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  • Posted By: Mark Steven Zuelke @ 09/21/2008 4:16:19 PM

    At the very top of this story there is a comment about a crucial 3am call concerning a monumental international crisis. McCain answered. He is qualified, way more than most imagine, according to this story.
    I encourage everyone to vote for John McCain!

    • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:39:07 PM

      McCain answered by advocating for a policy which could well eventually result in war between Russia and the United States- the conflict that we spent the entire Cold War trying to avoid. Are you high? That's like saying, "I think I'm qualified to be President 'cause I heard a noise outside and answered with a blast from my shotgun."

  • Posted By: grej @ 09/21/2008 9:38:57 PM

    If the world ever plunges into a world war, you can look to the east for the cause my friend.

  • Posted By: bonanno1983 @ 09/21/2008 5:21:34 PM

    You guys are confused. The real picture is not portrayed from this article. First of all, I'd like to say that you can't believe anyone who says someone says something but doesn't give that person's name. There is no way to validate it, therefore it should be taken as a grain of salt.

    Secondly, the Georgian/Russian problem is a Communist/Democracy problem rather than a McCain/Saakashvili agenda as this article makes it out to be. The fact of the matter is that Russia was trying to attack Georgia because Georgia is a democracy and Russia is a Communist country. We stood up for Georgia because we stick up for all nations whom are and are trying to become a free-democratic country. That is how it has always been and will be how it shall always remain!

    • Posted By: Froggie76 @ 09/21/2008 5:57:50 PM

      Bonanno, ... to describe today's Russia as communist is no just ideolically dumb, but also factually wrong ... Russia political elites may have an authoritarian streak, but that's hardly new and Washington /US elites can hardly give lessons in ethical or moral behaviour when it comes to respecting the wishes of foreign countries ... As for their economic system, Russia is definitely capitalistic and market-based. Transparency and the rule of law is certainly a problem they got to work on, but here again, who are we trying to fool ? What about Congress and K-Street ? What about Wall Street and greedy deregulation of the US financial markets ?
      Finally, when it comes to Georgia, Russia and the US, it's not a fight for/againt freedom of people, it's about power politics : the right for the georgian political establishment to decide what their country line is ... for Russia to ensure that neighbouring countries ("the near-abroad") do not endanger their national security interests, while drawing a line the sand to US ideological expansionnism ... for the US, it's about the folly to believe they are an all-powerful Imperial power, that can re-frame countries political affiliation wherever and whenever they see fit ... this madness has to strop before a real blodbath ensures !! never heard about respect for others and humble foreign policy anyone ?

      • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:34:32 PM

        Ooo, somebody besides myself who doesn't want to plunge the entire world into war. Thanks so much.

    • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:33:01 PM

      Friend, if you think that Russia is communist, and you think that the way Harry Truman ran the country is the way we should always run the country, you terrify me.

  • Posted By: grej @ 09/21/2008 9:33:28 PM

    Ok USS Augusta, no comparison is perfect.
    I could use Lincoln meeting with Jefferson Davis after Fort Sumter to get
    his "side of the story", thereby maybe avoiding a war which ended up costing hundreds of thousands of
    lives. What's at stake in Georgia is principle. You can never sacrifice principle to expediency.

  • Posted By: Dan from SD @ 09/21/2008 8:57:57 PM

    andthen

    If you think McCain votes the party line you are either a lair or totally uninformed. He has pissed off the Republicans so many times it's legend, now your boy Obama he is another story straight liberal vote straight down the line.

    Get a clue.

    • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:30:35 PM

      Hate to say it, but if McCain supporters are seriously going to start accusing Obama folk of being liars, that's a little hard to swallow. Because the number of sheer lies that have come out of the McCain camp in the last two weeks has been almost historic. As for McCain's stance, it's true that he used to be a bit of a bipartisan rogue. But now he's running for president, and he's taken a much more conservative stance on almost very major issue than he ever has, presumably in order to energize the GOP base. So go ahead and disagree with me on foreign policy. But cut it out with the insults.

  • Posted By: grej @ 09/21/2008 9:17:50 PM

    "What worries me is that Senator McCain did not talk to senior Russian officials," says Simes. "I always thought if you're a combat pilot, you'd want to understand the enemy. But neither he nor his advisers are interested in getting the Russian side of the story."

