The Changing Face of Abortion

The pregnant woman in question should have the right to decide whether to abort or not to abort an unwanted fetus - no one else needs to poke their nose in there. Only thing is - the ???aborter??? should be prepared for the physical and emotional distress whether temporary or permanent.
To all those who "wish to honor" a woman "as a woman and as a human being" - how about NOT using/abusing women for pleasure and getting them pregnant and then leaving them with the unwanted fetus/child? All your love for the women are putting women in trouble...
Margaret Sanger absolutely right - "War, famine, poverty and oppression of the workers will continue while woman makes life cheap. They will cease only when she limits her reproductivity and human life is no longer a thing to be wasted."
And whatever Bearfur's thoughts on how women should live is a load of crap - "This kind of destruction of the feminine wonders and treasures of womanhood will only be stopped when men get educated how they are to honor and protect women."
What "feminine wonders and treasures of womanhood" is he talking about?!! Looks like females are wonderful only if they reproduce - even if they dont want to - and the UTERUS is the treasure of womanhood - absolute crap. All these silly prehistoric notions wont get women anywhere.
Women need to understand why men do what they do and how women can protect themselves from the love shown by such wolves in "holy" clothing. Men have defined woman as wonderful when she is a mother, sister, daughter, etc. but not as an INDIVIDUAL, and women are lapping up this conditioning because they need to be adored by men. This is what ruins a perfectly happy life that women had led until they got involved with men and their lust. Love doesnt exist on this planet or anywhere else, but if you consider sex as love then yeah - too much love exists and it is all over the place.
VAMOM2-2 : Your "parasite" analogy is PERFECT - at least to those who hate getting pregnant or having kids.
Anything that can not survive without being attached to some life support system (in this instance - the unwilling mother) may or may not be put to sleep.
And even if there is a lot of cutting up and pain for the fetus, it is much much lesser than what that creature will go thru if s/he ends up being born into this shitty planet called earth.
Yup, birth control should be FREE ??? only, why should women only take all these contraceptive aids? Like many here have said, why are there no "pills" for men? All those men and women who dont want children but cant live without sex should get themselves "family planned".

Abortion rates for teenagers has also dropped because more teenagers are keeping their babies to rear themselves. There is no "stigma" any more for children rearing children. It has become quite the fashionable thing to do. I don't think many teenagers realize what a responsibility it is to rear a child when they make the choice to keep their child. Perhaps education about birth control should also include education about the responsibilities of parenthood at a very young age.

Reporting on abortion rates is only one part of the situation. For teens, have abortion rates dropped and birth rates gone up? For the 20s, has the abortion rate gone up and the birth rate gone up or down?

Also, according to a different report a month or two ago, the Caucasian population is declining while the populations of various minorites are rising in the U.S. Is the issue that abortion rates of teens droping for only Caucasians or for minorities or both?

This is a long stream of messages; I'll have to run through the rest of them later....

Women, we are talking about un-wanted pregnancy. Why allow women to give birth to children they do not want. The amount of pain, if any, these living organisms exprience is minimal to that of a life time of heartache experienced by abused children. Why don't you spend more time fighting for them? Children are being abused and neglected every minute, in every city, why not spend your energy fighting for their rights? Their pain is now.

So would it be better for these women having these abortions to have a baby they dont want and throw it away? Or another drug baby born to drug addicted parents? What about a woman who is raped? Should she have to have the baby? Everyone has their reasons, it's not for anyone to decide for them. You might not like their reasons but they are theirs. So to all you hipocritical ass holes, take a good look at yourself before you judge or think you have the right to make choices for others. You get to live your life as you see fit, not other peoples lives.

In Michigan black woman have over 40 percent of the abortions but black people only make up 15 percent of the population.

This is EXACTLY why I try to only consort with women who will service me orally! If they are poor, they are especially grateful for the extra protein!

having eachother is great, but having shelter is good too, having food on the table is better, or even having a table at all would be nice for alot of people...your lucky that your able to support 10 childeren, most people right now have trouble supporting 1... congratulations on the baby on the way!

well then...it would seem he made the biggest mistake of all by allowing us to have the control huh?

If we view children as a priceless gift, we would not argue for abortion on financial grounds (e.g., the inability to support). Had my wife and I been concerned solely about being able to afford rearing a child, we likely would not have had our first, much less our tenth (due in November). Sure, we can't enjoy every luxury that most of our peers have opted for instead of a large family, but we have each other, and that goes far beyond new cars and Disney vacations.

