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  • Posted By: ladalang @ 09/15/2008 2:25:49 PM

    People this isn't free market this is corporatism. Austrian economics is the only true free market theory. In a free market a corporate monopoly box store doesn't own and control all distribution to the point they are the only ones with flashlights and then can set the price. This is total propaganda to justify the screwing consumers are getting in the market place. You want true free market 101: http://mises.org/story/3029

  • Posted By: ladalang @ 09/15/2008 2:23:36 PM

    People this isn't free market this is corporatism. Austrian economics is the only true free market theory. In a free market a corporate monopoly box store doesn't own and control all distribution to the point they are the only ones with flashlights and then can set the price. This is total propaganda to justify the screwing consumers are getting in the market place. You want true free market 101: http://mises.org/story/3029

  • Posted By: robpatozz @ 09/15/2008 11:58:44 AM

    Let's elect the only true candidate before us, Dr. Ron Paul. Unlike the others, he does not bow to conform to the Communist views of the power elite, aka The private Federal Reserve System, The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and the United Nations (founded by Communists for the proliferation of one world government, aka Globalization or New World Order). Unfortunately, our servant government has become the master, and ???We the People??? are now ???We the Serfs???. Let???s have ???Ruth??? pair up with Dr. Paul and give this economy the dose of medicine it really needs. Abolish the Fed, NAFTA, the UN, WTO and let truly free markets and FREEDOM reign supreme! Write in Ron Paul if you value Liberty.

  • Posted By: robpatozz @ 09/15/2008 11:58:17 AM

    Let's elect the only true candidate before us, Dr. Ron Paul. Unlike the others, he does not bow to conform to the Communist views of the power elite, aka The private Federal Reserve System, The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR), and the United Nations (founded by Communists for the proliferation of one world government, aka Globalization or New World Order). Unfortunately, our servant government has become the master, and ???We the People??? are now ???We the Serfs???. Let???s have ???Ruth??? pair up with Dr. Paul and give this economy the dose of medicine it really needs. Abolish the Fed, NAFTA, the UN, WTO and let truly free markets and FREEDOM reign supreme! Write in Ron Paul if you value Liberty.

  • Posted By: littlepear.com @ 09/15/2008 9:44:02 AM

    I, too, enjoyed your article Mr. Will. On a side note, technology has advanced so that a jazz quartet is now able to improve a tune when the band members are in separate cities http://www.ejamming.com/

    The Internet has fostered many other wonderful creations as well. It is certainly the "pencil" effect of distant cooperations of people across the world from each other who've never even met each other.

    I believe that as long as mega-corporations control the mainstream media coverage of our bipartisan political pundits, tyranny will continue to mount across the United States until people once again look to their U.S. Constitution, the supreme law of the land, and cry out for the rights which they surrendered without protest to George W. Bush's Patriot Act and his Military Commissions Act in the name of safety.

    I believe that privately-owned Federal Reserve Corporation (Rockefellers, J.P. Morgan, et al) will not rest until they own all our houses and banks, and that they want foreign invaders crossing our borders so they can acquire more payers of their Unconstitutional Federal Income Tax.

  • Posted By: Theo6 @ 09/15/2008 8:13:37 AM

    Well Done, Mr. Will...But most of your readers have never run a business or had to 'make a payroll' for their employees. And most think it is easy to do...Dreamers!!
    I just read a statement by Robert X. Cringely...paraphrased...We lost manufacturing jobs in the USA because of ISO certification. Any company, anywhere can produce and sell any product to anyone if it meets ISO standards.
    The USA no longer has significant control of where the labor market resides. But we do have the benefit of the lower cost products that become available to us. We are being somewhat humbled by the freemarket system....and we have ot learn to compete in this 21st century environment.
    Theo6

  • Posted By: linda in cincinnati @ 09/15/2008 6:02:36 AM

    And...if you want to see more jobs shipped out of this "shameful" capitalist and market driven society then just wait 'til Obamanomics takes effect. How will he "redistribute" zero/-0- dollars between the non-taxpayers?

  • Posted By: linda in cincinnati @ 09/15/2008 5:57:44 AM

    Muddle muddle muddle. Why not bring faith, marriage, abortion, ptsd, Iraq, street gangs, muggings, banks/bankrupt. WE LIVE IN A CAPITALIST SOCIETY. WHEN THE CAPITALIST IS PUNISHED FOR INVESTING AND CREATING JOBS THEY WILL LEAVE. What part of that is difficult to understand? You get what you give.

