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  • Posted By: annette2006 @ 09/25/2008 4:48:55 PM

    I think this happened when we were all distracted by the Palin smokescreen! What a reckless, irresponsible choice to make and then use her to distract everyone from the real mess we are in. The ditz even warned us in a way 'not to blink'.
    The rich get richer! We need a REVOLUTION!

  • Posted By: Gas Poor @ 09/25/2008 4:45:11 PM

    Gas has been the root of this mortgage crisis. We were doing pretty good unitl gas jumped $2.00 per gallon. Thank you democratic elected congess. They were elected two years ago. When did gas start going up...Fas plays a bigger part in tis. Food, goods, etc all cost more.
    No to the bailout...Bring gas prices down...

  • Posted By: NJ to Miami @ 09/25/2008 4:44:28 PM

    $700 B illion bailout price tage is based on 5% of mortgages already in foreclosure and another 2% are past due and may go into foreclosure. If forclosuresgrow to 10% then will bailout double to $1.4 Trillion?

    Why does gov say bailout protects my 401k? I converted all stocks to money market which is FDIC insured so I will not lose one penny so I do not need bail out.

    Why does gov. say we need bailout or else my debt card will not work. The checking account attached to my debit
    card is FDIC insured so I do not need bail out.

    Why is it so terrible for someone to live in an apartment instead of owning a house? I lived in apartment for 25 years and saved my money til I could afford a home.




  • Posted By: ladywolf @ 09/25/2008 4:38:29 PM

    I like the Birk plan,You could buy a car, start a bussiness, open a retirement account and pay off the house, sounds good to me. And most of the loans were taken out at the encouragement of loan officers who didn't care if you could pay them back as long as they got their commisions. How many people really understand the legaleese of most of these documents anyway. When you didn't have credit-they looked the other way and said "oh sure, you can pay for it. your credit is good for it." stroke a customer's ego alittle and keep em in the dark and you can make the sale. I don't blame the consumer entirely for this one. Most of those who defaulted lost a job, so they lost their homes, and jobs are scarce enough that replacing one isn't easy. No this one's on the CEOs and salespeople and lenders. Why should they be helped at all? This economy is going down anyway. This will not save a thing.

  • Posted By: jm@cableus.com @ 09/25/2008 4:34:21 PM

    The members of govt. who approved this bailout (a crime of robbery) are stupid dupes of the Fed. et. al. who are all crooks striving to enslave the tax paying american public and thus destroy our country.

    J.M.@cableus.com

  • Posted By: Vador111 @ 09/25/2008 4:32:41 PM

    Why does every one think that what ever happens to this country is the presidents fault. Don't you people of this country understand that it is the Senate and the Congress that make up the rules and Laws That are screwiing us. The Demecrats have been in control of the whole government for the last four years, and they have done nothing but screw us over. They pasted a law that we can drill, but we can't drill within 50 miles of the coast, well they screwed us again cause there is no oil beyond fifty miles. SO WAKE UP PEOPLPE OF THIS COUNTRY OUR CONGRESSMAN AND SENATORS ARE SELLING US OUT!!!

  • Posted By: spallen @ 09/25/2008 4:32:35 PM

    Trust Paulson! We have been trusting him and Bernake, and see what it got us. He is a former wall streeter, and he will be looking out for his old cronies, not the taxpayer. Why do you think he lobbied so hard to not include salary caps on those we bail out?

  • Posted By: wrkdhrdfornada @ 09/25/2008 2:31:43 PM

    Does anyone on this board have a 401k???? If you do you might understand why it is important to do this. If not and you aren't saving for retirement you are part of the cause.

    • Posted By: patricia1016 @ 09/25/2008 2:37:47 PM

      How are those who are unable to have a 401K part of the problem? Living check to check just getting by? Please enlighten me.

      • Posted By: wrkdhrdfornada @ 09/25/2008 2:43:33 PM

        There is such a thing as living within your means. I don't make much money. But I make sure I at least put a something away for the future. Believe me I know what it means to live paycheck to paycheck. And to have nothing.

        • Posted By: patricia1016 @ 09/25/2008 3:14:21 PM

          Again, I am awaiting the reply to my previous post. How are those of us who are unable to have a 401K part of the "cause"?

          • Posted By: wrkdhrdfornada @ 09/25/2008 4:17:20 PM

            Perhaps I put that the wrong way. Anyone who is not saving a dime and living above their means are the problem. I did not always have 401k available to me. But I only borrowed what I could afford to pay back and put a little away. Even if it was only 5 bucks a week. It kept me from overspending which most people do not do which is why we are in this mess.

