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  • Posted By: Atlas227 @ 09/22/2008 4:42:31 PM

    I don't think the biggest scare is Palin herself, I think it's the fact that so many people still haven't woken up and smelled the coffee. Year after year all we do is vote between two parties. Where are the "other" options needed to allow for the appearance of a sane and rational group of candidates? It's a sad state of affairs when so many people have no clue as to what makes sense in terms of leadership. I fear we as a people are a long way off from being able to select any form of rational leadership. And it's only a matter of time before things get so bad that something drastic will come of it. Perhaps a civil war? Perhaps seccession? When will Atlas finally SHRUG?

  • Posted By: gruikman @ 09/22/2008 4:42:28 PM

    Please, people of the United States, do something for us, the people outside USA... Don't vote for McCain and his holy leathal genetically-modified mass-debilitating barbie girl... This is really really frightening for the future... for you... and for us... It's not possible to go on considering that anyone not with you is against you and must be eradicated... It's not possible to fight for peace when you are an extremist in any way (politically, economically, religiously, philosophically speaking)... Freedom is not christian or islamic or bhuddist or atheist or democrat or republican... we all need to become less warlike, less caricatural, less manicheist, less cynic, less selfish, less schizofrenic and paranoiac concerning politics, economy, religion, climate etc... we need to be more reasonable, rational, more peaceful, more social... more human, I would dare to say? (if I didn't fear being human might only be described by the words in the previous sentence without the "less" before...)
    The question is not: will there be United States in the future? The question is: will there be a future for all of us?
    I don't care whether Obama will change everything or not much, I only say that this guy will not let United States go on the same crazy way as now. I don't ask much... Some time to breath and look around to see that we are endangered by ourself and that we can still do something about it... Thanks in advance

  • Posted By: Atlas227 @ 09/22/2008 4:42:10 PM

    I don't think the biggest scare is Palin herself, I think it's the fact that so many people still haven't woken up and smelled the coffee. Year after year all we do is vote between two parties. Where are the "other" options needed to allow for the appearance of a sane and rational group of candidates? It's a sad state of affairs when so many people have no clue as to what makes sense in terms of leadership. I fear we as a people are a long way off from being able to select any form of rational leadership. And it's only a matter of time before things get so bad that something drastic will come of it. Perhaps a civil war? Perhaps seccession? When will Atlas finally SHRUG?

  • Posted By: LadyLeft @ 09/22/2008 4:24:01 PM

    Tee hee. You little pipsqueaks just can't stand that your liberal-intellectual flummery doesn't play with the rubes anymore. I can't wait until she sets up her office in the White House--you idiots will keep me laughing for 8 years.

    • Posted By: pachepaz @ 09/22/2008 4:28:48 PM

      Dear, LadyLeft.....Ever hear the expression, "eat your own words"? I'll be glad to furnish you some "liberal" (as opposed to "holy" water to wash them down with.

      • Posted By: LadyLeft @ 09/22/2008 4:40:56 PM

        LOL! Make it a beer, and I'll be happy to toast Republican victory, and the consignment of Oblabla and his ilk to the sandbox of history. In he meantime, you might not want to wear your antireligiosity on your sleeve in such a way, or people might get the right idea about you...

  • Posted By: Panamalive @ 09/22/2008 4:40:50 PM

    Even more frightening than the thought of Palin prostituting her way into the White House is reading some of the posts on this thread that support her.

  • Posted By: Atlas227 @ 09/22/2008 4:40:44 PM

    I don't think the biggest scare is Palin herself, I think it's the fact that so many people still haven't woken up and smelled the coffee. Year after year all we do is vote between two parties. Where are the "other" options needed to allow for the appearance of a sane and rational group of candidates? It's a sad state of affairs when so many people have no clue as to what makes sense in terms of leadership. I fear we as a people are a long way off from being able to select any form of rational leadership. And it's only a matter of time before things get so bad that something drastic will come of it. Perhaps a civil war? Perhaps seccession? When will Atlas finally SHRUG?

