Pakistan’s Dangerous Double Game

Glad to see retardation is not exclusive to the US. Save your Pakistan conspiracy theories losers. The US buying technology from Pakistan? As if. We are funding the terrorists to destabilize the country? Make a new tin foil hat their buddy.

I keep telling you we need to nuke Pakistan, Iran, Syria, Russia and every POS EVIL country that plots harm to the US.... F*c K the liberals that say otherwise...

It has been said that the enemy of my enemy is my friend. This statment is certainly applicable here. Pakistan is doing what it has always done, is looking out in what it views as it's national interest. We in the US and other Western countries may want to think that Pakistan is working on fightiing terrorists, and it is, but only those terrorists that it views as terrorists that are going to harm the national interests or individuals of Pakistan, all the other fighters or terrorists that only want to use Pakistan as a safe place to rest and resupply will always be untouched by Pakistan because they pose no threat to anyone within the country and the terrorist group can later be utilized by Pakistan, should it feel that it needs them against Idia or to make trouble in other parts like Iran or Cashmire. Pakistan cannot be trusted, never has been a good partner at anything and is only playing a game with the West to get military hardware and money. It may station and deploy their military once in a while in the Tribal areas but only when it absolutely needs too to keep the aid coming and only against those terrorists that it feels it does need or pose some rist to Pakistan. Osama Bin Ladin and his group are protected because they pay for their protection and because as long as they are not captured, the West will continue to send Pakistan billions of dollars to them. The US and Nato have to just bite the bullet, only fund Pakistan when it behaves like a true partner on this war and not when it does not. Additionally, since the Tribal lands are ungoverned by Pakistan, then the Allies need to just go after the Terrorist on our own and the hell with Pakistan. If Pakistan will not stop and police this area, then it is ungoverned and abandoned by Pakistan and open to who ever wants to go in there and kill the enemy.

The tragedy of our limited military involvement in Afghanistan is just another example of American attitute toward Afghanistan after the defeat of the Soviet Union. America had and still has many good resources at its disposal to finish off the Al Qaida and Taliban, but unforttanelty America relies too much on contractors who made a mess of everything, but also act like arrogant governemts all by themselves.

Hundres of comapnies and thousands of individuals became rich in the Iraq and Afghan wars, and there is no accountability. What happened to billions of Dollars and this trend still goes on

After seven years of fighting in Afghanistan, the granting of security clearance process to qualified and dedictaed individuals who could have made a difference is still in 2001 standard. It takes years to get clearance and this is a tragic loss of good and knowledgeable manpower and intelligence. The insurgents had all this time to train, re-organize and obtain more sophiticated weapons and recruits, while the DOD Security Clearance Office still has not granted clearance to people who are waiting since 2004. This whole thing is taking the shape of a comedy- tragedy drama and I blame Pentagon for all the delays and failures.

I have worked with American military and DOD contractors, and I am sad to report that Most of these people, especilly commanders and private company supervisors are the most arrogant, ignorant and uneducated people I have met, but yet, they are not willing to listen to anybody else who might have better information.

And finally, it has been ponited out over and over that Pakistan is directly helping the Taliban and Al Qaida, but nobody paid heed. Now we are at a crossrad in Afghanistan and have to deal with it. We cannot afford to cut and run, because we know full well what would happen when we do cut and run.

