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  • Posted By: STanveer @ 09/22/2008 6:41:58 PM

    For all those anti-elitist; think for a second where anti-elitism, would have landed this country in 1776. Think of a country without the likes of Hamilton, Jefferson and the super-elite Franklin--they would all be disqualified by today's electorate.. After two terms of a disastrous presidency by a "guy you like to have beer with", with little curiosity and gut decision making, should we not have a bit more faith in a person who is intelligent and smart.

  • Posted By: edantes-usa @ 09/20/2008 5:37:21 PM

    Is Sarah Palin really the religious zealot her supports believe her to be?

    1. Named her kids in hippy-dippy tradition.
    2. Was happy her daughter CHOSE to have their baby, There was a CHOICE!!!

    • Posted By: star3 @ 09/22/2008 6:41:06 PM

      Her supporters do not believe here to be a "Zealot", that is what her detractors believe. Her supporters believe her to be exactly what she is---an intelligent, capable person, who just happens to be a woman, a mother, and soon to be a grandmother. Oh, and as a sideline, she works as Governor of Alaska, and is hoping to be V.P. to McCain's POTUS. And yes, having her child, and supporting her daughter's decision to have her child was a CHOICE! Welcome back to the real world, hope you had a nice visit to NEVER NENER LAND.

  • Posted By: ofcourseobama @ 09/22/2008 6:38:35 PM

    Sam Harris - you nailed it right on. Sarah Palin supporters are complete dimwits...either they have really low standards or they don't think much about the United States...which may be the reason why dimwit Bush got elected for 2 terms...and why we would think Reagan was qualified. Boy, you republicans don't value real education or intelligence based on the record of candidates you put into office...and history still hasn't taught you dimwits anything. The fact that the 2 most uneducated and unqualified candidates next to Bush are where they are in the polls show that middle America is not very smart and there is a very strong racist white mentality that is running this country. I think US better finally brace itself but it will get trampled on by the rest of the world and pretty soon we will be ones asking for handouts. Sam, your next reporting should be on the Troopergate investigation...which is everything but innocent.

  • Posted By: montresor9992004@yahoo.com @ 09/22/2008 6:36:52 PM

    Oh, I forgot. After seeing her performance at the RNC, are you sure Palin isn't any elite politician? Didn't your first paragraph admit it?

  • Posted By: HockeyMom18 @ 09/22/2008 11:13:38 AM

    Barak Obama's made money along with his friends profiting from Freddie and Fannie as did Chris Dodd, If the oversight committee does it's job correctly the American government can make money from these bailouts. I do wonder if the government will be able to do it correctly as they only know how to spend and not make. I do like the idea of McCain's to put real proven business people on this oversight board, it might give us a chance to recoup at least what was or is going to be spent.

    I do not believe that the majority of Americans are clueless. Intelligence comes in many forms, because you do not agree with someone does not mean they are not intelligent. We have a President with the lowest approval rating in history, we have a congress and senate with an even lower approval rating why it that?

    • Posted By: clcorbett @ 09/22/2008 6:32:22 PM

      You mean Warren Buffett? Um, he's advising Obama. Are you aware that the current crisis was caused by deregulation legislation written by John McCain's economic advisor, Phil Gramm? Or that Rick Davis, McCain's campaign manager, was paid $30K/month for 5 years to lobby on behalf of looser regulations for the geniuses who ran Fannie Mae and Freedie Mac. Do you, in fact, know anything at all, or do you just like Sarah Palin because she's "spunky" and John McCain becasue he's "honorable"? Tell me, if your husband left you after a disfiguring car accident for a younger, filthy rich woman, would you want me to vote for him?

  • Posted By: slgw @ 09/22/2008 6:31:51 PM

    I think it would be easier for folks to understand the word "elite" and its connotations if we were to put it in sports terms. We send our "elite" athletes to the Olympics, not our city league, recreational team players. American voters should think of the presidency as the "Olympics" of leadership. Is it not the highest, most powerful office in the world? Yes, it is, just as the Olympics represent our highest athletic aspirations. Do we want any less than the most educated, most thoughtful, most intellectually agile person to lead our country? No, of course not. Sarah Palin might be a Good Mom or an Average Joe or a Regular Person--but she's not a gold medalist.