  • Posted By: gruikman @ 09/22/2008 4:40:18 PM

    Please, people of the United States, do something for us, the people outside USA... Don't vote for McCain and his holy leathal genetically-modified mass-debilitating barbie girl... This is really really frightening for the future... for you... and for us also... we all need to become less Please, people of the United States, do something for us, the people outside USA... Don't vote for McCain and his holy leathal genetically-modified mass-debilitating barbie girl... This is really really frightening for the future... for you... and for us... It's not possible to go on considering that anyone not with you is against you and must be eradicated... It's not possible to fight for peace when you are an extremist in any way (politically, economically, religiously, philosophically speaking)... Freedom is not christian or islamic or bhuddist or atheist or democrat or republican... we all need to become less warlike, less caricatural, less manicheist, less cynic, less selfish, less schizofrenic and paranoiac concerning politics, economy, religion, climate etc... we need to be more reasonable, rational, more peaceful, more social... more human, I would dare to say? (if I didn't fear being human might only be described by the words in the previous sentence without the "less" before...)
    The question is not: will there be United States in the future? The question is: will there be a future for all of us?
    I don't care whether Obama will change everything or not much, I only say that this guy will not let United States go on the same crazy way as now. I don't ask much... Some time to breath and look around to see that we are endangered by ourself and that we can still do something about it... Thanks in advance

  • Posted By: djbeecroft @ 09/22/2008 4:09:53 PM

    She shows respect? For whom? She spent her entire first speech trashing Dems with sarcastic vitriol, and then she relayed numerous falsehoods - her stance on the "Bridge to Nowhere, the fate of the gov's plane - to her supporters. Since when is hurling insults and being dishonest to everyone including your own supporters respectful?

    • Posted By: Robert L. Brockett @ 09/22/2008 4:40:02 PM

      So when did lying and slander become a Christian virtue? Oh, about eight years ago...

    • Posted By: Toilet @ 09/22/2008 4:16:30 PM

      PALIN IS AN ANIMAL WITH NO BRAIN.

  • Posted By: intruthruth @ 09/22/2008 4:39:24 PM

    I am not sure you have to be an atheist to applaud the wisdom and truth of this article. It hits the nail on the head and it must be the denial, the nail in this very word, that has so many people on the band wagon for Sarah Palin. It's actually beyond the pale. Is this the real world or, the reel world?

  • Posted By: Spinner @ 09/22/2008 4:26:07 PM

    The fact that Sarah Palin and Dude Palin are blocking an investigation of something they may be involved int (troopergate) is scary. By what authority can they blatantly disregard the subpoena he was served and refuse to answer questions from the Alaska State lLgislature's own committee??? Talk about abuse of power and obstruction of justice. I have no use for either of them. Their disregard for the law is enough to show me that they are certainly not like most average Americans. If we tried that kind of thing, we'd be arrested.

    • Posted By: HockeyMom18 @ 09/22/2008 4:38:59 PM

      This troopergate deal is nothing compared to Bill Clinton and the liies he told, or his wife and the missing files, Biden and the stealing of someone elses words (fraud), Kennedy and the killing of a young woman and he ran, Obama's friends the terriorist and America hater. The list goes on and on this should not surprise you, been this way long before Nixon.

  • Posted By: jiminmass92 @ 09/22/2008 4:33:49 PM

    Silly me...I thought we had put our nation at risk when Bill Clinton lost the nuclear launch codes and lied about it to the Air Force liason for weeks on end or when he backed the removal of a large number of technical export restrictions to potentially dangerous nations. This is trash. Pure intellect is not a guarantor of common sense nor is it a guarantee that self interest will be trumped by the common good. Agree with Palin's views or not, even some of her enemies in AK say one thing about her...that she is smart. I don't care which party you support. I am fed up with both, but if you define leadership by an ivy league theory...we are all doomed. This is the most elitest article I have read in years.

    • Posted By: Jaybe @ 09/22/2008 4:38:03 PM

      You spelled elitist wrong

  • Posted By: J Dough @ 09/22/2008 4:37:58 PM

    Funny, great decisions are rarely made from inherent knowledge. Those making the decisions rely upon experts in the necessary field, not solely on their own knowledge. Let's hope Palin would follow such a model. Interesting that this "writer" makes zero mention of BO's long-standing membership and vast involvement in a church that called out God's damnation on our country. Typical liberal duoble standard.

  • Posted By: City Jim @ 09/22/2008 4:37:47 PM

    It wasn't an attempt at humor - its a real concern, and very appropriate. As they stand today, I have less confidence in Obama than Palin, and not enough in either to become CIC.

  • Posted By: jiminmass92 @ 09/22/2008 4:35:50 PM

    cferns1530 ... do you take issue that Abraham LIncoln and JFK used almost the same language as she did? If you read the entire script of her comments, you will realize the texts are amost identical.

  • Posted By: Toilet @ 09/22/2008 4:22:37 PM

    What's the difference between Sarah Palin and George Bush....Lipstick.

    • Posted By: patton434 @ 09/22/2008 4:34:50 PM

      What's the difference between barak obama, and an ex cocain-abusing street hooker who will do anything for money?? Lipstick!!