        • Posted By: valark @ 09/25/2008 3:02:48 PM

          Well, you have enough for a computer and to hang out and comment on message boards in the middle of the day. So you are actually better off than someone who has "nothing". Although, I do think you were trying to be positive about it and say that you make sure your needs are met, it still wound up strange to add that last sentence.

          • Posted By: wrkdhrdfornada @ 09/25/2008 3:52:37 PM

            For me it is not nessarily democrat or republican per se. It is all about responsibility. Some people got greedy. Some people think eveything is someone elses fault. Poor judgement. Bad decisions. I don't necessarily like the idea of a bail out, but it sounds like a necessary evil at this point. Something has to be done for the people who did try to do the right thing. And yes valark I do have a computer. I do work full time and I said I HAD nothing past tense. I worked very hard to get myself out of the scum hole I lived in. I took responsibility.

        • Posted By: patricia1016 @ 09/25/2008 3:11:11 PM

          Well if you can manage to put money away, good for you. But please know that not everyone is that fortunate. I live within my means as well, however, that does not afford me the luxury of putting any money away. Not when you are forced to take a substantial pay-cut, as well as manage with the higher cost of living.

    • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 09/25/2008 2:56:21 PM

      Probably most have 401k's and most have lost a substantial portion and this bail out while it may help recover some of your retirement funds, just cost every single man woman and child $2300 or $10,000 for every household so you lose either way.

      And the next Republican President will do the same thing to you, again, Bush has taken it to a new level, it happened with Nixon, it happened with Reagan and now with Bush. Not to mention Hoover who was before my time.
      These people don't actually work for a living unless you consider pushing paper work; they spend their time figuring out newer and better ways to take your money, and call it "work.
      My advice would be to immediately remove any and all funds from the stock market the day before another Republican is sworn into office.
      Guess we should consider ourselves lucky Bush failed to "privatize Social Security and have it up for grabs as well.

  • Posted By: soldout @ 09/25/2008 4:15:52 PM

    Everyone is focusing on the politicians and CEO's. What about the consumers that took out the loans knowing they couldn't pay them back? We as a society seem to blame everyone else for our issues and take no responsibility for our actions.

    Stop drawing lines in the sand and blaming the world. How about living within your means and pay cash. If you don't have the cash to buy your new 60"plasma or shiny new rims for your car maybe you don't need it. Stop penalizing me for other peoples stupid mistakes.

  • Posted By: Giveitatry @ 09/25/2008 3:59:53 PM

    Reagan deregulated the banks among many other institutions when he was president with partner in crime then vice pres. George Bush sr. These loans (most of them) would not have been made had the banks still been regulated.

    The Republican motto: Privatize my proftts, socialize my losses.

  • Posted By: palmbeach1 @ 09/25/2008 2:43:13 PM

    ALL I WANT TO KNOW IS HOW DID OBAMA AND MCCAIN BECOME OUR CHOICES FOR A PRESIDENT. IF NEITHER OF THEM HAD THE FORESIGHT TO SEE THIS COMING NOR HAS THE ANSWER FOR TODAY BUT INSTEAD WANTS TO BICKER OVER WHO GETS THE CREDIT, WE ARE IN MORE TROUBLE THAN I THOUGHT.

    LET THE WHOLE THING COLLAPSE AND TEACH THESE GREEDY BABY BOOMERS A LESSON!!

    • Posted By: Struggling MoM @ 09/25/2008 3:40:56 PM

      I totally agree with you Palmbeach1.
      I think Obama got in because Opra told him that he should run and he said "why not" and the millions of Opra worshipers will follow her words to the death. Even though Obama has no idea of what the heck he is doing, or what color poop is, but Opra does and will tell him the color it should be.
      McCain, I have no idea how the heck he got in there but at least he has sommmmmmme idea of what color poop is.

      • Posted By: VickyJ @ 09/25/2008 3:48:39 PM

        well said opra is running him

  • Posted By: VickyJ @ 09/25/2008 3:33:07 PM

    I think if we would stop all these free entitlements that our Govt gives to every Tom Dick and Harry that comes to this country wanting all these free handouds we would have lots of money in tyje Treasury they get from SSi $1,800.00 and then above that they get $700.00 and free Housing no wonder they can drive all these Lexis
    and Mercedes cars

    • Posted By: SeanT007 @ 09/25/2008 3:48:01 PM

      AND OBAMA WANTS TO SPEND ANOTHER TRILLION DOLLARS ON NEW GOVERMENT HANDOUTS FOR THE FREELOADERS ALREADY HERE.

