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  • Posted By: wisdomequalsquestioning @ 09/22/2008 3:27:27 PM

    Fabulous article with an unfortunate title that will make many people not give it the credit it deserves. The fact the author may be atheist is completely irrelevant to the marvelous points made. I too am terrified that many Americans would rather elect a president that they can drink beer with or one that they like to look at because she is pretty, rather than someone who has the skills and qualifications to do the job well.

  • Posted By: northwesterner @ 09/22/2008 3:26:56 PM

    I can respect Palin for her tenacity and for her willingness to clean up the previous Republican mess in her state, I truely can. However, to say you are ready without blinking simply because you feel confident in yourself, ONLY because you feel confident is just plain scary to me. Any other candidate, in fact EVERY other candidate in history!, has answered that question with a list of embellished experiences in governing. I am personally offended by her selection, not becuase she is a bad person, simply because she is not even remotely ready for the job.

    I just asked a local mayor in my area who is mayor of a town of 12,000 people if he were ready to be the VP, he just laughed.

  • Posted By: mccainbacker @ 09/22/2008 1:32:06 PM

    Interesting that Barack Obama has less experience, yet since he met some people overseas, he is more qualified? Just because he went to an Ivy League School, he would do a better job? She has done more than Obama in almost every aspect of the job requirement, and she is not even the head of the ticket!

    • Posted By: fccFH @ 09/22/2008 3:25:57 PM

      Write up a comparison, lets see it.

  • Posted By: RightThinkingWoman @ 09/22/2008 11:37:07 AM

    Well written as it is, Sam Harris is just dripping with scorn and contempt for Palin. He is blinded by it, in fact. Barack Obama's ivy league education as proof that he is intelligent is hardly qualification for Presidency. His so-called community organizing skills in the Chicago political machine followed by his celebrity treatment up the ranks in the state legislature and into the U/S. Senate is more frightening to me, then someone who had actual accountability as a mayor and Governor.

    "I care even more about the many things Palin thinks she knows but doesn't: like her conviction that the Biblical God consciously directs world events." I've got news for Harris. Most of the founders of our country believed this as well.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 12:04:33 PM

      Let's see what Palin has to say in debates and interviews about how her religion transfers (if at all) to her policies. Articles like this do nothing but promote Palin. I am not a Palin supporter, but I can't understand why people think this kind of snobbish fear mongering arrogance is going to change the mind of undecided voters in Obama's favor. It is completely off topic.

      • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 09/22/2008 12:26:52 PM

        FYI...Palin has already specifically said that although she has a personal relationship with Jesus Christ that has changed her life, she does not wear it on her sleeve or shove it down others' throats. This was specifically addressed in her interview with Sean Hannity recently.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:25:45 PM

          I heard her entire interview, and I welcome the opportunity to learn more about her

    • Posted By: gulsbyja @ 09/22/2008 11:44:09 AM

      Still doesn't make it true!

  • Posted By: Gwen R @ 09/22/2008 3:25:19 PM

    Oh, Question1, he knows exactly what he's talking about. I was raised in Assembly of God churches.

    In Sarah Palin, we have a potential president who does not believe in thinking things through rationally if those things might possibly disagree with AoG doctrine.. In AoG churches, such thinking is known as "doubt" and doubting is a sin.

    I don't know if any of the ordinary Christians in the US really know the extend of Palin's mania for end-times or how her strong fear of God's imminent wrath led her politics. This isn't Christianity, it's fanatism.

  • Posted By: PoliticAl @ 09/22/2008 12:00:39 PM

    I love the article ... BUT, I am concerned about the integrity of the details when the issue of Gov Palin opposes the right to an abortion in the event of rape based on this article: http://townhall.com/Columnists/AmandaCarpenter/2008/09/11/the_palin_rape_kit_myth?page=full&comments=true

    With so many "facts" coming from left and right, I'd suggest taking out the statement about her stance on abortion in the event of rape and keep this, otherwise, on an even keel. Then, it will be undeniably powerful in its entirety.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 12:12:55 PM

      Governor Palin told Charlie Gibson she thinks abortion should be a states rights issue

      • Posted By: PoliticAl @ 09/22/2008 12:26:51 PM

        I'm talking about the issue of "abortion in the issue of rape or incest". Where does she really stand on that issue - until we know it from her mouth, it's a divisive statement of uncertainty. So, get it out of the article and then the article stands as fact-full.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 12:44:21 PM

          Fact full ? It's a poorly written article. It drags out the same old wedge issues we are sick of hearing about. Hit Palin on substance, where she is really weak, not on this personal nonsense.