    **********************************************
    That's a little like McCain meeting with the leaders of Israel
    and then Simes suggesting that he and his advisors meet with
    Hezbollah to get their "side of the story".

    • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:21:42 PM

      I'm sorry, but if you are going to compare Russia to Hezbollah, you demonstrate the very reason that I can never support McCain or the Neoconservatives. The only thing they have in common is that American nationalists don't like them If that's the extent of a leader's international knowledge, that leader is going to hand us another Iraq. The Republicans have been letting raw emotion run the country for years now, without a scrap or common sense, and that has to end.

  • Posted By: USS Augusta @ 09/21/2008 9:16:58 PM

    I honestly don't get this thing where McCain is assumed to have the edge in foreign policy. He's a nationalist and a neoconservative, and that means it doesn't matter how much experience he has. What matters is emotion- it couldn't be more obvious that he's of the exact same foreign policy stock as President Bush. He responds to foreign crisis with the neocons' special blend fear, anger, hate, and idealism, the same thing that got us into Iraq, and the international situation is going to further deteriorate over the next four years with this man at the helm. The United States is not in a military, economic, or political position to provoke Russia. Let's get emotion out of the White House and replace it with reason.

  • Posted By: andthen @ 09/21/2008 8:01:01 PM

    Difficult to read this article, which offers a tepid critique of McCain but enforces his profoundly dishonest self-prsentation as a reformer, since he has, for most substantive policiy issues voted pure party lines for the last 6 years or so, and is currently waging a campaign of breath-taking, even soul sickening dishonesty and bad-faith. So while I appreciate an analysis of what might be considered irresponsible and reckless foreign policy judgement, I think you do the political discourse, even the spiritual health, of the country a disservice by collaborating in the furtherance of McCain's straight-shooting maverick image ...

  • Posted By: andthen @ 09/21/2008 8:00:46 PM

    Difficult to read this article, which offers a tepid critique of McCain but enforces his profoundly dishonest self-prsentation as a reformer, since he has, for most substantive policiy issues voted pure party lines for the last 6 years or so, and is currently waging a campaign of breath-taking, even soul sickening dishonesty and bad-faith. So while I appreciate an analysis of what might be considered irresponsible and reckless foreign policy judgement, I think you do the political discourse, even the spiritual health, of the country a disservice by collaborating in the furtherance of McCain's straight-shooting maverick image ...

  • Posted By: grej @ 09/21/2008 7:29:00 PM

    It disturbs me that some are referring to Saakashvili as a warmonger because
    of what happened in South Ossetia.

    Last time I checked, Georgia was an sovereign independent country.
    As such does it not have the right to make decisions to enter in
    to treaties and international alliances(without outside interference)?
    Surely it does.

    Saakashvili called for the admission of Georgia to NATO. NATO is a defensive alliance.
    South Ossetia has been internationally recognized as belonging to Georgia.

    Russian forces not only occupy that territory but part of the independent
    sovereign nation of Georgia itself. This is an acceptable situation?

    It is not we (the US) that Poland, the Ukraine and Georgia fear but
    Russia. There a reason for that. What kind of country would we
    be if we allowed one country to intimidate and occupy another
    country, especially one that is a friend and beyond that, strategically
    important?

    It is the Russians who are the warmongers and aggressors.
    Indeed, if we allow this Russian behaviour to go unchallenged, then
    we are inviting much greater problems on down the road.

    We seek peace-a legitimate lasting peace that respects the borders
    of every sovereign nation.
    People in different places around the globe are yearning, struggling
    and in some cases fighting for the same rights as we enjoy here.
    The freedoms we enjoy as Americans don???t belong just to us-
    they are universal and reside in the hearts, minds and souls of
    every human being. Should we not help this endeavor where we can?

    No, we are not the warmongers, we are in fact the freedom-bearers,
    indeed the peace makers.

    Where people such as Putin and Iran???s Ahmadinejad seek to bring
    conflict and discord to the world we should be ready to stand up
    and aid those who they would seek to dominate or destroy.

