Well I tell you what, my thighs never slammed shut, im always ready, and the reason why its not reported more of women cheating is because you can find a good woman before you EVER find a good man.
Well I tell you what, my thighs never slammed shut, im always ready, and the reason why its not reported more of women cheating is because you can find a good woman before you EVER find a good man.
You're kidding, right? I'm 30 and have never been married nor even engaged, and I haven't found a decent woman yet. I refuse to settle for less. Maybe that's what you should have done.
In my years of being single I've had married women hover around me like hummingbirds that have found nectar. I've had relations with 3 married women, and 4 that had boyfriends. Have I ever been unfaithful? No.
i was text flirting and there were plans to cheat, but my wife found out so nothing ever happened. i had never even met the girl. so the next night goes out with a mutual friend and makes out with "someone". she seems to have no remorse for it, meanwhile i feel like crap. it constantly eats away at me not knowing what went on. when she cheated on me before we were married, i came back and made it work. and she just runs away?wtf
Amen, I agree to that
Alright, let's be fair. Stop the male fixation on this matter and report justly. I know of just as many women who cheat on their husbands. Why doesn't that get reported? Ever?
Also, I can't tell you how many husbands have confided in me that his wife is not the same women that he married. AND, that as soon as the ring went on her finger, her thighs slammed shut. Now, I wonder why he's out looking elsewhere for someone who's interested in him..
" I think you'd better get a new set of friends....." LMAO! Niiice, wonder what you're hiding???>>That's rhetorical....pretty obvious :)
"I think you'd better get a new set of friends"..............LMAO, niiiiiice. Wonder what you might be hiding, hm?
I Think you are right, sometimes the man only wants to know that he is still alive in the relationship or marriage and we as women if we are in anyone of these relationships we need to step up to the plate or get out.
I never cheated on my wife, yet she always investigated my every movement because her previous spouse cheated on her. I spent many hours, days, and years trying to help her understand that I would never betray her in such a way. After 5 years of marriage and constant investigations and interrogations, to include gps tracking of my whereabouts, we divorced. I guess my word to pass on to anyone would be to be careful if you start interrogating and tracking an innocent person, Eventually the person will get fed up with the false accusations and move on as I did.
If a person has nothing to hide whats the big deal??
Just because you are married doesn't mean the other party loses their right to privacy.
Sure it does. Where ever did you get your idea... the MSM? The Orpa Show?
newsblue - so you're the type of person who would go through his wallet or cell phone???? OH MY, I am so sorry, honey. The issues which must plague your mind, filling it daily with horror. I was taught if it doesn't belong to you, don't touch it. A person is Not property, married or not. They are an individual with freedom of will and the right to privacy under our declaration of independence.
Oh. You'd be surprised what you may find. Maybe you should consider being a little more "aware".
That's quite alright. The man I would be with appreciate the fact that I treat them as adults. But thank you for the advice.
suit yourself... as they say
You might want to read TechGirl's situation below...
TechGirl's man had the issues, not her, she's better off without him.
Sadness-in-Seattle - So sorry to hear about the situation you found yourself in. My ex-husband was very abusive and falsely accused me for years... After 6 years of this I finally built up enough courage to take my children and leave him. Some 16 years later, I'm much wiser and leaving him was the Best decision I ever made. Don't put up with that stuff. If they don't value you as a person, the relationship wasn't worth it in the first place.
You know, reading this section, makes me remember that in the bible it says that the people who accuse you are guilty of the very thing they accuse you of. Sometimes also, it;s just a matter of that person has never forgiven. Either way it sounds like hell to live with.
I'm lost about why the sub is in here, i'm lost: I thought this was a discussion about men cheating. Here is what I have to say: I think it's a little sad that here is an article that seems to be encouraging women to take responsibility for their spouse's cheating. Why? Aren't all adults responsbile for their own actions? Why can't we just leave it at that? If a man cheats then he cheats. If his wife was pushing him away somehow shouldn't he be an adult and see if he can work that out with her before he cheats? Why is the woman even involved in this? Isn't a husband's (or wife's) decision to cheat a choice that they make all by themselves? I think so. I'd say it points to the character of that person, very very much so. And people who betray the trust of other people are simply inferior intellectually and on many other ways. They are like dirt. or scum. There is no rationale or reasoning for betrayal of a loved one, so save it. It's disgusting and something that is and when is uncovered, even the suspicion of it should be taken very seriously and checked out thoroughly. I speak from experience. Make no mistake. Your health is not worth any of this. If your spouse or partner is cheating find out for sure and deal with it. Avoid sexual contact with someone who is screwing someone else, especially without a condom but even with. Too many risks, too great a risk toi health. Poor guys doesn't feel appreciated? So he treats you like this? SHOW HIM THE DOOR.
Wow I'm sorry you've gone through this, sounds like you need to get some counsling to move on. The title of the artilcle is How to stop you man from cheating, not cheating bastards. Yes I agree with you that it is deplorable to do this to someone, but the article was stating that only a small percentage has to do with sex or you man is just a natural strayer. If you consistently belittle your man in some way he's going to stray is the basics of what he was trying to get across. It ususally doesn't have to do with character or itelligence, but rather how your mate treats you that forces you to go outside the relationship to find a kind word or touch.
