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  • Posted By: totallybaffled @ 09/22/2008 8:00:07 PM

    Thank you, Mr. Harris, for saying everything that has been spinning around in my brain but which I have been unable to state so clearly and thoroughly. The arrogance... pride, even, of their ignorance and mediocrity makes my blood boil. Right after Sarah Palin was chosen, I responded to an online article that I simply could not grasp the concept of choosing a leader based primarily on their "sameness" to oneself. I don't want someone "just like me" as Vice President. I want someone who will inspire me and amaze me with their intellect, knowledge and wisdom. I'm not a hillbilly, but I'm certainly not smart enough for the job, and am not ashamed to admit it. Very few people are equipped for a job of that magnitude, and Sarah Palin will NEVER be in that "elite" group. Never. Being intellectually ordinary is not a shameful trait. But for Palin to be so blindly confident in her readiness and righteous "rightness" when her credentials are, in fact, so obviously substandard, is not only shameful and delusional, but dangerous and terrifying.

    • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/23/2008 1:13:44 AM

      Palin is the VP pick, on the Repub ticket and is the Governor of a State. The Presidential candidate on the Dem side has no qualifications to be President, but you refuse to see that, because you are ensnared in his Hollywood appeal. You do not have to be seduced by your candidate, you just have to agree with most of their policy positions. And you have to deem them ready to lead. Obama is a "Manchurian Candidate", and is not ready to actually lead this country.

    • Posted By: Searchin4Turth @ 09/22/2008 9:04:42 PM

      Eighty percent of the people of Alaska say you are WRONG and they know Palin. You, obviuosly, only kknow what the Obamacon tells you.

  • Posted By: darrelcc @ 09/23/2008 12:38:03 AM

    Sam Harris is an idiot. I wish these fat headed know it alls would just shut their big liberal mouths and let real American's decide for themselves who they think would be right to lead this great country. You have no right to call this woman "ignorant". Do you want to know why it is so difficult for Democrats to be elected President in this country? It is because of morons like you who we see as closed minded, elitist A-holes who think they are better than everyone else. I'd suggest you keep your forked tongue in your mouth and retire your sticky keyboard you Marxist, you are only hurting your messiah Obama by writing this garbage. Have a nice day.

    • Posted By: Dr Rick @ 09/23/2008 1:11:37 AM

      What kind of thought process leads someone to claim that Mr Harris has "no right to call [Ms Palin] ignorant" while hurling all manner of insults himself?

    • Posted By: victorloplame @ 09/23/2008 12:50:45 AM

      Your entry has given me some good insight. You are angry over people with education claiming they are smarter than you. They aren't. But don't let that anger keep you from choosing the best qualified people. We do need excellence somewhere, if not in the presidency then hopefully you would agree it should be somewhere. How else can this great country remain great?

  • Posted By: A. Nonnie Muss @ 09/22/2008 8:42:48 PM

    Mr. Harris, THANK YOU for so gracefully articulating what many of us are thinking.
    I've tried to avert my eyes from the comments but a little drifting is inevitable and I've seen Reaganin08's down here and just have to respond: First, I can't understand why it is that you think Democrats "dictate" when they govern whereas Republicans somehow govern by . . . osmosis? You haven't explained it at all. I know you think you have, but all I see in your obviously-labored comment is conclusions, not arguments. Second, your comment regarding what is "right by God" succinctly gets at what horrifies me about contemporary Republicans: I don't believe in god, and I don't like your god at all. And I honestly think it doesn't matter. Most of you seem to think it is a-ok with your god to start pointless wars, be deceptive about the reasons for war-mongering, bail out criminally greedy comrades in finance, kill animals from helicopters for fun, and so on and so forth, and some of you don't, and obviously your god isn't going to speak up about these matters anytime soon. I don't think it matters to you either, because from what I see, all Republicans share a belief that blind loyalty is far more important that reasoning.

    • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/23/2008 12:58:18 AM

      Nice speech there Pierre. By the way, Your Quiche is burning...

      You don't like my God at all? That's funny, because He Loves you. By your rant, I can tell that you are totally uneducated in spiritual matters, so you ought to read the bible before you start preaching your religion.

