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  • Posted By: mdKevin @ 09/18/2008 2:38:26 PM

    The larger issue is inheritance taxes. They are wrong and unfair. The issue effect everyone from passing down family farms to the people in this article. If the tax was eliminated, many of the important issues in this article would be solved. Focusing on one particular group of people will tend to polarize the issue and is counter productive. The focus should be the larger issue which would befit many interested groups. Ironically the gay community tends to vote for Democrates who are more in favor of this tax which have a big impact on their rights to pass their hard earned money and property to whom they wish.

    • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 11:29:05 PM

      Probate and inheritance taxes are just one of many issues. Straight people are protected from testifying against their spouses in court in most cases. There is no protections for gay couples. Federal benefits are not available to same sex spouses as they are to opposite sex couples. Marriage solves a myriad of legal issues with one inexpensive license. Many of these issues we can solve by paying an attorney thousands, but some are not available through any legal means at any price. That's why we fight for equal rights. That is why my partner and I traveled from our home state of Washington to California to be married 2 weeks ago. Please support your gay and lesbian friends and relatives. We are by definition, a small minority. We can't acheive equal rights without your help.

    • Posted By: ergobot @ 09/18/2008 2:39:40 PM

      absolutely. agree.

      • Posted By: natoma77 @ 09/18/2008 2:42:08 PM

        We're also in favor of democrats because they aren't the ones looking to legislate us out of existence. The republicans on the other hand have proven themselves to be the party of intolerance, hate, and fear.

        No, what we need isn't an end necessarily to the tax, but equal representation for our relationships as for heterosexual relationships.

  • Posted By: navymom06 @ 09/18/2008 2:39:28 PM

    Wow I really can't stand the labels. I don't see gay people I just see people. everyone is created equal they should have the same rights as everyone esle. The fedral goverment and they GOP who are so easy to condem their life style have no probelm taxing them so why should they not have the same rights. Also like one of the other post said Christ embraces everyone if you read the Bible. Altough we don't know how relible the Bible is it is a book interpeted by man who as you can see is not always reliable.

    • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 11:18:59 PM

      Your "moral" children are being taught by you to hate gays. How "christ-like" of you.

    • Posted By: max298 @ 09/18/2008 4:35:58 PM

      Because they try to teach our kids that homosexuality is normal rather we want them to or not.It is not natural and I don't want my MORAL children taught that immorality is just normal.

  • Posted By: uno08 @ 09/18/2008 5:22:35 PM

    I dont think you have a choice in who you fall in love with.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 5:56:50 PM

      dont have a choice with who you fall in love with........wow.......isnt love an emotion........we all have control over our emotions, or at least we should have. That's how you get into trouble, by not controling your emotions.

      • Posted By: markoff_chaney @ 09/18/2008 11:05:49 PM

        you can also get into plenty of trouble by denying and repressing emotions.

  • Posted By: truth&justiceforall @ 09/18/2008 9:22:14 PM

    My point was in response to his comment that somehow a "man / woman" relationship "never" spreads the disease, which is ridiculous. If in ANY relationship, gay or straight both parties are not infected at the beginning of their relationship and stay monogamous there is ZERO chance of transmission, period. He was implying that somehow a male female relationship was different, and that's not true.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:55:31 PM

      One more difference. the man and woman chose to be married to each other.......the man and the man must have been forced to unite.

      • Posted By: truth&justiceforall @ 09/18/2008 11:04:49 PM

        That comment doesn't even make sense. What, is all same sex encounters "rape"?

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:37:04 PM

      Apparently a male female relationship is different though, according to the article. Apparently those with a healthy heterosexual marriage are somehow spared the difficulties that an aging gay population are to face.......alone..... That's the point, the difficulties mentioned in the article are a matter of making choices.

      • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 9:40:44 PM

        The article doesn't mention lesbian relationships. Women live longer and lesbians are more likely to have partners late in life.

