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  • Posted By: marcus5546 @ 09/22/2008 11:50:42 PM

    I second the comment made by OLDFOOL. We need to put aside some of our outdated beliefs and move our thoughts ahead and accept a more practical means of governing.

  • Posted By: marcus5546 @ 09/22/2008 11:47:53 PM

    I second everything OLDFOOL mentioned. We need a new approach in life that requires common sense, not outdated beliefs that do not work for most Americans.

  • Posted By: OLDFOOL @ 09/22/2008 9:11:10 PM

    First, STOP 'FAST TRACK' trade agreements which profit individual corporations and hurt the American People.
    Second, DUMP the CROOKS on Wall Street. Tough bargaining for profit only, and put some of them in JAIL.
    Third, GET OFF OIL DEPENDENCE. Whatever it takes.
    Fourth, TRASH THE DEMOCRATIC AND REPUBLICAN PARTIES. WE THE PEOPLE DESERVE BETTER.
    Fifth, Leave IRAQ as soon as possible, while not immediately, within one to two years. MAKE THEM FIGHT and take RESPONSIBILITY FOR THEIR GOD DAMN COUNTRY. WE can still supply them and not abandon them as we did with the unfortunate VIETNAMESE whom we deserted.
    Sixth, demand and GET functional immigration and don't tolerate anything less.
    Seventh, legalize MJ, cocaine, heroin, etc., and control it as the British do.
    Eighth, get prison inmates paroled and into working jobs
    Ninth, make education a national priority with minimal standards for all schools, not poor vs rich districts
    Tenth, Beware of military entanglement in Afghanistan with large numbers of troops and equipment
    Eleventh, or else just dig a hole and die.

  • Posted By: danedwards @ 09/22/2008 3:26:12 PM

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  • Posted By: melbee1971 @ 09/21/2008 7:52:26 PM

    "ABOVE ALL THINGS, I hope that the education of the common people will be attended to, convinced that on their good sense we may rely with the most security for the preservation of a due degree of liberty." -Thomas Jefferson

  • Posted By: bccamper @ 09/17/2008 12:45:22 AM

    So where did the money go? If all these companies are writing down their investment portfolio by billions who are they giving the money to? Did they already give it away through loans, which people are not paying back? So the money must be in the economy? or Was it really only play money inflated on the stock market? If it went in to the economy why don't the american people simply pay back there loans as they agreed.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 09/21/2008 7:42:24 PM

      Enter Your Comment The only part missing is McCain't scholastic achievements. Pretty dismal. They don't like to discuss that. Or his moral failings.

  • Posted By: LudwigVanBeet @ 09/17/2008 11:52:15 AM

    One of the things that totally amazes me is that Mitt Romney tries to cover for McCain etc, and yet I know for a fact that the average Repub or Conservative actually can not stomach the Mormon or his beliefs. Are they just stupid or completely brainwashed.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 09/21/2008 7:37:22 PM

      AMEN! You nailed it.

  • Posted By: TruthDemsIgnore @ 09/21/2008 12:45:05 PM

    I see the Obamatons are out spreading lies and ignoring the obvious:
    Bush proposed regulating mortgages, and Democrats shut it down in party line votes.
    John McCain tried in 2005, with the same result from Democrats on the Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac payroll.

    More taxes to distribute wealth, on top of bailouts for corruption protected by Democrats is only going to make matters worse.

    • Posted By: melbee1971 @ 09/21/2008 3:22:52 PM

      Cite your sources please. Your hyperbole is deafening.

  • Posted By: melbee1971 @ 09/19/2008 9:43:03 AM

    As a public high school teacher, the current state of our public institutions reflect our values as a society, from my point of view. (I make $26,000 a year.) We are bailing out these failing institutions with taxpayer dollars while the state of our public school system continues to decline. Good teachers are being laid off and class sizes are growing. No child left behind is a law that requires improvements without the promised funding to implement these improvements. And our schools are listed as "failing schools" because of unrealistic goals that are never supported or funded by the federal government in the first place. What is left in our public schools is often a stressed out skeleton staff that does not have the ability to properly educate our students, which we would hope will lead us someday to more effective ways of running this country.

    Meanwhile, these corporate lobbyists have effectively secured deregulation and what they consider "optimal" conditions for their financial success (deregulation). And a few well-connected people have lined their pockets with enormous amounts of other peoples' money.

    This sort of short-term gain at the expense of long-term growth way of thinking have really infected our entire way of running our society.

    Unfortunately middle and lower class young people (the MAJORITY) of our future do not have the money or the resources to hire corporate lobbyists. Their teachers and their schools have very limited resources. And there is little to NO organized efforts to effectively support the reform and progress to lead our public schools to educate and prepare our future. In every other developed and developing country we compare our students' progress with, there is a clear and dedicated effort to improve, fund, and prioritize education. In America, we are starving our schools while bailing out reckless fat cats who've thrived on greed. Is this the American Way? Or have we lost our way?

    Hopefully (as we say in school) we will learn from all of this and use it to improve, grow, and succeed.