  • Posted By: TM303 @ 09/15/2008 3:38:57 AM

    This essay is code for "laissez faire" which, if you don't like French (perhaps we should now say "Freedom"), is what Obama means by the economics of "you're on your own." Well, after the meltdown this weekend, do we want another eight years of "you're on your own"? I remember when the markets were opened up and opened up in the eighties--in part by McCain architect Phil Gramm.

  • Posted By: MarineBugler @ 09/14/2008 9:22:21 AM

    How does this article account for what happened to the housing market and the amount of financial institutions that are on the verge of collapse? We are NOT talking about pencils, in this regard. How does ???unabated greed??? and fraud play into the free market equation? What about depleted natural resources and the consequences that this poses for the future? Will nations become more aggressive towards each other as resources become scarce? I am all for a free market, but I also seem to remember that we replaced the indigenous society (Native Americans) that was more in-tune with the natural world and seemed to be doing just fine without a BIG-BOX store and a FREE-MARKET.

    • Posted By: robslimithy99 @ 09/14/2008 10:55:32 AM

      WHat happened in the housing market was unfortunate. But if the market is allowed to work and those that made the mistakes (people who bought houses they couldn't afford, bankers who loaned money to people who likely couldn't pay it back) will face the consequences of financial loss. A free market only works if there are consequences to bad investments. Instead our gov't is buying out everyone so nobody suffers consequences. This is artificially keeping housing prices high. If the were allowed to crash, and yes it would be a crash, then supply would be opened up to people who need homes but couldn't afford them (can anyone say Bay Area CA, and borrowers and loaners would learn a hard lesson that might keep this from happening again.The free market is still the answer. No one says its perfect or that no one loses, its just the best for long term growth, stability, and prosperity.

      • Posted By: Chicagoman66 @ 09/15/2008 12:14:35 AM

        Let's get something straight, it is not "the government" that bailed out the GSE's, it was us taxpayers. It is Hank Paulson and the Treasury, along with Bernanke and the Fed (Bear Stearns) using our tax money. This is not capitalism, but Crony Capitalism. Much worse!

    • Posted By: truelibertarian @ 09/14/2008 4:32:26 PM

      MarineBugler wrote, "How does this article account for what happened to the housing market and the amount of financial institutions that are on the verge of collapse? ... How does ???unabated greed??? and fraud play into the free market equation?"

      I don't think this article accounts for much; rather, it teases us into finding out more about the subject by reading the cited book (or L. Read's original essay, mentioned elsewhere here in this comment thread). But I did want to say that government not only encouraged, but practically forced lenders to make loans to very risky borrowers in the name of "social fairness." As you may recall, tight credit in decades gone by was said to lock many groups out of home ownership. On the theory that what most people needed was a hand, not a handout, government created institutions (Fannie Mae in the 40s and Freddie Mac in the 70s, I believe) that would, in effect, let the government stand behind shaky mortgages. The result was that many more people got into the housing market, bidding prices up. So all of these people had to go into debt for even MORE money, and eventually, when the economy began to sour, they couldn't keep up their payments and went into BK and foreclosure. On the other side, people who already had mortgages or owned their homes outright got into debt to tap the ballooning equity. When the economy began to sour, THEY found themselves losing their homes or being at least chained to them, on account of owing more on the mortgages than the properties were worth on the market. Absent government's intervention in the market, stricter credit rules would have continued -- because lenders want to get their money back! -- and the present woes we face would not have come to pass. On the other hand, many disadvantaged people would never have had the temporary thrill of home ownership, and the few who were very careful about managing their finances after getting their risky mortgages, might not now own homes. Was that small relative benefit worth all the global economic crisis we are seeing today? You can decide that for yourself.

  • Posted By: Natasha Rice @ 09/14/2008 10:21:42 AM

    This article makes an important point in distinguishing the economic programs of Barack Obama and John McCain. Obama proposes to use the government to take from the rich and give to the poor to improve economic conditions. In other words, the government will make you better off. McCain proposes to unleash the energies of the private sector to improve economic conditions. In other words, the free market will provide more opportunity for more people. American voters will be making a fundamental decision regarding the direction of our economy in the this election.

    • Posted By: Chicagoman66 @ 09/15/2008 12:10:02 AM

      I find this comment ridiculous. McCain is anything but a Libertarian. In fact Ron Paul said not to vote for him. We have had 8 yrs. of Republican rule (6 of which include both houses) and we find ourselves starring at an economic abyss. Banks are failing, debt has doubled and the dollar has lost 33% since GWB took office. The question is do we want another Republican to finish the job, like Herbert Hoover?

