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  • Posted By: 1easylay @ 09/16/2008 10:45:50 AM

    Thanks. Not nearly as terrible as the wrath that would be brough on by Palin McSame.

    People are not intimidated by her, they're scared of her cause she's Bush with a vag_na.

    She don't need fancy facts and figures, she goes by gut instinct, like Bush and look where that got us. She has a degree in journalism for pete's sake.

    She ambitious, tall and pretty. So is Julia Roberts. Let's make her President!!!!

    • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 09/16/2008 5:10:36 PM

      Actually, the body part being exploited here is the uterus. She's a mom, and if you buy the apple pie/mom myth, she's right there. Look, America, we have Daddy and Mommy in the White House, a return to old fashioned family values.

      Let's face it - McCain didn't have the luxury of picking a female candidate smarther than he is, she might just show him up. That narrowed the field considerably.

      If they wanted a republican conservative woman who, instead of a uterus, has a brain and a resume, McCain could have chosen someone like Senator Elizabeth Dole - who better to answer the call at 3 am than the former head of the Red Cross? The far right likes her just fine.

      He chose the caricature instead, because the appeal is motherhood, hoping to appeal to all who are mothers, and all who have one.

      This is one mother who doesn't buy any of it.

  • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 2:19:40 PM

    Ummm China has us beat on polution and they have no fixes for it in their plans. So far I haven't heard any concrete solutions from either party with one exception: Obama plans to make health-care so affordable anyone can have it. Nice idea but it won't work. Unfortunately just because it's affordable doesn't mean people will buy it. Many will buy cigarettes and alcohol or anything else before health care because they feel that they will be provided for somehow. And they are correct they can show up in any ER and get care under current law. It's expensive and very inefficient. They will be charged but if they don't pay there is little that can be done and they cannot be turned away for outstanding bills. Right now the very poor and very wealthy in the US get great health care. The middle class not only gets sub-par health care and insurance, they foot the bill for those on welfare through taxes. I wish my health care plan was as generous as my welfare patients.

    • Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 09/16/2008 2:29:08 PM

      So, if you can afford private health insurance, and then take out private health insurance you then take some of the burden off of the public health system. A win, win situation.
      And yes China does pollute a whole lot more than the USA. But as a developed nation the US wins hands down. If the USA comes up with solutions to fix its dependance on oil and then sell it to the rest of the world you can then start to claw back some of that deficit.
      All I ask is people vote for the TEAM rather than the PERSON. The republican TEAM has done a disgraceful job both domestically and internationally. Who will McCain's team be?? Many of Bush's team I suspect.

      • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 2:40:40 PM

        Are you from the US???? Just because I take out private health insurance doesn't mean I don't still pay for those who choose to be unemployed. And why should I work for a living and have worse insurance that I pay fore than someone who chooses not to work? And yes for many it is a career choice, for some an unfortunate necessity since the cost of taking out private insurance(which isn't as good as welfare) is so high they are better off not working. It's a screwed up system that has to change, but Hillary was right on this one, you have to mandate participation in a national health care plan otherwise those who choose not to participate will burden us all.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 09/16/2008 5:04:46 PM

          Ok so you are like Loriw,

          Our national unemployment is up because people are just lazy and do not want to work. It is there fault that the company that they worked for closed down. It is there fault that the majority of the major corporations outsource their manufacturing jobs to China, the Philipines, Mexico and India.

          YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!

        • Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 09/16/2008 2:51:37 PM

          No, I am not from the US. So, I will admit that my grasp of your system may be wrong. Feel free to inform me of your situation. I am from Australia where we have a "Socialist" medicare system. (That makes me laugh, "Socialist") We have two optiions. 1. pay a monthly premium and receive discounts on optical, chiropractic, many many different remedial sources of care. And in the advent of an emmergency I use a private hospital where I receive care in comfort. I have private health insurance because I can afford it. I take stress off of the public sector. And the Company I pay my premiums to makes money. Much like the companies in the USA.
          If I didn't have private healthcare I would still get good care in the public system. However I pay more for remedial care and I have to wait for operations that are of a non critical nature.
          I think the main thing to realise that yes their are people that are lazy, but there are also people who are unfortunate. And not in their situation because they want to be.
          There is nothing wrong with charity. Until people stop being greedy there will always be problems in society.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 2:38:25 PM

    Palin???s pastor, Larry Kroon, introduced Brickner on Aug. 17, according to a transcript of the sermon on the church???s website.

