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  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 12:44:38 PM

    fa Zombiehero @ 09/16/2008 9:27:12 AM
    Comment: Today comes word that, with the exception of Chris Dodd, Barack Obama received
    the most money of any member of Congress in campaign contributions from Fannie Mae
    and Freddy Mac, a total of $126,000 plus change.
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    Again Zombiehero, have you been asleep and missed out on the realities in America? You almost always throw in one-sided, biased neo-con rants.
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    Mr. Obama, his Democratic rival from Illinois, is second among members of Congress
    in donations from the firms??? employees and political action committees. http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.html
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    Now note tht Obama was getting money from EMPLOYEES, not the companies themselves, whereas McCain was receiving money from lobbyists mostly in addition to some employees. See the difference between company employees and lobbyists?

    • Posted By: Zombiehero @ 09/16/2008 2:29:18 PM

      That's because it's illegal to get money from the companies themselves stooge. You know that. That's why the employees give for the company...if you don't like the data....then complain to opensecrets....
      I still doesn't change the fact that Obama profited more from Fannie and Freddie than McCain....In fact the Dems made a killing from Fannie and Freddie while the tax payers have to fit the bill.
      No amount of spin you try to put on it is going to change that....
      Mr Post Partisan took more than McCain....deal with it.....

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 2:10:25 PM

    Anger, and desperation reign in the Obama campaign as most Democratic candidates
    refuse to appear with Obama.
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    You dopy, lousy, loose brained jerk.... The only thing you are correct is that Barbara Streiser will perform at an Obama fundraiser. What's wrong with that when all the GOPers also had celebrities at their fundraising events?
    Sorrry jerk, you lost your thinking brain along the way inthe Straight Talk Express...

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 2:03:33 PM

    John McCain wants to establish a 9/11 commission to investigate the economic meltdown...
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    What?? This is the same as Bush, who allowed the establishment of the IraqI Study Group an the 9/11 commission. Once they were done with their investigations, Bush disregarded most of their recommendations (only accepted some of those recommendations in piecemeals).
    McBush is now doing the same. A guy who said the "fundamentals of the economy are strong"; a guy who admitted that economics is not one of the subjects he understands; a guy who stuffed his campaign with lobbyists and ex-Bush aides; a guy who was part of the Keating Five; a guy who said that $5 million is the amount that defines middle class America....

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/16/2008 2:01:56 PM

    Suspense at the Obama headquarters in Chicago as Biden refuses to step down.. Negotiations continue between Obama and Clinton over her role in his administration should she become Vice President. Pamela Anderson to be nominated to head new Department of Sex Education. Barbara Streisand to sign at Obama fund raiser.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/16/2008 1:40:15 PM

    Fiorina: "Palin Doesn't Have Experience To Run A Major Company"
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    I thought Sean Hannity, Rush Limbaugh, McCain and Fiorina and Phutenhauer said that she "Had Great Executive Experience" and that "She Managed one of the Largest Cities in the State of Alaska" ...LIES

    Anchorage, FairBanks & Juneau are the Largest supposed Cities...Wasilla is a [Town] or better Still a [Hamlet]

    Obama could've been a Fortune 500 Executive or CEO of any Major Corporation...Period.

    Fiorina: In fact caused the Corporation she headed up to FAIL ..I Believe it was [Hewlett-Packard]

    Phutenhauer: was asked who did she Vote for in the Last Election or did she Vote for Bush Jr. and she Adamantly Refused to say it was Bush Jr.....Had it been me, I would've said, it was Bush Jr. If I'm a Republican and then ask who did You Vote for ...Hmmmm

    But The B!tch Did'nt, which leads me to one Conclusion, The B!tch, did not Vote for Bush Jr.

    Fiorina: "Palin Doesn't Have Experience To Run A Major Company"

    September 16, 2008 12:25 PM
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    Carly Fiorina, a key surrogate for John McCain on economic issues, said on Tuesday that Sarah Palin does not have the experience needed to run a major company like the one that Fiorina formerly headed.

    "Do you think [Sarah Palin] has the experience to run a major company, like Hewlett Packard?" asked the host.

    Note: "No, I Don't," responded Fiorina. "But you know what ? That's not what she's running for."