  • Posted By: Mainer1776 @ 09/22/2008 6:31:39 PM

    What a poor sap Sam is. He is a lost soul.

  • Posted By: AbleToThinkForMyself @ 09/22/2008 6:31:20 PM

    Replace religion with cult-like-worship and you could have written this about Barack Obama only it would've been even more relevant since he is the top of the ticket.

    Liberal doublethink strikes again!

  • Posted By: agjames @ 09/22/2008 6:00:55 PM

    If you change the name from Sarah Palin, to George Bush,then the artilce would be about George Bush rather than Sarah Palin. Maybe the author had already written the article to attack George Bush, but Sarah was a more update name.

    Albert

    • Posted By: Sweetchops @ 09/22/2008 6:30:05 PM

      And if you would substitute the word "meatloaf" for Sarah Palin, then it would ostensibly be an article about food.

      But, no, it wasn't written earlier. If you in fact read the article, you noticed that Palin was at one point contrasted with George Bush in terms of the fervor of their respective religious beliefs. That would make for a rather nonsensical article about George Bush if Palin was merely substituted into the article as you suggest.

  • Posted By: Politics_is_an_illogical_enterprise @ 09/22/2008 6:28:17 PM

    'thinking about consequences:' (with reference to your comment below): It becomes clear that your insistance upon assuming the biblical texts to hold water unequivically- without any consideration of a pragmatic perspective on morality- impedes your understanding of the real issues underpinning Mr.Harris's article. In the first place, to give some sacerdotal impunity to someone who's views on world affairs are literally limited to that which she has witnessed from standing on her back porch, simply because you agree with her assessment that god hates homosexuals and that democrats approbate the wholesale murder of babies is disturbing. The problem with your claim that it's 'not just the morons who ruins the world' might lend itself to a little credibility if your hockey-mom mascot didn't sound so much like one of those morons. It is almost as though the conservative wing of the political spectrum subscribes to the idea that the quality of intelligence (read: 'elitist') should automatically bar someone from occupying the highest office in the land.

    (originally posted by "thinking about consequences" below):
    Posted By: thinking about consequences @ 09/22/2008 5:42:41 PM
    Comment: So I am impeding forward progress by believing in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. How good of you to inform me of my ignorance. By the way, what is the goal I am impeding progress toward? The goal of every man doing what he thinks is right in his own eyes (a practice that the writer of the book of Judges found somewhat wanting)? How many times does human history have to teach that even the intelligent people are capable of unspeakable evil? It's not just the morons that ruin the world...

  • Posted By: Politics_is_an_illogical_enterprise @ 09/22/2008 6:26:26 PM

    'thinking about consequences:' (with reference to your comment below): It becomes clear that your insistance upon assuming the biblical texts to hold water unequivically- without any consideration of a pragmatic perspective on morality- impedes your understanding of the real issues underpinning Mr.Harris's article. In the first place, to give some sacerdotal impunity to someone who's views on world affairs are literally limited to that which she has witnessed from standing on her back porch, simply because you agree with her assessment that god hates homosexuals and that democrats approbate the wholesale murder of babies is disturbing. The problem with your claim that it's 'not just the morons who ruins the world' might lend itself to a little credibility if your hockey-mom mascot didn't sound so much like one of those morons. It is almost as though the conservative wing of the political spectrum subscribes to the idea that the quality of intelligence (read: 'elitist') should automatically bar someone from occupying the highest office in the land.

    (originally posted by "thinking about consequences" below):
    Posted By: thinking about consequences @ 09/22/2008 5:42:41 PM
    Comment: So I am impeding forward progress by believing in the God of Abraham, Isaac, and Jacob. How good of you to inform me of my ignorance. By the way, what is the goal I am impeding progress toward? The goal of every man doing what he thinks is right in his own eyes (a practice that the writer of the book of Judges found somewhat wanting)? How many times does human history have to teach that even the intelligent people are capable of unspeakable evil? It's not just the morons that ruin the world...