  • Posted By: Nins @ 09/18/2008 10:22:16 PM

    Fannie Mae, Freddy Mac, Bear Sterns, Lehman Brothers, AIG and the rest of the failed institutions have failed primarily because of former Senator Phil Gramm. The Gramm-Leach-Biley Act stripped away the regulations separating banking from investment companies, insurance companies and mortgage guaranty companies. Those regulations were added after the Great Depression when it became obvious that allowing banks to be in bed with the stock market was a sure way to rig the system to collapse, as it did in 1929.

    Lo an behold, a few years after the regulations were removed, the sh!t has hit the fan, and the inter-related investment, insurance, mortgage and banking industries are now starting to collapse, and guess what, you, the taxpayer will have to pay to clean it up.

    Phil Gramm is the Senator who brought you the "Enron Loophole" that de-regulated futures trading, causing the prices of oil, gas and food to spiral out of control.

    Senator Phil Gramm was McCain's top economic advisor until recently, when he was forced to step down after he said that there is no problem with our economy other than a "mental recession" on the part of a "nation of whiners." Phil Gramm is the man who McCain said he wants to name Secretary of the Treasury if he becomes President. You have to believe John McCain when he says that he knows little about the economy -- so little that he doesn't even know who to choose as an advisor.

    Barack Obama addressed the Enron Loophole, futures trading, short-selling and Wall Street de-regulation months ago in his economic position papers, which are available on his website. Obama has been saying all along that he is going to put in strict regulations and clean up Wall Street.

    McCain just started saying that he favors regulation in the past couple of weeks. How is it that McCain is going to put in new regulations, when he plans to appoint Phil Gramm, the man who authored the de-regulation, as Secretary of the Treasury? McCain says he would fire Christopher Cox, the SEC Chairman, to solve the problem. However, the problem is caused by lack of regulations on the legislative level, regulations that were removed before Cox was appointed. The SEC can only enforce regulations that actually exist, so making a scapegoat of Cox solves nothing. I would suggest that McCain is guilty of saying what's politically expedient, that he does not actually intend to regulate the banking industry. McCain knows that most Americans are unaware of the details.

    I am a middle-aged white conservative Republican who loves America. I am voting for Barack Obama.

    http://www.thecarpetbaggerreport.com/archives/15050.html
    http://www.newsweek.com/id/145011/page/1
    http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/editorial/outlook/6007788.html
    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9A01E0D81038F934A25752C0A9649C8B63
    http://my.barackobama.com/page/community/post/stateupdates/gG5Rzb

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 09/18/2008 8:41:01 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    Is terrifying. He thinks it could get worse then the great depression.
    Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world
    Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms.
    And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
    The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.
    If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash
    And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before
    The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
    Lehman, Merill Lynch, and Bear Sterns have survived for over 150 years and survived even the great depression
    They are important because the are the biggest engines of growth in america and
    they are connected to almost everything.
    The last time the real estate market numbers looked this bad was during
    The great depression and real estate often leads the way into major economic recessions.
    Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix itHe does not understand exactly what is broken.Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these securities use complex math models very few people understand.They are basically bundles of thousand of loans some good and some bad that are then given rules based on complex math. It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this, and the same things bush and mcain have done for the last 8 years
    Have not worked so far and wont work in the future.
    if you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always got
    90 percent of the time they have voted the same.
    Please don't just take my word for it Start to read up on some of this yourself. MSN money, elliot wave and, bloomberg Have tons of articles That prove we are in the heading into one of the worst economies any one has ever seen. So why are the polls even close then ?
    The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
    they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell personality instead of results.He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
    Lets teach him we are smarter then that and elect the ticket that can
    bring us back from the brink of a economic abyss.Mcain admits in the year 2008 he cannot use a computer even to send email.It impossible then that he understands how to help us. its time to wake up now while it will still help

  • Posted By: Allardyce @ 09/15/2008 10:23:59 PM

    You are all such liars. There is not a thing wrong with our economy. John McCain said so, and so did Sarah Palin. Sarah should know since she is governor of a state, and she knows more about the economy than Liberals.

    • Posted By: Taxpayer Sinkhole @ 09/18/2008 11:44:22 AM

      You are seriously deluded! People like you, with a one-sided biased viewpoint are responsible for the downfall of this country! You are way beyond help!

  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 09/18/2008 3:08:55 AM

    myopinions: in response to your questions.
    1. by offshoring millions of jobs to other countries, people earn less and mortgage companies are forced to 'fudge' the rules.
    2. those who purchased 'the american dream' are in trouble because there are not many jobs, and the pay has gone down since 1999 for the average worker. The institution to help homeowners save their home is provided by the government who will take half of the equity earned when the house is sold, and is limited to those who qualify.
    3. - 4c4 Your pretty much on the mark with these. One thing to remember is that with the loss of 10 million american jobs offshore, both state and feds lose tons of revenue.

  • Posted By: dennis1234 @ 09/16/2008 8:05:06 PM

    I'm not worried,Sarah Palin will handle everything, she is a financial wizard!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    • Posted By: davidwayneosedach @ 09/17/2008 8:09:21 PM

      Wasn't she on the AIG board?

