The Changing Face of Abortion

JC0101, you bring a great prespective to the debate. I've never heard anyone in the Republican party discuss the fall out of Roe v. Wade being overturned, and I've never heard MSM examine the issue and compare it with Ireland where abortion is illegal. That would be something worth discussing.
If people want to overturn Roe. v. Wade that's their opinion, but if politicans want to and do not have concrete plans to discuss how to deal with the consequences of such an overturn in policy then they are just idealogues.

Media and pro-abortion activists proclaim that it is an easy out for women who are not willing to provide for the child. There are a few types of women I can think of who use abortion as an easy way out
1.women who have to many children
2.women who are not married and struggling to make ends meet.
3.prostitutes
If these women would focus on what is important instead of sex then they wouldn???t have to visit an abortion clinic.There is more in life than sex. I wish TV shows and movies would spend less time focusing on it. But of course, America wouldn???t watch it.

You seriously think that those "few types of women" are the only ones that have abortions??? Its time to for you to wake up and smell the coffee. There are 11 year rape victims, victims of of incest. There are military women who are raped while on duty in Iraq and Afghanistan. (of which I am a military rape crisis counselor, and yes there are many military men who are raped by other men) Do these woman deserved to be raped? And to follow that up, should they have to carry to term the result of that violent act? I sure would like to see you walk a mile in a rape victims shoes, where in addition to being sexually assaulted in a most heinous way, then having an abortion done. There is NOTHING more traumatic. Basically I am not a fan of anyone hides behind the pro-life banner...I have seen and held far too many hands and KNOW that not all women use abortion as a means of birth control. Women should be able to do whatever they want to their bodies. There are CEO's and church ministers daughters getting abortions. There are far too many "Christian" busy bodies that pre occupied with women and thier reproductive systems. Those busy bodies should spend that energy elsewhere.

Women should be able to monitor their own bodies without government interference. They want women to have this new shot that will prevent some types of cervical cancer but don't demand that men be circumcised to prevent certain types of cancer...hmmmmmm!

Right the 21 year olds have a brain fart and forget what they were taught when they were 12- 18???? Come on!!!! They just wanted to feel the real thing.... And then make everyone else pay for their pleasure. The same goes for the "single" mom still out there having sex when she has children at home to feed. Oh well I can't afford to feed the "result of my formicating" .... let the government and tax payers cover the cost of my bad decision. Sick! Sick! Sick! Women! Llearn to make your CHOICE before Sex!

The real reason teen abortion rates have dropped is due to parental involvement laws in effect in 35 states. In all cases, rates of teen pregnancy, teen abortion and teen sexually transmitted diseases/infections have dropped. Perhaps a study needs to be done to examine why Planned Parenthood spends millions and millions of dollars to oppose these laws when they prove so effective at lowering abortion rates.

any imbicile who would question why a mothers body is more important than that of a fetus is to ignorant to be breeding. without a health and happy mother, you get unhappy and unhealthy children. is that helping us evolve into a better society? no. it is propagating a cycle that needs to be stopped. as it is the world is over populated and people need to stop being so egomaniacal and so "oh-oh-me-me!!" and realize that this life isnt just about us or the millions of children that we wish we could have. its about the other 6.5 billion people, too. so wake up, put your bible down and try opening your eyes to the fact that the fittest are surviving much less often... and judging by your postings, wifenmother4ever, your an god-fearing nationalist. its not your duty to populate this land all by your self. have a little respect for what your putting your body through, not to mention the fact that the more children you have, the less time you have for all of them. only a republican can turn that into a lie. so in conclusion, i appreciate any educated opinion. i dont appreciate someone forcing their ideology on me or my vagina.

I was wrong. I now get into it. Pro-choicers often miss they point. If you really believe the child in the womb is a person, then you in essence believe that abortion is akin to murder, and you can't sit by idly on the fence. Really, there are parallels between abortion and slavery. When the slave trade was going on a lot of people didn't think black people were 'real' people. It seems ludicrous now. And I'm a big believer in civil rights. But if you go back and read the literature, a lot of people questioned whether black people could really be considered the same as whites. Some of the things that even Abraham Lincoln said about blacks would look very racist today. And people who spoke up against the slave trade, were probably told things like if you don't believe in it, then don't own any slaves. . . don't impose your views on me, etc. In the name of freedom and so forth.
I don't think abortion laws will be overturned in our country. I do think a baby in the mothers womb is a baby. I do think abortion is akin to murder and don't see a lot of difference between abortion and exposure, where you take a newborn and leave it out to die.
But having said all that I don't think I can change the views of the majority in our country. We are all about 'me first' and doing what is right for me.

I have only this to say. NO ONE has the right to tell a person what to do. The government, the churcha and the Pro Life people DO NOT HAVE THE RIGHT to tell another person how to live or what to do with their bodies.
Yes an abortion should be the last resort and SHOULD NOT be used as birth control. If ROE-vs-WADE gets over turned we will force the "back alley abortion" and many women and teens will die or be unable to children.
This is the womens choice. As always just my opinion.

Posted By: mydiadem @ 09/23/2008 12:25:16 PM
Comment: So if a low income couple that loves each other, has children, and can't afford to have any more and also can't afford or access (if Bush and the neo-cons have their way) birth control the answer is simple. You are never allowed to have sex again. Make that 'choice' before you have sex. Makes sense to me!
What this article does talk about is those that are still having abortions its because they can't access or afford birth control. Adults here, not children. How many 20 something women out there, happily married, can't afford to have a children right now and also can't afford $50 a month for the birth control pill?

This is such a good point it needs to be posted again.

Possibly part of the problem is the fact that Mississippi has only one abortion clinic in a state with a healthy population of minorities. I guess you only get to have choices if you can afford it. Who cares bout the women forced to have children they cannot feed? The state of kansas wanted to overturn abortion even thought they have less than 5000 a year. What no one cares about is the 200,000 children in the state who live below the poverty line.

First, this article shows a definite right-to-life bias when it says, "the news isn't all good" meanings that less abortions is better. The women in the higher age groups received the same education that teens are receiving. It is just that, having weighed all of their options, they made a choice. Like it or not, as long as Roe vs. Wade stands, there is no right or wrong to this question according to the law. When the founding fathers wrote the constitution, they included freedom of religion. They wanted to make sure that one religious doctrine did not unduly control the choices of others who did not believe similarly. Here, we are not allowed to force our religious beliefs on others. Without that protection, the United States would be no better place to live than Saudi Arabia or Iran.

Second, considering that abortion statistics include all cases where morning-after pills or RU486 were prescribed (even though a viable pregnancy may not have been established), the statistics shouldn't surprise anyone. Many women have adverse mental, emotional or physical effects due to regular birth control pills and patches, and would rather just take care of any "problems" if they arise. Even though most unmarried American women usually prefer condom use during intercourse, sometimes intoxication, the heat of the moment, or faulty condoms require them to use other methods to prevent pregnancy. In addition, most men would rather not use a condom during intercourse, if given the choice by either circumstances or consent. Because of all of these reasons, how she prevents an unwanted birth is each woman???s choice.