  • Posted By: truth&justiceforall @ 09/18/2008 9:11:06 PM

    getthe point: AIDS is not spread by same sex monogamous relationships either. Your point is meaningless - the common denominator is MONOGAMY, not gay or straight. Nice try, though.

    • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 9:17:07 PM

      The key word in may not be monogamy, per se. It's possible for a to have become HIV+ before getting into a monogamous relationship. That's not to say that people should not be monogamous. People have to practice safer sex or stop having sex.

      • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:30:45 PM

        it's not possible for anyone to become HIV without first entering into a backwards decision....unless by some medical accident, but that's got nothing to do with a choice. If one of the partners entering into a relationship is already HIV, then that person is reaping the fruit of some decision they made somewhere down the line. How can that be so invisible?.....

        • Posted By: truth&justiceforall @ 09/18/2008 11:02:54 PM

          It's not. What's it got to do with gay or straight (besides your obvious bias)?

  • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 8:59:00 PM

    with regard to the spread of aids........we should be clear.........aids may be spread by homosexual men and women as well as straight men and women. However, it is never spread by a one woman, one man relationship.......never....... You can call it gay marriage, you can even apply all the benefits that society grants to the term, but it will never be equal..... Anyone with eyes to see and ears to hear would get that point.

    • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 9:09:37 PM

      The CDC has no reports of a woman getting AIDS via woman to woman sex. My point is that getting AIDS is a matter of having sex. Men transfer more body fluids than women, whose body's are more absorbent. AIDS does spread more readily from male to female than the other way around.

      • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:56:53 PM

        Aids is only spread by choice.

        • Posted By: markoff_chaney @ 09/18/2008 11:00:45 PM

          Wrong. Plenty of people walk around not knowing they have it. Plenty of people have spouses or SOs who cheat on them. Children born to mothers with HIV don't really have a say either. Condoms break.

  • Posted By: cmg1973 @ 09/18/2008 2:58:00 PM

    OMG! I can not believe that you would post a picture of 2 women kissing when you go to this website! Have some prudence please! It is bad enough that I have to live in California where I see this kind of BEHAVIOR daily-but what is worse is trying to expalin to our children WHY 2 women are kissing! Distasteful and no regards to your publics NORMAL readers.

    • Posted By: jlivesay @ 09/18/2008 3:19:55 PM

      What woud Jesus do? Slap you upside the head, that is what.

      • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 10:47:26 PM

        You dont HAVE to live in California, in fact, you don't HAVE to live in the U.S. I think you should leave if you are so unhappy with displays of affection. Move to Siberia where you can rub noses instead of that dirty kissing thing...

    • Posted By: markoff_chaney @ 09/18/2008 3:06:31 PM

      Get over yourself. Love is love. What would Jesus rather see, two women kissing who clearly love each other, or carbombs and warzones?

      • Posted By: SonoftheSon @ 09/18/2008 3:51:14 PM

        Actually neither! Rethink your flawed logic. He did not condemn the woman at the well but He did tell her to go and sin no more. His expectation was that she would stop being a serial adulterer. Also, when Peter tried to kill one of the guards in the Garden he told Peter to stop and He picked up the cut off ear and restored it. Jesus was a man of peace and held out the promise of eternal life to everyone who believed that He was the Son of God, sent to forgive the sins of all of mankind. He made it very clear that the only sin that would ultimately lead to the loss of eternal life was unbelief in Him and His claim as God. All others sins are forgiven. To those of you who have responded that there are many ways, what did it mean when Jesus said "I am the way, the truth and the life, no man comes to the Father but by Me..."? To those of you who do not believe that God exists or that He is not the God of the Bible, what tangible proof do you have? I mean really tangible proof that He does not exist! I'm anxious to hear your thoughts!

        • Posted By: markoff_chaney @ 09/18/2008 4:24:06 PM

          my point is, this is a news site and people routined come here and see pictures of car bombs and murder victims. yet someone is shocked by two women kissing. Lighten up, seriously.

          Not everyone is Christian! Not everyone seethes hatred for people who live a different life! Your morals are not everybody's morals! Get over it!