          • Posted By: PoliticAl @ 09/22/2008 1:31:12 PM

            The author illustrates her resolve to follow her God and if not by God's words, she'll take instruction solely from her party - the group in her party to the farthest right wing as possible.

            • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:24:34 PM

              What do you base that on? Let's hear what she has to say in interviews and debates. This article plays right into the republican's hands by drawing more sympathy to Palin

  • Posted By: independentthinker1813 @ 09/22/2008 1:47:56 PM

    Considering that 33% of the world and 78% of the United States are Christian, I find it insulting that Sara Palin's regilious beliefs are expressed as dogma and more importantly belittled. I beleive in GOD and so does an overwhelming majority of the United States.

    It would be refreshing to see an article that provides a side-by-side comparison of Joe Biden's a Sara Palin's experience as well as Obama and John. It seems to be liberals prefer to speak in generalities so the focus is not on the issues. I am independent who would appreciate a little fairness, which so far can not be found in Newsweek, MSNBC or the New York Times.

    • Posted By: Robert L. Brockett @ 09/22/2008 3:23:31 PM

      You miss the point. Just as there are extremes in political theory (Communism, Fascism, etc.), there are extremes in theological theory. To hide all under the kindly umbrella of "Christian" is wrong. We're talking eschatology here. These people are far more deluded than the average believer. I know. I was raised and baptised in a Pentecostal church. While their literal interpretation of the Bible is shared by a number of other Christian sects, their interpretation of the Book of Revelation is not. They defer nothing to science except where it will benefit them directly (money or medicine). They have still to even try understanding basic biology, believing that to do so is actually sinful. Make no mistake: if given their way, these are the book burners among us.

    • Posted By: fccFH @ 09/22/2008 3:19:49 PM

      Just one more side note- I am surprised you make the statement that liberals prefer to speak in generalities rather than focus on the issues- when deterring people from focusing on the issues has been the conservative platform thus far. And also, out of curiosity, do you find fox news fair? Maybe if you flip between the sites real fast you will find some balance.

    • Posted By: fccFH @ 09/22/2008 3:15:27 PM

      The concern really is not her beliefs, but how she would infuse them into politics where a separation of church and state is necessary in running this country, as it was founded on those values. A further concern is how religion would play a role with her dealing with other countries, especially those that we are at war with and have clear religious disagreements. Education, science advancement and technology have suffered under Bush- he even rid the science chair position from his administration- this country was once the leader in technological and scientific advancement and we are quickly falling behind- whether religion has played a role in this is moot- but what is relevant is Palins knowledge and own concern for these issues- and thus far she has expressed none. We need someone in an executive position whose values are for Americas betterment, and quite frankly religion has no role in that- these other subjects do.

      The side-by-side comparison has been conducted on many sites - Palin does not fair well, and despite McCain???s years of experience, his flip-flopping record (sounds eerily familiar) paints a rather ugly picture. Obama, okay doesn???t have the years (or age of McCain) in the senate, but people are quick to forget his years in the Illinois senate, and as a law professor, and his career has been consistent and full of achievements- but the person that I am surprised you feel would fumble under Palin is Biden. His record snubs them all. Just do some research- there is too much to write on this post. He has a pretty remarkable history in American politics. And as Palin grows in popularity, if we really are going to make the mistake of making this a VP battle, rather than a Presidential battle, Biden should win by a landslide.

    • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 2:04:39 PM

      Just because millions believe in Christianity doesn't grant Christianity immunity from being belittled. Truth is not created by a majority vote. It does not need a single person to believe in it to exist. Likewise beliefs do not cease to be dogma the moment a percentage of the world population believes in it.

      just read this article?

      Did you



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    • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 2:02:34 PM

      Just because millions believe in Christianity doesn't grant Christianity immunity from being belittled. Truth is not created by a majority vote. It does not need a single person to believe in it to exist. Likewise beliefs do not cease to be dogma the moment a percentage of the world population believes in it.

      just read this article?

