When Atheists Attack

This is a good article. Admittedly I'm an Obama supporter, but look at it this way: if there were a general election tomorrow between Sarah Palin and John McCain, who would win? If Palin won it would not surprise me at all. And that is simply astounding.

As this article points out, not only does she have very little actual experience in office, she is simply not well-versed on our federal government or on world politics in general. It's simply not her background. Previous candidates who could be accused of lack of exprience (i.e. Quayle) had, at least, an unarguably informed understanding of how federal government works. And I think if you're being objective, you have to recognize that Obama outdoes Palin on this score by a long shot, as would anyone who has spent time in congress. You may not agree with his thoughts about government, but you can't deny he is versed in a grounded understanding of how government operates.

So...though I don't agree with McCain's policies, I certainly would not claim it is irresponsible to put him in office. Palin is a much different story. Still...again, if there were an election tomorrow, with Palin and McCain as candidates, I would not doubt Sarah Palin would get a significant percentage of votes. And if it were a Republican primary situation, I would bet a good deal of money that she would win by a large percentage. That's truly sad.

More thoughtful?...maybe like a man who has never led anything (other than a campaign) and a man that thinks that FDR was president in 1929, and that Americans were watching FDR speeches on television after the stock market crash?

Reads like someone still disappointed that Stevenson lost to Eisenhower in 52.

When the unrelenting attacks by the Communist Democratic Elite continue against Governor Palin's family, friends, love of country, religion and any other perceived garbage dreamt up by the Gray Lady and its' lefty loon alias, it lifts the hearts of true USA God and Country votes to only cast their vote for the Republicans. Scared are we about a McCain VICTORY?

In his obsession to become the next President of the US, McCain has shown that he considers self above country. HIs choice of Palin is an insult and there is no question that she is completely unqualified. There is little mention of her activities with the Alaska Independence Party. Was she hoping to become the first President of Alaska before she was lured with the possibility of becoming president of the US? Scary!!!!!!!.

One more thing, which I feel will greatly add to what Sam Harris wrote:

BILL MAHER: It???s extremely dangerous. It warps people???s thinking. The Bush administration has 150 graduates of Pat Robertson???s law school. That???s right, Pat Robertson, the man who believes that hurricanes are caused by gay people.

Monica Goodling, who was a very high official in the Justice Department, she was 33 years old, and she was given the job of evaluating all of the U.S. attorneys, all people who are older than her, with more experience, who really know what they???re doing. She graduates from Pat Robertson???s law school and, at the age of 33, is given this job. Why? Because she and her boss, Alberto Gonzales, and his boss, George Bush, belong to the same cult.

Yes, it???s the same cult, but basically what qualified her for this was that they all believe that this space God flew up bodily to Heaven and that???s going to save their ass, OK? These are not qualifications for high government office, and that???s just one example. Religion warps???

JOE SCARBOROUGH: So are you saying that Christians that believe, as I believe, that there was a Jesus, that he was born, that he died, and he rose again, should we be disqualified from public service because we belong to this cult?

BILL MAHER: You shouldn???t be disqualified from public service, but it shouldn't be the most important qualification. And it is, apparently, in the Bush administration.

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Of course not. But that???s about George Bush; that???s not about Jesus Christ.

BILL MAHER: OK, but George Bush???

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Come on. You and I both know it???s not about Jesus. It???s about loyalty to George Bush. That???s the number-one qualification for working in the Bush administration.

BILL MAHER: You asked me what I had against religion. I???m telling you. It warps the opinions of people who run the world and the people who believe it enable those people to run the world so badly. Why is it going so badly in Iraq? Basically, because there are two sects, the Shiites and the Sunnis, and they have a quarrel over who succeeded Muhammad in the seventh century. That???s why???

JOE SCARBOROUGH: Take that up with Shiites and Sunnis. You don???t see Christians going around shooting each other in America, do you?

BILL MAHER: I???m just making the point, Joe, that religion warps people???s thinking. Until we get over these, I???m sorry, yes, childhood myths, we can???t think straight and we can???t solve our problems in a functional way, in a way that involves rational thinking. We are steering the ship of state by cutting open a chicken and reading the entrails, like the Romans did, instead of using a compass, which would be science.