    ???He???s a leader of Jews for Jesus, a ministry that is out on the leading edge in a pressing, demanding area of witnessing and evangelism,??? Kroon said.

    Brickner then explained that Jesus and his disciples were themselves Jewish.

    ???The Jewish community, in particular, has a difficult time understanding this reality,??? he said.
    Brickner???s mission has drawn wide criticism from the organized Jewish community, and the Anti-Defamation League accused them in a report of ???targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception.???

    Brickner also described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

    • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 09/16/2008 5:01:11 PM

      I heard this, funny McCain supporters have absolutely no problem with this type of crazy azz rants but that Wright. Now he is just anti-American and hateful.

      If Chelsea or one of Obama's daughters (if they were old enought) came up pregnant, boy all you would hear and read is how lacking in family values.the Obamas or Clintons were and that they were just examples of how Godless Democrats/liberals were. Holyroller, Rush The Junkie and their deciples on these boards would have a field day calling them all kinds of sluts and other horrible names. You would not be reading any sympathetic posts about leave her children alone. Where are the Church Nazis and Christian Reich why aren't they out there yelling about the immorality of our nation's misguided youth.

      YET THERE IS ONLY SILENCE, UNDERSTANDING AND SUPPORT! HYPOCRITES

      Imagine the outrage on these board if anyone who ever shook Obama's hand refused to cooperatate with an official government investigation. They wanted to crusifiy Obama for his "relationship" with that "Syrian" Rezko.

      I am really really impressed with their newly found tolerance. HYPOCRITES!

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 5:00:22 PM

    Pastor Ed Kalnin, the senior pastor of Palin???s former Pentecostal church, has also come under fire for his comments. In 2004, he told church members if they voted for John Kerry for president, they wouldn???t get into heaven. He told them, ???I question your salvation.???

    Palin now attends the Wasilla Bible Church. She was there on August 17, just days before entering the national spotlight. David Brickner, the founder of Jews for Jesus, was a speaker. He told congregants that terrorist attacks on Israel were God???s ???judgment??? of Jews who haven???t embraced Christianity. Brickner said, ???Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. When a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment ??? you can???t miss it.???

  • Posted By: RiversideWarrior @ 09/16/2008 3:40:46 PM

    It is 'God's Will' that McCain/Palin can be elected so that the end times of the Apocalypse and Armageddon can begin so that we can all be rapturously carried away in mushroom clouds to heaven whether we want to be along for the ride or not.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 3:55:39 PM

      can you say CRAZY!!!!

  • Posted By: cowen123456 @ 09/16/2008 1:55:59 PM

    wow, The ultra left liberals are just completely clueless as to why american voters are flocking to Mccain Palin. This explains why GOP candidates often win general elections.

    Get a clue, relate, connect and be open-minded then you'll understand americans.

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 2:10:57 PM

      Wow Cowen, Sarah Palin sat in her church and listen to her Pastor say anti-Jewish comments. Please tell me why should we not jump on this situation wiht Sarah Palin.

  • Posted By: ArJay5000 @ 09/16/2008 2:05:56 PM

    I cant wait for the day that the USA starts to vote based on policy and substance of the TEAM that will govern instead of by voting in a popularity contest of individuals. Only then will we see action taken on issues that matter.
    The fact that the USA contributes to more polution than any other country. That the USA uses more oil than any other nation. That the USA has one of the most unaffordable healthcare systems. ALL THESE ISSUES MATTER no matter what political party you follow. Who talks about the problems and offers solutions. Bush and his TEAM, THE REPUBLICANS certainly havn't had any solutions. Research who has the solutions, who has the policies that matter. Then vote. The world will thank you.
    Obama / Biden. They can deliver. Not a War Vet who admits he has no grasp of the economy and a "Hockey Mum" who has no policy answers.
    God HELP America and the planet.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:31:09 PM

    Sarah Palin's Church: "Terrorism Against Jews is God's Judgment"

    Yes, Sarah Palin sat in a church where this message was given.

    • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 1:43:38 PM

      Oh So What! This is the same argument Republicans made against Obama with regard to Rev Wright. Barack Obama sat in a church where racist comments were made, it doesn't make him a racist. I sit in a catholic church every week even though I disagree with some of their tenants (yes we have minds of our own and we don't all believe the same things on specific issues). There are few people who agree 100% with what their church states all the time. If you hold a person responsible for anything that is spoken by anyone within a group they belong no one will be above blame.

