I'ts very clear that the republican candidates are the same, I'm talking about the McCain and Palin. First impression is always lasting and they cannot be trusted. Please, Americans wake up! The world is in turmoil right now help to make some changes not just in your country but the world, economically.
Freddie’s Friend
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Posted By: Davole @ 09/25/2008 2:26:11 AM
Why do many of the obamabots regularly post their rants more than once on the same discussion board?
Are they so insecure in their opinion that they think (no, change that word to feel) that if they post the same rant more than once, it will somehow magically gain more validity and importance?
Do you have any rational reason for posting your 2 identical blogs within a 5 minute interval?
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Posted By: OK Red ST go BLUE @ 09/28/2008 3:19:09 PM
Because we're as passionate as you are in voicing our opinions. Can't handle it? Feeling backed into a corner? Got nothing to hide behind or under? Try one of McPains many homes or under his many cars!
Nice chatting with you. I don't get a chance to carry on a discussion with a bigot and racist. I'm kinda stepping out of my comfort zone to bring diversity into my life, something I think would benefit you too!
Try it! You may like it!!!
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/25/2008 3:07:59 PM
Media questions: Sarah, Sarah! Can you talk a little about what it feels like to be free of witches? Have you seen any demons personally, if so, were they properly exorcised? How long after the cleansing are you Witch-Proofed? Has your family been properly witch-proofed too, how about the unborn child?
Mr. Davole;
You appear less academic today. Is every thing alright?
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Posted By: valark @ 09/25/2008 4:16:36 PM
His ugly side? Opposed to the generously spirited and intellectually stimulating comments of you and the other two responding?
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Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 10:24:28 AM
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/26/2008 2:44:48 PM
And here's your lie:
Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 10:56:48 AM
Comment: I am amazed at the language and total lack of respect that people have exhibited on this post.I do not know if it is because of a limited vocabulary or are people just that passionate about their beliefs that they are willing to step on anybody. I guess it takes a real tough guy to talk s*** across the internet. I have no desire to waste my time trading jabs with some of these people. I will only respond to those that I know can actually make a point and they are worth talking to regardless of their position, it's called a discussion. To some of you the only way I would waste my time with you, would be if I dropped my drawers so I could see eye to eye with you.Thanks for wasting everybody's time with your mindless BS.
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Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 3:37:11 PM
Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/26/2008 2:43:19 PM
Comment: Ugly. Yes. Lies. Yep. He's no better than you. All you guys do is lie, then demean bloggers, then when you get a little back - you make it the point. If you stop lying all the time, you won't be responded to in a negative way. Yes. Uglier side. Mr. Davole - and you.
What the hell are you talking about now. You have a problem with listening to what anybody elses point of view is, no wonder with your head stuck up your ass I can see how that could be a problem. I have read a bunch of your posts, I am still wondering if you actually have something worth saying or are you going to stick with this third grade mentality of talking smack to everybody who doesn't agree with you.Want to make a point, like I have said before I will listen, want to talk s*** go pick a fight on some playground and leave me out of it , this is the last time I will respond to this nonsense, GROW UP
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/26/2008 2:43:19 PM
Ugly. Yes. Lies. Yep. He's no better than you. All you guys do is lie, then demean bloggers, then when you get a little back - you make it the point. If you stop lying all the time, you won't be responded to in a negative way. Yes. Uglier side. Mr. Davole - and you.
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Posted By: ObamaBidenNOW @ 09/25/2008 6:50:03 PM
In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future. I follow a economist named bob proctor who has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly. He perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown ,and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years Is terrifying. He thinks it will be worse then the great depression. Banks in the US are going under one after the other. Country wide the largest morgage bank in the world Bear Stearns and Lehman brothers , and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms. And now Fanny and Freddy which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States. The goverment took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash And we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before The future of these companies will fall into the hands of our next president
Bush just like Mcain doesn't understand the economy.
That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it
He does not understand exactly what is broken. Its no surprise that he doesnt. The people that make up these
securities use complex math models very few people understand.
Bush and mccain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks take risks with all of our future.
Now Phil Graham is the head of mccains economic policy ,and mccain wants to make him the next secretary of the treasury.
