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  • Posted By: eshmorhun @ 09/22/2008 10:04:25 AM

    Gene-Fairfax, Va.
    Finally an article that explores the essence of the financial meltdown. Democrats including Obama, Frank, and Clinton irresponsibly allowed their vision of homes for everyone, including those who simply could not afford one, to drag the entire financial system down. Only McCain and two co-sponsors of the bill to reign in Freddy and Fannie stood up to do what is right for America. Watching Obama blame Bush is laughable.
    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&refer=columnist_hassett&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0#

  • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 09/22/2008 10:01:44 AM

    Darman, you ignorance shines through. This country is not conservative. On the issues alone, polls consistently show a leftward lean of the majority of Americans. Repulicans themselves are not really conservative. They just say they are. Reagan signed the California law legalizing abortion. Nixon oversaw the largest expansion of federal government until the current Bush who is currently overseeing the Socialist takeover of our largest economic sector, financial services to the tune of Billions of taxpayer money. Anyone who can write with a straight face that we are getting conservative government and not government growth and intrusion is living in la la land. Again, I repeat, McCain is not conservative. Bush is not conservative. If the public thinks they are voting conservative by voting for these candidates then they are ignorant.

  • Posted By: JoanR @ 09/22/2008 9:10:52 AM

    Tohear the democrats and their amen corner in the media talk they havn't actually lost a Presidential election fairly since 1984. In 88 it was Willie Horton, in 00 it was the BIg Lie that Gore actually won Fla.In 04 Kerry was "swiftboated".This year, they are already preparing the excuse that white who don't vote for Obama are racists although his 90%+ share f the black vote is just popularity speaking.Therse hypocrites lose regularly because they deserve to

  • Posted By: pumapurr @ 09/21/2008 10:08:07 AM

    "Center-right"? The center *defines* itself. The "center-right" is in fact the center. It gets proved time and again in presidential elections. This article makes that case. But (as usual) then absurdly ignores it and adjusts the actual center to be "center-right". Why? Because then lefty views can be called "center" views and as a bonus you can define everyone else as right-wing. You're the "norm". Even though facts show you never are.

    This is like observing that it is very rainy this year - not the "normal" rainfall. Then you look at the rainfall records and note that it rains pretty much this amount almost every year. For the past 50 years. So it is, by definition, normal. Yet the media runs the article "Unusually Rainy This Year". And then they run it again next year. And next, and next, and next.

    But that doesn't stop the rain. And this year it's rainin' McCain. Oh yes.


    • Posted By: Texan99 @ 09/22/2008 9:06:07 AM

      Exactly. "Center right" means "where most of the country is, which happens to be to the right of where I, a journalist, believe it should be."

  • Posted By: xcept4allothers @ 09/22/2008 8:51:35 AM

    Republican open primaries allowed them to vote in a centrist candidate this year, while the Democrat process brought them a far left candidate. If the president is to succeed he must see the value of the arguments on both sides to come up with bipartisan solutions to our problems. Rarely does a leftist or a rightist solutions truly work. How can a far left president truly bring both sides together. Answer: he won't.

  • Posted By: csude @ 09/22/2008 8:49:39 AM

    Wow I was agreeing with this article unitl the last two sentenses or so "proper role of the state". This is still a center-right country and democrats won back congress by running centerist in republican districts and this also how democrats get elected president by moving to the center. The problem is the party has been high jacked by the far left fringe of the party that is too radical and their policies do not appeal to the rest of the nation.

  • Posted By: Dave from ME @ 09/22/2008 8:35:50 AM

    1 -- it's because Republicans have put up better candidates, not necessarily better ideas.
    2 -- you brush right over Gore / Bush which was 50 - 50 liberal - conservative.
    3 -- Obama would not be neck and neck with McCain if he was white.
    4 -- we have a REALLY big government, it has grown drastically over the last 30 years, and it won't go away.
    have a

  • Posted By: Dave from ME @ 09/22/2008 8:35:06 AM

    1 -- it's because Republicans have put up better candidates, not necessarily better ideas.
    2 -- you brush right over Gore / Bush which was 50 - 50 liberal - conservative.
    3 -- Obama would not be neck and neck with McCain if he was white.
    4 -- we have a REALLY big government, it has grown drastically over the last 30 years, and it won't go away.
    have a

  • Posted By: terracognita @ 09/22/2008 7:24:07 AM

    "For the first time in 40 years, the left has a real chance to sway the center's notion of the proper role of the state." This sentence, tucked away at the end, along with the mention that Nixon was the beginning of this "center-right" nation", reveals the main thrust of the article (as described in the sub-header) as problematic, if not outright false. It's distinctly possible that 2008 will represent the end of the 40-year "center-right" era.

