesting article! Another research study designed to make moms feel guilty. Is there a similiar article for dads?

    I was a stay at home mom for one year. It was a huge burden for my husband - he worried about layoffs, benefits and job security. He put in more hours that year. I enjoyed connecting to my daughter during that year. She did benefit from having me there. We worked hard at making sure she saw her dad as her nurturer caregiver, too.

    Right now I work part-time. My job pays reasonably well and I schedule my work day around my daughter's school schedule. This opportunity is extremely rare. I thank my employers on a regular basis. I work 20 plus hours per week AND I am the chief nutricianist, homework helper, librarian, cook, cleaner, laundress, car maintainer, house repairer, financial planner, shopper, exercise planner, play date scheduler, enforcer of house rules, etc. My husband and I feel extremely lucky! Every teacher has said to us they wish they had a classroom full of kids like my daughter because she is smart, well-behaved, gets along with other kids, stays on task, and is respectful. Not sure what she'll be like at 11 or 12. I think every family needs to be intentional about what their values are and how they will live them.

    A substantial research area needs to be on the impact of parental work on the entire family system. So many factors implact kids and parents such as flexible work schedules, employers expectations of a 40 hour work week, dinners together (there is research on this factor), types of family activities and outings, availability of good nutrician in school meals and in local retail establishments, local public transportation, health care options, etc.

    I also don't see this research as tied to the national political debate. Sarah Palin's life seems exhausting to me. I couldn't do it. I would worry about a pregnant teen age daughter, a precious baby with a disability and 2 others who shouldn't be left behind. But Sarah and her family are willing to become involved on a national level. I am assuming her husband will step up to the plate more. They seem like they have a good family and they will continue to do so no matter what the future brings for them.

  • Posted By: sheliamccomb @ 09/15/2008 3:38:13 PM

    Interesting study! I am a working mom with a 8 year old daughter. I have been lucky enough to find a part-time job that both pays reasonably well and is flexible around my daughter's school schedule. I do 90% of house maintenace, cleaning, car upkeep, cooking, laundry, shopping, budgeting, planning, etc.
    I am one of the lucky ones! My experience with friends and coworkers is that my employer is quite rare. My husband and I schedule our work lives around our daughter as much as we are able. What I've noticed about the stay at home moms is that they work - unpaid - quite a bit at the school or in their community as their children get older. They can be busier than those of us who work for pay either full or part time. No one is home full-time with kids. I was home for one year and found it very good for my daughter. However, it was not great for me or for my husband. He felt the pressure of layoffs and being the only provider of health care and other benefits. He worked longer hours and brought home more work. While I loved being at home and being around the neighborhood that year, I felt that I didn't have much to offer anyone except the ability to clean, to hug, to guide, and to juggle everyone else's needs. I almost lost my ability to think critically about and to talk with adults about anything other than kids. I would love to see another study of of the impact of the entire family with one part-time working parent (focused on childcare and the mundane) and one parent working full-time for income and for the benefits and where the other one focuses on the mundane family, house, cars, etc.

  • Posted By: specialneedsmom @ 09/14/2008 1:23:04 PM

    I have worked in early childhood education for 30 years, and I always advise parents to spend as much time at home with their children as possible. This isn't about moms only; this is about parents. No daycare or school can give your child as much as a parent can. And I have seen wonderful families cut back on vacations, new cars, bigger houses, in order to spend as much time together as a family as possible. That is the important issue. I have sen parents opt to both working part-time to get by. There are options. Stay with your kids as much as you can. They groww too soon.

  • Posted By: Newport @ 09/14/2008 11:59:12 AM

    Your children have to be your first priority. They did not ask to be born. It's terrible what I saw in the National Enquirer about Palins son and daughter. Everything in life is a trade off. Your children or your career. There are only 24 hours in a day. You can't have it all at the same time. Palin is proof of that.

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