Haqqani, a reason for concern as pertaining to Pakistan's reluctance to permit more American combat missions on its soil? Well, frankly, NO! How many of us true-blooded Americans tire of these costly exploits on the friendly neighbor's soil of countries our forces now occupy. Seems like that's all America does is occupy: Iraq. Afghanastan, and what-not? I don't blame Pakistan's reluctance to permit airstrikes by Amrican forces on its territory, even if it's for to cause harm to a common foe, because, as Pakistani officials argue, their tenure as head of governement is shakey at best after the fact of the anti-Americanism in the region. Americans may get away with bombing civilians in occupied nations, but in friendly countries co-operating with our war efforts, or some may arguably counter as "war game" efforts. For this, our country, is in a lot of trouble with a crippled economy and the second greatest debt load in its history. That is our primary concern now that the war in Afghanistan to eliminate Bin Laden was usurped by the one in Iraq to eliminate Saddam Huessein. So let be, and bring our countrymen home to our recessed nation. Bring them home with the post traumatic stress disorders, lack of limbs, and brain damage. Haven't the highest and price--and enough--for OUR war games? The war in Afghanistan is lost, so fools beware of this squander of human life there, and if you care more--As America does--for money more than human life, then end the war in Afghanistan for money's sake, all you lost souls and fools.

The problem is that for our military high command, their narrow institutional interests come first, and most of the time they equate their interests with national interests. But now we are facing a catch-22 situation. On the one hand, the Pakistani Army has neither the capacity nor the willingness to fight an all-out war against the militants, and on the other, it is not ready to allow the civilian government to take control of the Afghan policy. This is from a pakistan journalist. http://www.dawn.com/2008/09/15/op.htm#2

India has been telling the international media for years about Pakistan and ISI's true identity. US has learnt with experience. You cannot trust any government in Pakistan. Their survival is based on these terrrorist organizations.
Also the Pakistan army is itself based on Islamic principles and not on Democratic principles.
People in Afghanistan have been fighting for 1000s of years now. The tribal areas are not in Pakistani control.

the only way of current crisis is to stop arms supplies done by chinese to these areas. Chinese are on the background giving all the tactical support in terms of arms,technology even infrastructure to Pakistanis.

Also, there is a need to make sure that the funding sources from US and middle eastern countries are cut off. You cannot fight and defeat these people (Taliban,Pakistani army,ISI). Soviets tried for a decade and had to run away.

Also, if you can think back, US has been always on the wrong side when they supplied weapons to Afghans to fight against Soviets.
US need to have better understnading of ground reality, inculde countries like India in their fight against terror.

Bottomline, It is of no use to expect any support from Pakistani establishment.

To awaysahmad4u, sidralii, I am trying to understand your comments; however, your writing is full of run-ons and it's not clear what you're implying. I know "?" is a question mark but, what does "??" or "???" mean? Do you capitalize an entire word because it's a noun or deliberately for emphasis? Moreover, you hardly use periods to end your sentences, additionally, your grammar is hard to follow. An english professor I am not; notwithstanding, please write better otherwise you have just wasted your time because nobody would understand your comments.

Looking at all hat has been written in this article all I can say is that us and Pakistan do not want this war to end Obama comes up with idea of going more in to fata and Pakistan and the bush administration follows its not about Taliban , Pakistan or Islamic fundamentalists the game is being played some where else and none of us are taking in to consideration that if Pakistan wants they can get rid of the militancy there its a fact , but why not as this is an issue which keeps the country busy and keeps the big man happy(US Of A)

With a few months left in his Presidency, George Bush intends to go out with a Bang, maybe literally by invading Nuclear armed Pakistan. Pakistanis won't go down without a fight, if its territorial integrity is threatened, it's first Nuclear target is likely to be India, its second the USA. Time to start building your bunkers WWIII here we come.

Pakistan has always been a country with extreme ideologies and practicing hardcore terrorism for years. Just that western countries turned a blind eye to it. After 9/11 instead of intensifying their scrutiny they were funding Pakistan which was shocking. India has suffered so much at the hands of state sponsored terrorism from Pakistan. Finally articles like this will wake up other countries to the realities.

Pakistan has always been a country with extreme ideologies and practicing hardcore terrorism for years. Just that western countries turned a blind eye to it. After 9/11 instead of intensifying their scrutiny they were funding Pakistan which was shocking. India has suffered so much at the hands of state sponsored terrorism from Pakistan. Finally articles like this will wake up other countries to the realities.