No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time bush met with his economic advisors was in march. He either didnt realize or didnt care that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy in our lifetime.
It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as bush has done mccain would be
incredibly worse because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like bush did but a tanking economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 deficit. Most of Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
If you do what you have always done then you will do get what you have always __________
When it comes to policy bush and mccain are the same 90 percent of the time.
So why are the polls even close then ?
The chairman of mcains campaign recently said that people don't vote on issues
they vote on a personality composite which means. He is trying to sell you personality instead of results.
He believes people will vote against there own self interests.
Lets teach him we are smarter then that .
Hold them accountable now while it will still help
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Posted By: OK Red ST go BLUE @ 09/28/2008 3:15:43 PM
End American suffering, VOTE OBAMA/BIDEN!
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Posted By: ferg2005 @ 09/28/2008 1:48:48 PM
Ironically, the crash of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac was caused by Clinton's signing an act in 1999 forcing them to lend to people who could not afford mortgages. I don't make a lot of money, but I am tired of sending what I do make to those unwilling to pay their own way
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Posted By: Prestwood @ 09/27/2008 8:22:57 PM
Send Rick (Mad Man) Davis and John (Unfit), Saral (Unqualified) Palin, Karl (Satan) rove, and Steve (Dope Head) Schmidt, Phil (Palin) Gramm, Lindsay (Queen) Gramm, Carly (The Man) Fiorna, Cindy (Crack Head) McCain to jail. The are all liars, crooks and theives. Add Bush, Cheney, Paulson, Thompson, Guilliani - Fed Prison is where these cons belong. They all should be chared with TREASON.
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Posted By: historyforgotten @ 09/27/2008 2:52:54 AM
BB&T in Winston-Salem, should be looked into. Its tyes with Wacovia, will show that many Capitolists, will have a side-stepping account. Follow the White Rabbit.
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Posted By: historyforgotten @ 09/27/2008 2:49:54 AM
BB&T in Winston-Salem, Could be, an anti-Free Religious account. I hope all De-Regulations, will show where, the money is Wacovia has a few problems, but Capitolists, will still have a side-steping account. Follow the White Rabbit.
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/26/2008 12:01:58 PM
Well. This can't be good.
This mornings Los Angeles Times reports that a federal grand jury has been convened to look into COUNTRYWIDE LOANS dealings,with especial attention to giving favorable loan deals to certain individuals known as ''The Friends of Angelo''. Two prominant names have immediately surfaced:
Democrat Senator Chris Dodd of Connecticut,Chairman,Senate Banking Committee
Franklin Raines. Fmr.CEO,FANNIE MAE.
A couple of things here. First,Franklin Raines appears at a Black Congressional Caucus panel last night moderated by Democrat Rep. Sheila Jackson-Lee of Texas to demand the precise same lack of oversight for FANNIE and FREDDIE that got us into this mess to begin with. Next,over at CSPAN-I ,the ''Federal Takeover of FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC''Hearings find that the new FANNIE CEO ,Lockhart,admitted that the failed 2005 regulatory bill championed by Republicans and opposed by Democrats including then-ranking member of the Senate Banking Committee Chris Dodd,allowed the meltdown to occur because it also allowed F and F under Raines and Johnsons leadership to ignore Acts 33,and 34. 33,is especially critical as it demanded ''wage veriifcation''. Committee member Chris Shays [GOP] was astonished that FANNIE and FREDDIE,for the last seven years [Act 33.Act 34 was applied in 2005], gave loans away with absolutely no verification of income and that it totally ignored Act 34 at the behest of the Democrats,especially the increasingly corrupt Black Congressional Caucus,who was then and is still tight with Raines. The BCC,of course,is an all-Democrat creature.
www.c-span.org Sept.25,2008 Schedule[PM].-
Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/26/2008 2:39:06 PM
Thanks Mr. Holmes. It's you so we all know this is distorted. But if you must, don't forget to mention Mr. McCain and his influence, alliances and business with Fannie and Freddie too.