  • Posted By: ldap23 @ 09/22/2008 4:33:49 PM

    I think the author makes some very valid points and asks some very important and valid questions about Gov. Palin. I think politics has become way too enamored with a nice face, pretty rhetoric, and no experience. I also think a number of the criticisms and questions can be leveled at Obama as well . . with the experience issues and even the church issues. If you are going to talk about the company Palin kept you need to be able to ask the same questions of Obama (which they have) about his church and the teachings he was there for. The article makes a number of assumptions about what Palin MIGHT believe, but they are valid questions to ask.

    As a country though, we definitely need to pick our heads up and take a serious look at who we have elected as the two candidates for President of the United States. Why does America keep talking about who they can have a beer with, who they can relate to . . . that should NEVER be a qualification for POTUS. Seriously, I don't care about their alcohol preferences, what sports they play, or hobbies they have. I want to know that they know how to lead, that they have a serious grasp of the issues, and are fully qualified to implement the ideas and policies that they put forth. Instead of having 'catchphrase' politics and sound bites I want to hear the candidates themselves specifically articulate their policies without all of the bullcrap math, and fudging of numbers. I want to know they are authentic and sincere when they speak . .not just guarding themselves against making a mistake in their speach that everyone blows out of proportion for weeks on end. Obama spoke like that in the very beginning of his campaign but has since been culled by his Democratic handlers. The only campaign that I feel had "straight talk" though was Ron Paul; I don't agree with him, but at least he was honest sincere and clearly articulated his positions without worry about how it "sounded" in the media. He was the most refreshing candidate to listen to in this whole process. Its truly a shame how bad our political process has become when the "best" candidates come down to who runs a better marketing campaign for POTUS . . that is no qualification whatsoever for that position.
    I am thoroughly disgusted with where we are in this process. I don't know who I'm going to vote for . . .looks like it'll have to be the lesser of two evils.

  • Posted By: naardski @ 09/22/2008 3:50:58 PM

    Harris - you have a COMPLETE misunderstanding of not only Gov. Palin, but of Christians who seek to steward their gifitings in the area of government. No one - and I mean NO one - I know in among evangelical circles (and I am a pastor) desires a Christian theocracy in America. This is a total straw-man argument.

    This article is along the lines of Keith O's MSNBC footage trying to tie Gov. Palin in with some witch hunter in Africa. Ridiculous.

    The true ignorance is with those whom are not willing to tolerate any other worldview except their God-exempt, pluralistic, humanist worldview. It is best summed up by the SC governor who proclaimed that Palin's best qualification for VP is that she has not had an abortion. But I guess desperate times create desperate quotes...

    • Posted By: Nick_G @ 09/22/2008 4:24:30 PM

      You speak as if a humanistic/pluralism society is bad. Cultural pluralism seeks to overcome racism, sexism, and other forms of discrimination. Being humanistic simply means devotion in the well being of humans.

      That is, by definition, what government should be. I should not know, nor care, what Palin???s religious beliefs are. Logically speaking, the only reason why I do is because this is her platform, there for her religious beliefs will be reflected in her governmental decisions.

      With that being said would you vote in a die hard, this is the way to live, Muslim? A Buddhist? No, because it is not the governments job to force their religious beliefs onto it???s public. Don???t be a hypocrite and argue persecution while performing it.

      • Posted By: yourwinter @ 09/22/2008 4:33:46 PM

        I couldn't agree more, Nick_G. I should warn you, though, don't waste your breath too much. Most of the people who claim to have their religious freedoms limited are the ones usually squashing others'.

  • Posted By: Global Cooling @ 09/22/2008 4:32:17 PM

    Speaking of ignorance...

    Harris makes the case for McCain, a secular Christian with 6 times the experience of Obama--Earth to Sam Harris, the top of the ticket runs the country!

    This article evidences the height of left-wing bias and doublesspeak against people of faith and conservatives generaally. The very same arguments Harris makes to suggest that Palin is unqualified apply equally to Obama--he's utterly bankrupt in terms of experience and education (he's only 47 and has accomplished nothing of substance despite his flashy diplomas) and has a religious heritage that makes Palin (even Fallwell for that matter) I religious moderate. Add this to the pile of flailing hit-pieces mass-produced by the Left these past few weeks. Obama: negative change we don't need.

  • Posted By: caribbe2 @ 09/22/2008 4:32:02 PM

    I think you exaggerate about the greatness of Palin's speech. She excited right wing nuts. The rest of us, not so much.

  • Posted By: cferns1530 @ 09/22/2008 4:32:00 PM

    Palin can argue all she wants about being on God's side. When you even think about foreign issues as a 'task from God' on in any religious sense, you've already distorted your judgement.
    This reminds me of what Bush said that he had a vision and God called him to it.

    When you mix religion with politics it never goes well. This applies to the radicals too.
    Americans have a great constitution. Problem is they keep forgetting what Jefferson said about religion.

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