    • Posted By: Chicagoman66 @ 09/15/2008 12:05:33 AM

      This comment is ridiculous. McCain and the Republicans will do nothing of the sort. it is laughable to even think this. Too much kool-aid for you. We are on the edge of economic collapse due to 8 yrs. of reckless leadership. Do we elect a Republican to finish the job? Republicans are not private sector capitalist, but corp/gov crony capitalists...much worse. McCain is anything but a Libertarian like Hayek or Mises. If fact Ron Paul said not to vote for him.

  • Posted By: gbnyc @ 09/14/2008 4:15:58 PM

    "Nonsense, her students think???someone made that one. Not really, says Ruth. Loggers felled the cedar trees, truckers hauled them, manufacturers built the machines that cut the wood into five-sided portions to hold graphite"

    Five sided?

    • Posted By: Alumino @ 09/14/2008 5:48:31 PM

      Cut a solid hexagon in half, not at the corners, but midway along two opposite edges. Now each piece has 2 "full hexagon edges", 2 "half hexagon edges", and 1 edge that resulted from the cut. 5 edges. Hence five-sided (in the 3D sense, ignoring the top and bottom face.)

    • Posted By: Alumino @ 09/14/2008 5:43:26 PM

      Cut a solid hexagon in half, slicing not through the corners, but midway through two opposite faces. now you have two pieces, each with 2 full "hexagon faces", 2 half "hexagon faces, and 1 face from the cut. Thus five-sided. Put the graphite in the middle of a sandwich of these and you have a pencil.

  • Posted By: linda in cincinnati @ 09/13/2008 4:25:49 PM

    How dare Big Box capitalize on the market. Supply demand..supply demand, hummm? And who cares that it takes a few million people to make one pencil. Time, one of our more valuable commodities, often wasted on shopping for the cheapest pencil.

    • Posted By: truelibertarian @ 09/14/2008 4:16:56 PM

      I agree that the free-market and its pricing system bring forth spontaneous order, without any czar or central planning being necessary. And I disagree with another poster here who tried to give government credit for interjecting itself at every step along the way. But even if the market works as Will describes when it is operating optimally, there are still situations in which people charge whatever the traffic will bear for their products or labor, taking advantage of the wild overestimation of value that happens when people act irrationally, due to being gripped by a fad, when emotional because of personal crisis, natural disaster, etc. Also, many contributors to the "poetry of the possible" do not themselves honor or operate according to the rules and traditions of free markets. We trade with China and many other socialist countries, for example, where levels of government intervention that dwarfs our own are commonplace. It would be helpful to understand how the free market ameliorates such abuses, or whether it actually encourages and exacerbates them. The latter possibility is, I believe, what makes the phrase "free market capitalism" into a curse word and an insult, when uttered by left-wing mouths.

  • Posted By: BigMoneyDan @ 09/14/2008 4:14:28 PM

    An excellent article. Unfortunately, most Americans, including conservatives, are immune to understanding its lessons. I'm an American investment banker living as an ex-pat in China. I've tried to remain optimistic about America's future, but it is clear that America is being left in the dust.

    For those who argue that all of these industries need government oversight, please read a 1963 article by Alan Greenspan entitled "Reputation." For those who point to the recent mortgage debacle as evidence that the free market does not work, the opposite is true. I join my Chinese colleagues in the belief that any objective analysis leads to the conclusion that the United States is more communist than China.

    More than 2 billion people live in Asia, and they are hungry for what we have historically called the "American Dream." They are self-reliant and know, intuitively, that their ability to achieve that dream is maximized if the government will just get out of their way. This self-reliance and hunger to achieve is gone in America. Neither Obama or McCain, with their big government beliefs, will affect any change in this ethic. Here's some straight talk for America: unless the spirit of self-reliance and understanding of spontaneous order stages a comeback, those jobs that have been moved here to China are never coming back.

  • Posted By: tremendoustie @ 09/14/2008 3:19:48 PM

    Timrogers, I agree that we should work to improve conditions for these workers. We can (and I do) do this through the purchase of "fair trade" goods, and by contributing to charities. It is important to realize, however, that as long as these people are hired voluntarily (they are not slaves) these businesses do help the people to at least some extent -- they are better off than if they did not exist. This is obvious, because the people could chose not to work for them if they preferred. It is important to realize that the ???free market??? is the most efficient way of distributing goods and services, but it does not absolve us from morality as people, and does not remove our responsibilities towards our fellow man. I firmly believe, however, that these moral responsibilities should be satisfied through charity, volunteerism, and our own responsible choices, rather than through coercive government action.

