From Seneca Falls to … Sarah Palin?

After reading some of these biased post in favor of Obama. I wonder if Marrian Webster would consider changing the spelling of DEMS to Dims. They don't appear very bright, do they?

OBAMA loses . . . here he is the day after the general election:

http://www.theweek.com/article/index/88868/3/3/Obama_in_the_asylum

Davole and sharenews: You both are clearly intelligent. Your posts are informative, challenging and well thought-out. Floridave, you are just plain entertaining. You've made me laugh a lot and cry once (your post about losing your dad was incredibly touching.)

I suppose everyone has reasons for voting the way they do. As for me and my house, we are voting the law of our conscience. Our collective conscience agrees that ripping babies from a mother's womb is incomprehensible, but letting them die once they've been born due to a botched abortion is beyond heinous. IF Obama is a Christian, as he claims, he could not possibly believe this practice is okay (as evidenced by his voting record). If he is not a Christian... he's....well, you can do the math. Now, for the seemingly inevitable Democrat argument... What about the lives of the men and women who have died in Iraq/Afghanistan? My response is this: The men and women who have died in the service to our country were allowed to be born and lived and laughed and then died as heroes. How many babies who have been aborted could have been heroes? How many would have gladly sacrificed their lives in the service of their country if they had been given their choice? Isn't 50,000,000 dead babies enough? At least McCain and Palin have the strength of character to stand up for what they believe. That, among other things, is why they will be getting our (and many people we know) votes.

Davole, sharenews and Floridave, whatever YOUR reasons, thanks for representing. You rock!

I just dont believe the hype. pleased dont insult my intelligence as a womena dn ultimately as ahuman being that I would vote for a woman who wants to take women back fifty years and force girls to have babies even int he case of incest of rape. I am also a woman of faith but I dont go into libraries and try to take out bookd taht I find offensive. If we continue on this road of religious fundamentalism we wont be so different from the taliban.
And it is an embarrassment in a nation with so much wealth, opportunity , and an amazing constitution that we
could even consider electing a person like her. She is no Susan B. Anthony. This obsession by the religious
right to christianize the world is clearly part of her agenda. i have worked in low income communities for a long time and I am sorry but Sara Palin is not in touch with reality. We are a pluralistic society that says each person has the right to pursue life, liberty and happiness...Does Sara Palin believe that? I dont think so ..not based on her religious views and her actions. we need someone in office who is going to build bridges of peace and community and oneness..not division and the sinners verys the saved..its very primitive and we need someone who can stand on the world stage with an open mind and heart. I am sorry.but her mind does not seem very open and either does her heart. what women would promote pregnancy after a rape? Where is her compassion? That really disgusts me and most women I know. Lets not forget that in small towns like Wasilla alcoholism, incest, and domestic are way up their . I hope that most women and voters are smart enough to see beneath this primitive ideology. this is the 21st century...Could we wake up and realize there is such a thing as evolution. It is a fact and its happening right now. Wake up america and restore its greatness. Vote for a candidate who accepts all people. And by the way Jesu lived his life as a jew and loved prostitutes to get over your moral judgement. We are all one and we are born in love and are here to serve and to love...And if you cant love a certain person than you dont know God..so dont talk to me about God and sin when all you can do is judge...and hate. God is love period...so stop hating and start loving.

Just curious, has anyone heard anything in particular about Palin's oldest son Track involving the reason that he went to military school and "Something else for the past 2 years"? I am not posting what I heard and read as I do not know if it is true.

I am not jumping on this young man but I would like to know if what I am hearing is true.