    We must always be the best of friends to our friends and an imposing
    adversary to those that would do harm.
    The words of our forefathers and founder would ring hollow indeed
    if we adopt the attitude that they only apply to us or that they don???t require
    every effort on our part to help within internationally valid means to
    secure these rights for those beyond our shores.

    In the words of St. Francis: ???Where there is despair, let us bring hope

    where there is darkness, let us bring light.???

  • Posted By: TZAZ @ 09/21/2008 7:21:05 PM

    This sounds to me like the kind of leader we should support. Has it slipped your mind that South Ossetia is part of Georgia, recognized as such by the UN. What we have here are the timid hearts at work again , they just will not stand and be counted. McCain will do fine as President he has integrity something rare among today's politicos.

  • Posted By: bereal @ 09/21/2008 7:09:45 PM

    So know Newsweek has the ability to read McCain's mind and know what he would do as president. Newsweek should change their name to Psychic or Obama's Endorser. Owen Matthews must be related to Chris Matthews, another Obama butt kisser, so there goes your credibility and objectivity.

  • Posted By: Roameo @ 09/21/2008 5:17:12 PM

    Forget (if you can) McCain's confusing of Shia and Sunni, his belief that Pakistan and Iraq share a border, and that Iran is training Al-Qaeda. His wild declaration that we are all Georgians and his call to immediately rush Georgia into NATO set us up to engage nuclear-loaded Russia militarily. Imagine McCain, who is, like Bush and Cheney, easily frightened and prone to excessive reactions to that fear (which he transforms quickly, in accordance with stereotypical male training, into aggressive anger), as President McCain. His support of plenary presidential powers, coupled with a pre-emptive war policy and a clarion call to "roll back rogue states," makes him one very dangerous prospect for president. The pre-emptive war policy is for cowards only: "They scare me so! Let's do evil unto them before they do evil unto US." McCain, if elected, will have us dangerously at war on multiple fronts for his four disastrously bloody years. McCain, who has long lived in the military shadows of his more-heralded grandfather and father, wants to eclipse them as military leaders. Trust me, peace is the last thing McCain really wants and, if elected, the last thing we'll see.

  • Posted By: CivilAid @ 09/21/2008 5:13:49 PM

    In Gereral I do agree with the article, the Dimitry simes of the Nixon center... is not very trust worthy to me... I know that guys and he's not very smart... no.

  • Posted By: CivilAid @ 09/21/2008 5:12:41 PM

    "It's not surprising that Saakashvili, 41, known to Georgians by the nickname Misha"

    - It's not a "nickname" It's a short version iof a name Michael.

    Dimitri Simes, Well Dimitri, like any Russian... he has he's views... so what? Does it make him more coorect than the others?


    " Saakashvili's tough talk about Moscow may ignite McCain's imagination, but his brinksmanship in August led to the rout of Georgia's armed forces and the worst U.S.-Russia standoff since the cold war. Simes says that "

    - Well Russia DID invade his country and started killing civillians... so what the president of Georgia should have been "thankful" to Putin?

    "More than 500 people were hospitalized"

    - hat is veryu inacurate and it did happen only because the lack of any basic experience of opposition... The problem is that the opposition was the who were really scary. Yhe old mafia people, that have been jaied, old croocks and the corrupt people that were fired got all together... Russia did also play some role in all that and yes, it did happen like that, but in the end this hapopens in the country that has Free media, free oposition, democracy and problems. This country does have all that and you all know that the Democracy does look like chaos sometimes...

    He never called him "Liliputin..." it was in Russian media, but I have NEVER heared anything like that from him on any media.

    "Russia plainly wanted to lure Saakashvili into a war he couldn't win. So why did he take the bait?"

    - So you REALLY belive that is is possible for a small country to avoid a war with Russia, if Russia really wants a war?!
    Here is everything:

    http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2008/aug/13/georgia?gusrc=rss&feed=networkfront

    http://www.hrw.org/english/docs/2008/08/28/georgi19712.htm

  • Posted By: Steve14 @ 09/21/2008 4:23:20 PM

    Once again a foreign lobby--this time a slick Georgian foreign lobby--is directing American foreign policy for its own interest and against America's interest. John McCain is naively drinking the Georgia lobby's coolaid. He has help from his staff: McCain's top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, formerly worked as a lobbyist for Georgia, and is surely bamboozling his gullible boss. Should our President and his aides serve foreign interests? I have a better idea. Our President and all Presidential staff should be 100 percent loyal to America and only America. Those who serve foreign interests against the American interest should be run out of Washington on a rail.