    Appearing on the McGraw-Milhaven Show on St. Louis KTRS Radio, Fiorina went on to stress that the Alaska Republican had more executive experience than anyone else on the ticket, specifically Barack Obama.

    "I find it quite stunning actually that the Barack Obama campaign is questioning Sarah Palin's experience," she said. "She has more executive experience than he does and she is the vice presidential nominee and he is the presidential nominee."

    But the admission that Palin wasn't prepared to run the very business that Fiorina once headed is a gaffe that could come back to haunt the McCain campaign. Certainly, when critics mainly argue that Palin lacks the gravitas to step in for McCain at a moment's notice, and when the economy is the major topic on the campaign trail, it is easy to see how Fiorina's comment could make it's way into an Obama or DNC attack ad.
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  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/16/2008 1:26:04 PM

    Karl Rove, Brit Hume, Fox News and CNN News,

    All AGREE that Obama would WIN the Presidency Via the [Electorral College]....

    The current Real Clear Politics electoral map reflects the latest polls; it is not a prediction of the outcome

    One week ago today, I launched Stumper's general-election coverage with an in-depth look at where the "Race for the White House" stood in the wake of the Democratic and Republican nominating conventions. While the national polls had swung about 9 points in John McCain's direction since the Democrats left Denver, the Real Clear Politics electoral map still tilted every so slightly toward Barack Obama, [273 to 265]

    But the Illinois senator's slim lead was hardly set in stone--as I noted at the time. "No battleground state polls have been released since the second day of the Republican Convention," I wrote. "If the national surveys are right and McCain has in fact received a 5-point post-St. Paul bounce, that enthusiasm will almost certainly trickle down." I promised to revisit the map once the dust had settled.

    Well, now it has. And what it shows is ... drumroll, please ... more of the SAME !!!

    According to Real Clear Politics, this week's map, posted above, is identical to last week's.

    Obama is Still Leading............ [273 Electoral Votes to 265] !!!!

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/16/2008 1:24:52 PM

    Another Swift Boat Vet Bows Out of Obama Attacks

    By Matthew Mosk

    Another veteran of the Swift Boat campaign against John Kerry has indicated he will not participate in financing ads attacking Democrat Barack Obama.

    Already, Texas oilman T. Boone Pickens said in interviews that he would bow out to pursue a campaign to end the nation's dependence on foreign oil. Now a second major donor, Texas billionaire Sam Wyly, who has given about $10 million to Republican candidates and causes since the 1970s, has said publicly he will not participate in independent group efforts to tarnish Obama this year.

    A number of veterans of the withering ad campaign against Kerry in 2004, which was sponsored by the Swift Boat Veterans for Truth, are trying to reorganize in the final weeks of the 2008 campaign through the American Issues Project, The Post reported over the weekend. But in an interview with the Associated Press published this morning, Wyly was asked if he would finance another Swift Boat-type campaign this year.

    "No, no, no," Wyly said. Laughing, he said, "I've done that, and other people can do that now."

    One clue as to why he might be sitting this election out can be found in his 2000 campaign efforts. Wyly gave $2.5 million to a group that favored then-Gov. George W. Bush over Sen. John McCain. McCain complained bitterly about the ads, calling on the Federal Election Commission and the Federal Communications Commission to investigate the group, which went by the name Republicans for Clean Air.

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 1:24:21 PM

    Anger, and desperation reign in the Obama campaign as most Democratic candidates
    refuse to appear with Obama.
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    Bin Laden would love to have you onboard because you seem to be a master of propaganda.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/16/2008 1:24:08 PM

    Sarah Palin's Foreign On The Job Training: Having a United Nations "Cup Of Tea" "Meet & Great" is Not...The Equivalent Of foreign Policy or Foreign EXPERIENCE...

    SORRY SARAH ITS A VERY SORRIFUL ATTEMPT ON THE MCCAIN CAMPAIGN'S PART AS WELL....

    TO SHORE UP PALIN'S LACK OF INTERNATIONAL, MORE OVER HER LACK OF NATIONAL EXPERIENCE !!!
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    Source: The Washington Wire

    September 16, 2008, 12:46 pm

    Palin to Meet Foreign Leaders at U.N.

    Monica Langley reports on the presidential race.

    Republican vice presidential candidate Sarah Palin will meet with foreign leaders next week at the United Nations, a move to boost her foreign-policy credentials, a Republican strategist said.