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Posted By: neocon @ 09/26/2008 4:35:47 PM
Read the article. Five years ago the Bush administration acknowledged that oversight of the two lenders (Fannie and Freddie)was broken, so what did he do about it? He asked Congress to create a new agency which would determine capital reserve requirements, and ensure the two companies managed their risks properly. As we know now, those calls for tighter regulation by the Bush administration went unanswered.
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=print
September 11, 2003
The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago.
Significant details must still be worked out before Congress can approve a bill. Among the groups denouncing the proposal today were the National Association of Home Builders and Congressional Democrats who fear that tighter regulation of the companies could sharply reduce their commitment to financing low-income and affordable housing.
''These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis,'' said Representative Barney Frank of Massachusetts, the ranking Democrat on the Financial Services Committee. ''The more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing.''
Representative Melvin L. Watt, Democrat of North Carolina, agreed.
''I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing,'' Mr. Watt said.
This is yet another example of Democrats placing emotions before common sense. It makes them feel good to say they are acting on behalf of low income Americans, a claim which they make often, but they refuse to take the blame when their actions (or inaction) have negative consequences for those same people.-
Posted By: neos @ 09/26/2008 6:58:22 PM
If, as you claim, Bush's call for oversight went unanswered, then who's responsililty is it to make sure that it WAS answered. Remember the old saying, 'The buck stops here?' Bush was in charge. It is his responsibility as a leader to lead. The truth is that republican deregulation and greed brought on this catastrophe.
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Posted By: neocon @ 09/26/2008 8:50:27 PM
Just read the article and see how Franks and Dodd buried it in committee. You seem to assign more power to a president they deserve. Once again your wrong.
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/26/2008 3:06:54 PM
I can already. The closest McCain comes to FANNIE and FREDDIE is his campaign adviser Davis. The closest Obama comes to either is himself.[then too,we have already pointed out where FANNIEs CEO [a CEO mind you,and not a ''lobbyist'',who bundled tens of millions when he split FANNIE],never left the Obama campaign.
www.politco.com Sept.25,2008
www.opensecrets.org The Public Eye:''FANNIE and FREDDIE Gave More Money To Democrats'' [Obama will appear on this list].-
Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 3:21:35 PM
Get off your high horse askplus, this is nothing new, it was only a matter of time. Thanks for the info Lee, I will definitely check this one out as should askplus instead of assuming you know everything or are you really that arrogant?
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Posted By: neocon @ 09/26/2008 4:23:36 PM
After 35 years in the Congress, Joe Biden appears to be continuing his on the job training. Yesterday when asked his opinion of the AIG bailout, Joe Biden said he opposed the bailout, then blamed the companies financial troubles on George Bush???s tax cuts:
We should try to correct the problems that caused this. And what???s caused this? The profligate tax cuts to the very, very wealthy that John wants to continue.
I???ll give you a moment to ponder over that statement??????. So Joe Biden believes the millions of foreclosures occurring nationwide are as a direct result of George Bush???s tax cuts? This is taking Bush derangement syndrome to a new level!
If Obama wished to raise taxes, and pledged that any increase in government revenue would be used to pay down the national debt, I would be all for it. Obama and Biden have not even hinted they would reduce the deficit, much less the debt itself.
Everday I say thank you Senator Obama for reminding us as to why even your own Vice Presidential pick has claimed you are not ready to be commander in chief. ???I think he can be ready, but right now I don???t believe he is. The presidency is not something that lends itself to on-the-job training.??? - Joe Biden
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Posted By: neocon @ 09/26/2008 3:11:21 PM
In an amazing turn of events the Democrats are starting to emerging as the new party of the rich, the party of Wall Street, the party that champions financiers at the expense of producers. For years now, the most affluent precincts in the country???mostly on the two coasts???have been solidly Democratic. And in 2008, the polls show that upper-income voters mostly support Barack Obama. And Obama, of course, guided by the likes of Robert Rubin, has been quietly supportive of the deal. Indeed, Obama personally epitomizes the Democrats??? new political arrangement: He was raised mostly poor then worked mostly with the poor, but now he is rich and works mostly with the rich???his campaign is a well-financed corporation. Yet he has amazingly maintained his popularity with the poor. For their part, the Republicans now represent the majority of middle-income voters???Main Street.