  • Posted By: valeriemcgill @ 09/20/2008 6:41:37 PM

    I love Misha from Georgia. I love how he talked to the world after Russia attacked and basically scolded alot of nations. I love straight talkers whether I agree with them or not. At least they are honest and you know where you stand with them. That's why I like Sarah Palin and why I can't stand to listen to Obama being interviewed. He acts like he's always trying to come up with an answer that will please as many people as possible so he can get as many votes as possible rather than just answering the questions honestly and from the heart.

    • Posted By: Virginavoter @ 09/21/2008 11:28:51 AM

      Are you kidding me...Sarah Palin has told nothing but lies, and it has been documented MANY times over...the bridge to nowhere, I didn't blink when asked to be McCain's running mate, selling the jet on eBay, Alaska providing 20% of US energy, not accepting earmarks, she is a world class champion liar. She and McCain will turn this country into a strip mine and start wars with anyone....Thanks, but no thanks! I have had enough !

      • Posted By: Mark Steven Zuelke @ 09/21/2008 4:22:17 PM

        "Virginavoter"?...just click your heels together, you have had the ability to leave Oz all along, right there on your feet...just click them...click them...farewell................

    • Posted By: GiveBack @ 09/21/2008 12:01:55 PM

      Actually, what Obama does is 'thinks' before he speaks and acts, and ALWAYS requests a different perspective to his point of view so he can see both sides of the issue, both worthy characteristic I definitely want in the next President, as opposed to the "shoot first, aim later" approach of Bush and McCain.

      • Posted By: LynnPA @ 09/21/2008 2:37:37 PM


        Another Obama misrepresentation of the Facts. You can check it out for yourself. Just posted today in Newsweek, on the home page.

        http://www.newsweek.com/id/160179

        Obama's Social Security Whopper
        He tells Social Security recipients their money would now be in the stock market under McCain's plan. False.

        The account outlines how Obama's claims are FALSE and a misrepresentation of the truth.

    • Posted By: hermiron @ 09/20/2008 9:25:24 PM

      wonderful statment...i`m always thrilled with people who live by their heart...

  • Posted By: Steve14 @ 09/21/2008 4:15:08 PM

    Once again a foreign lobby--this time a slick Georgian lobby--is manipulating American foreign policy for its own interests and against American interests. John McCain is naively drinking the foreign lobby's coolaid. His top foreign policy adviser, Randy Scheunemann, even worked as a lobbyist for Georgia! Do the American people really want a president whose top staffers are loyal to foreign governments? I have a better idea: our President, and our President's top advisers, should be 100 percent loyal to America, and only America.

  • Posted By: HiloJohn @ 09/21/2008 3:04:37 PM

    Anna & Dan,

    It seems McCain tends to be more impulsive than analytical. Good pilots are quick to react after analysis. McCain???s record as a pilot is well documented.

    5 crashed planes - one on the way to an Army-Navy game. 20 combat hours. Some vets have speculated he also caused the loss of American life in Vietnam by talking impulsively.
    (source: http://www.vietnamveteransagainstjohnmccain.com/cin_mccain_lost_five_u.htm)

    View the videos at ===>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KuSDwwKLYr8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5oMHr85Uk4

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GDWLrFg7h3M

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhhrjtrMpM8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pBYFRRk5aQU

    McCain believes in making sure no man is left behind ===>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AXjWguoFbpI


    Bias against McCain in the media ===>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0gh6r5ALVMo


    McCain's Straight talk ===>

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ioy90nF2anI

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GEtZlR3zp4c


    Mission Accomplished by George Bush

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-GJUGUYsm68

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CFijzDyJnVE


    McCain's Mission Accomplished

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FltLzeyACzY

    Saakashvili just learned the Straight Talk Express become the BS Express.

  • Posted By: HiloJohn @ 09/21/2008 2:43:44 PM

    Better check your facts on the combat stuff for McCain. 5 crashed planes - one on the way to an Army Navy game and just 20 hours of combat time.

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