          • Posted By: SonoftheSon @ 09/18/2008 4:41:14 PM

            Thank you for clarifying. I get your point now. A kiss is just a kiss.... Paul said to greet one another with a holy kiss. Does that mean it's OK to be a gay christian? No. Does that mean that all Christians are gay? No. Does that mean that you can't be a gay Christian? No. It just means regard one another as brothers and sisters. I'm lightening up now!

      • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 3:50:08 PM

        Wait, didn't Jesus kiss one of his disciples? Ooops, what does that mean? Nothing, that's what it means. Please people, a kiss is just a kiss......

    • Posted By: cr42001 @ 09/18/2008 3:10:34 PM

      OMG! Your attitude is what is distasteful to normal readers. And by the way, you may be heterosexual but you really have no claim to "normal".

    • Posted By: Auzziebird @ 09/18/2008 3:06:11 PM

      Don't be so prudish! It shows your ignorance.

  • Posted By: Ric86 @ 09/18/2008 3:03:21 PM

    I have looked back into my past for an answer as to why I personally was open to lesbianism, and I think it lies primarily with a problematic relationship with mom. Early on, I decided I didn't want to be like she was. My adventure into the gay scene started with fun and excitement. But years later, it had fundamentally changed me--spiraling me downward into a depression that nearly cost me my life.

    There has been no scientific evidence to prove that homosexuality or lesbianism is part of our human design, and the fallacy of the "gay gene" theory has been revealed. We must conclude that all of us are designed to be heterosexual, but that something happens in those early formative years in the child that sets the stage for alternative sexual behavior.
    (Linda Wall)

    • Posted By: cr42001 @ 09/18/2008 3:20:01 PM

      so using your method of deduction, since there is no scientific evidence that the females of our species are equal to the males we must conclude that human males are superior? hello, Ric86 - the dark ages would like their science back...

      • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 10:40:30 PM

        You just made all that up. You never had a lesbian relationship. You are lying to make dishonest point.

  • Posted By: Molly Tonks @ 09/18/2008 3:03:49 PM

    My dad falls into this catagory. He's 72 and lives with his partner who is 82. He has VA benefits and the pharmacist wouldn't fill his ED meds because of his sexual orientation. I thought that it was outrageous. If a private pharmacist didn't want to fill it, then that's up to them. But one working for the government should be fired for not filling the prescdription.

    As far as I know, that's the only time he's ever been discriminated against. By in large, Gay Men make more money than straight ones do. We don't owe them any more than we do anyone else. Gay marriage, fine. I've always said that let's make Gay marriage legal and make adultry illegal again.

    • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 10:39:07 PM

      Thanks for your comments. The discrimination that your father experienced is unfortunately common. This is one of the issues that Gay and Lesbian servicemen and women are trying to resolve. Personally, I have very good health insurance thru my employer, but it will only last until I retire. Like too many companies today, my company does not provide health insurance for retirees. If I were a woman, married to a 20 year Navy veteran, I would be eligible for healthcare thru my retirement until my death. I would also receive my spouses modest retirement check monthly. But because we are both men, even though we are legally married in the State of California, registered domestic partners in the State of Washington, and have lived together in a loving, monogamous relationship for 10 years in both those states, I will not be insured except by Medicare, and will lose that part of our joint income. I firmly believe that is not constitutional, but now that the Supreme Court has been poisoned by Republican haters, I have no faith that equal rights are in the near future for me or my gay and lesbian brothers and sisters...

    • Posted By: mcsaripkin @ 09/18/2008 3:46:56 PM

      Molly, finally a word from a sane mind on here. Your comments were well appreciated and inciteful. Thank you for understanding the plight without all of the religious rhetoric. My best wishes to your father and his partner. The military says "don't ask, don't tell." Thank you for telling.

      • Posted By: Molly Tonks @ 09/18/2008 4:37:50 PM

        Nice of you to say.