Senator McCain???s history has shown us a cornucopia of flip-flops, much of which he calls being a ???Maverick??? but which have actually always been just trying to adjust for advantage. As seen before and after the Keating scandal, before and after running for president in 2000, before and after having his legs cut out from under him (which he claimed was the result of Bush???s dirty politics), before and after committing his strong support to Bush in 2004, and now before and after running for president again and then throughout this current campaign relating to most everything and so vividly in the current financial crisis. For the moment put aside Sarah Palin???s incompetence and gross dishonesty and just ask how can someone, John McCain, who is so out of touch and willing to change so frequently, at a moments notice, ever be trusted to resolve the problems, many of which were caused by the policies he so strongly supported? First he has been a strong advocate of deregulation and now he says more regulation is absolutely necessary. Then he was against any bailouts and within one day switched to say they were really needed now. He was strongly committed to continuing with the Bush-Cheney policies and now says that he and Palin are agents of change. He has always supported tax cuts for the wealthy and open markets favoring Special Interests and a select few and just today he is calling for stimulating the economy and addressing the problems by providing the needed support and protection for the middle class, who he has simply neglected in the past and instead had inferred benefit would ???trickle down??? (what ???trickled down??? was the costs as the big money got bailed out). He offers to appoint a commission and faults Obama for wanting to take the time to determine more aggressive and direct action. What he says, he quickly retracts or simply offers to explain what he really meant. Just a week ago he was so strongly touting that the economy had strong fundamentals, inferring it was ready to recover, and then changed that to mean he had faith in the American worker, as if they could turn things around on their own. The truth is he doesn???t have a clue, talks without thinking, changes after consulting with others, often just copies what Obama says and, as Joe Biden put it; he is completely out of touch. He really wants badly to be president before he retires and then desperately chose Sarah because he thought she would be aggressive and flashy when campaigning but what of anything does any of that do for the American people?

We women do ourselves a disservice by supporting Palin, a pretty skimpy choice, simply because she is female. This is no example to set for our daughters (or sons).

"Hey ladies - you too can move up in the ranks of the Republican Party! All you have to do is toe the party line, give birth to your rapist's baby and shut up about this whole 'women's rights' thing. "

You think Palin represents the American Woman? I won't support a woman who doesn't believe in equal pay for equal work.

But really now. In the past weeks Palin has shown us that there's no underlying substance in her character, background or intelligence. She does NOT represent me as a woman or as an American.

Palin panders to the Old Boys network to gain personal power while she's willing to hang the rest of us out to dry.

my question to you sharenews is what do you consider a "mover and a shaker?" that's very vague and general, which of course is consistent with the campaign that mccain and palin have run so far. here's something that you should read, and then maybe you can more accurately define what type of mover and shaker she is.

http://www.andrys.com/palin-kilkenny.html

Again, as we have been so many times, we are hit between the eyes with the reality of our mistakes ??? but will we ever learn from them? Today???s shocking news reminds us that Pakistan is and has continually been a very serious problem and a threat to our interests. There would seem to be clear and rational evidence that those who advocated attacking Iraq was the wrong action for the wrong reasons, only benefit for Special Interests and a select few, were absolutely correct. Not advocating that we should have attacked Pakistan but any objective viewer would be hard pressed not to see that we would have been far better off concentrating our resources on Afghanistan and pressuring Pakistan to rid the area of Taliban and al Qaeda. Now that is simply a task we still have to do and is being left for the next president.

Then there is the current financial crisis here at home (with global impact) with the humongous tax payer sponsored bailout, simply caused and allowed by unchecked and uncontrolled greed. Even with the costly bailout it is unclear how much further the crisis and the drastically negative impact on our economy will go. The government is now committed to the heavy costs, necessitated only because the attitude all along has been for large scale deregulation in encouraging open markets and benefiting mainly Special Interests and a select few. The bailout itself again costs the average American while it really saves the big money people and may still leave us exposed to dire states. Once more it is a problem that is being left to the next president.

Will we ever learn from our mistakes? I don???t support the need for a big brother or for a large intrusive style government but it seems very obvious that a government offering more protection for the people and real checks and balances on the powerful is desperately needed; government is actually suppose to do for the people that which they can???t do for themselves, instead of just rationalizing benefiting a select few. This presidential election is our chance to prove we have learned from our mistakes by not electing someone who has supported these passed failed policies, by not electing someone who is committed to continue with more of the same, by not electing someone who again would be just a puppet for Special Interests and a select few, by not electing someone who offers just change rhetoric, much as GWBush did, but rather by electing someone who has the intellect and commitment to offer real change that benefits all of the people. Whatever anyone???s biases, prejudices and emotional attachments tell them, the reality is that Obama-Biden fills the bill and McCain-Palin does not.

