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  • Posted By: deelynn @ 09/18/2008 2:15:03 PM

    I'm curious as to where homosexuality is okay in the Bible. Please share those scriptures with me. Thank you.

    • Posted By: jnklive @ 09/18/2008 2:25:31 PM

      Deelynn, If you truly wish to see what the Bible has to say about homosexuality, I implore you to read "A Letter to Louise" that Rev. Bruce. W. Lowe wrote to a female friend to answer questions about her son being homosexual. The website it is on is http://www.godmademegay.com/, or you could look up "A letter to Louise" in any search enging. I am not saying it is right or wrong, what I am saying is that we need to learn all we can before we make judgements about anyone.

      • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:58:39 PM

        The bible does not say it is OK. But folks, we need to quit passing judgment over our bretherin. We all sin daily.

  • Posted By: BR549 @ 09/18/2008 2:13:36 PM

    To the person who says being gay is a sin...the same book in the bible that says being gay is bad also says that eating lobster is a sin and that women who wear red dresses are whores. Sarah Palin wears red dresses...Sarah Palin is unmarried and presumably having sex with the "first dude" which according to your rule book is fornication. Sarah the fornicating whore...and I bet you are going to vote for her because she is "prolife'....I am so sick of yoiu Christian hypocrites who only want to "enforce" the laws of Moses that don't apply to you....if you are born again but still tell others they are bound by the Law then you are nothing but a hypocrite and you have better be careful about putting a stumbling block in the faith of another...your rulle book says that it would be better for you if you had a stone fastened around your neck and were cast into the sea..

    • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:55:27 PM

      Sorry to break this to you but it is a sin. But so is many other things we do on a daily basis. Don't try to justify it, it is a sin. And those that don't do it quit passing judgment over those that do. You have enough to atone for without adding self-righteousness to your list.

    • Posted By: no-american @ 09/18/2008 2:31:00 PM

      Oh, is it the latest lie from you libs and dems that Sara Palin is not married? WOW, ya'll ARE desparate!!!!!

      • Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 09/19/2008 10:22:36 AM

        I think the poster meant her daughter. And she is irrelevant to this discussion.

    • Posted By: jfmccann @ 09/18/2008 2:31:28 PM

      Thought the article was about gays. Why do you even bring up Palin?

  • Posted By: morri234 @ 09/20/2008 3:52:55 PM

    The arguement against the "rights" of gays and lesbians seems to always center in opinions based on moral judgements. If people don't want gays and lesbians to be members of private organizations such as churches or clubs that are privately organized and funded that's already legal and part of what America was founded on. We call that freedom. If a specific group of taxpaying, legal citizens with social security numbers is blocked from participating in legal processes that others of the same standing are able to take for granted, we used to call that discrimination. Are there any issues that fall under a catagory of "seperation fo church and state" anymore? Many of us wouldn't care one way or the other on the gay and lesbian marriage issue, but does it open the door for further undermining of civil rights? Should women voting? Should Blacks be free? Is it enough that the majority agrees? Are there any issues that should not be put to the test of public opinion by adding them to the ballot? Do we still hold any truths to be self evident? Which ones? Maybe when the government finally mandates that all citizens shall be baptized evangelicals we'll take more notice?

  • Posted By: A Gay American Citizen @ 09/20/2008 3:51:04 PM

    Aloha!
    First of all I want to thank MSN and Newsweek for publishing the article. My partner and I have been together 25yrs this Feb. '08. And, like it was stated, "For gay seniors there's no time to waste".
    Mahalo Nui Loa, Robaire Viloria

  • Posted By: opn8ted1 @ 09/18/2008 2:13:08 PM

    All Gay and Lesbians want are the basic rights guaranteed by the Constitution, because if I am not mistaken it does say that all men are created equal, not all men unless you are gay or a lesbian.
    Get real people, we do not choose to be homosexual, God made us this way!

