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  • Posted By: champateam @ 09/15/2008 3:54:46 PM

    Listen, I am a woman and am not about to vote for ANYONE, man, woman, cat, or dog, without knowing more about that person. Sara Palin is still a blank page to me, and as days go by, more of a cloud surrounds her with what she has been up to in Alaska. I expect the same from any candidate, and just because she is a woman does NOT mean she gets a free pass from me. She is already starting to raise more and more questions. Who else would get a pass if they surrounded themselves with Public Officians in office who were high school chums...or one who was a Receptionist before getting hired by Sara? How many minorities in her cabinet? NONE!!!

    Many women are going absolutely braindead just because there is a woman VP. Even if they dig up proven misbehavior, you have a bunch of dumb women (I am a women so don't come at me with that crap) who are not going to use their heads. For those that do, I am proud of you. We are not all following the crowd.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:01:49 PM

      Your first four sentences would still make sense if you changed Sarah Palin to Barack Obama, he to she, her to him, Alaska to Chicago, and woman to black man. Obama should have engaged McCain in town hall meetings, should have welcomed more debates with Hillary, and absolutely should have put Hillary on the ticket with him.

      • Posted By: gigglinggirl @ 09/15/2008 5:17:02 PM

        You are right about two points 1)You should know as much as possible about the person you are voting for; and 2)Obama should have put Hillary on the ticket. If he had, Sarah would be back in Alaska shooting moose and still trying to get her former brother-in-law canned. As for the town hall meetings, it's no wonder why McCain likes town meetings - he doesn't know how to use a computer! He's a great guy, and an American patriot, but his time has passed. His ideas and perspectives and grounded in the past. I'm not sure Obama is perfect, but if McCain could have inspired people like Obama has, he would have done it already.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 5:25:30 PM

          As someone new to the national scene, Obama needs to do a lot more than inspire us. He needs to get into the details of his implementation plans. He is much too scripted. I'm an undecided voter. We may not like McCain, but we know him. Obama is still largely unknown, and during the summer he seemed more interested in creating sensationalism (Europe, MIle HIgh Stadium) than substance

  • Posted By: robforrams @ 09/15/2008 3:00:24 PM

    Geraldine Ferraro speaks the truth, and the libs are now attacking her, one of their own. Just shows you how hypocritcal they are.

    • Posted By: dan989 @ 09/15/2008 3:33:15 PM

      Speaks what truth? Ferraro apparently wants to be treated differently because she is a woman. She wants soft ball questions as opposed to legitimate inquiry on the experince and background necessary to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Sounds like sexism in reverse to me.

      • Posted By: kategus @ 09/15/2008 3:58:59 PM

        She wants soft ball questions as opposed to legitimate inquiry on the experince and background necessary to be a heartbeat away from the Presidency. Sounds like sexism in reverse to me.
        Where then do the male candidates stand up to this characterization. Neither presidential candidates qualify if this is the criteria. Candidates run for office for the power it has not because they want to improve your life and our country. They all promise everything and deliver nothing.

        • Posted By: dan989 @ 09/15/2008 4:12:37 PM

          I am not sure you got my point. Man or Woman, the inquiry should be the same. Questions about foreign policy expereince are just as legtimate to a woman as they are to a man. If Sarah Palin were a man with the same background, I would be asking the same questions. That's my point.

          • Posted By: stematwork @ 09/15/2008 5:08:44 PM

            other than O'Reilly (who's an opinion monger, not a journalist) can anyone point to all the tough questions that Obama has had to answer?
            remember, i'm not talking about rush, hannity, beck, o'reilly or any other opinionated loud mouth on the right...i'm talking about journalists that went after obama with "gotcha" questions and an ax to grind.

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 5:14:02 PM

              If Obama went on O'Reilly six months earlier (like Hillary did), had he agreed to more debates with Hillary, agreed to town hall meetings with McCain, we all would have got to know him better. Instead he has been on script.

  • Posted By: j1ggy @ 09/15/2008 4:00:39 PM

    What is different with this election versus 1984. The women who were brought by their fathers and mothers to see the historic event are the women who will be voting in the 2008 election plus 28 years. If a young girl ranging in age from 6 to 15 witnessed this historic event these same women are now 34 to 43 years of age. You must ask yourself, how do these women differ from the same women voting block of 1984. What are the paradigm and voting tendencies for these women? Will they be the agent of change which their fathers and mothers were not in 1984? Do these women get their inspiration to vote from their spouses or significant other or are they more independent and progressive? Does this demographic of women between 30 and 50 follow their traditonal wisdom or is their a contemporary female believe system which will mandate the glass ceiling be broken no matter what political party has the candidate? I fear if Palin does not get elected women will be another generation away from the White House. Obviously, conventional wisdom has HRC as not a viable candidate in 2016 if Obama wins the White House. If I was Obama, I would strike a deal now with HRC to shed Biden in 2012 and put her on the ticket in the next election. If Obama want to really lock this down strike the deal...insure the female vote for real change.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:09:26 PM

      You'd be surprised how many submissive women tell their husband they voted for one candidate when they in fact voted for the other

      • Posted By: gigglinggirl @ 09/15/2008 5:04:25 PM

        ha ha ha ha ha!!!!!!!! That was funny. I loved it. I'm sure it works in the other direction too, but that was a great point!