  • Posted By: sportboy518 @ 09/18/2008 10:07:45 PM

    getthepoint-this article was about older gays (65-years old plus) and not about the young gays of today. Those older gays grew up when gays were required to hide their sexual orientation from family, friends and the workplace. They grew up when long-term relationships among gays were practicially unknown. They literally had to hide their sexuality "in the closet."
    You will notice that the article mentions those gays that grew up after the Stonewall riots. Many gays who grew up after the riots never really knew what it was like to have to hide your sexual identity. Life is much different know for younger gays and probably more dangerous due to HIV/AIDS. But the older generation of gays lived a much more secluded life having had to hide for many, many years.
    It is not very easy for anyone heterosexual or homosexual to make new friends when you are in your seventies and eighties.
    Life is much more different when you are in your seventies than in your thirties.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 10:31:08 PM

      i agree to all that you said.............but young or old, there is still a choice involved. If you dont like the fruit that grows on that tree, dont plant it in your garden........

  • Posted By: mrarcadian @ 09/18/2008 3:14:37 PM

    Homosexuality is a mental issue. Okay get it thru your small head people, how can you sit there reading this and not professed to this. ITS NOT RIGHT. humans makes mistake and homosexuality is one of them.

    I cant believe how people can think about this, Yes its okay to LOVE SOMEONE. yeah yeah, so what but to praise this problem, i think not, ill be certaon to vote to BAN gay marriages. They cannot create life, so they should be allowed to have a family. Sure go ahead Love who ever you like. Just dont praise it as something
    glorious because its not. Its wrong on all levels. but hey Humans makes mistakes.

    • Posted By: boundtobond @ 09/18/2008 3:29:15 PM

      ~but hey Humans makes mistakes~ Yes, you are so correct, and so does God -- you're one of his/her/its mistakes. And, not to nitpick, but what the devil is the matter with your grammar? Oh, I know, you're human...

      • Posted By: Start one @ 09/18/2008 3:44:11 PM

        boundtobond, God does not make mistakes. Be very careful of what you say.

        • Posted By: boundtobond @ 09/18/2008 6:47:54 PM

          Ahhhh, and here we have another mistake.

          • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 10:20:26 PM

            All these litle biological errors. THATS how Bush got elected.

    • Posted By: Start one @ 09/18/2008 3:29:47 PM

      Amen

  • Posted By: sportboy518 @ 09/18/2008 8:25:16 PM

    BostonMan: Until the mid 90's the American Psychiatric Society recognize homosexuality as a mental disorder.
    Oh enlightened one: the American Psychiatric Society stopped recognizing homosexuality as a mental disorder in 1973. Look it up.
    As for the poster 'getthepoint' who said these folks just need to make new friends: These are elderly people. Many of their peers and immediate family members are no longer living. And it is not as easy making new friends and new family when you are 75-years-old as it was when you were 21-years old. These people may well be beyond the working age and may also have disabilities (non-HIV/AIDS related) that preclude them from working or even volunteering. This is also true of heterosexual men and women.
    As for the Christian bible and homosexuality-nice book, good stories but not the word of God-just the opinions of uneducated men with no more understanding of mankind and the universe than what they were able to observe outside their front door.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:13:42 PM

      Yes, many of these people's family and peers may no longer be living. How does that make them different from anyone else who's growing older? And yes, it may not be as easy to make new friends at 75 as it was when you were 21, but who's holding them back?...They may be well beyond the working age, ............ Ok, how's that different from the ordinary individual who's looking out thier front door...........Instead of looking for some sort of recognition, the gay community should be warning the youngers of thier classes that the future aint so bright., and to learn to think for yourselves

      • Posted By: sportboy518 @ 09/18/2008 9:57:32 PM

        Umm-apparently you missed my last sentence.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 8:52:11 PM

      I'm glad you brought the Bible into the discussion, but you dont need it to see the facts here. All you have to do is look at the choices..........and the results of those choices. People dont need to judge other people, thier actions will judge for themselves. That's what's happening, and it cannot be escaped. It can be explained away, but the fruit is already on the tree. For those who have eyes to see and ears to hear, the right choice. can still be make........choose life

  • Posted By: Valerie1972 @ 09/18/2008 4:25:03 PM

    I can at least listen to the religious reasons for why people oppose homosexuality, but why on earth waste the time to spew such hatred without even being able to back up your hatred with anything substantial - PresidentSupporter? However, without you this discussion board wouldn't be nearly as entertaining.

    • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/18/2008 4:29:21 PM

      It's not hatred toward the gay people, it is the gay lifestyle that most oppose. Also, the gay agenda in the schools has to stop. I don't want them telling kids its okay to be gay. Kids are like sponges and will try anything!

      • Posted By: NJ to Miami @ 09/18/2008 4:42:27 PM

        I agree, Heteroexual PEOPLE are ok but that Heterosexual LIFESTYLE and the Heterosexual AGENDA have got to go.

        • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 9:52:27 PM

          I would agree. Those that CHOOSE the amoral and degenerate Heterosexual lifestyle will burn in hell. Straight sex will only result in disease and overpopulation. Straights should be deported.

        • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/18/2008 4:44:57 PM

          I would agree with you on some of the sinful nature that heterosexual people do also, so yes in a sense you are correct.

          • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 09/18/2008 6:18:05 PM

            You totally missed what they were saying LOL you are a very sad pathetic and funny person!

      • Posted By: jchastn @ 09/18/2008 6:28:32 PM

        Our children will not try anything sexual that doesnt appeal to them, and if they do try gay sex and they were not born gay, they will not magically become gay. You are ignorant if you worry about someone becoming gay who was not born that way. IT IS NOT A CHOICE. If it was, nobody would choose it. Lets stop hurting our gay and lesbian americans.

      • Posted By: Valerie1972 @ 09/18/2008 4:47:40 PM

        I get it. Don't hate the sinner hate the sin...Somehow you think that all gay people are going to the media telling them please please parade my lifestyle in front of our country's children. That just isn't the case. I am not a big rainbow flag waver and I don't make out with my partner in public to show kids its cool to be gay. If anything, the media found a cash cow to latch on to and sex sells and we all know it. It just happens to be that at the moment gay sex sells. This isn't the direct doing of gay people though.

        • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 09/18/2008 6:16:39 PM

          Valerie,

          That is the sad part about it why shouldn't you be able to show affection towards your partner in public. I hate to see anyone straight or gay having serious make out sessions in public but handholding and kissing is fine. Have you ever seen "If these walls could talk" the entire movie is about gay relationships. It is a really good movie.

          The reason that I brought up this is because one of the mini stories is about a gay couple (2 women) who had been together since the 20's and in they never felt free enough to even hold hands in public.

          I thought that it was really sad. Hopefully one day this country will evolve and the bigots will evolve with it or die off.

          • Posted By: Valerie1972 @ 09/18/2008 6:27:48 PM

            Oh, I do hold hands with my partner and will kiss her in public within reason. We live in a large city where you do see it. We don't make out or put ourselves in a situation that would make others or more importantly ourselves uncomfortable though. I don't want to see anyone all groping all over eachother in public male/female or same sex. But, we feel free enought to show affection when warrented. Yes, I have seen the movie. It was very sad at parts.

        • Posted By: bdhotwheel @ 09/18/2008 4:59:26 PM

          So you agree there is a homosexual agenda out there cramming Gay sex down our conservative throats? Right?

          • Posted By: Valerie1972 @ 09/18/2008 6:17:28 PM

            I don't agree that it is an agenda specifically out there to convert people into gays. I belive the media focus and glorification of sex in general (just happens to gay sex at the moment) is not necessary.

  • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 9:50:32 PM

    Sorry about the typos. This site hates Firefox.

  • Posted By: SChampagne @ 09/18/2008 4:16:54 PM

    That's funny PresidentSupporter.
    Change everything you said about homosexuality to blacks.
    And let's go back two hundred years.

    Irony, much?

