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  • Posted By: katie from dallas @ 09/22/2008 3:37:01 PM

    Wonderful opinion that made some good points to ponder despite a horrible title...although I am more scared of this woman now than ever before...she keeps company with some very bizarre bedfellows, will say anything to lend herself the facade of credibility and thinks God has ordained her to save the human race from...wait for it...abortion. As if we don't have more pressing issues at hand affecting retirement/education/cost of living/environment! I fear for my world and all its inhabitants if Mccain/Palin win, it will be 4 more bumbling years of corporate de-regulation, rising health-care, lowered education standards with higher prices and rich getting richer while we, the bread and butter, the salt of the earth, take the longest fall in history! My children will not have the quality of life I had, and that is the sad truth. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH! Bring on the change!

    Newsweek - Keep up the good work for exposing this ARSONIST and DESTROYER of our Constitution!

  • Posted By: Indy TX @ 09/22/2008 3:36:54 PM

    You're right, presidents get elected for all kinds of weird reasons.

    Let's see. Clinton got elected because people felt comfortable with the idea of having a beer with him.
    Bush got elected because he convinced people that he would act based on his Christian faith (which we've seen was just a pandering statement to get votes).
    People are willing to vote for Obama because he isn't Bush.
    People are willing to vote for McCain because he isn't Obama.

    But we also have to face that Fiorina was right. None of our four leading candidates are qualified to be a president. McCain and Biden have been around the longest -- but they've only got experience in committee, not any administrative background. Obama has only a fraction of their experience, and most of his experience has been that he learned how to vote "Present" instead of making a decision. Palin's woefully limited experience is actually the most extensive of the four candidates -- that's what we should really be scared of.

  • Posted By: Bluedog Alaska @ 09/22/2008 3:36:31 PM

    Finally, an intelligent analysis of what Palin's philosophy (or lack of one) represents. But I can attest to how her beliefs conflict with her actions on a practical level. One would hope that a professed Christian of any stripe would not consider lying, naked ambition, and lawlessness to be virtues. Yet, in Alaska, we are watching her true values at work on the national scene with an appalled fascination. There's no guessing at what kind of leader she is anymore--she's laid it out clearly.

    She promised us transparent government and accountability. Yet she has refused to cooperate with a legislative inquiry into alleged abuse of power--despite her assurances that she welcomed the inquiry and would cooperate. She is allowing her husband to ignore a lawful subpoena on the most laughable pretexts. She has allowed McCain's campaign to install itself as a de facto governor of Alaska, meaning that anyone who has questions for or business with the governor's office is automatically referred to the McCain campaign. She has allowed McCain's opratives to politicize this Troopergate inquiry into a standstill and then to laughably complain that it's those dang Democrats who have "tainted" the investigation. She either exaggerates her accomplishments here or flat out lies about them with such assurance that it's breathtaking.

    She is such a calculating pragmatist that she knew better than to allow her fundamentalist views to decide her political actions here, and yet the second she accepted McCain's offer, she willingly allowed herself to use those tenets for political gain.

    If she returns to Alaska (and for the sake of the country, she should, regrettably), I can almost guarantee she'll face a recall election. She is not the governor we elected (and fewer than half of the voters in that election did choose her). She is McCain's vain, cynical, and manipulative creation--but now we can see it more clearly. And thousands of Alaskans hope the rest of you will, too.

  • Posted By: mca_veau @ 09/22/2008 1:27:46 PM

    George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.

    A little over one year ago:
    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;
    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

    3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

    4) The DOW JONES hit a record high -- 14,000+

    5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises and vacations overseas, living large!

    But Americans wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic congress & yep -- we got 'CHANGE' all right!

    1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;

    2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing;

    3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

    4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars & prices are still dropping;

    5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

    6) The Dow is probing another low ~11,300



    7) $2.5 trillion dollars has evaporated from stocks, bonds and mutual fund investment portfolios.

    Yep, in 2006 America voted for change. And we got it! A Democratic congress, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid.