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:15:31 PM

      Unfortunately, if a week in politics is a year, four years is an aeon. By 2012 the democrats will have found another flavor of the month. No loyalty at all

  • Posted By: mschultz2k @ 09/15/2008 3:51:37 PM

    Wow..I think we need to cut these.."If Hillary was the VP nominee" answers out. The horse is out the barn. That has passed and it's not going to happen. What we need to focus on is NOW and how we can help get Democrats back in the White House. Ferraro obviously is still holding onto some animosity and if she has nothing to offer things as they stand now, then why speak? I didn't feel Charlie was being sexist. I think he was trying to answer the questions of Palin's qualifications as he would any male named without qualifications. Geraldine is still smarting from the dressing down she took during the election and is looking for a way to get back at Obama ticket for winning.





    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 3:58:41 PM

      Hillary should have been the VP nominee. If she were, Obama would win in a landslide and Sarah Palin would still be an little known Alaskan governor. The Obama campaing needs to show some humility.

      • Posted By: somebunny @ 09/15/2008 4:43:39 PM

        I completely agree with you and I am not a Democrat. But what if Hilary didn't want the VP nomination?

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:51:31 PM

          We will never know if she did or did not, becuase, despite what Obama had set since February, he never seriously considered her.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:03:18 PM

      Ferraro is not smarting, she is being candid. Obama made a possibly perilous error by not including Hillary on his ticket. The Obama campaing is smarting from this lapse in judgement.

  • Posted By: marcyf32 @ 09/15/2008 2:44:41 PM

    I cannot believe how many idiots I've heard say, with no evidence, that some journalist was "terribly sexist" for simply asking questions of Sarah Palin. Grow a brain. As Sarah Palin herself said, it doesn't do women any good to whine and expect some preferential treatment. It's really getting ridiculous and Geraldine Ferraro is a fool to repeat this nonsense, although I'm not one bit surprised.

    • Posted By: clsutopian @ 09/15/2008 2:59:49 PM

      Thank yhou Marcy, I totally agree with your assessment. Who cares what Geraldine thinks anyway. Try asking someone who can be objective for a change.

      • Posted By: somebunny @ 09/15/2008 4:47:52 PM

        Geraldine is saying that if he treats her that way, he should treat men that way - and vice versa - if he doesn't treat men that way, he shouldn't treat women that way. I'd love to see Charles Gibson be that tough and frank with Obama and McCain and Biden...but what are the chances of that?!?!? This is Geraldine's point!!!

  • Posted By: mikeys @ 09/15/2008 4:12:24 PM

    THANK YOU GERALDINE! HONEST, OPEN, NO BIAS, AND COMPLETELY CORRECT ABOUT HOW SARAH WAS TREATED ON ABC!

    • Posted By: sabretruth @ 09/15/2008 4:19:18 PM

      Ms. Ferraro's comments most certainly are colored with bias: The bias of seeing every criticism, everything that doesn't suit her as "sexism". She is debasing the dialog, both of gender issues and the broader debate of the election, and bringing it down to the most pathetic, sick level.

  • Posted By: Coztanzaforever @ 09/15/2008 4:10:58 PM

    Why can't she stop whining and quit with the, "It should be Hillary, she got screwed," crap. She needs to just change parties and go after Obama full throttle.

    Note to Ferraro, you're not important anymore.

    By the way, if you are sexist for criticizing or asking Sarah Palin tough questions, aren't you racist for asking Barack Obama tough questions? The press has made this election a TV show, "The Mavericks starring a re-reinvented John McCain and his sidekick Sarah Do What I Say Or You're Fired Palin vs "The Change Agents" starring Barack Obama and Joe Biden. Their 2 different channels, and the press is doing nothing to prove to the public what is going on behind the cameras.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:18:51 PM

      The press made the primary season the hope, change, unity, Obama show, so spare the whining. What comes around goes around

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:18:04 PM

      Obama has run a scripted campaign. He is little known on the national scene, so he should have THIRSTED for more debates with Hillary and town hall meetings with McCain. His ultimate act of arrogance was when he ignored HIllary for the VP pick. Hillary did get screwed

  • Posted By: Arob @ 09/15/2008 4:18:50 PM

    There are 3 times a many white female governors and senators than blacks so where is the racism compared to being sexist. Obama is the only black senator. So stop all the crying.

  • Posted By: rsjsteve @ 09/15/2008 3:33:11 PM

    "Every time a woman runs, women win." What a beautifully simple truth.

    • Posted By: RRuin @ 09/15/2008 4:14:42 PM

      Totally ridiculous. It's the person running that matters, their judgment and their beliefs not their gender.
      A woman like Palin who backed making rape victims pay for their rape kits and exams, who is anti choice is good for women because she happens to be one?
      That is simply ridiculous.