  • Posted By: Greggs @ 09/23/2008 12:50:36 AM

    From Wikipedia "A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own" I quote this article "we shouldn't be eager to give these people our nuclear codes". This article is a bigoted screed. Newsweek should be embarrassed. dangerously its probably not.

  • Posted By: Greggs @ 09/23/2008 12:50:14 AM

    From Wikipedia "A bigot is a person who is intolerant of opinions, lifestyles, or identities differing from his or her own" I quote this article "we shouldn't be eager to give these people our nuclear codes". This article is a bigoted screed. Newsweek should be embarrassed. dangerously they are probably not.

  • Posted By: sjakob @ 09/22/2008 8:55:47 PM

    This analysis is spot on. We should be frightened that someone with such little relevant experience might be so close to being President, but even more frightened that someone who represents the radical religious right could be there. Can Palin be trusted to respect the separation of church and state that our constitution demands? Though they have differences, to be sure, McCain and Obama are both honorable men who deserve our respect. But when the VP choices are added to the equation, the choice becomes crystal-clear; two people who could both govern, versus one who could and one giant question mark.

    • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/23/2008 12:50:03 AM

      Suppose the Religious right is "Right"! then how "radical" would they be? Separation of Church and State only says that the government can not mandate a specific religious doctrine. IT DOES NOT SAY THAT GOVERNMENT MUST DENY THE EXISTENCE OF GOD AND WAS NEVER INTENDED TO BE CONSTRUED AS SUCH.

  • Posted By: egockel @ 09/23/2008 12:48:59 AM

    give it a rest. Focus your efforts on the qualification process for Presidents and VPs rather than beating up someone that was selected. McCain too old? What's the max age for a presidential candidate? Thought so? Should a VP have xx years experience as senator/governor or only in a state in the lower 49? Again, attack the system, not the folks using it.

  • Posted By: ChuckyDee @ 09/23/2008 12:47:13 AM

    Sam: As a Small-Town Country "Bumpkin" myself, I have to say your arrogant, elitist comments are exactly why "City-slickers" such as yourself are unfit to lead from Public Office. Sarah Palin has raised a family and taught her kids self-reliance, that meat doesn't always come under plastic or from McDonalds, and that you can do great things if you really put your whole heart, soul, and passion into it. By contrast, your ideal, wordly "City -Slicker" candidate would be from that same sneering, "I'm better than you because I went to Princeton" crowd that you came from. Aren't those arrogant, well-educated, well-heeled financiers and investment bankers the same ones wholly responsible for the meltdown on Wall Street??? Did they all think they were "Smarter than the average Bear??????Not in my book. In the country, you can't just go down to the Giant or Kroger if you run out of milk in the middle of a blizzard----you have to plan ahead and, while you're at it, plan for the worst case. So don't belittle an amazing woman just because she didn't come from the same background and upbringing that you did. She shows the same temprament, tenacity, and connectedness to the earth and people that other great leaders of this country have shown, and I'd rather have HER as the understudy to the No. 1 Guy than the most worldly, experienced, and well-read No. 2 Guy to the "Never-did-a-hard-day's work-in-his-whole-life" No. 1 Guy that took over 40 years to "discover" who he is.

  • Posted By: victorloplame @ 09/23/2008 12:42:22 AM

    I think Palin is very close to what Bush was like when he was first running: particularly in attitude, values, conviction, wisdom, basic knowlege and level of experience. This is what our country wants. And since we want it, we will get it.

  • Posted By: gwenabee98 @ 09/23/2008 12:40:07 AM

    It's interesting that everyone is all up in arms over Palin's religious beliefs, yet Obama claims to be Christian as well and if that is true he would hold the same beliefs as Palin. Yet, Obama tries not to mention anything about being a Christian unless he's in the right crowd and thinks that will get him more votes. They bring up Palin's church, yet Obama was going to a church where the preacher spouted hate and venom about America; no one is questioning that fact. At least with Palin you know where she stands; Obama you don't because he can't make up his mind. That is far scarier than any logic Palin holds.

  • Posted By: karenabcde @ 09/23/2008 12:38:41 AM

    Sarah Palin has a degree from the University of Idaho. Major: Journalism-Minor: Political Science.

    Good for her. She didn't get any help from affirmative action.

    She has a degree.