  • Posted By: kawannah @ 09/22/2008 11:04:53 AM

    Amazing criticism given what people who haven't believed in God have done to the world. Hitler... and more like him. The liberal elite, those educated people who want to dictate to others what they believe, because they are educated and therefore must know what is best. They want to demand or dictate what we believe , in the name of science and all that is rational. Doesn't like the ideas this country was founded upon. Oh well what do I know, I only have one degree and I'm not rich. I must not have much to offer. If this kind of thinking is what has gotten us where we are, uh is that really good?

    • Posted By: bgc20886 @ 09/22/2008 11:50:50 AM

      I would say that your response is amazing considering what people who HAVE believed in a God have done over the centuries. All in the NAME of God. Think before you post next time.

      • Posted By: clcorbett @ 09/22/2008 6:25:33 PM

        Ummm ... HItler was a Christian.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 11:22:08 AM

      Hitler? Where did that come from? Your response to this article is just as damaging as the article itself

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 09/22/2008 6:24:28 PM

    Everyone assumes that Obama has always performed well, and we hear a lot about Obama at Harvard, but nothing much about Obama's performance at Columbia. Here's what I have been able to find:

    Unlike McCain, nobody knows just how well Mr. Obama performed while at Columbia. The Obama campaign has refused to release his college transcript. Of course this was while he was using cocaine, so it would not be surprising if his college transcript reflected some problems.

    Federal law limits the information that Columbia can release about Mr. Obama's time there. A spokesman for the university, Brian Connolly, confirmed that Mr. Obama spent two years at Columbia College and graduated in 1983 with a major in political science. He did not receive honors, Mr. Connolly said, though specific information on his grades is sealed. A program from the 1983 graduation ceremony lists him as a graduate."

    http://www.nysun.com/new-york/obamas-years-at-columbia-are-a-mystery/85015/

    Makes me wonder how he got into Harvard, and why he didn't apply to Columbia Law School, or maybe he did, but was not admitted.

    Someone pulled some strings.

  • Posted By: wwterry @ 09/22/2008 6:01:52 PM

    I'm disappointed in your diatribe against Sarah Palin. A much less qualified person (Barake Hussien Obama isn't vetted even though he wrote about being poor and being a heavy drug user. Duh, when you are poor and a drug user, you sell drugs to support your habit. So if he is elected he will be a national first: Obama will be the first street corner drug dealer elected president. He will be the first drug dude. Myself I would rather have Sarah than some fool like Obama. Caio! WWTerry

    • Posted By: Sweetchops @ 09/22/2008 6:21:49 PM

      To wwterry: Wow. That made absolutely no sense. Here, let me try using your perverted form of logic, taking - as you have - full liberty with nonsensical tangents and conclusions....

      wwterry posted on this site. It stands to reason that wwterry is in fact the American actor, Terry Gilliam. Mr. Gilliam earned fame and fortune for this role in the film "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." That would make him an avid collector of magical cups, and the first person to post on the newsweek.com comment section who has attained everlasting life.

    • Posted By: Sweetchops @ 09/22/2008 6:19:17 PM

      To wwterry: Wow. That made absolutely no sense. Here, let me try using your perverted form of logic, taking - as you have - full liberty with nonsensical tangents and conclusions...

      wwterry posted on this site. It stands to reason that wwterry is in fact the American actor, Terry Gilliam. Mr. Gilliam earned fame and fortune for this role in the film "Monty Python and the Holy Grail." That would make him an avid collector of magical cups, and the first person to post on the newsweek.com comment section who has attained everlasting life.

  • Posted By: chindognyc @ 09/20/2008 6:45:30 PM

    Funny that Sarah Palin said that she will cut taxes to all Americans, yet, when she was mayor and Gov. she raised taxes.

    • Posted By: zandygurl8526 @ 09/22/2008 6:13:55 PM

      We don't have state taxes for her to raise... We have city and borough taxes (sales tax) that are sometimes permanent, or raised a percentage or two for city projects. I do know she raised the oil taxes to increase revenue for the state, but I'm not sure if she raised Wasilla's sales tax.