It's kind of like rape. Is the victim in any sense responsible? NO. If I rob a bank is it the bank's fault? If I do anything wrong is it anyone else's responsibility? DUI? Any crime? Any sin? Any mortal offense? IS Anyone else responsible for what I do other than me? IF I lie is it your fault? My mother's? My neighbor's? One of my sons? WHO IS RESPONSIBLE 4 ME? I am. Same for you, same for everyone.
I completely disagree. This is a moral character issue and nothing less. And yes intelligence has very much to do with it. Not what u have but if and how u use it. I'm talking about problem-solving skills applied to real real life. I will never buy that cheating is even a reflection on the partner. It is only all about the cheater. And that's all it ever will be.
Okay, you have just justified why you would treat another person like crap. Congratulations.
Submariners came into this for the reason that they spend much of their time living under the sea with little female contact, making trips to port a little more susceptible to infidelity then the normal 9-5 guy, but apparently some portion of this audience believes that no matter what, normal male instincts are irrelevant. Not only that, but we are all human beings with feelings, and yes, cheating is bad, he should divorce her first.
Yes I agree. Leave the relationship first. Okay now here is my real story: One day on my home from work I saw the man I was living with in his vehicle with his exgirlfriend in the car. Long story short all of his belongings ended up in the dumpster that night and THEN there was ugliness, her stalking me with a gun, etc. None of this would have happened if he had the kahunas to break up with me first, unpleasant but more respectable. Q: Do I need counselling or just time to heal? A; Time to heal. Good friends, etc. going forward.
Bravo MNov.... Bravo.
You can see a lot of the guys commenting haven't been on the other end of the stick at least not fully. When they feel the mind numbing hurt and soul crushing betrayal, then we'll talk.
I have been on the other side of the stick. I was a faithful husband. And loved my wife very much. I know the crushed feeling of finding out that my wife was having an affair. There were issues with our marriage but never to the extent that I would have imagined her love for me had died to the point that she would sleep with another man. We are now divorced and two and a half years later it still hurts!
I understand completely what you're saying. Every relationship has issues; my ex said that we were having problems - as if that was an excuse for him to cheat. The only problem was that I didn't want to play a lousy video game with him as a second, full-time job. I am still devastated. The thing is he now complains they have no money (as she only works part-time) and that she doesn't clean or cook, so he has to.
This is one of the dumbest situations I have heard of. You are lucky to be rid of the loser(s). Don't give it another second of wasted energy. Maybe consider cutting off totally from them ASAP??? Better for you.
You'd be surprised. My doctor asked me what had happened in the last year (as I lost a lot of weight) and I explained the situation. She said she wasn't surprised; she's had five other patients in the same situation (their husband leaving them for a woman they met in World of Warcraft). Now, some can say that there were problems to begin with, but in my research (online) I've find there are a lot of men & women doing this in this game.
I should clarify that there are many men, too, who have lost their women to other men their wives/girlfriends met in World of Warcraft. The most hurtful thing is when he moved out, he didn't even tell me there was someone else - she was from out-of-state, so their contact was through the game, email, and, as I found out, via cellphone when he was at work. I found out from a mutual friend who thought I knew about his "friend."
I am very sorry for your loss.
It's possible they have. Men have an ability I totally envy: It's the ability to pretend the bad thing never happened at all. Ask one, I'm sure he'll tell you he can do that, and I'm so jealous I wish I could do that I almost wish I could be a man just so I could do that. I can't. I'm a woman. I just got done with a cheater, the third one on a row, after a lifetime of no cheating at all. I wish I could forget, but I know I never will.
O gee, not all men have this strange "ability" as you call it.
One guy was teaching me how to drive a truck. We wore driving all over the US. We crossed over into Mexico
and he cheated on his wife with some prostitutes. In his case I think it was lack of sex. It was 3 years ago, to this day I don't think his wife knows it. I told him I wont tell, so I have to keep my word.
How about a book titled "How to keep yourself from cheating" A new book on why men stray, and what men can do about it (?) For example Ch 1 "Grab the reins" (take some responsibility for your actions and the relationship) etc.
There shouldn't be a book other than "Common Sense" and "Do Unto Others".
This article does not take in to consideration that women may have things in their lives that they are dealing with and need a mature partner and not an immature, selfish childman. For example, Elizabeth Edwards has been in a fight for her life with cancer and probably can't pay much attention to her husband or family. And what does John do to help her through this terrible ordeal? He cheats on her! Give me a break. Cheaters, whether male or female, are just selfish, deceitful and dishonest people.
That was a pathetic display wasn't it? Boy were we fooled!
you know, you have to laugh...men need more touching and to feel appreciated? What about the women that feel this way for 30 years and never stray. Get a grip Doc and quit making excuses for men to cheat, there is never ANY reason for infidelity in a marriage, not one. I am amazed at how much women are blamed for men cheating....hmmmmm lets see...a day in the life of a woman, get up, get kids ready for school, breakfast, get husband ready , make lunches, go to work then come home make dinner, homework, run kids to practices etc....you think this isnt happening still? Guess again it is happening all over and the cheating husband feels under appreciated????? What a baby, a momma's boy who wants some woman to feed his needs and ego. Call a whambulance because your article...and No, I have not been cheated on, by man is completely devoted to me. This society needs to realize that hurting others has no justification for your own gratification.