    The following people have/had no degrees:

    George Washington
    Abraham Lincoln
    Harry Truman
    Bill Gates
    Steve Jobs
    Rush Limbaugh
    Michael Dell

  • Posted By: splashedwet @ 09/22/2008 10:48:47 PM

    Oh how I wish you were wrong. Unfortunately your prose is not rooted in faith but instead fact. Can America move forward past it's lethal addiction to christ and join the rest of the modern world or will it be the opposite side of the same coin the middle east is on? Sam, one day you will be remembered as one of the great thinkers/philosophers of our time. I only hope that day come sooner than later.

    • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/22/2008 11:42:37 PM

      Seriously, this has to be one of most stupid posts I have ever seen. "Lethal Addiction to Christ"? You obviously have no idea what you are talking about, and from the looks of it, I'll bet you are about 18 and wearing a Blink182 Tshirt cause you think its cool to be "Old School". Get a grip on life and some experience behind the wheel before you start telling us how to drive. In other words. Read the Bible. Understand that God and Religion are not the same thing, and that this country was founded on God, believes in God, and thanks God every day for making this nation so Great!

      • Posted By: LynnPA @ 09/23/2008 12:36:33 AM


        I am not at all a holy roller, but I agree with you.
        Splash..., had to have written one of the most stupid posts I have seen yet.

        She probably is just a young kid out of school that thinks she knows so much. Don't worry, real life will teach her a lesson.

  • Posted By: Jack Repenning @ 09/23/2008 12:36:10 AM

    Geez, man. While I completely agree with your central point:

    > What is so unnerving about the candidacy of Sarah Palin is the degree to which she represents
    > ???and her supporters celebrate???the joyful marriage of confidence and ignorance.

    ... I also share a great deal of Gov. Palin's Christian faith, and I'm having a hard time digging through your speculations as to what Christian faith actually involves. You're right, that Gov. Palin's experience and attitude are terrifyingly inadequate to the job she's running for; you might want to consider your own lack of experience and inappropriate attitude toward the things you don't understand ... especially when your speculations aren't even relevant or necessary to your quite valid point.

    Like you, I was worried to see Palin's charisma in an ill-advised cause. I'm also worried to see your ill-advice in a worthy cause.

  • Posted By: NewsWkDickG @ 09/22/2008 9:11:11 PM

    The problem with Sarah Palin only starts with her being grossly inexperienced and incapable for the job and responsibility she is applying for. Even considering that she is arrogantly aggressive and extreme and bazaar, those are not the worst issues. Where she totally fails and demonstrates that she should never be trusted with the Vice Presidency, let alone the real possibility of being President, is her persistent inability to be honest, to even have a conscience about being boldly dishonest. That alone should totally disqualify her.

    • Posted By: Gary Puckett @ 09/22/2008 9:22:55 PM

      I am guessing you are her unauthorized biographer and have in-depth access to her governmental affairs, or maybe you really are just reading too much misinformation (classified as unsupported diatribe from the new journalist community known as bloggers) by reference I give you the books she banned which is referred to on the Obama web site. One problem totally false and a site that leans as left as Snopes.com even acknowledges this.

      • Posted By: julie78 @ 09/22/2008 9:50:19 PM

        At least that Ivy league future President has the abilty and knowledge to analyse information. Did you know that he taught consitutional law for 11 years. That accounts for knowledge that most of us do not have. THAT IS KNOWLEDGE OF THE LAWS, WHICH GOVERN OUR LAND. Wow how ignorant Palin supporters are, some of you should not have the right to vote, I am thinking we need to have IQ tests for voters.
        JRJ

        • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/23/2008 12:35:11 AM

          IQ test for voters. Great Idea. That would prevent you from voting!. Never confuse knowledge with wisdom. As my father used to say, I can go sit in the garage all day, that doesn't make me a Cadillac. Teaching Law has nothing whatsoever to do with Practicing Law. Teaching Constitutional Law has nothing whatsoever to do with knowing what to say to Iran, and how to fix the financial crisis and the myriad of issues we need experienced leadership on. "Professor" is another word for" NO Real World Experience".

  • Posted By: Amyable Atheist @ 09/23/2008 12:29:36 AM

    Dear Newsweek,
    Why is this article headlined as "When Atheists Attack"? Shall I anticipate the following sequels written in reasoned, fair opposition to the Palin VP nomination: When Jews Attack; When Muslims Attack; When Liberal Christians Attack; When Quakers Attack? Is reasoned opposition only and/or necessarily an "Attack" when it comes from a person who doesn't espouse a god belief?