    Now the Democrats' candidate for president -- and the polls say he's gonna be 'the man' -- claims he's gonna really give us change! Just how much more 'change' do you think you can stand?


    • Posted By: fccFH @ 09/22/2008 3:36:28 PM

      Okay, this just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you work in the financial sector? Do you understand that these changes do not occur overnight? It was the lack of federal control and loosening of the reins, turning a blind eye that led to extravagant and irresponsible actions on Wall Street and, please do not forget, Americans in general. Blazing warning signs of troubled times to come were buzzing well before 2006, try 2003. And what shocks me so much about what you write is your ignorance to the fact that it was those first five years that put us in this mess. You say Americans were buying new cars, taking cruises- living large!- Yeah exactly- in other words taking out huge amounts of credit and mortgages they could not afford- what do you think led to foreclosures- and when people defaulted on these loans creditors get stung, jobs are lost, and we have this trickle down affect- it was a slippery slop from the moment Bush stepped in- what was needed those first six years was regulation- that was a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR farce on the side of the Republican controlled congress. A lot of damage was done- considering what a shambles the Republican congress left this country in, not to mention the mess Bush has created, you are lucky the Democratically congress is there to clean it all up!

    • Posted By: keeptryingrbo @ 09/22/2008 2:25:55 PM

      Hey smart one, when the government passes a bill, it takes months to get implemented to Wall Street, then takes years to get the operation going and see the results. Not over night. About how long, you think? About 8 years or so.

      I can see why you would vote for idiots.

    • Posted By: mebejoe @ 09/22/2008 1:45:40 PM

      Excellent deduction Watson!

      You're right, all of these problems just popped up out of nowhere in the last 2 years! Good thing we have the option of selecting a progressive-minded democratic nominee to fix all this so the Repubs can take over again in 8 years and #$%& everything up again.

  • Posted By: mca_veau @ 09/22/2008 1:29:22 PM

    George Bush has been in office for 7 1/2 years. The first six the economy was fine.

    A little over one year ago:
    1) Consumer confidence stood at a 2 1/2 year high;

    2) Regular gasoline sold for $2.19 a gallon;

    3) The unemployment rate was 4.5%.

    4) The DOW JONES hit a record high -- 14,000+

    5) American's were buying new cars, taking cruises and vacations overseas, living large!

    But Americans wanted 'CHANGE'! So, in 2006 they voted in a Democratic congress & yep -- we got 'CHANGE' all right!

    1) Consumer confidence has plummeted;

    2) Gasoline is now over $4 a gallon & climbing;

    3) Unemployment is up to 5% (a 10% increase);

    4) Americans have seen their home equity drop by $12 trillion dollars & prices are still dropping;

    5) 1% of American homes are in foreclosure.

    6) The Dow is probing another low ~11,300

    7) $2.5 trillion dollars has evaporated from stocks, bonds and mutual fund investment portfolios.

    Yep, in 2006 America voted for change. And we got it! A Democratic congress, Nancy Pelosi, Harry Reid.

    Now the Democrats' candidate for president -- and the polls say he's gonna be 'the man' -- claims he's gonna really give us change! Just how much more 'change' do you think you can stand?


    • Posted By: fccFH @ 09/22/2008 3:35:29 PM

      Okay, this just shows you have no idea what you are talking about. Do you work in the financial sector? Do you understand that these changes do not occur overnight? It was the lack of federal control and loosening of the reins, turning a blind eye that led to extravagant and irresponsible actions on Wall Street and, please do not forget, Americans in general. Blazing warning signs of troubled times to come were buzzing well before 2006, try 2003. And what shocks me so much about what you write is your ignorance to the fact that it was those first five years that put us in this mess. You say Americans were buying new cars, taking cruises- living large!- Yeah exactly- in other words taking out huge amounts of credit and mortgages they could not afford- what do you think led to foreclosures- and when people defaulted on these loans creditors get stung, jobs are lost, and we have this trickle down affect- it was a slippery slop from the moment Bush stepped in- what was needed those first six years was regulation- that was a MAJOR, MAJOR, MAJOR farce on the side of the Republican controlled congress. A lot of damage was done- considering what a shambles the Republican congress left this country in, not to mention the mess Bush has created, you are lucky the Democratically congress is there to clean it all up!