    • Posted By: PresidentSupporter @ 09/18/2008 4:19:54 PM

      Don't you dare compare gays to blacks, don't even do it. That is an absurd comparison and you know it. A person's ethnicity is not a choice. Sperm and eggs can't get together and decide what they want to be like.

      People who choose a lifestyle should never, ever compare their lives to minorities that have suffered. I've lost all respect for any of your comments after that line of thinking.

      • Posted By: NJ to Miami @ 09/18/2008 4:48:52 PM

        Are you saying Gay people CHOOSE homosexuality but straight people are BORN Heterosexuals? That is ridiculous and prejudice. Not even the Pope agrees with you.

        • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:47:07 PM

          who's the pope, and what's he got to do with it. Dont you know how to recognize a choice when you see it.

      • Posted By: erutanjaxon @ 09/18/2008 4:33:55 PM

        While being black and being gay are two different things (unless you are black and gay), the bigotry and discrimination is the same. Only difference is, America is overcoming racism, and there are laws for civil rights, to fight discrimination. Homosexuals still face many hardships, and are still denied civil liberties that black people have already been granted. To try to say they are separate issues only continues to push separation, and discrimination. Black people have already been down this road with having rights denied. I would think they should be able to see what homosexuals have to currently go through in trying to obtain our own equal rights.

  • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 6:30:02 PM

    Here's the key.........what these people are running from is judgement. You hear it all the time, "dont judge me". If you dont have any responsibility, then you cannot be judged. Problem is, when you turn over the things which you are untimately responsible for, like your choices, then someone else gets to make those choices for you. So I guess they dont have choices..........but that was thier decision. You give up your choices when you decide to believe in a lie.

    • Posted By: dosers @ 09/18/2008 8:04:25 PM

      uhum... HERE is the key; From their perspective, my friend, you are the liar, making the wrong (and quite bigoted) choice.
      Who gives you the right to judge them? Heck, judge ANYbody? Your good book? You do realize, christianity is one of many religions out there, and there thankfully are a lot of atheists peppered in as well. But wait, they are all liars, ALL making a choice, and ALL to be judged, ey? haha

      • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:39:05 PM

        are you saying that we are not responsible for our own choices then

  • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 9:21:16 PM

    ...and if monogamy is all that is needed to fight the AIDS epidemic, then society should sanction gay marriage, because marry encourages monogamy.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:32:15 PM

      the article wasn't about aids or the spread thereof, the article was about lonely gay folks and who they could play bingo with.

  • Posted By: BostonMan @ 09/18/2008 5:56:00 PM

    Can anyone give a good reason that I should respect an individual that practices a deviant lifestyle? Until the mid 90's the American Psychiatric Society recognize homosexuality as a mental disorder. Of course, they have since be enlightened (pressured). Homosexuality is a giving of one's self over to tendency, must as a rapist would. After all, he is simply expressing his sexuality. It is absurd to think any sexual behavior that violates the Word of God (oops, I am sorry we are not expected to believe in God, let alone His Word) will result in anything positive. While millions continue to suffer and thousands die each year from ungodly sexual practices the homosexual community demands their rights to continue to practice their sexual abnormalities i.e. anal/oral sex

    The Center for Disease Control reports another 60,000 men infected with AIDS last year. That same report reported that one in every four adults in New York City has a sexually transmitted disease. The result of ungodly, safe sex practices.

    While anyone can justify to themselves something they chose to do it doesn't make it right.... ever.
    I believe that homosexuality is the end result of several decisions to practice unhealthy sexual behavior regardless of where one started.

    I have spent the last 29 years helping the poor, the aged and yes, even homosexuals in need. I will continue to do so. However that does not mean I will ever accept their lifestyle as normal. It has ended in so many dying or carrying an infectious disease until their death it would absurd for me to believe otherwise.

    By the way, I have been faithfully married to my wife, we have raised five healthy children and been responsible adults to our community. Barring a tainted blood transfusion, there is an infinitesimal chance I will ever get AIDS because of my faithfulness to my children and my wife. Nor will I face my final years alone as I have several other family members, born of my mother and father, who are more than willing to care for me.