All of you so called pro-lifers (really they are pro big government intrusion) where is your champion. Filanderer John McCain? You think he really cares about this issue? Overtuning Roe vs. Wade would be the worst thing to ever happen to the Republican party because then all you knuckleheaded one issue voters would have no reason to go out and vote Republican. You guys are being used and abused by the Republicans. Go ahead and keep voting for them. Most of them know you all are just a bunch of suckers. Reagan, for instance convinced everyone he was pro-life even though he signed the bill in California legalizing abortion. You dumb idiots! Vote Republican. Make my day.

right on...thinking4myself is looking at the world through clear eyes...humans cant just "stop having sex" so forget about it, end of story. thats why there is world hunger and poverty to begin with. i dont know anyone other than religious monks that fore go a bedroom romp. if people want to decrease the number of abortions and pregnancies than there needs to be more options, covered under the proper insurance, for mothers and families to be. more contraceptives, free contraceptives, free morning after pills, birth control, better sex ed/options etc...you need a grassroots movement, not a "halt all sexual activity" campaign. we need to look at these problems thoroughly, logically, and involve all parties that are part of each unique situation. if you pro-lifers want to save the kids so bad then go out and save them...and really no offense to religion but god wont save most of them on his own...if you all want to be the army of good and stop the evil then go out and do it in the real world...our from behind the picket line in front of the abortion clinics, and out of these message boards. go out and do that "gods work" that your so puffed up on...most of you would say things like, "oh well I cant because...", "well my life doesnt have time...", "i cant take off work", and all of you would be right back to one of your arguments of people being selfish and unwilling...and for the record ive gone out and seen what overpopulation does to countries, ive seen more than most people could stomach...ive seen the real world. america is in a bubble of consumerism and capitolism, and while we argue about an unborn fetus/embryo/child/baby whatever, there are literally millions of childeren with no families, no food or water, no hospitals, or anyone trying to help them. so go crusade where it matters, not saying this argument doesnt matter, but there are plenty of childeren you can help and save.

In response to the comment (question?) by sj32. When one person's freedom infringes upon another person's basic human rights in a grave manner, the law must protect the weak. Neither the mother nor the child ("fetus") are more important than the other. To look at the issue in that way creates a false dilemma. The real issue in this debate is about preserving basic human rights and establishing laws that will prevent an individual from harming those persons who cannot speak for themselves with regard to their basic human rights.
How does this issue affect each one of us personally? Of course you may ignore the issue because it seems to have no clearly discernible practical effect on you at the present moment, but may you ignore the cries of the innocent? Would you ignore a man murdering his brother or sister in the street, or would you care only if that brother or sister owes you rent for the month? The common good is not served by individualism, and each of us must become our brother's keeper, or we all suffer.

In response to the comment (question?) by sj32. When one person's freedom infringes upon another person's basic human rights in a grave manner, the law must protect the weak. Neither the mother nor the child ("fetus") are more important than the other. To look at the issue in that way creates a false dilemma. The real issue in this debate is about preserving basic human rights and establishing laws that will prevent an individual from harming those persons who cannot speak for themselves with regard to their basic human rights.
How does this issue affect each one of us personally? Of course you may ignore the issue because it seems to have no clearly discernible practical effect on you at the present moment, but may you ignore the cries of the innocent? Would you ignore a man murdering his brother or sister in the street, or would you care only if that brother or sister owes you rent for the month? The common good is not served by individualism, and each of us must become our brother's keeper, or we all suffer.

The Wild Bird Conservation Act
In 1992, the United States passed the Wild Bird Conservation Act. By October 1993, the law prohibited the import of all CITES-listed-birds (almost 1,000 species) except for those included in an approved list either by country of origin or wild-caught birds or by specific captive breeding facilities.
For wild-caught approved birds, a management plan that provides for conservation of the species and its habitat is required. In addition, it established a moratorium on trade of any non-Cites species. Exemptions include game birds and bird species indigenous to the 50 United States and the District of Columbia.
The Act establishes an Exotic Bird Conservation Fund, to be funded by penalties, fines, donations, and any additional appropriations. The Fund is to be used to assist exotic bird conservation projects in their native countries. Particular attention is given to species subject to an import moratorium or quota in order to assist those countries in developing and implementing conservation management programs, law enforcement programs, or both.
Penalties:
Criminal violations: Violators of the prohibited acts shall, upon conviction, be fined, or imprisoned for not more than two years, or both.
Civil violations: Violators of the prohibited acts shall, upon conviction, be fined not more than $25,000.

The Eagle Protection Act
Bald Eagle protection began in 1940 with the passage of the Eagle Protection Act. Later amended to include the Golden Eagle, the Act makes it unlawful to import, export, take, sell, purchase, or barter any Bald Eagle or Golden Eagle, their parts, products, nests, or eggs. "Take" includes pursuing, shooting, poisoning, wounding, killing, capturing, trapping, collecting, molesting, or disturbing the eagles.
Exceptions:
Permits may be granted for scientific or exhibition use, or for traditional and cultural use by Native Americans. However, no permits may be issued for import, export, or commercial activities involving eagles.
Penalties:
Misdemeanor violations may result in fines of up to $100,000 for individuals and $200,000 for organizations and one year's imprisonment. Fines of up to $250,000 and $500,000 for individuals and organizations, respectively, may result from felony violations.
Rewards:
Persons providing information leading to the conviction of Eagle Protection Act violators may be eligible for cash rewards.