  • Posted By: infonaut @ 09/23/2008 12:21:45 AM

    Mr. Harris feels that we Americans are making our political choices on an emotional level, rather than dealing with facts. Judging by the rabid reactions in this comments section, that part of his analysis is spot-on. It seems almost impossible to have a political debate these days in which the discussion doesn't spiral hopelessly out of control into ad hominem attacks and opinions wholly unsupported by facts. We have become so enamored of fighting the culture wars that we have forgotten that we really are in this together.

    Our media fans the flames, because more page views mean more advertiser dollars. Toxic disinhibition, the state of mind that allows usually well-mannered people to attack each other with personal attacks on line, runs rampant. We forget that we all really do depend on each other. The more urban Blue Staters depend on resources from the Red States. The rural Red Staters need the technology generated in Democratic urban strongholds. We depend on each other.

    The most powerful thing about our republic has always been its ability to flex, to hold all the disparate desires and needs of all its people under the same roof. It has also been wildly successful at allowing the best and the brightest to rise to the top, regardless of their parentage or the circumstances under which they were born. I'd hope that regardless of our views about religion, we would vote for the most qualified team on the basis of actual policy positions, knowledge of the issues, and ability to communicate effectively.

  • Posted By: swsmith74 @ 09/23/2008 12:19:20 AM

    Sam Harris-
    So, we give Obama the grace to believe that he has his own personal faith tenants that may or may not correspond to his pastor's, but no grace to Palin on the same issue. Question: Have you spoken to Palin or has anyone else gotten the facts on her true PERSONAL beliefs and how they match up with the church that she USED TO go to? No, I bet not. You just publish slander and uninformed "truths" that you really can't substantiate. As far as Palin's response to the "Bush Doctrine", I have read at least two accounts, one published in the Washington Post that explains that MANY experts would have not exactly known what Mr. Gipson meant by the Bush Doctrine because that phrase has had numerous meanings throughout Bush's tenure. So to ask for clarification did not necessarily mean that she had no handle on issues, but could have meant that she did not know which version of the "Bush Doctrine" he was referring to. As to spirituality, the truly great leaders of our country have historically believed that they needed help from above.

  • Posted By: lsigalov @ 09/23/2008 12:18:39 AM

    thank you. i wish every voter could read this.

  • Posted By: wendy027 @ 09/22/2008 9:59:21 PM

    Obama's record in the Illinois State Senate seat mostly voted "present" on new legislation - he went to the U. S. Senate, where he has done nothing but run for President. - Obama claims to be the Messiah and makes other very creepy demagogic and Messianic claims. No one seems to know why. - Compare Obama's non-record against Palins. Entered Columbia on an affirmative-action lotto miracle, and did absolutely nothing there. In an era of scandalous grade inflation, he was a below-average student with no record of accomplishment (beginning of a theme), *Was granted admission to Harvard Law. No one knows how or why, since his record at Columbia warranted a community college. *Was voted President of the Law Review as a compromise between some militant affirmative-action black racists, and the conservative law students who were admitted to the prestigious school on merit. *Proceeded to do nothing. Search all you want - you'll not find a single published piece of legal scholarship with his name on it anywhere. *Worked in the ghetto in Chicago without effect. *Worked as a lawyer - no one can cite a single case or success. *Worked as a law lecturer - not a single published piece. Ran for congress, lied a lot, lost. *Ran for Senate, got his opponents removed from ballot, Chicago-style, won! *Spent 7 years there, with zero accomplishment. Kept clean by voting "present" over 170 times. Not yes or no, just "present". *Killed a bill (pun!) there in committee which would have more specifically outlawed infanticide, which most people would think is already illegal. Lied about his vote for 5 years, until he was caught during this campaign. The same bill passed the U.S. Senate 98 - 0. And he voted "No". After 170 "present" votes on stupid stuff. You can't make this stuff up. *Ran for U.S. Senate and won when the Chicago Tribune sued to open his opponent's sealed divorce records. The somewhat tawdry information caused his opponent to withdraw. Once again - Obama was running unopposed. Isn't that amazing? *Once in the Senate, he voted against confirmation for our new Chief Justice of the Supreme Court, John Roberts, who humiliated a partisan and overmatched group of liberal nitwit Senators in his confirmation hearings. This was supposed to be Obama's only known talent - constitutional law - and he voted against a guy who is so clearly Obama's intellectual master that most thinking observers are still laughing about it. This is the political "change we can believe in"? What a farce. He's never done anything.