    Sincerely,


    Jack Driscoll

    • Posted By: fluffy II @ 09/18/2008 9:30:02 PM

      Jack, your tone is rather arrogant and self-righteous. A believer in God must always be humble.

      Yes, it's admirable to be faithful to one's spouse and fortunate to be cared for by family members, but you are trumpeting this before the public as though God has already given this to you and in a way, putting down people who may not have that benefit, may not be so fortunate..

      Please be humble and thankful of what you already have.

    • Posted By: dosers @ 09/18/2008 6:38:01 PM

      Jack, it would be very interesting to see, assuming you had another child, if he or she turned out 'deviant' - that is, gay. What would you do? Ask your good lord to 'fix' him/her? Brainwash him/her to except jesus, sorry, heterosexuality in his/her life - (causing her to completely breakdown later)/
      Oh, sorry, that's right. That could NEVER happen to you as the sin of being Gay is a lifestyle choice... riiiiiight. Wow. I hope people of other countries aren't reading this or they'll have yet another laugh on the good ole US...

    • Posted By: NerosSoldier @ 09/18/2008 6:09:34 PM

      Actually they removed homosexuality as a disorder in 1973, shortly after the gay civil rights movement started.

      • Posted By: boundtobond @ 09/18/2008 6:35:06 PM

        You've raised five healthy children? What about their mental health? You don'at even have your facts "straight".

  • Posted By: Pagan @ 09/18/2008 7:30:48 PM

    This is a great eye-opener. Even for those who refuse to see the facts. Gay men and women are three times more likely to live alone. The reason for this can be debated for years but the fact remains, they will live alone. Which means they will rely more on public assistance as they age.
    Same-sex couples also have no legal recognition by law, which means they will not be able to receive inheritance or benefits when their partner dies. Picture grandma living on the streets after grandpa dies and you get the idea.
    Married couples, regardless of orientation, are more likely to 1) Have the same and monogamous partner, which reduces the risk of any sexually transmitted disease. 2) Still have their partner later in life, which will help with day-to-day responsibilities. (Not you) and 3) Have kids, who will, most likely, take care of them in their ???golden??? years. (Also, instead of you)
    But no, lets continue to deny same-sex couples the same rights as married couples. Because that???s what 49 states in America have chosen to do, deny rights offered to others. So, when your surrounded by 80 year-old men and women who can only go steady and have to choose between medicine and food, I'd like to you to remember today.

    • Posted By: getthepoint @ 09/18/2008 9:25:16 PM

      Why are we dragging grandma and grandpa into the picture.......They got to be grandma and grandpa through a heterosexual relationship, probably with each other. They dont fit in this picture. With regard to Married couples, regardless of orientation and the benefits thereof, you must be kidding. While it is possible for a homosexual couple to remain constant to thier commitment to one another, and they may still have thier partner later in life, they are severly hampered in the area of having children. Without the help of a "third party" it cannot happen. After all, that's what this article is all about......seeking help from a third party. If the homosexual lifestyle is so correct, let it exist on its own merits.

      Married couples, regardless of orientation, are more likely to 1) Have the same and monogamous partner, which reduces the risk of any sexually transmitted disease. 2) Still have their partner later in life, which will help with day-to-day responsibilities. (Not you) and 3) Have kids, who will, most likely, take care of them in their ???golden??? years. (Also, instead of you) Again, the benefi

  • Posted By: seti2008 @ 09/18/2008 8:15:28 PM

    getthepoint, when it comes to contracting AIDS in the US, straight women are right behind gay men, with lesbians far behind both gay men and straights of both sexes. Perhaps we should ban straight sex as a disease causing agent. Further, if AIDS is God's gift to homosexuals, why have lesbians been left out? Lesbians do not contract AIDS from lesbians sex. The few that have it are intravenous drug users or have slept with men. The operative words here are "slept with men."

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