      Did you



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  • Posted By: momof204 @ 09/22/2008 12:04:30 PM

    I think Sarah Palin is EXACTLY what this country needs.....someone who hasn't bought into the Washington politics. Better than any community organizer! She's tough as nails; McCain made a great choice! & by the by...just becasue his father died at 71...doenst mean McCain will.
    Go McCain/Palin!

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 12:11:45 PM

      McCain;s mother is still alive at 96. I don't understand why people assume McCain will die before 2013

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/22/2008 12:45:15 PM

        Because the odds say he will. Some folks live to 96 and smoke, eat nothing but red meat and sit on their butts all day. Most folks will die.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:23:15 PM

          The odds of a reasonably healthy 72 year old living to age 76 are excellent

  • Posted By: Toilet @ 09/22/2008 12:29:27 PM

    Palin is wonderful if were picking the head of the PTA, she is an airhead, and not to be seated in the second most powerful position in the world, send he back to Alaska where she can build another useless hockey stadium and shoot moose as they walk past her yard. I would have more respect for her and would trust her more if she did the following things
    1. Talk to more than two reporters (Hannity is a commentator and a biased one)
    2. Talk candidly with the press
    3. Stop being just a teleprompter queen and take a serious look at Mr McCain and his erratic policy changes every day " I;m for regulation, no wait I am for deregulation"


    Her days are numbered as she will soon go against Biden and some real questions at the debate, her balloon is deflating and her and McSame will never be in office...you heard it hear first..

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 12:35:23 PM

      My guess is you would not vote for McCain Palin regardless. However, for those of us who are still undecided, your points 1 and 2 are excellent. I only wish Obama had done more debates with Hillary and had agreed to town hall meetings with McCain. As a relative unknown, I would think both Obama and Palin would want to provide every opportunity possible for us to get to know them better, even if it requires some risk.
      Obama's European tour, speech in Mile High Stadium, and snubbing Hillary for VP have shown an arrogance I personally find troubling. I hope he shows more humility as the campaign winds down.

      • Posted By: bradsbabe @ 09/22/2008 1:08:06 PM

        Obama did not snub Hillary for the VP pick. She did not want the job - she has said it, her closest advisors have said she did not want the VP position. The vetting process would have opened her and more importantly, Bill, up to intense scrutiny of business and financial dealings. The Dems at least took the VP vetting very seriously and it was a lengthly process - unlike the GOP.

        • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:21:54 PM

          If that were true Hillary would have said it publicly. Hillary would have put her country first and her interests second, and she would have accepted the position. She has released more information about her finance than anyone else before her

    • Posted By: SPORTLOCK09 @ 09/22/2008 12:44:51 PM

      If your post was true then why do you appear so scared and desperate? And as far as you respecting Palin, makes no difference. You are in the bag for Obama. Do your legs shake also when he speaks? And before you go mentioning teleprompters I would suggest you take a good look at Obama without his. Funny thing you Dims are. Experience didn't matter up until you figured Obama obtianed it from the Dim mess you guy called a primary. Then as your leg shakes because of a bunch of retoric he couldn't achieve in 4 terms, you have the audacity to say Palin needs a teleprompter? Thank you, I needed a laugh this morning.

      • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/22/2008 12:59:10 PM

        Listen to Mr. Sportslock09, he's an aficionado in all things stupid "Dims" are. He's smart. Really he is. His dad taught him to never walk away from a fight, and to hurt people when he feels insulted, so he's level-headed and without bias. Really.

  • Posted By: justaguywithavoice @ 09/22/2008 3:21:47 PM

    The Democrats say the Republicans prey on fear to keep the masses in line, but it's ok to go off into supposition and speculation as to how Palin will behave as President (which is not the office for which she is running). I suppose that Bill Clinton or Jimmy Carter extensive experience in foreign relations while in office in Arkansas and Georgia. Palin would learn on the job by watching McCain and his Cabinet. Obama will have to learn on the job too so what is the difference?