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:54:52 PM

        Yes but this changed the dynamics of the election. People started to say that Obama does not have the same values as the white, blue-collar workers.. Republicans jumped on this from day one. Now lets see when it happens to Sarah Palin and lets see what the Republicans have to say.

        • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 1:58:47 PM

          They'll just say it's "tit-for-tat" And most people will see it that way too. Better to find out what she believes because that's the important issue and could be the most interesting.

          • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 2:03:11 PM

            I still think that the Dems should bring this up because this would be a cloud around Sarah Palin and would keep the McCain camp on the deffense.

  • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 2:00:17 PM

    Ok, cowen123456 why do you think voters are flocking to McCain-Palin?

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/16/2008 12:24:13 PM



    (Continued from my post above)

    Part 3 of 3

    SAMPLING OF ENDORSERS OF OBAMA:

    What triggers radicals, dictators, terrorist groups, et al, to endorse Barack Obama? He may denounce such endorsers, but the fact still remains they totally support him. . .WHY?

    * HAMAS (terrorist org):
    http://www.cfr.org/publication/8968
    http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.printable&pageId=64097

    * COMMUNIST PARTY OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA (CPUSA) - (Marxist-Leninist political party in the United States) http://www.aim.org/aim-column/communist-party-backs-obama/

    * THE NEW BLACK PANTHERS (anti-Semitic black supremacist party)
    http://bigheaddc.com/2008/03/19/new-black-panther-party-endorses-obama/

    * FIDEL CASTRO (former Cuban President / Dictator) - Endorsed Obama
    http://www.rpof.org/article.php?id=382

    * MUAMMAR GADDAFI (Libyan political leader)
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pFvWqEwq2Yw

    * KIM JONG-IL (NORTH KOREA) http://freekorea.us/2008/06/22/obama-gets-another-unwanted-endorsement/

    * HUGO CHAVEZ (Venezuelan dictator) - Richardson gets another foreign endorsement for Obama: http://hotair.com/archives/2008/04/28/video-richardson-gets-another-foreign-endorsement-for-obama/

    * CHARLES BARRON - (former Black Panther) - New York City Councilman (http://www.nypost.com/seven/11082007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamas_bad_news_buddies_862967.htm

    * DONNIE MCCLURKIN (ex-gay gospel singer who has claimed that gays are trying to kill our children) http://www.nypost.com/seven/11082007/postopinion/opedcolumnists/obamas_bad_news_buddies_862967.htm

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/16/2008 1:43:19 PM



      WOODS FUNDs RADICAL CLIENTS:

      Clients OBAMA AND BILL AYERS while serving as directors on the board of Woods Fund back in the ???90s:

      Part 1 of 2

      Setting aside Obamas relationship with Bill Ayer (unrepentant Washington D.C terrorist), the BOARD which they served together deserves additional SCRUTINY. And, in fact, the Woods Funds investments appear to be quite problematic for Obama:

      WOODS FUND RADICAL-BASED CLIENTS:

      Arab American Action Network (AAAN): Supports EXPANDED RIGHTS FOR ILLEGAL ALIENS [and was] founded by ANTI-ISRAEL professor RASHID KHALIDI, former director of the PLO press agency and onetime moderator of PLO advisory committee.

      AAAN views the United States as a nation wherein Arab citizens are routinely maltreated. To remedy this perceived societal injustice, the organization aims to CHALLENGE GOVERNMENT POLICIES that violate the civil, political and human rights of the Arab American and Arab immigrant community. Among these policies are DETENTIONS, DEPORTATIONS AND OTHER ATTACKS ON IMMIGRANTS that result from HOMELAND SECURITY [measures].

      AAANs hostile view of the Jewish state is further manifest in the organizations reference to Israels creation in 1948 as Al Nakba (THE CATASTROPHE)

      Among the current luminaries of AAANs staff are: (a) Vice President Ali Abunimah, who maintains the website ElectroicIntifada.com and is a Board member of the Sabeel Ecumenical Liberation Theology Center; and (b) Executive Director Hatem Abudayyeh, who has CONDEMNED THE ISRAELI GOVERNMENT and its military killing machine.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *
      American Friends Service Committee (AFSC): a Radical Quaker organization that supports Americas unilateral disarmament [and that backed] the Vietnamese Communists, Pol Pot, Fidel Castro, and the PLO.