Palin is not for women. She's for Palin. There is not one thing on her record to show she has done anything for women, and insisting rape victims pay $1000 for a rape testing kit shows she is also mean-spirited. If a man took that position, women would be horrified. How many bosses would hire a person with Palin's record of lying about her so-called accomplishments? Palin's "reforms" are all Palin-promotion actions -- a real reformer would have taken on Sen. Stevens.

great arguments newswkdickg, that is how you make a point! to piggyback on that, contrary to what the republicans are saying, obama does not want to raise everyone's taxes. in fact, he wants to lower taxes for people who make less than $250,000, which make up about 95% of the population. he also wants to lower taxes for small businesses. also, everyone thinks his health care plan will raise taxes - wrong. his health care plan lowers the costs of health care for workers AND businesses. this will make health care affordable to everyone, not just people who have good jobs for businesses that make a lot of money. his health care plan also creates jobs by lowering the costs for businesses so that they can hire more people to work. yes, under his administration, the government will get bigger. but considering that all the money in our country is tied up in 5% of the population, which is the same people who control all the big businesses, how is that bad? because it takes a little bit of money out of their pockets and distributes it to a few more people - people who really need it? anybody who thinks our economy has strong fundamentals is far away from the real america. the america where people have to go to work everyday and have to look at their paycheck and their bills and have to budget to keep a roof over their families heads. someone with 7 houses who says that our economy has strong fundamentals is a far cry from that, and if you don't realize that then you must be just like mccain.

"sportlock" wrote:

"NOW THE OTHER SIDE>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

1. Obama wants women to have the right too KILL an INNOCENT child, merely because they are a incovenience.

Palin believes you shouldn't f*ck your family members and in stiffer penalties for rape.

2. How does this affect womens rights as you stated above? Just filling in blanks or telling lies?

3. Again, how does this affect the rights of woman? And why does this bother you? What are you afraid of?"

Could I please ask for some insight into how you would validate these statements in factual reality, WITHOUT inserting your personal religious beliefs, and your personal ideals? Thus far, you don't. Can i suggest you stop being so judgmental and self-righteous and think about that possibility that people's personal decisions are sometimes beyond the scope of your personal thoughts? And perhaps have you considered that your personal opinion isn't the same thing as fact, and that your religion-centered views are NOT applicable to everyone?

I know this is a repeat, but I am amazed at how many obama supporters do not get it. What really surprises me, is that most of you know this is a fact and yet you defend his decision, I do not know what is more scary, obama or the people who agree with him.

It is amazing how the Obama supporters keep bring-up the same ole, same ole, she is a liar, she is terrible, she is horrible. And yet, they forget that Obama was the only senator, the only one to vote against (NO) on an important piece of legislation created to help the most innocent and vulnerable in our country, infants in need of urgent medical care.

We are talking about living, breathing babies, the result of botched abortions, who are OUTSIDE of the mother. Breathing on their own. Without this bill, those performing the abortions were strangling, smothering, and breaking the necks of these infants.

Why do you think the government had to step in and write this bill. They had nothing better to do with their time with all of the other issues this country is facing ??? Even pro-abortion legislators voted, Yes except Obama !!! That is a scary, dangerous character flaw, which speaks volumes to those who take the time to listen.

For those few obama supporters who do not know about this issue, ask your fellow obama team members, I am sure they will help bring you up to speed.

Dems want to debate issues and have a serious conversation. Republicans just seem to resort to a lot of name-calling. I would seriously like to know what McCain/Palin are going to do to fix the economy? Obama has been clear on the next step - and I like how he pulled in Paul Volcker and others for a serious discussion this week. I really do think McCain is out of touch - he still believes the fundamentals of the economy are sound (they probably are for him) - and his 26 year track history of de-regulation is solid - and horrific.
If you don't agree with me - that's fine - but leave the personal insults and the CAPS out of your response - it just reinforces my point when you behave that way.