Why Congress Is Failing America

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  • Posted By: tonyzito @ 09/26/2008 4:40:29 PM

    Are you quite sure, Mr. Gross, that it is "Congress" that is failing here? Is it possible that it was a Republican administration and a Republican congress over the year 2000-2006 who went out of their way to utterly wreck the regulatroy apparatus??? Do you really think a week or two is enough for a Democratic House and deadlocked Senate to undue this vandalism??? Perhaps you have a short memory, or some unsavory political motive here. In any case, let me paraphrase Ronald Reagan. "It is not government that is the problem, it is Republican government."

    • Posted By: americantaxpayer @ 09/26/2008 4:45:30 PM

      'Scuse me...but it was the Democrat President Bill Clinton who signed into law the regulatory reform legislation that lowered the standards of mortgage loans that Fannie Mae and Freddic Mac could, would and did end up purchasing - the single biggest act which brought us to this point.

      • Posted By: dale rutherford @ 09/26/2008 5:39:05 PM

        If you are referring to Financial Services Modernization Act of 1999, then yes Clinton did sign the bill into law. In regards to this event inacted almost 9 years ago the banking and brokerage industries 'lobbied' (ie bribed) both democrats and republicans in congress to obtain a level of bipartisan support. Clinton did push back initially and tried to amend the republican sponsored to protect CRA (law from the 70s requiring banks to issue a specific percentage of loans to qualifed but low income minorities and the working poor.

        In the end Clinton could have used his veto but congress had been 'lobbied' sufficiently on both sides of the house and both parties that congress would over ride presidential veto.

        So while your trying to lay the genesis and cause of this specific event at the feet of clinton, you should lay it at the feet of both parties of congress in the late 1990s.

        To be more specific, Republican financial genius Phil Graham (you know, the functional moron advising mccain) was head of the senate banking commitee and should be held more responsible for the FSM Act becoming law, and in hindsite being one of a number of catalysts resulting in the financial issues we have today.

        And there is the pesky issue of republican control of congress from 1994 through 2006 and controlling the white house from 2001 - 2008.

        • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/26/2008 6:37:12 PM

          True,yet you do not mention the guiding hand of Robert Rubin,now wrapped up in the Obama campaign.

          In studying the repeal of GLASS-STEAGALL in 1999,I was immediately drawn to that which came before the Republican Gramm/Leach/Billey Act.

          As early as 1993,and before the GOP ''Contract With America''takeover ,you did not see the name of ''Gramm'' or ''Leach''or ''Billey'' having anything to do with repealing GLASS-STEAGALL. You see Rubins. There are no doubts whatever that this was his brainchild,as he was the one who sheparded it,and was s source of consistant influence upon president Clinton. In the end,Gramm actually rejected Rubins repeal as he desired it. The final end of GLASS-STEAGALL was based upon a compromise between the two men,with Clinton observing from the sidelines until his signing. Thus the genesis of this thing that is upon us was a creature of bipartisan creation.
          However,and this is important,housing for poor and underwaged Americans has always been at the very heart of liberal social engineering. Ironically,it would become Republicans who would be the more regulatory-minded,and it would be Democrats,who would demand business-as-usual with little to no oversight. Rep.Barney Frank for the House ,Sen.Chris Dodd for the Senate and the Congressional Black Caucus stand most guilty of throwing up roadblocks to the 2005 Housing Regulatory Reform Acts in the Senate[where Democrats led by Dodd killed it in-committee],and the House ,[where HR 1461 passed under rejection by Frank]. This is admittedly,the only area of reform to be visited upon FANNIE and FREDDIE,and portfolio limits,since the end of GLASS-STEAGALL,which is why it is most obscene why Frank and Dodd [who will soon be investigated for his role in the COUNTRYWIDE loans scandal], are emerging as chief bailout spokesmen.

          PBS FRONTLINE May 03,2003:''The Long Demise Of GLASS-STEAGALL''[VHS/DVD].

          www.pbs.org

  • Posted By: EconChick @ 09/26/2008 6:00:46 PM

    My proposals are economically painful (akin to tough love)- but here they are:

    1. Do not pass this bailout. Let the banking industry self right itself. Yes, there will be a run on currency, and a HUGE constriction in lending, but if you cannot pay for it, don't buy it. Market corrections are awful, but we need one and bad...
    2. Adjust the minimum wage, and wages in general, to reflect our productivity and GDP. High/fair minimum wage is not anti-business as some conservatives would have you believe. It is pro-capitalism so long as you have the GDP to back it up.
    3. Pass legislation that makes it illegal (under penalty of death - just kidding) for special interest and business to make contributions to politicians/political parties
    4. Deprogram America regarding credit. Simple truth is, if you cannot afford a home or a car, the Fendi bag, etc., you are not entitled to it. (I am not talking about basic social services here - so don't misconstrue my words).