      In fact, AFSC recently formed a partnership with MEChA. MEChA is one of several groups that intend to RECLAIM AZTLÁN (the southwestern PORTION OF THE UNITED STATES):

      We are a Chicana and Chicano student movement directly linked to Aztlán. As Chicanas and Chicanos of Aztlán, we are a nationalist movement of Indigenous Gente that LAY CLAIM TO THE LAND THAT IS OURS by birthright. As a nationalist movement we seek to free our people from the exploitation of an oppressive society that occupies our land.

      (Continued in my post below - Woods Fund Radical Client)

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/16/2008 1:42:04 PM


      (Continued from my post above - Woods Fund Radical Clients)


      Part 2 of 2

      Put simply, MEChAs mission is straightforward: To OVERTHROW the United States Government and establish a new form of government.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      MIDWEST ACADEMY: [A] training organization that TEACHES RADICAL ACTIVISTS TACTICS of direct action, targeting, CONFRONTATION, and INTIMIDATION.

      In January 2004 [founder] Heather Booth was featured at the National Conference on Organized Resistance at American University in Washington, D.C. This radical conference featured speakers on such topics as AN ANALYSIS OF POLITICALLY MOTIVATED PROPERTY DESTRUCTION AS A LEGITIMATE TACTIC. Booth participated in a panel discussion with former BLACK PANTHER PARTY leader Elaine Brown and Cathy Wilkerson, who had been Editor of the SDS magazine New Left Notes and a member of the domestic terrorist RADICAL GROUP THE WEATHERMEN.

      * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

      ACORN: A liberal ACTIVIST GROUP, notorious for voter REGISTRATION FRAUD and even PAYING FOR VOTES using crack COCAINE.

      Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), ACORN pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party.

      ACORN and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, DEAD voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained ACORNs practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.

      Given this history, it is not surprising that ACORN is so HOSTILE TO VOTER IDENTIFICATION laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls.

      http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-problematic-directorship-woods.html

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:42:54 PM

    Ok, now Sarah Palin sat in a Church and heard her pastor David Brickner say anti-Jewish comments. Once this comes out to mainstream media, I want to hear what the Mccain supporters have to say.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:38:11 PM

    The Politico's Ben Smith reports that only two weeks ago, Palin attended her local church to hear Jews for Jesus executive director David Brickner excoriate Jews for not accepting Him as their Lord and saviour:

    Brickner's mission has drawn wide criticism from the organised Jewish community, and the Anti-Defamation League accused them in a report of "targeting Jews for conversion with subterfuge and deception".

    Brickner ... described terrorist attacks on Israelis as God's "judgment of unbelief" of Jews who haven't embraced Christianity.

    "Judgment is very real and we see it played out on the pages of the newspapers and on the television. It's very real. When [Brickner's son] was in Jerusalem he was there to witness some of that judgment, some of that conflict, when a Palestinian from East Jerusalem took a bulldozer and went plowing through a score of cars, killing numbers of people. Judgment - you can't miss it."

    This is the truth.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:36:36 PM

    The quote about Iraq is wrong. I do apologize about that. the 4000 years is the truth. The Iraq isn't. I'm sorry.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:08:24 PM

    These are actual quotes from Sarah Palin:

    On oil exploration and drilling in the ANWR:

    God made dinosaurs 4,000 years ago as ultimately flawed creatures, lizards of Satan really, so when they died and became petroleum products we, made in his perfect image, could use them in our pickup trucks, snow machines and fishing boats.

    Now, as to the ANWR, Todd and I often enjoying caribou hunting and one year we shot up a herd big time, I mean I personally slaughtered around 40 of them with my new, at the time, custom Austri an hunting rifle. And guess what? That caribou herd is still around and even bigger than ever. Caribou herds actually need culling, be it by rifles or wolves, or Exxon-Mobil oil rigs, they do just great!

    On Alaskans serving overseas in Iraq:

    Well, God bless them, and I mean God and Jesus because without Jesus we'd be Muslims too or Jewish, which would be a little better because of the superior Israeli Air Force

    • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 1:12:09 PM

      Could you include the references for these quotes? I'd like to read more and also view the context. When the press was bashing Rev Wright I found it helpful and illuminating to read the entire speech rather than just the soundbites (which often had a different impact on me when seen out of context)

      • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:24:22 PM

        wiki.answers.com/Q/Did_Sarah_Palin_really_say_that_dinosaurs_existed_4000_years_ago -