So it???s understandable that the Democrats would want to take care of ???their??? people at the top. That???s the revised Democratic model: The same old socialism for the poor, of course, in the form of the bureaucratic welfare state, and a new kind of socialism for the rich, in the form of this bailout.
In addition, the Democrats have some sordid secrets to protect???and Paulson & Co. are helping them keep hidden. Much of the overall financial crisis can be traced back to bad mortgages made to unqualified buyers at the behest of Democratic poverty advocates; it was a neat arrangement, poor Democrats got houses, as rich Democrats got richer by manipulating the financial paper. But the Bush administration, eager for a deal with the Democrats, has made it clear that it won???t point fingers. For their part, Senate Banking Committee chairman Chris Dodd (D-Conn.) and House Financial Services Committee Chairman Barney Frank (D-Mass.) are returning the favor by pushing the bill forward.
So only Congressional Republicans???the single most implacable figure being Sen. Richard Shelby, the Rock of Alabama???are taking a firm stance against this monstrosity of a bailout. They even seem to have brought along John McCain, who has taken various positions on the bailout over the last few weeks. I say bravo for the Congressional Republicans. After years of embarrassments and scandals, the Capitol Hill GOP has rediscovered principle and honor. And so rediscovered the glory of genuinely representing the people, against the powerful.
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Posted By: Techpen08 @ 09/26/2008 11:07:38 AM
It seems that everyone is pointing fingers at McCains campaign manager for taking payoffs from Freddie and Fannie. Lets not forget that Obama's campaign managers had thier hands in the cookie jar as well. Maybe BOTH campaigns should explain in detail of the reason why they could not be weaned from taking money from these two institutions, maybe include this in the upcoming debate Friday night.
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Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 11:13:53 AM
I agree with you there, it doesn't seem like anybody is going to walk away from this without getting dirty.
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Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 10:56:48 AM
I am amazed at the language and total lack of respect that people have exhibited on this post.I do not know if it is because of a limited vocabulary or are people just that passionate about their beliefs that they are willing to step on anybody. I guess it takes a real tough guy to talk s*** across the internet. I have no desire to waste my time trading jabs with some of these people. I will only respond to those that I know can actually make a point and they are worth talking to regardless of their position, it's called a discussion. To some of you the only way I would waste my time with you, would be if I dropped my drawers so I could see eye to eye with you.Thanks for wasting everybody's time with your mindless BS.
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Posted By: TruthForward @ 09/26/2008 10:43:24 AM
Freddie Freddie... Is this the unwise investments you've made? Might you not be in such a pickle if you spent funds on other things, besides lobbyist?
Oy vey.
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Posted By: Jim F. @ 09/24/2008 3:27:08 PM
$126,000 was paid directly to Obama by Fannie-Freddie in just three years . The money per year is BY FAR the most given to any politician. Where is this information.
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/24/2008 7:39:19 PM
The contributions you reference were donated by EMPLOYEES of Freddie and Fannie -- the underwriters, computer programmers, administrative assistants, data entry clerks, middle managers and janitors that work in the place. They collectively contributed a small droplet to the pool of billions he has raised during the current campaign season.
The figure that hasn't gotten as much play -- although CNN and NYT did bring it to light -- is that McCain received $169,000 from the DIRECTORS, OFFICERS and LOBBYISTS for Freddie and Fannie. Obama, to be fair, also received some money from this group -- $16,000.
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Posted By: Davole @ 09/25/2008 2:44:12 AM
Mimi13 -
Were those EMPLOYEES of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac the same ones who falsely inflated their company"s financial holdings so that their superiors could falsely earn financial bonuses?-
Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/25/2008 4:09:05 AM
Ummmm. . . it's possible, I guess. What's for sure, however, is that the officers and directors who signed off on those figures were big McCain supporters.
