Drawing Even

Gooood afternoon Vietnam!!!!! How the fight goin' here? Moderate Repubs and Independents (aka realist) still in the lead?

LOL, Zombiehero and HolyRoller... Sorry to burst you a!!....
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John McCain railed against Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac on the campaign trail today,
saying that the CEOs that led the lenders to ruin
"deserve nothing"
and should have to pay back their severance packages. In an
Wall Street Journal op-ed
co-bylined by his vice presidential pick, Sarah Palin, McCain suggested bold reforms
for Fannie and Freddie that would "terminate future lobbying, which was one of the
primary contributors to this great debacle."
If that's the case, McCain should look first to his campaign staffers as the cause
of that debacle. One of them was Fannie Mae's head of lobbying, and spread tens of
millions of dollars around Washington in the form of lobbying contracts. A number
of McCain staffers were on the receiving end of those contracts, collecting hundreds
of thousands of dollars each from the lenders to rep their interests. And McCain's
campaign manager served as president of a lobbying association that fought to protect
Freddie Mac and Fannie Mae from the sort of regulation that McCain is now proposing. http://www.motherjones.com/mojoblog/archives/2008/09/9663_mccain_fannie_freddie.html
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And someone from the companies who was merely employed but not lobbying is worse than lobbyists working for those companies? McCain's belly is so full of lobbyists, despite his bluff opposition to lobbying and claims of lobbying reform.

While Barack Obama is faking outrage over all the bankruptcies and bailouts, he doesn't mention that a number of his top ten contributors are from Wall Street, including Goldman Sacs, Lehman and the JP Morgan Chase. He also fails to mention that one of the first subprime lenders to stick it to borrowers and have her bank seized is a woman named Penny Pritzker, who just happens to be Barack Obama???s campaign Finance Chair (as confirmed on April 3, 2008) and a potential Secretary of the Treasury in an Obama administration.

NOBAMA!!!

Zombiehero says you should read the bill yourself, apparently calls www.factcheck.org "Kos". Ah, the zoombie wants us to cherry-pick so that only what conservative want voters to know is heard, or they want us to believe their crap, so they post selectively, cherry-pickers. Distortions. Taking stuff out of context to suit one's attempts to get the message to voters.
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It's true that the phrase "comprehensive sex education" appeared in the bill, but
little else in McCain's claim is accurate. The ad refers to a
bill
Obama supported in the Illinois state Senate to update the sex education curriculum
and make it "medically accurate." It would have lowered the age at which students
would begin what the bill termed "comprehensive sex education" to include kindergarten.
But it mandated the instruction be "age-appropriate" for kindergarteners when addressing
topics such as sexually transmitted diseases. The bill also would have granted parents
the opportunity to remove their children from the class without question:
SB 99
:
However, no pupil shall be required to take or participate in any family life class
or course on HIV
AIDS
or family life instruction if his parent or guardian submits written objection thereto,
and refusal to take or participate in such course or program shall not be reason
for suspension or expulsion of such pupil.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

"Let's be clear, Governor Palin has done nothing wrong and is an open book
in this process. Mr. Monegan even stated himself that no one ever told him to fire
anyone, period," Comella said later in a statement.
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So, Zombiehero, you can only quote -- cherry pick --- as reliable source when you know Maria Comella is the spokeswoman for Palin, someone paid to say anything to defend the boss? QUOTE FACTS, NOT ONE-SIDED, UNVERIFID "PALIN FACTS"-- MADE-UP FACTS, THAT IS.
Go back to http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/09/03/AR2008090303210_pf.html and read -- or did you fail in reading class?

Read the Bill...don't just parrot what you get of the Kos.
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You call factcheck.org Kos? And, to just read the bill is like saying "just read it and take everything out of context... Cherry-pick so that the ordinary, dumb voter will beleive it".

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It's true that the phrase "comprehensive sex education" appeared in the bill, but
little else in McCain's claim is accurate. The ad refers to a
bill
Obama supported in the Illinois state Senate to update the sex education curriculum
and make it "medically accurate." It would have lowered the age at which students
would begin what the bill termed "comprehensive sex education" to include kindergarten.
But it mandated the instruction be "age-appropriate" for kindergarteners when addressing
topics such as sexually transmitted diseases. The bill also would have granted parents
the opportunity to remove their children from the class without question:
SB 99
:
However, no pupil shall be required to take or participate in any family life class
or course on HIV
AIDS
or family life instruction if his parent or guardian submits written objection thereto,
and refusal to take or participate in such course or program shall not be reason
for suspension or expulsion of such pupil.
http://www.factcheck.org/elections-2008/off_base_on_sex_ed.html

So it's ok for Obama to send Kids to their DEATHS, just not okay for McCain....got
you...forgot about your double standard...I'll try to remember next time.
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1. Bush invaded Afghanistan withUN backing as well as NATO's backing to punish those responsible for 9/11.
2. Bush invaded Iraq on the basis of faulty, baseless, unverifable allegations agaisnt Saddam for harboring WMD (it is now apparent that he only wants regime change to suit his ideologies, or he is chasing oil as a former oilman).
3. Obama said that he supprots more troops in Afghanistian to FULFILL OUR MISSION THAT WE HAVE GOT BACKING FROM THE WORLD COMMUNITY, TO DEFEND AMERICA AGAISNT FUTURE ATTACKS, AND TO CAPTURE AND BRING TO JUSTICE ALL RESPONSIBLE FOR 9/11. He does not support more troops to Iraq, the war without a cause; he supports more troops in Afghanistian, a war with a clear mission that Bush and his neo-cons decided not to give top priority and instead pursue oil in Iraq.
So, to answer your question... This is not about double standard, but about the purpose and the mission of the wars in question. Obama supports Aghanistian "surge", not letting Bush and McCain abandon our obligations to punish those responsible for 9/11 and to protect America; McCain supports troops staying in Iraq, a conflcit worthless fighting except for neo-conservatives.

OH got ya so it's ok for Obama to do it just not McCain....sorry forgot
your double standard my bad.
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Not a double standard, that is the way politics is. If McCain doesn't raise money from celebrities, who would have expected Obama to raise money from them? The point is, this is politics at play, but Obama isn't saying it is okay, he just cannot let hypocrites like McCain do it to win.

Well it's been fun for the day...Neo, Sea, Jose, Share, etc....keep up the good work.