    • Posted By: JuanMotime @ 09/18/2008 2:21:03 PM

      Ah, no einstein. God did NOT make you that way. You have chosen to live that way. God made all men equal in that we are born of flesh and blood, and have been given a free will. You have chosen to exercise your free will to live as a homosexual. The real problem here is that all the gay blades refuse to hear the truth, and when they do, WE are labelled bashers or homophobic. Get real.

      • Posted By: FlaNative @ 09/18/2008 2:49:57 PM

        I truly don't know if being gay is a choice or not. But I do know this, if someone is born gay, I know that God does not make mistakes. And if it is a choice, God has also told us that it is not our place to judge, it is His. For the record, I am female, heterosexual and a conservative.

        • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:45:32 PM

          Right on the money...

    • Posted By: Southernreb23 @ 09/18/2008 2:15:36 PM

      Hate to say it but you do chose!

      • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 2:25:07 PM

        Southernreb23, if you get a chance, please change your name. I don't want everyone who reads these to think that all southerners are dull and ignorant. What experience do you have to make a blanket statement that God didn't make homosexuals gay? Have you been gay? Did God personally tell you? Did you have a vision? I am gay, and I am a Christian. I know how God made me. He made us perfect, and He happened to make me perfectly gay. Don't know why, but He did.

        • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:44:36 PM

          Leviticus 25 - it is a sin to know someone of the same sex. But I would like to see anyone who claims they do not sin. God loves us all and we all sin. We are told to love one another and take the timber from our own eye before attempting to take the splinter from another. God sent Jesus to save us all, not just those who think they are right.

      • Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 09/19/2008 10:21:05 AM

        southern,

        Hate to say but yo are an ingnorant fool.
        Science has proven that is is not a choice but a biolgical impoerative., And natural. No different than race, handedness, height or eye color.

        And since there is no god, what some man-made book says is of no importance to the general world, only to its belivers.

      • Posted By: ergobot @ 09/18/2008 2:18:14 PM

        as one of my closest gay friends said "why would i chose to be descriminated against and hated? if i could be straight i would be." its not a choice, just like i don't choose to be straight. i do, however, choose not to hate or belittle my fellow Americans or any other human being. i may be angry and not agree with situations or countries or other's actions, but it is not my place to judge. you are free to say what you feel and so am i and that is what America is about. we agree to disagree on many things but we can still live in the same great country.

  • Posted By: jessix01 @ 09/18/2008 2:12:59 PM

    OK ... You missed one of the BIGGEST FEARS of an aging gay person:

    Nursing homes, assisted living facilities, ANY place that deals with a senior population:
    (1) Discriminate against their residents, treating them like children.
    (2) Assume seniors no longer have feelings of any type.
    (3) Assume ALL residents want to mingle with members of the opposite sex. .

    Residents are "rewarded" with dance nights, sing-a-longs, all sorts of mixers strictly geared to a social heterosexual person.

    I had a hard enough time in Junior High School. Every Friday the wall that separated the boys and girls gyms was rolled back, leaving one huge room. Then the boys made a circle around the girls, picked their partners, and we had "dance lessons"! I will never forget the misery of anticipation of another of these awful sessions. The anxiety started Thursdays and ended immediately upon the completion of Friday's dance class. No child should be subjected to this type of torture. NEITHER SHOULD ANY SENIOR CITIZEN IN A NURSING HOME OR ASSISTED LIVING FACILITY!

    If any person cannot understand what I mean by "misery", imagine yourself living in a world where homosexuality was the norm. Heterosexuals constituted 6% of the population, but this was considered insignificant.

    Imagine yourselves, as a minority member of a group currently NOT IN FAVOR, for reasons like "Only heterosexuals are rapists"; or; "all heterosexuals are sexual deviants", etc. You are 14 years old and have "fallen in love" with a member of the opposite sex. You must attend a two-hour class where you are forced to be selected by or select a known homosexual of your gender. Meanwhile you must watch helplessly as the same thing happens to the object of your affection. How much "fun" do you anticipate every Friday?

    Anybody out there share my concerns?

    • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:37:08 PM

      You have a mental problem is you could not dance with a partner of the opposite sex. If you were expected to sleep with them then I would agree with you. But dance? If you cannot stand to be around someone of the opposite sex then you really need some help.

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  • Posted By: opn8ted1 @ 09/18/2008 2:12:13 PM

    All Gay and Lesbians want are the basic rights guaranteed by the Constitution, because if I am not mistaken it does say that all men are created equal, not all men unless you are gay or a lesbian.
    Get real people, we do not choose to be homosexual, God made us this way!

    • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:33:36 PM

      I don't see any laws that are against the gay community. Everyone always wants to feel they are being oppressed. Try being someone of color then talk to me about being oppressed.

  • Posted By: Core Conservative @ 09/18/2008 2:09:44 PM

    I could have gone all day without seeing that picture on the front of the website.............did not need to see two old lesbians kissing......................give me a break................

    • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:29:33 PM

      Core, why should this bother you?

    • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 2:11:52 PM

      I am grateful that not all of us conservatives are ignorant savages. I am gay, and maybe I would rather not see two people of the opposite sex kissing, but I give others the right to be themselves. Maybe you should consider doing the same.

      • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:24:10 PM

        And who is hateful? Not sure what being conservative has to do with this either.

    • Posted By: jessix01 @ 09/18/2008 2:16:58 PM

      I assume that a picture of an old male and female couple kissing equally turns your stomach?

  • Posted By: straightandproud @ 09/20/2008 3:28:38 PM

    McCAIN - PALIN 2008

  • Posted By: Southernreb23 @ 09/18/2008 2:11:55 PM

    No, the world would be a better place without people like YOU! People like you who go around and stick up for these fags and don't even care what truly is wrong and right. You people are worse than the gays themselves. I can't stand it! Studys say there is some kind of gene that certain people are born with that make them gay. To me, They are just searching for an excuse to put somthing up their a$$. Bottom line: Gays are going to be gays no matter what anyone does or anyone says. But whatever.

    • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 2:26:28 PM

      So, Southernreb23, are you saying that women who like to have anal sex are deviants and should "change their nasty lifestyles."

      • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:27:34 PM

        Talk about hateful people... You need to have more compassion for other peoples views too. Your view may not be 100% nor is his. You are typical of the gay community. Everyone else is so hurtful and their views and beliefs are irrelevant and wrong because they are not like mine. Wah, wah, wah.

  • Posted By: straightandproud @ 09/20/2008 3:25:46 PM

    wow...bible thumpers...that's rich..scumbag

  • Posted By: straightandproud @ 09/20/2008 3:24:24 PM

    So you're calling the bible a manmade story and it is completely false....I wouldn't want to be you on judgement day....wow....this is the problem with this country

  • Posted By: brownsugah @ 09/18/2008 2:05:52 PM

    I agree with drvein99 100%! Being gay is a sin and it is wrong!!! What man wants to be poked in the booty by another man!!!!!? Only a nasty one! And what real womans wants another woman with no real swang! C'mon folks this is dumb!!! I don't want to read this nonsense! Folks God made us the way we should be. How about working on accepting that!

    • Posted By: markmier @ 09/18/2008 2:09:18 PM

      It sounds to me that you're the one who needs to learn "acceptance."

      • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:21:50 PM

        You need to learn what acceptance is. Just becaue someone does not embrace the life style does not mean they do not accept it. Why does the gay community want everyone to embrace thier life style? Most people do not embrace the party life style but that style is accepted, same with gays.

      • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 2:14:43 PM

        markmier, it is not this type of person's way to be accepting. They are only accepting of their kind, their beliefs and their own moral compass. If anyone wants to be a little different than themselves, then the person is a sinner or other such description. They expect everyone to accept them, but they are never accepting of others. Sort of ignorant, isn't it.