Anyway, I'm done with this topic. There are more important things going on. Like is McCain really flipping out? What exactly does he expect to do in D.C. since he isn't even on the Banking committee, he has no expertise in econmics, and hasn't set foot in the Senate chamber since April? And has he really just admitted that he's not capable of handling more than one issue at a time?-
Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/26/2008 10:42:58 AM
McCains record has shown that he has always put the country first, w/out hesitation, grant it his timing could've been better. Bill Clinton is even standing behind McCain on this one. Everybody is so busy accusing him of this or that when he stated in the beginning that this wouldn't work after speaking with some of his associates, he knew this was going to happen. Now the Dems are crying foul because the Republicans are questioning the foundation of the deal Paulson and Bush threw together and are not eager to just sign anything. So now we just have to wait and see how this plays out, were the Repubs just causing trouble as Obama feels or are the Dems just too eager to jump this time, who is being patient this time I wonder, ha.
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Posted By: feefee @ 09/25/2008 5:04:07 PM
Hypocrisy at its best isn't it. Remember that ole saying when you point the finger three are pointing back.
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/24/2008 8:35:51 PM
This is false. According to The Center For Responsive Politics,Obama has accepted money from FANNIE and FREDDIE PACS including the following persons,[several of whom are persons of interest by the FBI],none of whom worked at either entity in a ''entry or mid-management''position. These are.
Jamie Gorelick FANNIE CEO [got away with 27 million]
Frankiln Raines FANNIE CEO[got away with between 40 and 90 million]]
Jim Johnson FANNIE CEO[got away with 35 million]
Robert Tsien FREDDIE Senior Vice President
William Lewis Jr. FREDDIE Board of Directors
Brenda Gaines FREDDIE Board of Directors
Rahm Emmanuel FREDDIE Board of Directors
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Posted By: ducking sniper fire @ 09/25/2008 3:02:50 AM
Although I know your numbers are wrong, I give it to you. My question is how does that compare to Rick Davis accepting 15K a month since 2006, for doing nothing. He said he "recused" himself from the company , but he is an equity owner so he still get's paid. They must thnk we're stupid.
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/25/2008 11:27:35 AM
It does not excuse Davis. But Davis is not the one running for president. He can be kicked to the curb same as Obama was forced to do with FREDDIE CEO Jim Johnson. The one who is,[Obama],recieved direct payment from FANNIE and FREDDIE CEOs who were in a policymaking position. They were enriched from the policies furthered by those such as Obama. Quid Pro Quo. Say what one will,Obama remains in one of the highest positions of F and F political contributions in Washington.
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/25/2008 3:09:18 PM
Media questions:
Sarah, Sarah! Can you talk a little about what it feels like to be free of witches? Have you seen any demons personally, if so, were they properly exorcised? How long after the cleansing are you Witch-Proofed? Has your family been properly witch-proofed too, how about the unborn child?
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/25/2008 1:28:33 AM
Nope. I'm right. From CNN:
"The total listed for Obama is $126,349 ??? a tiny fraction of the approximately $390 million his campaign has raised, according to the Center for Responsive Politics. The list shows McCain has received a total of $21,550 from Fannie and Freddie employees. The list includes donations of at least $200 from those who receive paychecks from Fannie and Freddie. It also includes donations from political action committees ??? pooled contributions from employees. Obama decided early in his presidential run not to accept PAC contributions, but the Center for Responsive Politics' list includes all contributions for members of Congress dating back to 1989 ??? including Obama and McCain's Senate campaigns.
"The New York Times has published a separate list looking at contributions from "directors, officers, and lobbyists for Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac" for the 2008 campaign cycle. That list ??? using figures from the Federal Election Commission ??? shows McCain receiving $169,000, while Obama received only $16,000."
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Posted By: greatmidwest @ 09/26/2008 12:22:49 AM
There's no regulation of these lobbyist groups' activities. McCain should have focused more on this, rather than on campaign finance reform. This is one of the major problems in Washington today.
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Posted By: careerdaytrader @ 09/25/2008 11:51:11 AM
OBAMA EXPLAINS WHY HE DOESN'T SALUTE THE US FLAG !!!!!!!!!
Obama 'explains'
Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.
According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag
with the right hand over t he heart.
'As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the anthem itself conveys a
war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'
Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president!!
I, for once, am speechless. He has absolutely NO pride in this country!!!!!
This is outrageous!!!! He doesn't deserve to be dogcatcher!!!
(Oh, sorry dogcatchers, I mean you no disrespect.)