    That is it...

  • Posted By: cuppa jo @ 09/26/2008 2:55:09 PM

    If the Dem think this is such a great bill, they have the majority, why don't they just pass it? Because it sucks! That's why. They have a portion of the money that may be profit going to groups such as La Raza and ACORN.

    • Posted By: Paul.Car @ 09/26/2008 5:56:56 PM

      I cannot believe that ACORN will get anything. That group is partially responsible for this mess. Nice job Dems.

    • Posted By: AmeriScot @ 09/26/2008 3:05:18 PM

      Apparently, you don't understand and don't have much respect for REPRESENTATIVE government. It's probably time for you to stop writing comments. They are a waste of thinking people's time.

  • Posted By: haroldwolf @ 09/26/2008 5:49:13 PM

    I was listening today to the news and heard a man on the street come up with a brilliant idea. Set aside the hundreds of billions for the banks but funnel it though mortgage payments instead of a handout.

    So here is how it should work. Congress authorizes the money and home owners can have up to a pre-determined amount wired to their lending institution for a first or second loan on a home. The banks get their bail-out money via a payment on a home loan and the homeowner is relieved of some debt and everybody wins. This is so much better than just handing them the money or worse the government owning part of a private company.

  • Posted By: EconChick @ 09/26/2008 5:41:42 PM

    I have a few things to say:

    The fact is our political system has been infiltrated by corruption at the hands of special interest and big business, and the corruption runs deep in BOTH parties.

    Simple supply and demand can explain the genesis of our current state of affairs. In short, income has not kept pace with our US productivity, therefore we have more supply in this country than we can afford to consume (again due to wages that have not kept pace with our productivity). This imbalance in supply and demand gave rise to the use of credit/debt to finance goods that we should be able to purchase with cold hard cash. This leads me back to corruption of the US political system - big business has convinced us that the key to strong business is keeping wages low, and they pay into the political system (BOTH parties) to buy their influence. Instead of paying people a fair wage, big business redistribute wealth to shareholders.

    So, the Republicans are wealth redsitrubtionist to the rich, and the Dems are wealth redistributionists to the poor, and the middle class, who make this country work, continue to get f'd. We are getting screwed on the payroll end, and screwed on the taxation end, and I and many like me, have had enough.

    I believe that this proposed bill, no matter "how" much is allocated to a bailout is blasphemous and will simply buy us time rather than fix the problem, and I find it incredulous that our congressman and women such as Nancy Pelosi can stand before camera and state that this bailout protects the taxpayer.

    Nancy - This mess, and the proposed bill, SCREWS the taxpayer yet again. Further, I find it amusing that "protection" of the taxpayer is only germaine to you when the bailout is directed at business, yet you could give a rats butt about the taxpayer when you want us to fund social services or buy those who cannot afford it, a home.

    ah, but I digress...

  • Posted By: DalGal @ 09/26/2008 5:35:44 PM

    I honestly find these posts fascinatng. And an interesting contrast on readership. From the same MSNBC website, I read an article about the bailout crisis authored by Buiness Week.. Of the 210 comments posted, nearly all of them were well thought out and raised some intersting points.

    By contrast, the posts to this article, authored by Newsweek, are pretty lame. They either indulge in a lot of name calling, overly political and, in general, add very little useful information to the discussion. Not all of the posts, to be sure, but enough of them.

    Since both links came from the MSNBC web site, the initial audience was the same in both cases. I wonder what this says about the people who read the different publications.

  • Posted By: popgun68 @ 09/26/2008 5:32:34 PM

    It's so easy to write to them in this day and age. Simple google, "XX (your state's initials) senators" and "xx (your state's initials) representatives" and find on their page how to contact. DO IT NOW...I'm a small business man and I AM NOT PAYING FOR THIS BS PLAN...SO HELP ME GOD!!! SIncerely, Chuck Danas, NY

  • Posted By: popgun68 @ 09/26/2008 5:27:46 PM

    WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPESRON RIGHT NOW!. Tell them that if they approve this BAIL OUT that you will vote them out of office in the next election. I don't care that it's 5:38 on Friday night. They're working all weekend. DO IT NOW. DON"T LET THIS HAPPEN...there are other solutions. Sincerely, Chuck Danas, NY