The following quotes seem quite appropriate:

???The American people need no course in philosophy or political science or church history to know that God should not be made into a celestial party chairman. To most of us, the manipulative invoking of religion to advance a politician or a party is frightening and divisive. The American people will tolerate religious leaders taking positions for or against candidates ... But the American people are leery about large religious organizations, powerful churches, or synagogue groups engaging in such activities -- again, not as a matter of law or doctrine, but because our innate wisdom and democratic instinct teaches us these things are dangerous.???
~ Mario Cuomo, address, University of Notre Dame, September 13, 1984, quoted from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom
???Way down deep the American people are afraid of an entangling relationship between formal religions -- or whole bodies of religious belief -- and government. Apart from constitutional law and religious doctrine, there is a sense that tells us it's wrong to presume to speak for God or to claim God's sanction of our particular legislation and his rejection of all other positions. Most of us are offended when we see religion being trivialized by its appearance in political throw-away pamphlets.???
~ Mario Cuomo, address, University of Notre Dame, September 13, 1984, quoted from Albert J Menendez and Edd Doerr, The Great Quotations on Religious Freedom

Sarah Palin is a dangerous delusional ego-driven opportunist, she crafts her speech like any demagogue would for whatever the occasion. Sound familiar? The time that Alexander Hamilton warned about in the Federalist Papers, 84 is upon us:

"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights."

What is needed is another Cincinnatus who will lay down the powers that the Executive office now wrongfully commands and is at odds with natural rights, not to have a President who wants more power and will not blink to use without any intelligence. President George Washington warned to ???Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism???. On the issue of a electing McCain/Palin, it will not be about an honorable administration as public servants, but their delusional ego.

Sarah Palin is a dangerous ego-driven opportunist, she crafts her speeches like any demagogue would for whatever the occasion. Sound familiar? The time that Alexander Hamilton warned about in the Federalist Papers, 84 is upon us:

"I go further, and affirm that bills of rights, in the sense and to the extent in which they are contended for, are not only unnecessary in the proposed Constitution, but would even be dangerous. They would contain various exceptions to powers not granted; and, on this very account, would afford a colorable pretext to claim more than were granted. For why declare that things shall not be done which there is no power to do? Why, for instance, should it be said that the liberty of the press shall not be restrained, when no power is given by which restrictions may be imposed? I will not contend that such a provision would confer a regulating power; but it is evident that it would furnish, to men disposed to usurp, a plausible pretense for claiming that power. They might urge with a semblance of reason, that the Constitution ought not to be charged with the absurdity of providing against the abuse of an authority which was not given, and that the provision against restraining the liberty of the press afforded a clear implication, that a power to prescribe proper regulations concerning it was intended to be vested in the national government. This may serve as a specimen of the numerous handles which would be given to the doctrine of constructive powers, by the indulgence of an injudicious zeal for bills of rights."

What is needed is another Cincinnatus who will lay down the powers that the Executive office now wrongfully commands and is at odds with natural rights, not to have a President who wants more power and will not blink to use without any intelligence. President George Washington warned to ???Guard against the impostures of pretended patriotism???. On the issue of a electing McCain/Palin, it will not be about an honorable administration as public servants, but their delusional ego.

Yes bajan man. That's the kind of foreign policy experience the former Governor of Texas had when the ignorant masses elected him twice and watched as he took us to war, based on a lie, against a country that had nothing to do with 911. While there are many, many wonderful and intelligent people in this country, I am afraid that the same ignorant masses, more worried about who wins Dancing with the Stars or who gets kicked off some island, will again elect another Republican to the whitehouse.

I'm an European, but Palin's words "You can't blink," really scare me, because the US and the world really needs a US leader who can think rationally. When faced with tough decisions, you have to blink, many times, and think carefully! Obama's governing résumé may be thin, but it's clear that he is capable of careful and rational decision making. I'm not sure the same can be said about McCain or Palin.

Very good article. It illustrates exactly what is wrong with our politics. Idiots like ronnie8365, who obviously has no idea who caused the financial crisis but is perfectly willing to blame the Democrates anyway, genuinely scare me. Are we really that ignorant as a country? What we need is mandatory education in high school which teaches about the role of our government, economics, international affairs. Call it Informed Voter 101. Otherwise we end up with these morons who figure the constitution is a great place to enshrine homophobia and that a president smarter than you is a bad thing. God save us!