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Posted By: jimmytwotimes @ 09/25/2008 10:33:11 PM
Do you really think Obama said he wants to have "I'd like to teach the world to sing" as our anthem? What is wrong with you people - don't you f***ing think? No, you don't, you read something like this and forward it to as many morons as you possibly can.
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Posted By: kshortSD @ 09/25/2008 5:22:39 PM
REALLY? With all of McCain's flip-flopping, lying, and campaign stunts, THIS is why you won't vote for Obama? Pathetic! No wonder the rest of the world hates us...the most ignorant people in our country keep getting to elect morons to the highest office. It's so embarrassing!
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Posted By: jimmytwotimes @ 09/25/2008 10:31:49 PM
This is completely made up. Obama never ever said that. Try opening your eyes, jackass.
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Posted By: Davole @ 09/25/2008 9:21:56 PM
Differences in the 2 Candidates Approaches Toward Solving the Financial Crisis:
John McCain
- Intuitively ready to lead!
- I will postpone for the balance of the week my political campaign in order to participate in helping to solve the national financial crisis by investigating the proposals, and then accepting, rejecting, or modifying them.
Barack Obama
- Bewildered as to whether and how to respond!
- Why isn???t this darn teleprompter working?
- What - you expect me to actually make a decision? Can???t I just say ???Present????
- Bill Ayers is providing my talking points - I hope they don???t ???bomb???.
- Come on mainstream media - cover for me!
- Oh ...err ... ah ... Did I tell you that I received an affirmative action (no, STRIKE THAT) law degree from Harvard?
- How do you like my new empty suit?
David Axelrod thinks that it actually makes me look competent.
Barbara Streisand gave it to me.
- Did I tell you that I, let???s just say, acquired some new lipstick to give to Michelle, my belle?
It should help her to look somewhat presentable, but nowhere near as good as that intelligent capable hot babe - Sarah Palin.
- I need a vacation - can I take another one now? I never did like America.
- You???re just being racist by expecting me to help solve this financial crisis.
- Let???s just CHANGE the subject, and HOPE that I can look competent next time.
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Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/25/2008 3:10:04 PM
Media questions: Sarah, Sarah! Can you talk a little about what it feels like to be free of witches? Have you seen any demons personally, if so, were they properly exorcised? How long after the cleansing are you Witch-Proofed? Has your family been properly witch-proofed too, how about the unborn child?
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Posted By: Jim F. @ 09/24/2008 3:22:57 PM
BOTTOM LINE - The Republicans introduced reform legislation for Fannie and Freddie in 2005/2006 and the Democrats blocked it with a party line vote. McCain co-sponsored that legislation. Obama didn't have a clue. That legislation could have averted this mess.
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/24/2008 7:55:10 PM
I'm getting a little tired of posting on this -- but people keep persisting in posting this blantant untruth.
NO one blocked the passage of S.190. IT never came up for a vote. ANYWHERE. Not in the Banking Subcommittee. Not in the Commerce Committee. Not on the floor of the Senate. It didn't come up for a vote because the Republican majority and the Chairman of the banking committee (Richard Shelby -- Rep. AL) had no interest in bringing it to a vote. Remember, please, that the REPUBLICANS were the majority in 2005-06. They controlled the legislative process. The bill was introduced in January 2005 by three senators and referred to the banking subcommittee. It sat there, unheralded and unnoticed, until May 2006 when John McCain, for reasons best known to himself, rose on the floor of the Senate and delivered a speech on its behalf. He had shown no interest in the topic prior to this speech. He showed no interest in the topic after this speech. The speech was to a near empty chamber for the enjoyment of C-Span devotees, not before some association's annual meeting or other public venue.
But, certainly McCain knew that a bill that had had no hearings, no debate, no companion legislation in the House was going no where that late in the session. The usual reason a senator would make a speech on behalf of a bill he does not really support is to do a favor for a colleague or a lobbyist. Since the bill is poorly written (S.190 in the 109th Congress, if you want to look it up). it's difficult to determine if it would actually regulate or deregulate the mortgage aftermarket. It proposed to do away with four bureaucracies and replace them with four other bureauacracies. It mandates spreading authority for the new entiies among the Secretaries of Treasury and HUD, the chairman of the SEC and the director of the new organization. There's no budget, no timetable, no impact statement. And believe me, you don't eliminate four federal agencies without a whole lot of hearings, discussions, debates, arguments and time. In other words, this bill died a peaceful, but well deserved death at the end of the 109th Congress. NO ONE blocked it because NO ONE wanted it.-
Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/25/2008 2:42:21 PM
This is more dishonesty. Thanks to the offices of the Senate Banking Committee,those who VOTED to kill this bill are right here.
www.senate.banking.gov [109th Congress].