  • Posted By: mikeys @ 09/15/2008 4:11:48 PM

    THANK YOU GERALDINE! HONEST, OPEN, NO BIAS, AND COMPLETELY CORRECT ABOUT HOW SARAH WAS TREATED ON ABC!

  • Posted By: mikeys @ 09/15/2008 4:11:32 PM

    THANK YOU GERALDINE! HONEST, OPEN, NO BIAS, AND COMPLETELY CORRECT ABOUT HOW SARAH WAS TREATED ON ABC!

  • Posted By: MTR1973 @ 09/15/2008 3:05:21 PM

    We keep forgetting that the reason the media, in this case Mr. Gibson, is being so tough on Palin is because many members of the media and of the general public are still slackjawed that someone with so little experience, a controversial record in public service and so many pressing family demands was selected. There are plenty of us out here who believe that this choice was made solely to pander to disappointed Hillary supporters. The fact is, her positions scare the crap out of many of us, notwithstanding the fact that her record and her opinions/beliefs are not automatically in line with women voters. Give women some credit, and give the rest of us a break. We should scrutinize like crazy anyone who wants to hold public office, let alone second-in-command to the leadership of the free world. The bottom line is, I don't like Sarah Palin or her politics, and I don't care that she comes in the body of a woman.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/15/2008 4:05:25 PM

      Sarah Palin was not selected to replace Hillary, and Hillary was an incredibly strong candidate while Palin is a weak candidate. Selecting Palin did, however, draw attention to the fact the Obama made a grave error by not including Hillary on the ticket

  • Posted By: Butterball2 @ 09/15/2008 2:07:12 PM

    It is miy belief that Geraldine Ferraro is not a Democract and has consistently voted Reublican since she lost the election. She is a vengeful woman who whines and is stuck in the victim mentality mode. I beleive that she is a friend to Hillary Clinton and really doesn't believe in the Democratic platform. I would bet a thousand dollars that she will not vote for Barack Obama. It would be helpful to women if you found someone who could respond to women issues and how the two parties differ. Leave this has been wherever she has been since she ran for election. Women don't need her.

    • Posted By: kategus @ 09/15/2008 3:43:08 PM

      Lets face the facts. Most women don't care about womens issues. They vote for whomever their husbands vote. Not many men are going to vote for a woman because they are intimidated with the prospect that a woman would probably do a better job than a man. Who do you think makes men look good in their jobs?
      The women who doing the work and getting less pay. Lets face it all you women out there, we are not much better off than the women fifty years ago. Women work harder and have more work to do than any man out there.

  • Posted By: Mike519 @ 09/15/2008 3:40:37 PM

    So it's wrong to ask a VP candidate with at best very questionable, and at worst none at all, national security and foreign policy experience any questions relating to said subjects? These were all legitimate inquiries that would have been asked of any VP candidate, man or woman, who had Mrs. Palin's "qualifications". I echo Dan989's sentiments and say this smacks of reverse sexism.

  • Posted By: RRuin @ 09/15/2008 3:23:13 PM

    Gibson was sexist because he asked hard questions Palin clearly couldn't answer?
    Equality means taking the punches like the men, not hiding behind your skirt when it gets tough.
    If Palin was a male candidate and said seeing Russia from Alaska was foreign policy experience he'd never be picked, but laughed out of town.
    Ferraro sees sexism everywhere. She's wrong.

  • Posted By: visavisa40 @ 09/15/2008 3:08:00 PM

    Sorry to disagree, but women definitely need Geraldine Ferraro as well as Hillary Clinton--and Sarah Palin. These are all examples of strong, intelligent women who will challenge the status quo and speak honestly. This helps both women and men engage in healthy debate about all issues. Labeling Ferraro as a "has-been" is disrespectful to her and the role she has played in American politics. I wouldn't assume she isn't voting for Obama, either. Many of us are, even if he wasn't our first choice. Hillary and Bill sealed that deal at the convention.

  • Posted By: robforrams @ 09/15/2008 3:06:41 PM

    She is a democrat you morons and the first female vice presidential candidate. Just because she's critical of the sexist views of the media against a republican woman, you decide to throw her under the bus. I guess she has company now with Rev. Wright, Obama's Grandmother, and Sen. Liebermann. Open your eyes and stop dissing anyone who says anthing critical of Obama or praise for a Republican candidate..

  • Posted By: maupingirl @ 09/15/2008 3:02:31 PM

    Geraldine Ferraro is a pain in womans side. Here we are in 2008 and everyone is still discussing this sexist thing. Palin has to be asked the hard questions and since Charlie was the only person given access to her it was his job to find out who she is and what she knows. I am tired of the sexist discussion, it degrads woman and get us off message. I care about woman's issues and Palin scares me to death. She would set us back so far. I can not believe all those that support her are really listening to what she has to say and represents. She is George Bush in a female body and look how that is working out.

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