  • Posted By: stick2basics @ 09/22/2008 3:21:40 PM

    This guy should be writing a book called: "HOW TO GET THE FACTS BEFORE WRITING A STORY FOR DUMMIES"

  • Posted By: dmorris@cebridge.net @ 09/22/2008 12:49:43 PM

    Don't all of you libs believe that Ivy League educated, George W. Bush is an idiot? How does that make Obama better, smarter, more intellectual? If anyone thinks that making laws in Illinois and for a couple of years in Washington makes one an economic or foreign policy expert, you are fooling yourself. Making laws in Illinois may prepare you to make laws in Washington, but it does not prepare you to lead. I would argue that leading in Alaska prepares you to become a leader in Washington. Leadership is the quality that Obama lacks and has never shown.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:20:38 PM

      GW never made an effort to take advantage of all Daddy gave him.

      Obama succeeded at fully taking advantage of every opportunity he earned through working his ass off.

    • Posted By: chris s. @ 09/22/2008 3:06:23 PM

      Enter Your Comment
      The difference is Bushs' father bought his son's entrance into Yale and George frittered it away and didn't study. Obama actually earned his way into his college and cracked the books to earn high marks. It could be called making good decisions and working by some.

    • Posted By: mebejoe @ 09/22/2008 1:22:31 PM

      Yes, George W. Bush is an idiot.

    • Posted By: another mother @ 09/22/2008 12:56:05 PM

      college does not an education make!

  • Posted By: stick2basics @ 09/22/2008 3:20:06 PM

    I think this guy should be writing a book called...how to get the facts before I write for dummies.

  • Posted By: non-elitist @ 09/22/2008 3:15:55 PM

    I am an avowed liberal who understands why America shuns elitism: it has done nothing but line the pockets of "well-intentioned" politicians who care about their own welfare and not that of the nation. This new populism is a threat to those "iin the know." I am a reluctant Obama supporter (I was a Hilllary fan after I realized that Kucinich was on a publicity tour) who believes that "the suits" have done very little for our country. Who put us in this precarious position, anyway except the elitiist politicians, Yale and Harvard educated -- who have shown no ability to run anything but their mouths.

    I am not in favor of a McCain/Palen ticket, but I can see why America is rushing toward Palin. Maybe it's time for a female "under-achiever" (as if being elected Governor is nothing). Male kooks have been running the show for centuries thus far... is she any more dangerous? Alaska appears to still be a part of the USA (throngs of opponents notwithstanding). The more you hype Sarah Palin and her frailties, the more America votes for the underdog. Anyone who could think that celbrated do-nothing Forrest Gump taught us anything ("life is a box of chocolates") or that an actor or wrestler can be Governor and//or President of a country, should forever keep their mouths closed. I have no doubt that Governor-***-Vice-President-*** President-Palin wouuld find many of her powers circumscribed by males in Congress. Elitism is dead in America, anyway -- it wasn't arournd when Hillary Clinton was denied her throne of power and would do the same to Palin. Their are no elites in America -- had there been any, we would not be in Iraq.

  • Posted By: Mom2geniuses @ 09/22/2008 1:28:10 PM

    Hmmmm lets see, Obama... gifted program in Hawaii, president of Harvard Law Review, top of his class at Harvard University, (which requires intelligence above the 97%) professor of law at a major university,or Sarah Palin...umm beauty queen, multiple pregnancies, multiple colleges, sportcaster for a couple of week, mayor of a town of what maybe 1000 people not counting the wildlife. And she charged rape victims for the rape test kits...Yes I can see it's a hard decision...

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/22/2008 3:15:25 PM

      Compare Obama to McCain, and Biden to Palin.

      Otherwise you're playing into the right-wing media's hands.

  • Posted By: Slimmie @ 09/22/2008 2:19:52 PM

    Wow, good stuff. Now replaces Palin's name with Obama and changes some words as to Obama's life and you will see Obama is also not fit to be President! So where does that leaves us? McCain for President with Biden as VP?

    • Posted By: vmac @ 09/22/2008 2:36:03 PM

      Obama has been a Law Proffesor, An Illinois State Senator, A United States Senator--has run and managed and won a campaign against the Clinton dynasty--and has done that in more time than Palin has been Governor. She was Mayor of a town smaller than my cities High School Alumni. The City Hall is the size of a one-bedroom home.--Give me a break. If Obama was not half-black, this race would be a landslide. If McCain-Palin succeed, this country will be the laughing stock of the World, and in much worst shape than it's in now under Bush.--I hope Obama doesn't win to have to deal with what these Repubs have left for Bush's successor--

      • Posted By: David in Florida @ 09/22/2008 3:15:04 PM

        I don't like Palin, but she has made decisions in her career, Obama has yet to draft a single piece of real legislation. He hasn't earned the top seat yet. You need to prove yourself for that. Neither has Palin, but she isn't trying for the top. McCain is damned because he backed Bush over the war, but so too did Biden. McCain and Biden actually work well together.