Evan Bayh [D- Ind]
Tom Carper [D-Del]
Jon Corzine[D-NJ]
Chris Dodd [D-Ct]
Tim Johnson [D-SD]
Jack Reed [D-Md]
Charles Schumer [D-NY]
Paul Sarbanes [D-Md]
Debbie Stabenow [D-Mi].
These people VOTED to kill this bill.[despite the erroneous reading of the Senate Banking Committee actions in the above posting,two votes were held and both were at 11-9]. In addition,you do not mention that this bill had already passed out of committee earlier in July and was the subject of compromise language between Republican Judd Gregg and Democrat Ted Kennedy who kicked it back to the committee which VOTED on it again,this time to kill it,as committee Democrats could not get enough votes to pass their SARBANES-amended S.190 and Republicans would not buy a watered-down version of this bill.
Make no mistake. Democrats,bowing to non-profit home loans lenders,FANNIE and FREDDIE,did not want this oversight and regulatory mechanism installed as envisioned by the SHELBY Amendment. In a dramatic role reversal,the Republicans became pro-regulatory and the Democrats demanded business-as-usual. No amount of dissembling and dishonesty can diminish this fact.
www.opensecrets.gov The Center For Responsive Politics,The Senate Banking Committee,109th Congress [and political donations by lobbyists,including FANNIE MAE and FREDDIE MAC].
www.senate.banking.gov
www.senate.gov S.190.History,and amendments,and committee VOTES.
Almost forgot. HERE is the ''companion legislation''from the House of Representaives that MIMI claims does not exist.
H.R. 1461: The Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act April 5,2005. [Passed].
www.house.gov and,www.thomas.loc.gov
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/24/2008 8:00:38 PM
PS -- Jimmy, I try not to get personal in these posts, but It is so obvious that you know NOTHING about this bill (not even that it never, ever came up for a vote) that I marvel at your clueless assertion that somehow it would have solved all of today's problems. Do you often make blind assertions about things you know nothing about?
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Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/24/2008 8:45:50 PM
This is false. The vote on S.190 clearly shows that it made it out of committee on a party line vote,11 Republicans to 9 Democrats [including Dodd]. It was killed by Democrats who opposed the Shelby Amendment [ tightened portfolio limits],and Republicans who opposed the Sarbanes Amendment [looser controls,which led us to the mess were are now in].
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/25/2008 4:33:16 AM
Everything I see says the freakin' bill died in committee -- although I did find some testimony that appears that hearings were held on S.190. But I can't find a vote, not even in committee. And it certainly never got on the Senate's floor calendar.
Anyway --- like with the posts on who got what campaign contributions from Freddie and Fannie -- I'm done with this topic. Too much else going on in the world. I'm looking forward to Jim Lehrer's interview with Obama on Friday. It will be nice for him to have a full 90 minutes to talk about his foreign and economic policies -- and have all the network and cable stations cover it. Sorry McCain isn't up to questions at this time.-
Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/25/2008 11:50:56 AM
Right here.