  • Posted By: terrificworld @ 09/26/2008 4:18:16 PM

    There was there once an AMERICA chinese people much admired, yes. NO LONGER!
    America become un-governable! Everything has limits, including Freedom, Liberty...everything!
    We do not want your Democratic model. We dont need your Midia hipe...or your destructive Press
    or a President candidate that speaks to the whole world so ill of the very nations he proclaim to love,
    this Barrack Obama is a traitor of USA...he alone was able to instill FEAR and a vote no-confidence, to the outside
    world regarding the american-economy. He forgot that nowadays satelite-TV's reaches the whole of the
    globe...and people are hearing for over a year Barrack Obama slaming the american economy...so much so that his negative-rethoric finally took off!
    But he will pay for his negative rethoric regarding USA economy. Sure he will. Because actually the REAL economy in USA isnt that bad...it is OBAMA making it bad just for one purpose...Political gains!
    But it wont make him any gains...in fact it will make him lots of loss.

    • Posted By: americandefender @ 09/26/2008 4:34:01 PM

      You frikin moron were have you been the last 8 years! Have you had your head buried in the sand with the other birds of a feather, admit it you cant stand the thought of a black man being president i'll bet you are a KKK member go hide under a rock where you belong!!!!

      • Posted By: terrificworld @ 09/26/2008 4:54:23 PM

        Americandefender, stop your idiotic racism...because Barrack Obama even BLACK he isnt! he is a mixture of something, sure, but surely not BLACK !
        What i am saying is: Barrack Obama alone was able to down-fall, knock-down the American economy with his NEGATIVE rethoric, slaming the american economy for over a year...so much so, people in america but specially outside america started believing it...believing his fake,false,negative rethoric, that is, that the american economy is so horrible! that President Bush destroyed american economy, etc etc
        and slaming,slaming the economy..., and thats the result, people started pulling-out of the american market..wall street...etc.
        Most of your American Dollar is either in Asia or Middle East! people just lost confidence. If someone, in this case, Barrack Obama, talk day in day out that the economy is done, gone, so bad...people start to believe it,
        and thats exactly what happened to the american economy, or rather the american financial system, because the truth is the REAL american economy is doing fine! it is not as Barrack Obama rethoric sings!

        • Posted By: americandefender @ 09/26/2008 5:27:32 PM

          I guess you have your rose colored glasses on and can't see all the homeless people or the middle class slipping into poverty, you are a true blue moron!! Again go stick your racist ignorant ass back under the rock you slipped out of!!!

  • Posted By: popgun68 @ 09/26/2008 5:27:15 PM

    WRITE YOUR CONGRESSPESRON RIGHT NOW!. Tell them that if they approve this BAIL OUT that you will vote them out of office in the next election. I don't care that it's 5:38 on Friday night. They're working all weekend. DO IT NOW. DON"T LET THIS HAPPEN...there are other solutions. Sincerely, Chuck Danas, NY

  • Posted By: awalsh8174 @ 09/26/2008 5:24:32 PM

    Politicians beware. The vast majority of Americans are opposed to this bail-out plan, and their polling-place wrath can be mighty. This just might be the straw that breaks the camels back and causes wide-spread replacement of Washington politicos.

  • Posted By: awalsh8174 @ 09/26/2008 5:16:52 PM

    Couldn't disagree with Daniel Gross more. I'm all for the republican rebels who are holding things up. It's about time someone in this government behaved maturely.

  • Posted By: awalsh8174 @ 09/26/2008 5:14:45 PM

    Well, Daniel Gross is certainly entitled to his opinion - for what it's worth. I'm delighted that Republican rebels are holding up the process. Those "brilliant bankers", inside and outside the Fed, got us in this mess and I have no faith in their soultions to get us out; just more money supply growth and inflation, while the taxpayer picks up the tab. Whenever a politician tells me we have to enact a major spending program NOW, it's time to slow down and take a hard look. The Administration's just been part of the problem, so it's no surprise to me that Republican Congressmen are thumbing their noses at the President. Those Congressional leaders who are in such a hurry have been part of the problem too. You Republican Congressmen just keep asking questions. it's about time someone did! If I was in their shoes, I'd be doing the same thing! Let the markets emit a primal scream. We don't have free markets anyway. The government and the Fed have seen to that.