Wake Up!
Yes. Thank you!
In the 1st marriage this is exactly what happened. She was such a good mother & housewife, she forgot to be a good sharing & appreciating partner for me giving & maintaining a great house. When I brought up the issue of appreciation, it was one era and out the other. When I invited her to a weekend getaway there was excuses she couldn't leave our daughter along, she was in her early 20s, or the house. Her priorities were the grown children, house chores, pets, tv, & cooking. All needs of men comfort but not one word of thank you for working & giving all these comforts. One day, I brought flowers and not one thank you. In front of our 23 year, I ask the wife about the flowers. She says, you want a thank you, get a parrot. That was it, I set my mind to find someone, which I did, and 2 years later. I was remarried. Now, the 1st wife realize her mistakes and is sorry. So sorry that the 2nd wife, 1st wife, both family members, and me are all good friends doing family events together. Also, the 1st says thank you for every little & big things I still do for the 1st family and her. Appreciation is the thank yous, comprises to share in activities one might not like, give space to do individual things and help & support each other in keeping a happy household. Openly talk about feeling needed, wanted and share ideas of intimacy. Both she & him be prepare to comprise to each other.
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It was worked out a while ago that men and women access logic and feelings differently... The only way to truly keep a relationship on an even keel is with profound understanding that comes from communication... Its just that men in general don't care for talking and women in general talk too much... lol
Is this why same-sex relationships don't work out for the greatest part?
I like you guys together, keep up the arguing, it keeps things interesting on here.
I would say that by the comment by MNov made... It could be said that she is not in a relationship.
AND so what?
I know, who is this guy and what does that have to do with anything?
Why? Because I won't tolerate cheating and in order to have one ( a relationship) I must be able to tolerate it? The truth is any strain on the relationship will definitely affect sex, at some point. So if the fundamental issues in the relationship are not addressed, sex will be affected, and why is the woman responsible for the relationship? Why not men also?
Here is my story about sexual promiscuity: some of u will get this and some will not: When I was in college I had a friend who worked with the mentally handicapped as part of his nursing program, in another town. He was a "supervisor" who lived in their residence on weekends and took them back and forth to work. He lived with them so he knew first hand and he told me that they (the people with greatly diminished mental capacity) are very indiscriminate about sex, about who, about what, about where or the circumstances, they can hardly be stopped from having sex with each other, neighbors, etc. It struck me as disgusting but logical, they lack possession of discrimination. Anything goes. AND they are naturally sterile, so they cannot reproduce, which is cool, I think. I was in college and learned a very valuable lesson in that: I can choose and I can say no and that's all right. So the people who say they can't help it or whatever are just, to me, well, idiots. Morons. Or just like them in that regard. My apologies for using terminology that might be considered offensive or discriminatory in making my point.
They are not all naturally sterile
I believe you are correct. I have heard of mentally handicapped persons being able to reproduce however I am unfamiliar with the workings of it. I speculate it may be relative.
MNov you are a genius compared to most of these comments. thank you!
U r welcome. And thank you, but I'm not a genius (140); it's 139, and I always LOL when I say it because I think it's funny, at least it amuses me.
As a guy I have found women cheat pretty much just as much as guys and that they have a better poker face than guys do when it comes to lying about cheating. I would be curious to see what the "true" results would be if women were hooked up to a lie detector test when answering "no" I haven't cheated. Plan and simple there are selfish idiot cheaters and honest loving people. The type of people that are cheaters look for those that they can get over on whether its subconciously or on purpose. At the very begining there are signs that can let you know what they are capable of......1) do they have a bully like attitude? (shows lack of remorse, shows selfishness, shows they are more concerned about personal satisfaction). 2) Do both of their parents cheat. May be a little harder to find out because someone still maybe hiding the information. But if you pick up on signs that both parents cheat, then you can bet the daughter or son is going to cheat also. Its all about the parents passing on values that have justified them cheating. Sorry to hear about the cheater in your life thorman61. If you think about you are better off knowing and seperated than not knowing and with them. Who knows what she would have eventually passed on to you. Take care of yourself.
I agree, you can tell a lot about a eron by observing asking questions about their family/ parents. Unless they have gone the other way and openly renounce the parental bad behaviou (and that happens), it may be best to keep looking lest you be very disappointed in the near future. true.
How sad that our society has gravitated to this point. Just as we seem to accept a general lack of concience we also are enabling our children to feel that they are not responsible for their own destructive choices. Where in this article is there anything specific about a man showing respect and appreciation for the woman? It is too often the man's disrespect and thoughtless actions that initiate the woman's disappointment and more often than not passive agressive behavior. It is time that BOTH parties take responsibiity for this problem.
You are right. Degenerated to the point of losing common decency and respect for another person.
stilernin - I agree, Very well stated.
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