  • Posted By: maggiedmcl @ 09/25/2008 3:47:45 PM

    Lock em UP! First Enron, Then Worldcom. In one day 5900 of us lost our job. Then Worldcom went bankrupt, we lost most our severance, all unpaid commisssions and SHERSON LEHMAN put all our 401k monies into "WORLDCOM STOCK"... so we lost it all. Not them, not Bernie Ebbers. Assets should be sold, employees paid, then stock holders. ENOUGH This is theft! As a single mom of 3, my kids never understood how mom lost her job, savings, retirement and still the Worldcom ads on TV and trucks roll. Cap the exec's salary, pay OUR bills, why should the american public bail those out who gave us the shaft? Oh yeah, because they ruined our economy and where was our leader???

  • Posted By: maggiedmcl @ 09/25/2008 3:46:10 PM

    Lock em UP! First Enron, Then Worldcom. In one day 5900 of us lost our job. Then Worldcom went bankrupt, we lost most our severance, all unpaid commisssions and SHERSON LEHMAN put all our 401k monies into "WORLDCOM STOCK"... so we lost it all. Not them, not Bernie Ebbers. Assets should be sold, employees paid, then stock holders. ENOUGH This is theft! As a single mom of 3, my kids never understood how mom lost her job, savings, retirement and still the Worldcom ads on TV and trucks roll. Cap the exec's salary, pay OUR bills, why should the american public bail those out who gave us the shaft? Oh yeah, because they ruined our economy and where was our leader???

  • Posted By: wig party @ 09/25/2008 3:42:54 PM

    Fly the American Flag

  • Posted By: AComm26 @ 09/25/2008 3:34:26 PM

    I do think that there should be a bailout for the bacnks but only on a case by case basis. 401k's and other individually invested funds should be protected. However, outrageously inflated severence packages, bonuses and perks should cease completely wiped out. The government needs to slow down and examine this thing in its fullest to make the best possible decision. The banks need to pay a portion back and if we, the taxpayers, will have to absorb any of this new (but really old) debt, they need to include a clause that will forgive a portion of our individual or household debt depending on our filing status. At the very least, $2300 gas cards for everybody!

  • Posted By: flamingo123 @ 09/25/2008 3:34:02 PM

    These economics mess we are in right now are the doing of the politicians. Be it Democrats or Republicans.

  • Posted By: VickyJ @ 09/25/2008 3:30:48 PM

    I think we need to stop all these entitlements to all these people coming in this country from all over wanting a free handput and get more than our own people that worked all their lives

  • Posted By: Blame it on the rain @ 09/25/2008 3:30:37 PM

    The number is about $2300.00 per person. If they give us the stock we pay for it will be worthless. If they keep it, it will be worth pennies on the doller! All of the rest will end up in the hands of the chosen few. The few we chose to represent us! Either way it is a lose-lose proposition for the taxpayer! Are there any politicians left who will truely represent the best interest of the people of our failing country?

  • Posted By: DUMPLIN @ 09/25/2008 3:08:55 PM

    DEREGULATION IS THE ANSWER. THE PRIVATE MARKET CAN HANDLE THIS MUCH BETTER THAN GOVERNMENT CAN. I CAN STILL SEE BILL (UGH) CLINTON STANDING THERE, POINTING HIS FINGER AT THE CAMERA TELLING US THAT EVERY AMERICAN HAS THE RIGHT TO OWN A HOME. HE WAS BEHIND FANNIE MAE AND FREDDIE MAC BEING CHARTERED BY THE GOVERNMENT. HIS ULTIMATE OBJECTIVE BEING THAT THE GOVERNMENT WOULD EVENTUALLY BE ABLE TO TAKE OVER THIS LARGE CHUNK OF THE AMERICAN ECONOMY EMPOWERING THE LIBERALS AND BRINGING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE UNDER MORE AND BIGGER GOVERNMENT POWER. SOCIALISM WILL NOT WORK AND I BELIEVE THE AMERICAN PEOPLE ARE GOING TO GET FED UP WITH THIS AND VOTE OUT THOSE WHO EMBRACE THIS IDEOLOGY. FREEDOM BRINGS HAPPINESS, DEPENDENCE UPON GOVERNMENT WILL BRING ENSLAVEMENT.

    • Posted By: it's about the future @ 09/25/2008 3:29:39 PM

      ENSLAVEMENT is trying and failing to cover your groceries, health, and mortgage.
      FREEDOM is having some time and energy
      over and above survival and anxiety.
      You may be a single person, or perhaps you don't have children,
      and these issues not so moot for you.

    • Posted By: basedrum777 @ 09/25/2008 3:20:40 PM

      Deregulation, ie. turning a blind eye, is what led to this problem. Most Americans have no concept about mortgage structures but are lectured since they turned 18 that renting is throwing money away. Regulating the industry to have standards befitting one that can cause such calamity should be a given.

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