    • Posted By: dfwdallas @ 09/18/2008 2:32:10 PM

      Brownsugah, your partially right. God made me the way I am....Gay. I have accepted that and am living my life the way it was meant. I did not choose to be gay, I did not wake up one day and say I want to be gay. I want to be hated and insulted by bigots like you. We are just average people, working our jobs, living our lives and loving our partners. Whether its wrong or right in God's eyes, Let him decide not you. Meanwhile don't continue to hate people just for being who they are. I highly doubt any gay hates you for who you are. Remember HATE is a sin.

    • Posted By: jessix01 @ 09/18/2008 2:26:02 PM

      For brownsugah: "God made us the way we should be. How about working on accepting that!"

      That is your comment and it is very true. GOD made all of us the way we should be and we ALL need to accept that.

      So what is your problem with gays? Who made gay people? The same God who made straight people. So, why say one thing and then deny it?

      Most people admit they don't understand God's plan. Most people also accept that God made each and every one of us the way we are supposed to be.

      Doesn't this mean that if God made me Gay I should accept that this is part of God's plan? Just because I may not understand it doesn't make this any less true does it?

      Many people over the centuries much smarter than me never figured out God's plan. How can I expect to be the one to figure out that God didn't make what I see in front of my face? There is no indication other than that God made everything and God has a plan - know only to GOD!

      I bet it's best for us all to accept this, mind our own business, and make ourselves the best person we can be with what God gave us to work with.

      Meddling in someone else's private business doesn't really fit into God's plan, does it?

  • Posted By: annamaria63 @ 09/20/2008 3:19:11 PM

    The Gay and Lesbian community? Want to be respected for being wrong? There respected for being a human being. Look you can't do the wrong thing and get right results.
    They can't look at that or admit it because there whole wrong depends on it.
    Annamaria Sardina
    Reno,Nevada

  • Posted By: straightandproud @ 09/20/2008 3:16:45 PM

    keep telling myself what?

  • Posted By: Someone925 @ 09/20/2008 3:02:50 PM

    You know, most people accept the gay community but it is the gay community that wants more. They want eveyone to say they are right to live in that style. Why does the gay community want this? What difference does that make? Just quit trying to force your view of the world on everyone.

  • Posted By: dbtmellis @ 09/20/2008 3:02:00 PM

    Gay Senoir Citizens....isnt that a clash of two totally different generations?

  • Posted By: ibinsanediego @ 09/20/2008 3:01:46 PM

    I think there is a homo as Newsweek that keeps posting this worthless stories about how homo's need recognition? next it will be pedophiles.

  • Posted By: jimbo3800 @ 09/19/2008 11:33:11 PM

    Newsweak needs to take down the pics of these aging lesbos - its more than I can take and I am afraid my eyes may never recover.

    Now a couple of young, hottie women together...that is a different story entirely. Oh-la-la!

  • Posted By: not-fooled-by-slick-talking-charlatans @ 09/19/2008 4:40:19 PM

    The repeated reference of homosexuality as a lifestyle is, in my opinion, inaccurate. Never in my life did I make a decision to be gay. I am gay, there was nothing to deliberate about. A lifestyle is a choice (ie. fashion, nutrition habits, religious association, habitation practices, etc.). Being gay is a life (sometimes lacking style), period. The only choice I did make having to be gay is whether or not to lie about it. Once our society comprehends that most people to not decide about their sexual identity, perhaps our ridiculous legal constraints will be viewed as unreasonable.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/19/2008 8:49:45 PM

      you may not make a decision to be gay, but you do make a decision to act gay.....it's the action that causes the problems listed in the article, not the notion that what I have said may be correct.

    • Posted By: truth&justiceforall @ 09/19/2008 5:08:30 PM

      Therein lies the problem, as evidenced by so much of the discussion in this thread. Those who believe it's a "lifestyle choice" won't be swayed from that viewpoint, no matter how many professional opinions you march out to show them otherwise. The pretzel logic they employ ito justify their position can be jaw dropping, and nine times out of ten it ends up with "the bible says it's wrong" (conveniently ignoring all the other stuff it also says is wrong).

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