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:14:40 PM

      And you really think that having a Congress that didn't ever have enough of a majority to get the legislation they wanted passed is responsible?

      You act as if these things happen overnight. They don't.

      Any economic woes we have can be leveled at the bogus Iraq War.

      Look at it this way:

      An addicted gambler might gamble his paycheck at the races and lose. You might say, "That's just his paycheck..." Then he can't make rent, then he gets evicted, then his wife and kids leave him, then in depression his productivity declines and he gets fired, then he falls into the bottom of a bottle and that's it.


      Pouring money into a bottomless pit overseas is a surefire way of guaranteeing that we'll never have enough to go around at home.

    • Posted By: Slimmie @ 09/22/2008 2:35:39 PM

      Thank's for putting it in that perspective!

  • Posted By: 1happydude @ 09/22/2008 2:27:26 PM

    Okay, so Mr. Harris has had his fun in mocking those with strong Christian values. Do you people not know your history, the basis of what this country was founded on? Apparently not! I am thankful that when our founding fathers were laying the groundwork for this nation there were people trashing them because of their Christian beliefs. Then you want to talk about electing unqualified people. This goes both ways. I have seen a female Democrat elected to an office because she sponsored bean dinners and gave away green balloons. She was elected to an office she didn't know beans about (although, I guess she could cook them). Oh, excuse me that was okay -she was a Democrat.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 2:50:59 PM

      Actually, the architects of our Declaration of Independence and our Constitution were deists. Read Thomas Paine.

      • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 3:34:54 PM

        Your generalizing. A fair amount were out-and-out Christians. Some were deists. Some told the public that they were deists or Christians but privately were atheists. It is intellectually dishonest to lump all the fathers into one group. They were a group full of differing opinions, outlooks, and beliefs.

    • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 2:48:10 PM

      The old debate about whether the founding fathers supported Christianity. There was a plurality of views among the founding fathers. Some we agnostic, some were christian, some were terrified of religion. Madison (father of the constitution) and Jefferson (writer of the declaration of independence) disliked and distrusted Christianity.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/22/2008 2:45:59 PM

      Is strong Christian values synonymous with pushy bullies and beaters? Nothing worse than the scary Christians. Nothing better than the nice ones.

    • Posted By: ctpjs99 @ 09/22/2008 2:39:12 PM

      You need a history lesson. The founding fathers made it very clear that the "the government of the United States is not in any sense founded on the Christian religion..." -quote taken from Article 11 of the Treaty with Tripoli which was approved by George Washington and John Adams.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/22/2008 3:34:31 PM

    Biden promises to send Israel humanitarian aid if it is attacked by Iran "Assuming that there is anybody left alive, we will send all the help approved by the United Nations." said Mr. Biden who has been complaining of severe headaches recently.

  • Posted By: emerald_irises @ 09/22/2008 3:34:27 PM

    The difference is not just WHAT the candidate knows, but HOW they approach situations and make decisions. McCain also has no experience with making military decisions that will affect millions, and he too, will be learning on the job. But considering out current state of international affairs, I would personally prefer a President and a Vice President that weigh options and make decisions without religion clouding their judgment. Twenty percent of our VPs have become President by either death or resignation (9 total), so it is clearly important to vet Palin and Biden for their potential ability to run our country.

    Being a simple patriot will not help anyone when faced with life-or-death situations involving our military and civilians. Being an educated and thoughtful patriot who will objectively approach decisions with the utmost care for our country, will.

  • Posted By: Kaniraq @ 09/22/2008 3:33:58 PM

    I get the feeling it is the elites that should own America and keep our women folk as premevial human beings. As be it, I don't have a Harvard Degree, I guess I don't qulaify to make a statement as that, let alone I am an Alaska Native with only a BIA High School Diplolma. It's about time that we see and hear a high office candidate as American as can be. Let alone live off the land as did the ancestors of Anglo-Saxon when they were free country in my native land of whom they had no choice to accept food and place to stay as if they did not they would have perished.