  • Posted By: josh62 @ 09/22/2008 6:29:02 AM

    One of CNN's leading Obama sychophants, Candy Crowley, let the cat out of the Obama bag, when she told viewers that the Obama campaign had wanted horrific Wall Street headlines to help their campaign. Crowley, and fellow Obama sychophant David Gergen, were extolling the virtues of bad economic news for the Obama campaign.

    Of course, no one would expect CNN to actually deal with the issue of who or what party is responsible for the economy. No, their template is the economy is horrible, we are going to blame Bush and McCain and Obama will benefit.

    The Drudge Report had this story on its site this morning, it had been pulled. Drudge realized how bad this would look for the Obama campaign.

    It's beyond audacious that we have one candidate for President who is full of hope. Hope that the economy is so bad, that he can win an election because of it. The conservative internet has its work cut out for it for the next 53 days.

  • Posted By: josh62 @ 09/22/2008 6:28:38 AM

    Barack Obama privately tried to persuade Iraqi political leaders to stall an agreement on scaling back American troops in Iraq while publicly campaigning for a speedy withdrawal, Obama???s campaign is not a train wreck; it???s Chernobyl.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bKqHFk-3yQM

  • Posted By: mnjam @ 09/22/2008 2:00:52 AM

    This article is a series of half truths:
    1. It is true that the US has been "center-right" as a result of the end of the post-war economic boom.
    2. It is only half -true that Nixon inaugurated this shift. Nixon was a "Great Society" Republican -- the last great ""Liberal President." On the other the hand, he initiated the "southern strategy" which "conservative" Republicans have used to dominate their party and win elections.
    3. It is not true that Democrats have won as ???centrist custodians??? of center-right philosphy. Democrats, like Republicans, have attempted to respond to end of post-war growth with a public philosphy from NewDeal/Great Society liberalism AND from which differs from both Reaganite conservatism. They have won to the extent they have had candidates able to get this across to the electorate, e.g. Bill Clinton. Obama does not greatly differ. Additionally, this involves a Western Strategy analogous to the Repubican Southern Strategy. The Southern Strategy has led to Democratic dominance in the North. IF Democrats can capture the West, where they have had persistent and increasing success since Clinton (the Pacific Coast, now solid Blue, was very Red, and the southwest is becoming Bluer), then they will be in a position to win the many elections.

  • Posted By: andthen @ 09/22/2008 1:35:22 AM

    actually, many polls suggest that the population as a whole agrees with democrats on all the major economic and foreign policy issues, as well as with the need for an expanded governmental role to address major economic, infrastructure, and health-care related matters. The ease with which the republican soul-sucking slime machine (which did indeed hit full stride with Nixon) hijacks the process, especially in the absence of a responsible press critique of repeated lies ( say for instance in the manner of your contentless parroting of republican talking points in this article ), suggests that an overhaul of the american political process is in order, i agree ... but saying it requires revolution is a not so subtle, and indeed again treacherous way of saying that anyone who is profoundly critical of the reagan/bush/bush policies is essentially a lefty radical ... atwater rove in sorry sober drag ... this is really a big part of the problem ...

  • Posted By: andthen @ 09/22/2008 1:33:21 AM

    actually, many polls suggest that the population as a whole agrees with democrats on all the major economic and foreign policy issues, as well as with the need for an expanded governmental role to address major economic, infrastructure, and health-care related matters. The ease with which the republican soul-sucking slime machine (which did indeed hit full stride with Nixon) hijacks the process, especially in the absence of a responsible press critique of repeated lies ( say for instance in the manner of your contentless parroting of republican talking points in this article ), suggests that an overhaul of the american political process is in order, i agree ... but saying it requires revolution is a not so subtle, and indeed again treacherous way of saying that anyone who is profoundly critical of the reagan/bush/bush policies is essentially a lefty radical ... atwater rove in sorry sober drag ... this is really a big part of the problem ...

  • Posted By: bonanno1983 @ 09/22/2008 1:33:15 AM

    I also forgot to add that the lad has no executive experience besides organizing baseball games and picnics in a small Chicago community.