  • Posted By: ndrock @ 09/26/2008 5:08:15 PM

    Congress has not failed America. Congress is doing what they should do and that is making sure there is no other way to get this is right than pour 700 billion, and it will be more before this mess cleaned up, into something that there is no guarantee that it will fix the problem. Congress is demanding better answers and so are the "American people". Had not the Demarcates backed Clinton on deregulation of Banking when he was in office, this would not have happened. Too much power in too few hands, that is what cased this mess!
    Like OBAMA can say he is going to still cut taxes! Cut whose taxes? The CEO that RAPED the common man and woman. Their money is sitting in a bank in Switzerland, while they lay on some beach someplace laughing!!

  • Posted By: curryjm @ 09/26/2008 4:45:49 PM

    I'm with the House Republicans; this $700,000,000,000 deal stinks. There is no reason why legislators should be rushed into this thing; it's too big. Make the deal similar to the AIG rescue; give the government equity in the investment banks and insurance companies that need to be saved; let the rest fail. Just buying up bad debts at inflated prices merely sticks the government and the taxpayers with the dirty end of the stick.

  • Posted By: write1 @ 09/26/2008 3:50:12 PM

    Obviously the system for dealing with what is happening now should have been designed years ago, rather than in the midst of a crisis. And whatever solution is passed now will need to be supplemented later with permanent legislative reform. We are paying the price now for the fact that for most of the past decade, those in charge of Washington have been ideologically opposed to effective regulation. That's the difference between the mortgage crisis and the smooth functioning of New Deal era programs like the FDIC.

    • Posted By: jukeboxcat38 @ 09/26/2008 4:44:58 PM

      You're making a lot of sense here. I'm not happy we need a bailout, in fact I'm mad as h*ll. Most people aren't happy about it. But although I despise Bush and blame him in part, what he said the other day about the dire consequences of doing nothing or waiting too long are true and accurate. It is entirely necessary to remove the log-jam in the credit markets, otherwise no one gets loans, products don't move to market, people don't get paychecks, etc. Panic will ensue if the economy is allowed to collapse. My suggestion to people is to ignore the politics right now, and learn what you can about what caused it and why it's necessary. I'm not defending it. I will say it gives me some comfort the money will be invested, not completely thrown away; the government will "sit on them" until such a time they can be sold for a profit. So please, we need information, not panic.

  • Posted By: benedicite @ 09/26/2008 4:37:24 PM

    I think we need to abolish the two party system. What possible benefit do we gain from this endless ideological gridlock?

  • Posted By: myers16 @ 09/26/2008 4:36:08 PM

    The sad fact is Politicans and Wall Street have failed the citizens of America. Greed, selfishness , and power have become the norm. Hard working Americans have no confidence in our political leaders, we need our Congress to step up and preform the jobs they were voted in office to do. If Congress cannot or will not get past the Political Bull then they need to Resign and go Home!!

  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 09/26/2008 1:31:35 PM

    Gross is peddling a party line. Every single poll we see by a gigantic margin 80 to 90 to 10/15 shows that Americans are actually in agreement with the House Republicans line in the sand. Gross is in error.Voters will see the liberal Democrats,hip deep in their own corruption and mafeasance as we are seeing from the federal probe of Dodds sweetheart loan deals from COUNTRYWIDE,Rangels ethics hearing,and Jeffersons Go To Jail card, as caving to the monied intrerests with the GOP,finally rediscovering ''conservatism''. Every single last signpost we see shows clearly that Democrats had no desire whatever in regulating the home mortgage markets. The failures of 2003,2004 and most significantly,2005,displayed Democrat truculence to reform,and ensuring that their wallets were padded by FANNIE and FREDDIE fatcats who still lurk behind the scenes. Franklin Raines is hanging with the Black Congressional Caucus,and Jim Johnson,is STILL with the Obama campaign.

    www.opensecrets.org

    www.politico.com Sept.25,2008.

    • Posted By: libertyfirst @ 09/26/2008 4:31:36 PM

      Spot on, Holmes. I'll take my chances with a tight credit market...but something tells me that it won't be that tight anyway...way too much global capital floating around looking for a $ to buy.

  • Posted By: Tiger Bait @ 09/26/2008 4:27:06 PM

    Hang in House GOP do not vote for this monstrosity. Thinik about the taxpayer for once. We do't want to bail out idiots who bought houses they couldn't afford or Wall Streeters who caused this mess. If you can't afford to pay for something you don't buy it. Bush, Bernanke, Paulson, Reid, Frank and Pelosi should resign. The CEO's that caused this should go to prison for fraud or be banned from any involvement in Wall Street.

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