  • Posted By: emmarcee @ 09/17/2008 5:37:17 PM

    don't worry , Biden will protect all the credit card companies!! and the corporatist Bloomberg has sided with Obama to pull strings to bring the street down.

  • Posted By: myopinions @ 09/17/2008 5:14:29 PM

    So, let me see if I have this right.
    1. The mortgage collapse has created a problem for those who made it possible - the big banks etc.
    2. Those who were the recipeints of the american dream - owning your own home - but are unable to manage the drastic changes as a result of the collapse now can get help, but only if an institution will participate in the program.
    3. The big banks and insurance underwiters who got caught with their pants down get big bailouts, mandatory bailouts as they would cause more harm if they were allowed to collapse.
    4. The little guy that is suffering from this, is alll of us becuse:
    a. As forclosure mount - property values fall
    b. As property values fall - so does property base revenue for other portions of local govt.
    c. As those revenus fall, the taxes will either have to go up - or -
    c1. Budget cuts to basic services like police and fire ensue - neighborhoods and property values collapse.
    c2. Taxes raise and moderatley service cuts and item c1
    c3. Services are not cut and taxes are not raised - local govt collapse is the result
    c4. Services are cut, taxes are lowered based on property value - local govt longevity - neighborhoods decline - taxes decline - more service cuts - eventual local and neighborhoods collapse

    Now, I am not a doom sayer, these are just the logical result of the current - the economy isnt too bad based thinking.

    Think about it. What would be next?

  • Posted By: readmewell2 @ 09/15/2008 9:44:09 PM

    The only insulation is to stay as liquid as possible for as long as possible. We are the TITA NTIC, AND it is sinking into the worst Depression in history. George Dubua and the Oil Ceo's have robbed us blind. Get prepared for a Humpty Dumpty fall. All the Kings can't put this back together again.

    • Posted By: gregw1031 @ 09/16/2008 4:00:41 PM

      Blah, blah, blah...the sky is falling!!! Whatever. What sacrifices has anyone on this board actually had to make due to this fiasco??? Do you still have food on the table? Are you still going to the movies and out to eat on the weekend? Are you still driving to the beach or mountains for recreation? Everyone is freaking out about this but in reality, it hasn't really affected any of us that seriously. We all need to just chill and ride it ouit.

      • Posted By: baybluv @ 09/17/2008 3:52:02 PM

        Speak for yourself, just because your lifestyle hasn't changed doesn't mean no one else's has. Don't you read the paper, 84,000 people lost their jobs in August. Duh, Duh to you.

  • Posted By: Stoobee @ 09/15/2008 10:31:15 PM

    Do any of you brain surgeons realize all this is happening under a democratic controlled congress? Maybe not

    • Posted By: tbrew66 @ 09/17/2008 11:00:58 AM

      apparently they were not aware of who controls congress.....DUH

      • Posted By: baybluv @ 09/17/2008 3:50:23 PM

        We know that the Repubolicans have controlled the congress six (6) of the last eight (8) years and we have the mess to show for it.

  • Posted By: davidwayneosedach @ 09/16/2008 12:07:25 PM

    We are certainly thinking about spreading our banks accounts around and putting a sizeable chunk of cash in a safe deposit box.

    • Posted By: baybluv @ 09/17/2008 3:46:40 PM

      It won't help because your paper money won't be worth a dime. If you don't have silver or gold, you won't be able to live.

  • Posted By: orry @ 09/16/2008 2:27:42 PM

    How worried shoud we be? It doesn't really matter anymore. It doesn't really matter who's at fault or who will be the next president. We, as American's, are going to end up in the same place - bankruptcy. There's no avoiding it now it's already too late. The hard truth is politicians won't raise taxes as that would be committing political suicide but at the same time won't restrict spending as it too is considered to be political suicide. Real capitol (investment) comes from saving - not borrowing. Our economy has been barreling down the path of borrowing, since the LBJ administration, for so long that now the piper has come a calling. It's time to pay up. The only way we can do that is to print more money which is the equivalent of throwing more gasoline on the fire. Eventually, the dollar will be worthless and eveyone, and I do mean everyone in this country will be cyring for help. That help will come in the form of a North American Union and the Amero (the western equivalent to the Euro) which equals loss of sovereignty. Goodbye USA. Hello god only knows what. I'm glad I won't be alive to see it. I wish you all the best and keep fighting amongst yourselves about trivial conservative vs liberal policies that don't mean shi$ and is totally irrelevent. Just keep running up charges on your credit card and crying to the government for help everytime you sneeze and by all means KEEP listening to political activist groups like FOX News and MSNBC for your keen insight into what's really going on in this country.

    • Posted By: baybluv @ 09/17/2008 3:41:38 PM

      Couldn't have said it better. This is why we are called dumb Americans by other countries because we believe any and everything the government tells us. WAKE UP and start reading and researching some things for yourself. The way the government is buying up everything, if we don't become a par of the North American Union, we will be living in a Communist country because the government will own everything. Who's next, the airlines and then the car industries?

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