    Republican candidate John McCain plans to introduce the Alaska governor to heads of state at the opening of the U.N. General Assembly, although specific names weren???t yet firmed up. ???The meetings will give her some exposure and experience with foreign leaders,??? the strategist said. ???It???s a great idea.???

    McCain and Palin are expected to visit the U.N. on Tuesday, when President George W. Bush will address the international body.

    Since her nomination, Palin has energized the Republican base, drawn huge crowds and propelled fund-raising. However, Democrats have attacked her as weak on foreign policy experience. Even on last week???s ???Saturday Night Live,??? actress Tina Fey spoofed Palin???s assertion that she is familiar with issues involving Russia, noting that Alaska is nearby. ???I can see Russia from my house!??? Fey-as-Palin said.

    But McCain advisers hope her U.N. visit will show how quickly Palin can make key connections and become well-versed in foreign-policy issues.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 09/16/2008 1:23:09 PM

    David Brooks writes in the New York Times that Sarah Palin is unqualified:

    In the current Weekly Standard, Steven Hayward argues that the nation's founders wanted uncertified citizens to hold the highest offices in the land. They did not believe in a separate class of professional executives. They wanted rough and rooted people like Palin.

    I would have more sympathy for this view if I hadn't just lived through the last eight years. For if the Bush administration was anything, it was the anti-establishment attitude put into executive practice.

    And the problem with this attitude is that, especially in his first term, it made Bush inept at governance. It turns out that governance, the creation and execution of policy, is hard. It requires acquired skills. Most of all, it requires prudence.

    ...

    Sarah Palin has many virtues. If you wanted someone to destroy a corrupt establishment, she'd be your woman. But the constructive act of governance is another matter. She has not been engaged in national issues, does not have a repertoire of historic patterns and, like President Bush, she seems to compensate for her lack of experience with brashness and excessive decisiveness.

    Ross Douthat agrees at the Atlantic:

    Now that we've seen the entirety of the Palin-Gibson tete-a-tete, I concur with Rich Lowry and Rod Dreher. The most that can be said in her defense is that she kept her cool and avoided any brutal gaffes; other than that, she seemed about an inch deep on every issue outside her comfort zone. Yes, the questions were tougher than the ones that a Tim Kaine or Tim Pawlenty probably would have been handed, but they were all questions that a vice-presidential nominee needs to be able to answer.

    And there's no way to look at her performance as anything save supporting evidence for the non-hysterical critique of her candidacy - that it's just too much, too soon - and a splash of cold water for those of us with high hopes for her future on the national stage.

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 1:13:45 PM

    Sorry liberal loser, Barack Hussein Obama is WAY too liberal to get elected.
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    Sorry con, your candidates are TOO CON to be elected, and they will establish a culture in the White ouse where lying becomes the new religion of American politics.

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 1:00:51 PM

    According to reliable sources, pressure continues to build on Biden to resign
    after his poor performance yesterday in Michigan.
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    Hey, shut up, lapog of Rove.

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 12:58:35 PM

    AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | September 15, 2008
    The cover-up is now so blatant that an article that is generally sympathetic to Davis
    has been edited by the Obama campaign in order to delete references to Davis???s
    CPUSA activities.
    In a surprising admission, Barack Obama???s 40-page so-called ???rebuttal??? to Jerome
    Corsi???s book, The Obama Nation, acknowledges for the first time that the senator
    once had a personal relationship with identified Communist Party USA (CPUSA) member
    Frank Marshall Davis, a key high-level operative in a Soviet-sponsored network in
    Hawaii.
    For full article: http://www.aim.org/aim-report/media-abet-communist-cover-up/
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    LOL SEA Orgy! All you can do is dig dirt from conservative websites, not the mainstream media or factchecking sources? You know, America is not too stupid like you to swallow everything and readily what cons (conservatives) say, because they usually feed us their bullshit. 'Obama Nation' author is a neo-con. Google on it, and his writings reflection racist, neo-con undertones.
    And the Obama's association with that perceived communist? Almost all of our politicians, Republicans especially, have been at one time in their political career been associated with any organization and any politician that have little to do with their agenda. You can, then, call Bush the terrorist because there is evidence he previously was linked to the Saudi Arabia based bin Laden family and he is a somewhat close friend of the Saudi king...