      • Posted By: zandygurl8526 @ 09/22/2008 6:21:28 PM

        Oops... first time posting- sorry, didn't realize it had already posted.

    • Posted By: zandygurl8526 @ 09/22/2008 6:17:09 PM

      We don't have state taxes in Alaska. The cities and towns may have taxes though, its up to them. Quite often there is a permanent sales tax, and maybe an extra percentage or two added on to help fund city projects. I know she raised oil taxes to increase revenue for the Permanent Fund, but I'm not sure if she raised Wasilla's sales tax (which the community would normally have to vote on.).

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 09/22/2008 6:20:07 PM

    Palin is pro-life, even in the case of rape, and opposes same-sex marriage and favors the discussion of creationism alongside evolution in schools. But she hasn't pushed for legislative changes in any of those areas.

    The Associated Press reported Sept 3: "Palin's children attend public schools and Palin has made no push to have creationism taught in them. ... It reflects a hands-off attitude toward mixing government and religion by most Alaskans."

    She even vetoed a bill that would have denied benefits to employees in same-sex relationships because she said it was unconstitutional.

    That says plenty. It shows she knows the limits of government, and believes that government isn't there to tell us what to do.

    Obama seems more inclined to use government to control what choices we have than Palin does. Have you seen HR 800? The democrats want to do away with the secret ballot in union elections -- no more elections, just check off cards.

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 09/22/2008 6:19:23 PM

    You wouldn't think, with all the problems Obama has explaining Rev. Wright's white hating Afrocentric theology,, that any of his supporters would suggest that judgments should be made about a candidate based on where he attended church, or what he believes (or doesn't).

  • Posted By: elle1042 @ 09/22/2008 11:20:07 AM

    I admire Gov. Palin, because she has worked very hard to get where she is. She has more knowledge about issues affecting all Americans, i.e. Energy and Oil, then the Democratic ticket.

    The bottom line is that she has a track record of working hard, and rooting out 'bad' apples from her own party. She has tenacity, confidence and a successful track record. What's there not to like?

    The criticism (what is it really jealousy?) against her, and the malicious attackes (hacking her personal email) has not levelled her one iota. She is strong, and confident. And I absolutely admire her strength. This is a person I want in politics.

    Compare and contrast to Sen Obama. The guy has a history of associations with terrorists (Bill Ayers..#1 unrepentant terrorist). He has lied about his previous employment. His wife's salary more than doubled after he got to the state senate. He 'hung' out with corrupt slum landlord Rezko in Illinois.....
    this is scary stuff... but the scariest thing is he has accomplised absolutely nothing!!!
    Nothing!
    Oh, except re-brand Marxism ...
    btw:
    I'm sick and tired of these elitist limosine liberals (can we say $28,500 dinner/$2,500 entertainment) trying to shove their Marxist ideas on us.


    • Posted By: clcorbett @ 09/22/2008 6:18:02 PM

      Well, I don't like her utter, abject stupidity. Her terrifying resemblance to Geroge Bush. Her whiny, nails-on-a-chalkboard voice. Her goofy hairstyle. Her interest in flauting the 1st Amendment (book banning, look it up). Her anti-American, secessionist husband. Her Jew-hating pastor who idolizes a man who thinks the Holocaust was what the Jews deserved (she was in the pew during that little speech, by the way). Her using taxpayer money to build an unnecessary hockey arena in Wasilla when the town didn't own the land, then using eminent domain to attempt to take the land away from its rightful owner (sounds a little Marxist to me). Her refusal to cooperate with an investigation into her allegedly alleged abuse of power. Her leaving her tiny little town in significant debt. Her hiring an administrator to handle the daily-to-day responsibilities while she was mayor. Her abdicating her role as AK governor to the McCain campaign. There's so, so, so much more, but I have to go do some real work now.

      Oh yes, I really, really, hate her lipstick.

  • Posted By: glimps @ 09/22/2008 6:14:05 PM

    this is off the subject of the article...

    But Donald Trump endoursed the McCain/ Palin ticket ( talk about the elitist)..

    when the really really rich endourses you then you know what side & who this ticket really helps..

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