  • Posted By: tremendoustie @ 09/14/2008 3:19:37 PM

    Timrogers, I agree that we should work to improve conditions for these workers. We can (and I do) do this through the purchase of "fair trade" goods, and by contributing to charities. It is important to realize, however, that as long as these people are hired voluntarily (they are not slaves) these businesses do help the people to at least some extent -- they are better off than if they did not exist. This is obvious, because the people could chose not to work for them if they preferred. It is important to realize that the ???free market??? is the most efficient way of distributing goods and services, but it does not absolve us from morality as people, and does not remove our responsibilities towards our fellow man. I firmly believe, however, that these moral responsibilities should be satisfied through charity, volunteerism, and our own responsible choices, rather than through coercive government action.

  • Posted By: timrogers @ 09/14/2008 2:48:25 PM

    The invisible magic that produces the pencil allows "order to emerge without anyone imposing it". George might want to drop by a few of the facilities along this miraculous manufacturing chain to marvel at how order is actually imposed. Anywhere along the way will do, but I think the mines might be the best place to start. I suppose it all depends on your definition of the word impose. I guess the production quotas and working conditions for some of these workers could be the result of their own free will, and not considered to be 'imposed' in any way. Maybe they do enjoy working from sunup to sundown seven days a week. Imagine the frivolity in a chinese sweat shop where they merrily stamp " George Will is an idiot" on the pencils fourteen hours a day. Anyway there will always be that marvelous pencil to admire because of the "poetry of the possible". Work will set you free or so they say.

  • Posted By: bgarst @ 09/14/2008 2:24:20 PM

    Mwalimu: You should try to inform yourself before posting. The institutions being bailed out are not bastions of the free market at all, they are government sponsored entities that were insulated from risk and encouraged (for political reasons) to promote home ownership among groups not fiscally prepared for the task. Your posts are typical of the reactionary, anti-market left in their blatant disregard for truth.

  • Posted By: bgarst @ 09/14/2008 2:24:05 PM

    Mwalimu: You should try to inform yourself before posting. The institutions being bailed out are not bastions of the free market at all, they are government sponsored entities that were insulated from risk and encouraged (for political reasons) to promote home ownership among groups not fiscally prepared for the task. Your posts are typical of the reactionary, anti-market left in their blatant disregard for truth.

    Your posts

  • Posted By: Mwalimu @ 09/14/2008 2:05:17 PM

    George F. Will and the famous professor Ruth are cloistered in the ivy tower that, like John McCain, they can't seem to understand the real world.
    For instance, the summer edition of USW@Work reports that in 2006 alone 5,840 workers were killed in work-related accidents. 50,000 to 60,000 worker died of occupational-related diseases. According to USA@Work , the causes of these fatalities is first of all the gutting of the OHSA, and secondly that workers are being forced to work longer hours in hazardous, if not lethal working conditions. Like the Communists in the old Evil Empire, economists like Ruth, pundits like Will, and the GOP, including John McCain are virulently anti-union. John McCain is virulently opposed to the Employee Free Choice Act which would enable disenfranchised workers to organize and bargain for more working place rights. As far as McCain, Ruth and Will are concerned, God put blue collar workers on the planet only to be used and abused by their employers..

    To see what the future holds for the vast majority of Americans, not George F. Will in his paneled study. We need to read article published the Los Angeles Times, (September 14), titled ???Foreseeable Devastation??? by Amy Wilentz. Amy Wilentz writes
    ???Haiti has long been a privatized economy, a place where the state functions largely as a kleptocracy. This is one place where Ronald Reagan???s fantasy of a truly privatized economy actually exists. The schools are privately run, so they cost too much and teach almost nothing. Sanitation is privatized: trash get collected regularly among the rich, but not in the shanty towns. Medical care is privatized, the rich get good care, the poor pay steep prices for old medicines. Public transportation is privatized: That???s why most Haitians walk and carry their goods on their heads. And nothing, but nothing, is regulated,.???
    Ironically enough, Adam Smith, the god father of capitalism, favored taxation He felt that citizens should be proud pay taxes because it was a sign of their liberty. He also felt the wealthy should be proud and willing to pay more taxes than the poor because it was not only a symbol of pride, but it was giving back to the society that enabled them to prosper. He also recognized that poverty was bad for business. People can???t patronize businesses if they are too broke to buy anything, or so sick that they have to spend all their money for health insurance. Incidentally prisons are a lousy way of solving social problems . It costs a lot more to put a boy from the ???hood behind bars than it does to send him to college on a full-paid scholarship. Smith in short would find nothing wrong with inveting in all the programs dear to a liberal's heart..

    Apparently neither economics professor Ruth and George F. Will fully understand Adam smith. For real, there???s a good reason for the F in George F. Wills name. In economics, Wills earns a ???big fat F.???

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