    Politically I don't agree with most of Governor Palin's policies, but isn't about time that our Government Serve us equally and not someone's goal, as the "No child left behind" law and leave the teaching and upbringing to parents and teachers not Federal Government ditation. I can see the possibility of Governor Palin getting in as VP of US may be rocking the boat of "Good ole Boys" in our Government.

    Candidates like her we need and get them into high office as our own government have gotten away from working for our Country and it's true American People. Many Anglo-Saxon ancesters did not work for their own, but work as community, common people, loving people and God fearing people. We need to re-educate ourselves that first elected officials who create the free government today years ago, were religous renegades who took a chance of finding a place to exercise their belief in God freely and with out persecution. America needs to get back to that freedom to worship without being accused of not being Muislum or Islam. The other thing "the elite" in our government needs to be shaken up because that what our Country have as free as a bird, we elect them and then we elect them out, the only ones that are still in the government are the appointment ones by the administration and administration and they get trenched into their permanent Jobs and get to thinking that they are in those position as long as they can and think they own the Government. Golly, the "Good Ole Boy System in Washington D.C" must be shaken up with the possibility of Gov Palin getting in the high office. Isn't that what this free County all about?

  • Posted By: DUMPLIN @ 09/22/2008 3:16:32 PM

    VERY GOOD MR. HARRIS, NOW WHERE IS YOUR CLOSER LOOK AT BARACK OBAMA AND HIS RECEIVING THE SECOND LARGEST PAYOUT FROM FREDDIE MAC AND FANNIE MAE. A JUNIOR SENATOR RECEIVING HUGE AMOUNTS FROM A DEMOCRATIC PIGGY BANK DOESN'T ALARM YOU? IF YOU WERE ABLE TO TRACE THIS MORTGAGE BAILOUT TO A REPUBLICAN IT WOULD BE ALL OVER THE NEWS. THERE WOULD AN INQUEST IN CONGRESS AND ALL KINDS OF MUD SLINGING. YOU NEED TO LOOK CLOSER AND FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL AT WHO IS BEHIND THIS. WHY DO THE DEMOCRATS DO NOTHING BUT WANT TO MAKE THE AMERICAN TAX PAYER PAY FOR THEIR MISTAKES. THE DEMOCRATS WANT TO SOCIALIZE OUR ECONOMY AND THIS IS JUST ANOTHER WAY TO INCREASE THEIR POWER AND STRANGLEHOLD ON AMERICAN CITIZENS. YOU HAVE COMMUNISM, SOCIALISM AND CAPITALISM AND THE "JOURNALISTS" IN THIS COUNTRY SEEK ONLY TO ADVANCE THEIR SOCIALISTIC LEANINGS WITH THEIR LACK OF TELLING THE WHOLE TRUTH, EVEN TO THE POINT OF LYING BY OMISSION OF THE FACTS. OBAMA IS A COMMUNIST AND SEEKS TO DESTROY THIS NATION AND ITS' CAPITALIST SYSTEM. BY TAKING OVER AND CONTROLLING THE WEALTH OF THIS COUNTRY. IF YOU THINK COMMUNISM IS SO WONDERFUL GO LIVE IN CHINA, OR NORTHA KOREA AND SEE FIRST HAND HOW IT DOESN'T WORK. I CHOOSE TO HAVE A COUNTRY WHERE PEOPLE ARE FREE TO ACT FOR THEMSELVE WITHOUT GOVERNMENT MAKING DECISIONS FOR ME. BELIEVE ME YOU ARE NOT SMARTER THAN I AM!!

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:33:23 PM

      I'M SHOUTING AGAIN!!! LISTEN TO ME!! LOOK AT ME!!

      Make sure you gripe about Obama winning in November with all caps. So you're consistent.