    • Posted By: MelB68 @ 09/22/2008 10:31:07 PM

      Are you kidding me? Have you done any research beyond right-wing blogs? Here are some of Obama's accomplishments:

      Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 570 bills in the 109th and 110th Congress.

      Senator Obama has sponsored or co-sponsored 15 bills that have become LAW since he joined the Senate in 2005.

      Senator Obama has also introduced amendments to 50 bills, of which 16 were adopted by the Senate.

      His record is in fact quite impressive for a junior Senator from Illinois.

      Most of his legislative effort has been in the areas of:

      Energy Efficiency and Climate Change (25 bills)
      Health care (21 bills) and public health (20 bills)
      Consumer protection/labor (14 bills)
      The needs of Veterans and the Armed Forces (13 bills)
      Congressional Ethics and Accountability (12 bills)
      Foreign Policy (10 bills)
      Voting and Elections (9 bills)
      Education (7 bills)
      Hurricane Katrina Relief (6)
      The Environment (5 bills)
      Homeland Security (4 bills)
      Discrimination (4 bills)

      Do you know what voting 'Present' in Illinois means? The "present" vote in Illinois is sometimes cast by state lawmakers with a conflict of interest who would rather not weigh in on an issue. Other times, members use the option to object to certain parts of a bill, even though they may agree with its overall purpose.

      I cannot stand blatant lying and/or stupidity. But I guess I shouldn't be surprised that McCain's supporters would stoop to lying considering McCain's aversion to the truth.

      • Posted By: RavenMaven @ 09/23/2008 12:14:48 AM

        OK. So 570 bills, huh. Now, how much time did he spend WRITING these 570 Bills? Do you know that there is a difference between "Sponsoring" and "Writing"? He is the democratic party's predetermined candidate. He is the rough equivalent of the Falcon's drafting Matt Ryan and then starting him on Day one. So he has been running for president the entire time he has been a senator. But you want us to believe that he has been studiously sitting ion his office, coming up with all these important meaningfull pieces of legislation all on his own. Right. The part makes the bill and slaps his name on it. its political stunt to give him "experience" he doesn't really have.

      • Posted By: Dr Rick @ 09/22/2008 11:03:44 PM

        Oh, so you think it's perfectly okay to challenge a series of insubstantial and inaccurate assertions with facts? Damn elitist.

  • Posted By: elvisatemydonuts @ 09/23/2008 12:04:01 AM

    Every condescending half-baked idea so arrogantly expressed in this grotesquely smug diatribe by Sam Harris tells you much more about its author than anything said about Sarah Palin. This disgraceful and hate-filled rant so dripping with contempt, could easily have been applied to an untested Harry Truman as easily as Palin. The point that our reality-challenged and sad little reporter, Sammy-boy Harris misses over and over is that a great leader does not need an ivy league education to have authentic and keen leadership instincts and full of superior capabilities.

    I'd trust Sarah Palin to make much better decisions than the "well educated" Barack Obama with regard to nuclear proliferation, the wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, the economy, climate change, Russian belligerence, the rise of China, emerging epidemics, Islamism, the United Nations, American schools, energy, infrastructure and Internet security as Sammy's simple empty-headed article lists.

    In fact, it's not even a close choice. And just a reminder Sammy -- she is #2 on the ticket. When it comes down to who's #1 on the ticket (McCain versus Obama) on all of these listed issues, it gets way beyond laughable for those of us with fully active cognitive function.

    I am not a particularly religious person, but Sammy's intolerance and ugly cartoon depiction of Sarah Palin simply because she has a God-based belief system that he don't agree with makes him the ultimate "Ugly American."

    Sammy, maybe you shouldn't think in such black-and-white terms when it comes to people of faith, and gain a little nuance when it comes to those you don't understand and publicly belittle. The funny thing is, they happen to be smarter than you.

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