Why your party loses on every issue......the only time your party is happy is when America is losing and they can score political points at the country's expense.......the democrats cause the financial mess we're in and then do absoloutely nothing.......why because #1 they caused it and are scared to death the ral truth is going to come out ...plus how many democrats in this fiasco made millions and are living in the lap of luxury now even though they were caught cooking the books!! people miserable much like you harley .....equals happiness for democrats

http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-89831

Sarah Palin Rap Song for All to have a good laugh, left and right side....

hey harley get your hand out of the cheetos bag and and get up and wash that orange *** off your dick......

Yes we're the fear mongers...........here's a little snippet of this article http://www.huffingtonpost.com/naomi-wolf/the-battle-plan-ii-sarah_b_128393.html from Naomi wolf ...who evidently has been driven to insanity by the rise of Palin and the decline of her messiah

"Am I trying to scare you? I am. I am trying to scare you to death and ask you to scare your Republican and independent friends most of all. How do you know when it is war on citizens? When there are mass arrests, journalists are jailed, the opposition is infiltrated, rights are stripped and leaders start to ignore the rule of law."

and Harley you're an idiot

Floridave @ 09/23/2008 11:02:49 PM posted "If you really were a doctor you would know that rape kits are medical supplies and are covered by the victims insurer. Uninsured victims that need rape kits are paid for by the government, usually city or county health departments."

Floridave is, at best, contradicting himself. When Sarah Palin was the mayor of Wasilla, she cut the funds that paid for the rape kits from her city budget. Yet Floridave is actually trying to defend Palin's decision to cut the government funding by arguing that local governments pay for those rape kits out of the very funds that Palin cut. His callousness is almost as unbelievable as his contradictions. He goes on to post: "Isn't $1200 kind of high for a rape kit? I don't blame Sarah for not paying for them. That's WAY too high for some swabs and a pamphlet...That's why we have insurance, Harley"
Floridave complains that "the left" tries to make him look "callous for even suggesting that the kit shouldn't be free... like some sort of a parting gift for rape victims"; drawing the analogy that "when innocent people get shot... is that care supposed to be free, too?" Floridave apparently does not realize that no one has any need to make him look callous; he does that all by himself when he dismisses a government-funded forensic kit as "a parting gift" for rape victims. He apparently doesn't understand or doesn't want to acknowlege that shooting victims don't get billed by the state for the subsequent police investigation, but under Palin, rape victims did. It takes an amazingly callous individual like Floridave or Palin to want to make a woman traumatized by rape pay out of her own pocket for the criminal investigation. Even most insured women have some deductible that has to be met in their policies, and with the kind of high-deductibles that many middle-class workers are financially forced into, there's no guarantee that any given policy would cover most or even part of the rape kit. And none of that even applies to the well over 45 million uninsureds in the US, many of whom are working-women living in single-earner families. Of course, none of that could possibly matter to someone like Floridave.

Looking back at what what he's posted here, the term callous just doesn't do him justice; what Floridave is contrarily arguing with himself is truly twisted and sick.

Hmmm let's see gaff or I'm trying to get fired

Barak ain't takin my shotgun. a...this after calling for gun bans when he was running for pres

were not building any more coal plants...must be the real plan because Obama said he would pursue clean coal technology

I wouldn't have ran that ad.......About McCains computer skills you know because he can't type because the vietnameese tortured him...

Franklin Roosevelt got on TV and told the american people about the depression...all I can say is...????????????

and Palin is the idiot???

Sam Harris is exactly what America is in greatest need of at this time. Reason and intellectual processes not fettered by the blind and imbecilic faith that most American's wager their future upon. I truly do not care what idiotic notions of God and/or afterlife you believe in. That, my friends, is your own choice and you must live by your own beliefs ... that is, until your beliefs get in the way of those of us who do not believe in the "end of days" or the wrath of God. Because there is no God. Just our childish wish to be re-united with the dead and to live forever in some cloudy apartment complex in a magical and imaginary heaven. I am afraid that our great experiment of democracy, if taken over by the childhood dreams of the many, will be a total loss and the founding fathers will weep in their graves ... but not literally, of course. They are dead. And so will all of us be. This life is heaven and ddeath itself is hell. Wake up sheeple. Use your brains!