www.senate.gov 109th Congress,Ist Session,Jan 26,2005 [with committee votes and full text]
You people made this scene. The Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act was killed by the Democrats on a party-line vote after it was voted for passage without amending on a party-line vote of 11-9. Sarbanes ,expressing the will of the Black Congressional Caucus[all-Democrat],and the Senates liberal bloc desired looser,not more stringent controls on FANNIE and FREDDIE.. The SARBANES Amendment[which you have heretofore never mentioned], can be compared against the SHELBY Amendment on the above site,with especial detail to portfolio limits,compensatory pay for directors,and income requirements for loans. There is no way you are going to get away with blaming Republicans for killing a bill that they authored. This is revisionist. Indeed,only four days after the bills death,Daniel Mudd of FANNIE MAE appeared before the Black Congressional Caucus to congratulate them [and Obama],for maintaining the status quo of both institutions.[CSPAN Feb.01,2005,YOU TUBE,Sept.02,2008]
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/25/2008 3:51:05 AM
Another citation. Sorry, S.190 never made it out of committee. It died at the end of the 109th Congress and was not reintroduced into the 110th. If you believe it actually came up for a vote, please cite a source that shows the vote. This is from the Library of Congress site at:
http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN00190:@@@X
S.190
Title: A bill to address the regulation of secondary mortgage market enterprises, and for other purposes.
Sponsor: Sen Hagel, Chuck [NE] (introduced 1/26/2005) Cosponsors (3)
Latest Major Action: 7/28/2005 Senate committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
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ALL ACTIONS:
1/26/2005:
Sponsor introductory remarks on measure. (CR S599-600)
1/26/2005:
Read twice and referred to the Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs.
7/28/2005:
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/25/2008 3:34:37 AM
Wrong again: From http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190
Overview
Sponsor: Sen. Charles Hagel [R-NE]show cosponsors (3)
Cosponsors [as of 2007-01-08]
Sen. Elizabeth Dole [R-NC]
Sen. John McCain [R-AZ]
Sen. John Sununu [R-NH]
Cosponsorship information sometimes is out of date.
Bill Text: Summary | Full Text
Status: Introduced Jan 26, 2005
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This bill never became law. This bill was proposed in a previous session of Congress. Sessions of Congress last two years, and at the end of each session all proposed bills and resolutions that haven't passed are cleared from the books.
Last Action: Jul 28, 2005: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. O
No vote., Not even in subcommittee. Nothing. No action. It just died.
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Posted By: twiggy2 @ 09/25/2008 10:03:47 AM
Seems to me we have put honesty, integrity and character on the back burner. why is that?
Is it because mccain /palin lack all of the above?
And obama has an abundance of each.
the issues are:
palin is being investigated for abuse of power .
she and her husband have violated court ordered subpoena's
mccain is obstructing justice, by interfering in the investigation.
isn't this illegal? i am 100% certain if barak obama's vp had done the same, he would not be the nominee, would he?
they are not allowing reporters to ask unscripted questions.
they are denying reporters access to her foreign policy improv's.
is the mccain palin ticket above the law?
have they rewritten the rules as we watch?
are they setting in motion the new standard for the press in the mccain /palin regime?
how far will they go?
what is next ?
aren???t these the fundamental issues that raise the integrity question, the honesty question
the character question
who governs the nation and how they govern
are critical to the well being of all america
don???t you agree?
what we are witnessing -- mccain pulls out of the debates
thinking the world will wait for him.
no mr mccain the world will not wait for you!
If you are not ready on day one {palin}
Or 3:00am {mccain} you will never be ready to govern
this great country.
the hypocrisy is astounding.
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Posted By: josemarti @ 09/24/2008 9:21:44 AM
Help Michelle be proud of her country. Vote for Obama.
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Posted By: Omaar @ 09/25/2008 9:34:09 AM
Help John McCain and his Beer Baroness Wife become Bigger Millionaires, by Electing McCain and Palin...
Meanwhile, Make sure Todd Palin Retracts his [AIP Membership and Registers Republican]
AIP: The [Alaskan Independent Party] The 3rd largest Political party in Alaska..
A Party that wants to Secede from this nation, making America [49 States] opposed to [50 States]
A Party whose Founders and Members [Damn The USA Flag] and believe that America Illegally voted to make Alaska the [49th state]
They want Nothing to do with the USA Flag, Nor the USA in general.
PS: John McCain is [Semi-Senile] Simple and Plain...
Go Vote for Mccain, you cannot convince others to dothe same..huh -
Posted By: not-fooled-by-slick-talking-charlatans @ 09/24/2008 2:26:31 PM
Out of curiousity, do you ever post comments that have something to do with the article?
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Posted By: Mimi13 @ 09/24/2008 8:03:14 PM
jose is the comic relief on these blogs. There are days when we need it.
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