  • Posted By: andthen @ 09/22/2008 1:32:23 AM

    actually, many polls suggest that the population as a whole agrees with democrats on all the major economic and foreign policy issues, as well as with the need for an expanded governmental role to address major economic, infrastructure, and health-care related matters. The ease with which the republican soul-sucking slime machine (which did indeed hit full stride with Nixon) hijacks the process, especially in the absence of a responsible press critique of repeated lies ( say for instance in the manner of your contentless parroting of republican talking points in this article ), suggests that an overhaul of the american political process is in order, i agree ... but saying it requires revolution is a not so subtle, and indeed again treacherous way of saying that anyone who is profoundly critical of the reagan/bush/bush policies is essentially a lefty radical ... atwater rove in sorry sober drag ... this is really a big part of the problem ...

  • Posted By: bonanno1983 @ 09/22/2008 1:28:43 AM

    Obama is the extremist of the extreme when it comes to the far left ideals. He is so far left that he is considered a socialist/communist by many. I mean, he has a North Korean flag hanging on the wall in one of his campaign offices for crying out loud. If that isn't scary, the man wants to rid the USA of our nuclear missile defense. Also, he wants to spend spend spend with money we don't have have have! All these things put together with the fact of his recent Freudian Slips is reason enough for me to realize he is no good for our country or this great Earth we live upon....

  • Posted By: Arbiter @ 09/22/2008 12:55:44 AM

    I don???t understand why being critical of your country when you see that there is something wrong with it is being anti-country, when that kind of freedom is not available to many people of the world in oppressive governments such as China or Burma.

    I don???t understand why being concerned with the state of the country and pointing to specifics failings in the economy and foreign relations is considered doom and gloom. A civil society is surely the place for such discussions.

    I don???t understand why in calling out a trend in the increasing disparity between the rich and the poor, and wanting to address the matter because ignoring it will just breed a discontent among the general population labels that person as being someone who is stoking class warfare.

    I don???t understand why believing in some of the principles of the Founding Fathers that is the freedom of speech and the belief in individual???s personal freedom is considered cultural warfare.

    I thought that the people of the United States of America we???re the shining beacon for freedom, but yet civil discourse is seen as unpatriotic here????

    I simply don???t understand it.

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 09/21/2008 5:50:16 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide the largest morgage bank in the world,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms. Also, Fanny and Freddy Mae which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash and we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before.

    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.

    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He either didn't care or didn't realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime.
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a tanking economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?


    The chairman of McCains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues they vote on a personality composite. Which means he is trying to sell you personality instead of results.

    He believes people will vote against their own interests.

    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .

    Hold them accountable NOW! while it will still help.

    Elect Obama Biden 2008

  • Posted By: Zig Zag @ 09/20/2008 6:46:45 PM

    Republican hypocrisy at it's best:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wQK1al91drs

    You gotta love John Stuart!

    • Posted By: AlanSrout @ 09/20/2008 10:06:27 PM

      PLEASE WATCH AND EMAIL THESE LINKS OUT **NOW** TO YOUR FAMILY, CO-WORKERS AND FRIENDS!!

      What Obama Thinks of White People (Must see!)
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lI77cU3jsFs

      Obama???s Pastor Celebrates 9/11 (explicit) Only 5 Days After 3,000 Americans Killed
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzhl-endvco

      Jeremiah Wright Says America Deserved 9/11
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l9HUdF9OZa8

      Obamas Racially-Divisive Pastor
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUbUBTlmAiA

      Obama Disrespecting U.S. Flag and Anthem
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8QCkgg5Kjo

      The Audacity of Barack Obama
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QwjnT4eJJvs

      The Audacity of Barack Obama 2
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VeC8BE-2T_k

      Is Obama Wright? - Pastor Wright and Senator Obama
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=72B3tUAqpo4

      Obama's Pastor - 9/11 Fault of Israel Association
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FnI431s1r6s

      Barack Obama: There Will Be Bamboozling
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YuB_W8o_UsU

      The Two Things Senator Obama Accomplished
      http://www.floppingaces.net/2008/02/27/obamas-empty-change-message/

      The Jeremiah Wright Lifetime Achievement Award
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Prhnc2fxAzg

      Gaza Strip Palestinians Campaigning for Obama
      http://youtube.com/watch?v=21YF7ggCG6g

      Barack Obama Doesn't Want His Daughters Punished With a Baby
      http://youtube.com/watch?v=eNzmly28Bmg

      Obama: Bitter Americans Cling to Guns and Religion
      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HNJAl8a3d9Q

      • Posted By: Caitlyn @ 09/21/2008 5:00:52 PM

        Ignorance begets ignorance.

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 09/21/2008 10:49:45 AM

      LMAO

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