  • Posted By: medchic @ 09/16/2008 1:21:59 PM

    I think people have a unrealistic idea of the ability of VP of the US to overturn Roe V Wade, especially with a Democratic Congress in power. Especially with a President who is ambivalent about the issue (as seen by his flip flopping on it)

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:19:22 PM

    "Anybody who believes that the Republicans, whoever they are, can fix the mess they created
    probably believes that the iceberg could have saved the Titanic."
    --Hillary Clinton

  • Posted By: melbee1971 @ 09/16/2008 8:29:21 AM

    I'm a middle class woman who has some investments with Merril Lynch. Well, it was interesting to read that Merril Lynch is one of McCain's biggest supporters financially. If our financial "leaders" weren't so busy buying off politicians like John McCain we might not be in such a financial crisis.

    Lipstick on a pig? Who cares? Jobs, education, the economy, and financial responsibility for those who "work" with Congress. These are the issues that we need to be talking about. It is INFURIATING to see that my failing investment plan is paying for John McCain and his "expenses." How ridiculous does this situation have to get before voters ask and receive some real answers?

    • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 12:25:23 PM

      sharenews gave you a comment from willnotvoteobama an guess what, that is also sharenews. You are right......Most big bank corporations were putting money into McCain's pockets because McCain and the Republican Party does not believe in regulations. They believe in Deregulation. McCain said so himself. This is how phony morgages came about and this is why many middle class Americans are about to loose their life savings. Sharenews is a right winger who will tell you any lies to get you to vote for McCain, but remember that McCain was a part of the S&L scandal. Guess what that was about.....It was to promote less regulations and promote Deregulation. You see it almost cost McCain his career. Don't let him make you loose yours.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/16/2008 1:02:12 PM

        THE TRUTH IS OUT THERE THE REAL REASON THAT HILARY WAS NOT PICKED BY OBAMA ! BACK IN 92 SHE WAS INVOLVED IN THE WHITEWATER S&L SCANDLE AND OBAMA DID NOT WANT A BUNCH OF FOLKS POKING AROUND BECAUSE OF HER BECAUSE IT SEEMS HE HAS SOMETHING TO HIDE ! IT WILL COME OUT BEFOR NOV 4 BET ON IT!

        • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/16/2008 1:15:08 PM

          You said the same thing about Larry Sinclair and now Larry is in jail for fraud. What else will you say. You are not winning.

      • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/16/2008 12:54:07 PM

        YEAH RIGHT YOU HAVE A COMPUTER SO GOOGLE CLINTON'S S&L SCANDAL AND SEE WHERE IT ALL STARTED IT WAS THE DEMOCRAPS WHO CAUSED DE-REGULATION

    • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/16/2008 9:13:29 AM


      In response to your post I refer you to this blog below: Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/16/2008 07:19:57

    • Posted By: varacefan @ 09/16/2008 8:36:40 AM

      Was Freddie Mack and Fannie Mae not large supporters of Obama? Who are you kidding??

  • Posted By: RiversideWarrior @ 09/16/2008 1:14:58 PM

    A question I have is why Hillary is not more actively involved in the campaign, especially as a counter to Palin? She and Biden working together would do a great job exposing Palin for what she is, a former hick-town mayor and governor of a small state (tiny Hawaii has twice as many people as Alaska) with a large redneck constituency. Is Obama not letting HRC get involved? (big mistake) Or is it Hillary being lukewarm because she wants Obama to fail (unforgiveable mistake)?

  • Posted By: 1easylay @ 09/16/2008 12:51:31 PM

    McSame was endorsed by Depends, Polident, Poligrip, Fleets, Sitz Bath, Epsom Salts, suppositories, or in his case, Tylenol, American Cane Association, American Cancer Society (he had it 4 times, but he's healthy as an ox) Hoveround, Craftmatic Adjustable Beds, Geritol and you get it.

    Let'e gets someone with out early onset dementia in control. Bush was bad enough.

    • Posted By: willnotvoteobama @ 09/16/2008 1:12:43 PM

      OBAMA HAS BEEN ENDORSED BY ASTROGLIDE AND FLEET ENEMA'S AND HAS FULL SUPPORT OF THE COCAINE CARTELS AND THE GAY MENS GROUPS OF CHICAGO NOT TO MENTION THE RAINBOW CLUB OF THE SOUTHSIDE NOT TO BE CONFUSSED WITH THE RAINBOW COILITION! WITH A BIG HELL YEAH FROM CRACKHEADS ARE PEOPLE TOO ! GROUPS

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