  • Posted By: jrob1215 @ 09/22/2008 2:40:38 PM

    you seem to gorget that George Washington consulted God on a daily and "Extremist" way, Abraham Lincoln prayed every day. i believe that you should take a look at past presidents and not only point to george bush. we have traditionally had leaders who were devout in their faith. i would say that most still did a good job. you would be rather naive mr. harris to beleive that because she is devout in her faith that she can not do a good job, and this is why you and your liberal buddies in journalism will lose this election for obama, you insult the majority of americans by putting religion down in such a way.

    • Posted By: 1paronomasia @ 09/22/2008 3:14:56 PM

      Abraham Lincoln was accused by Stephen Douglas of not believing in God. Lincoln did not go to church. I have read a couple of Lincoln biographies because I admire the man and it seems that historians conclude that he was at worst agnostic at best an atheist.

    • Posted By: ShripathiKamath @ 09/22/2008 2:49:31 PM

      You are naive because you likely did not read the article, or if you did, you need to explain why you would choose someone who is obviously so uneducated.

      Do you run to your pastor when you have a medical emergency? Do you think that since the medical care in the country has deteriorated, it is time for "a new reform -- seek your pastor"?

      If not, is there something wrong with having faith?

  • Posted By: arw78 @ 09/22/2008 3:12:25 PM

    I, too, have HUGE concerns over Sarah Palin being "a heartbeat away from the precidency."

    From listening to her acceptance speach at the convention I could literally hear the on-going Bush doctrine (which of course she knows little to nothing about). Come to find out her speach was written by.....well, you figure it out. When you take away the teleprompter and the writer you have the bare essence of the person and their thoughts. THAT's what Charles Gibson came face-to-face with in his interview her Sarah Palin. Scary!!!!

    Second, would the American public put up with as inexperienced male candidate??? Never! BUT because she's a woman it is totally a "maverick" move to push upon the American public. Foreign policy will eat her lunch....and dinner and breakfast as well. She will become no better than the policy advisors that would make up the cabinet and we all know that would be lead by the Republican leadership. Does this sound to anyone else as the "same ole same ole" party line???? New??? Maverick???? I don't think so.

    As far as her religious convictions we are seeing the cullmination of the religious fervor that is sweeping the nation. Is it genuine? Probably. Is that what we want from our President/Vice President? No. That is not what I believe the Founding Father's would have promoted. "God's will" and "guidance" have been the rallying cry of Christians for over 2000 years. Just look no further than the Crusades to see how far we can take our convictions. And even better now since WE have nuclear weapons!!!! Yea to US!!!!

    I have always prided myself on being a repsonsible voting American. My roots???? My grandparents were stanch Democrats and my parents were Republicans. Me???? I'm an independant thinker who looks for and votes based upon platform and the candidate. Will I be voting Republicanthis year? Not hardly. John McCain is so far removed the trials and tribulations of the average American citizen that's it scary. And add in the fact that he chose as his running mate a very inexperienced political candidate. Do I want this for my President? NO!

    Sen Obama and the Democratic party? Do they get my vote? Well, the jury is still out. Right now I'm praying that listed on my ballot will be "None of the Above" since there does not appear to be a clear "winner" in this case.

  • Posted By: singingfrog66 @ 09/22/2008 2:55:20 PM

    I do not want to live in a theocracy, period. And I agree with Mr. Harris completely in his assessment that if the Obamas had a pregnant teen daughter, the Republicans would have immediately and unequivocally turned it into a "family-values" "black irresponsibility" issue. The hypocrisy makes my blood boil.

    • Posted By: News and Notes @ 09/22/2008 3:10:57 PM

      Relax, hypocracy has benefitted Obama as well. Howard Dean said talking about Obama's religion was racist. That is hypocracy.

  • Posted By: TeamTexas @ 09/22/2008 3:10:50 PM

    ..."foreordained cataclysm of war and bad weather." -- Wow, we're NOT experiencing THOSE right now, are we?

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