  • Posted By: Baked Alaska @ 09/22/2008 3:33:19 PM

    Thanks for this moment of sanity ! I am an ordinary citizen with a BA in geography, a one-time hockey mom, a one-time PTA president , and now a school trustee. I relate to Palin because she is a woman but not for a moment do I think I am VP material. NOR IS SHE !

  • Posted By: TerryONolley @ 09/22/2008 11:53:02 AM

    She is still more qualified than Hussein Obama

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 09/22/2008 3:31:47 PM

      Enter Your Comment
      There you go. Dead giveaway that you are a bigot. Foreign names are very scary aren't they?

    • Posted By: bdcgal @ 09/22/2008 12:05:03 PM

      BIGOT!!!! You make me sick. OBAMA/HOPE/08

  • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:30:34 PM

    Why is it that some people are praising this article? The article does nothing but draw more sympathy towards Palin. It is insulting to democrats. We can do better than making personal insults of Palin. Let's see hwo she does in interviews and debates. Let her prove or disprove her case.

  • Posted By: justaguywithavoice @ 09/22/2008 3:30:22 PM

    I thought it was the tactics of the Republican party to "scare the masses" into conformity? Does Sarah Palin have the Democratic Intelligensia so scared that they have to resort to open speculation, supposition, and outright "fearmongering." Why is the govenor of Alaska so unprepared to become the the Vice President, when the Governor of Arkansas (Clinton) and the Governor of Georgia (Carter) had similar if not less foreign policy experience than Sarah Palin. At least her state borders a foreign power.

  • Posted By: tnvoter @ 09/22/2008 3:30:16 PM

    And what has Obama done??????????? With all of his intelligence and his vision for America, what has he done in his 3 years in Washington? What are his accomplishments? Why aren't you asking the same type of questions of Obama?

  • Posted By: tomanjeri @ 09/22/2008 3:30:15 PM

    Sarah Palin, and many of those who so support her, are being played for fools by the McCain campaign and the strategists that engineered her VP pick. They know they can play to their emotions and that they will fall for it. It's sad to see such a large segment of this country so easily get the wool pulled over their eyes so quickly. It would be one thing if she were vetted in the national public square for a few years, but these folks immediately and without hesitation put their trust in her and the wolves in sheep clothing manipulating the scene.

  • Posted By: klavigne @ 09/22/2008 3:22:15 PM

    You really want to bring churches back into this. I think Rev Wright would love to be in the spot light again, there goes your whole theory about beliefs. Try again!

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:28:05 PM

      Instead of church, let's talk about secession.

  • Posted By: independentthinker1813 @ 09/22/2008 2:30:27 PM

    Again, if you believe in GOD you are not a fanatic. Most I continue to repeat how insulting this is to almost 80% of Americans?

    • Posted By: ctpjs99 @ 09/22/2008 2:54:20 PM

      If you think that you have good reasons to be a Christian then why are you offended? If somebody openly believes in aliens or a flying spaghetti monster they are mocked, but when people believe in an imaginary deity in the sky that created the earth 7,000 years ago and continues to overlook and guide all 6 billion people on earth with no reasonable evidence whatsoever that is somehow untouchable to criticism. You ignore an overwhelming amount of evidence that your religion is a farce and you expect some kind of respect?

      • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 3:27:35 PM

        Excellent reply. Obviously you have read Sam Harris before.

    • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/22/2008 2:41:17 PM

      But if you're one of those dripping, judgemental Fundamentalist, you're probably pretty crazy. I, to date have not met a reasonable one.

  • Posted By: plaasjaapie @ 09/22/2008 3:27:34 PM

    Pathetic. I expected better of Hitchins, somehow.

  • Posted By: vo1itw @ 09/22/2008 3:22:25 PM

    Hey, thanks for the great article! Before reading it, I wasn't completely sure who I was going to vote for; however, you made my decision VERY simple for me. Thank God for people like you and Sarah Palin (not necessarily in that order)!!! We might survive these wacked out liberals yet!?!?!?!

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:27:29 PM

      Totally!!

      Vote GOBAMA!!

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