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/16/2008 12:55:42 PM

    Anger, and desperation reign in the Obama campaign as most Democratic candidates refuse to appear with Obama.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 09/16/2008 12:54:05 PM

    They are obviously making their answers up as they go along. However the Republicans can???t solve the problems when they simply are the problem. And McCain-Palin???s desperate lying can???t change that but rather just further proves the point; if you can???t trust what they say, how can you ever trust they would change anything? Some may prefer that it would be different but the reality is that the only chance for any real change, which would sincerely benefit the majority of Americans, is with Obama-Biden!

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 12:50:37 PM

    OOPS, I accidentlaly cut out the part on McCain...
    The Republican nominee, Mr. McCain of Arizona, has numerous close relationships with
    and contributions from current and former company lobbyists.
    Mr. Obama, his Democratic rival from Illinois, is second among members of Congress
    in donations from the firms??? employees and political action committees.
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/09/10/us/politics/10fannie.html

  • Posted By: SEA Observer @ 09/16/2008 12:30:44 PM

    Media Abet Communist Cover-Up

    AIM Report | By Cliff Kincaid | September 15, 2008

    The cover-up is now so blatant that an article that is generally sympathetic to Davis has been edited by the Obama campaign in order to delete references to Davis???s CPUSA activities.

    In a surprising admission, Barack Obama???s 40-page so-called ???rebuttal??? to Jerome Corsi???s book, The Obama Nation, acknowledges for the first time that the senator once had a personal relationship with identified Communist Party USA (CPUSA) member Frank Marshall Davis, a key high-level operative in a Soviet-sponsored network in Hawaii.

    For full article: http://www.aim.org/aim-report/media-abet-communist-cover-up/

  • Posted By: casher 22 @ 09/16/2008 12:22:25 PM

    POLLS: The current Pollsters take 500 voters and come up with some magic number- Now, what happen in the Primaries both parties? The talking heads on TV where all wrong, had Hillary big, due to the polls? There is a hidden element that no one is talking about and don't know about. The voters who havn't voted in 8- 40 yrs. The hidden element, Pollsters can go into any area and ask who they are voting, depending time of day , area, conservative, liberal. The polls havn't meant much, but everyone swears by them. As the man says, " polls change every 20 mins. OBAMA will not only win but will win big! DEMS everywhere, are like a coiled snake, ready to strike, the quit before the storm, and Abortion Right, If Family really Matters, wouldn't vote Republician, for Republician some Dems have destroyed the American Family. Displaced home owners, must be there fault - still displaced due to food, gas, mortages. Hope all you 30,00 a yr. Republicians, God Told Me So, WWJD Crowd are proud of your Boy GW Bush and his legency of Screwing America so the rich elite can live Proud. Go America, Elect Todd Palin For President- Why not- No pain no Gain- High Schoolers Forever in Federal Gov. I'm Out

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/16/2008 12:15:39 PM

    Intense negotiations said to be underway between Hillary Clinton and Obama over her role in his administration were she to accept the VP spot after Biden drops out. Mrs. Clinton is insisting on veto power over Supreme Court and Cabinet nominations. The negotiations are taking place in Ossining, New York.

  • Posted By: Iron Horse @ 09/16/2008 12:03:12 PM

    Why should there be any tension between the press and the obama campaign.
    After all, they have done nothing but cover for him, refuse to ask meaningful questions
    about his record or experience (or lack thereof) and generally kiss his feet. So
    why is the obama campaign complaining?
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    Hey, Obama has been in the national limelight for more than 20 months, so what the heck do you mean the media is not asking meaningful questions? He had dozens and dozens of interviews, so why woud any reporter fail to do so? He had debated more than a dozen time with Hillary, and he answered tough and seemingly unfair (meant only to stir emotions) questions like the Ayers issue which he has nothing to do. The media is refusing to ask meaningful questions? I guess that is because your definition of "meaningful" does not even belong in the English vocabular.
    The media has been much more friendly to McCain at times, and it would have gone aggressively after his disgraceful lies in every ad he posted if the media were evenly balanced between Obama and McCain. ut for the smallest gaffe Obama makes, he gets disproprotionate attention.
    CRY ME AN OCEAN NOW!

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