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  • Posted By: siggy007 @ 09/28/2008 4:56:50 PM

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  • Posted By: siggy007 @ 09/28/2008 4:55:14 PM

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  • Posted By: siggy007 @ 09/28/2008 4:48:31 PM

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    htt:?/thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/query/C?r110:./temp/~r110YM8Ohg..
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  • Posted By: tippology1 @ 09/26/2008 9:12:49 PM

    You know we are in our last days of doing what is right and what is needed in our country, simply because the American people are willing to vote on appearance rather then who is best at fighting for what we need in this country. The American public is shifting their vote for Obama simple because he is well spoken, dress and can charm anyone. Remember folks he is a lawyer, lawyers are suppose to have a charm manor and persuade the audience which in this case is the voters. No track record, no experience, no written policy, no problem Americans will vote for you because you are good looking. I am so sick of this process where appearance gets the vote and someone's hard work and life experience in almost every topic we have to deal with gets you hatred and a cold shoulder. Personally I am already pass 8yrs of a Obama Presidency because its just isn't fair. Everyone has the guy to be the great saver of every aspect our country needs and which under his plan our taxes goes up, few jobs created, our vulnerability to be attack and foreign policy loses strength, we look like we are a country who doesn't care about loyalty and time serve, a nation who cares more about revenge then who is commander in chief material which he is clearly not in no way shape in form. Its a dam shame that you can serve in the military, be shot at, dedicate your life for this country but when it comes to politics its the image you have thats get you over the top. Obama has a rough baggage, a personal history in a church that preaches hatred, shady business partners, playing the race card and again he is the favorite. All I can say is WOW, I never in a million yrs thought Americans would sink so low but we have and I for one hopes the bottom falls out once the guy is in office because he doesn't deserve to be there. I love my country and I am willing to serve in any way form but this is just flat out trendy and it stinks...................

    • Posted By: SuzyQ1 @ 09/28/2008 4:39:15 PM

      Agreed, it has come to appearance over substance. I agree that Obama has a clever mouth and dresses well, but I still can't see that he is good looking. No, with Obama it was the Pied Piper effect. We saw that in Austin, Texas when he went after the student vote. It is harder to trust a lawyer than a used car salesman. I've had to swallow my many years as a Democrat because I cannot swallow voting for Obama. Senator McCain's backgroung does matter. The man has served his country throughout his adult life. Doesn't that count for something

  • Posted By: binderdundat @ 09/27/2008 10:42:02 AM

    The corruption is already there and the bailout has not even started. WE are going to pay millions to CEOs and others that have contributed to this debacle with this money. WAMU's new man at the helm has not even been on the job six months is going to walk away with over 12 million and he hasn't been there long enough to get his own parking spot. Bullstuff.

    • Posted By: Mitchforth @ 09/27/2008 5:28:54 PM

      WaMu's CEO was on the job for three weeks. Now he's out of a job, not because he made mistakes (he was a replacement for someone who made mistakes), but because the company was sold. The severance package was in his contract.

      If you want a very qualified executive to take control of a troubled company, he will generally want some favorable terms in his agreement. Generally top executives of big companies can be replaced "at will" but get big severance packages. There are all kinds of reasons why a manager might be bumped out that don't necessarily implicate poor performance. He may have a personal dispute with board members, or the composition of the board or the company's ownership may be replaced. Rich severance terms are part of a deal between the owners of the company (the stockholders) and the management, which allows a management shakeup whenever the stockholders or the board want one. If you remove the option of putting "golden parachutes" into executive contracts, then executives will start pushing for terms that will make it more difficult for companies to fire them.

      The heads of failed companies could probably be removed without paying out their severance if they were fired "for cause," but that will probably result in expensive litigation, and make other top executives hesitant to work for that company.

      • Posted By: responsible @ 09/28/2008 4:01:56 PM

        Sounds good to me. I'd be willing to try things we haven't tried before. How does one get decent help anyway.

        • Posted By: SuzyQ1 @ 09/28/2008 4:29:11 PM

          Good job laying it out about the why of Golden Parachutes. That is just the way it works.

  • Posted By: Dhenesc @ 09/28/2008 4:10:54 PM

    Why are we ,bailing out someone that screwed up, why not give the money to the american people. if we were to give 174,000.00 to each American Citizian 18 and older that would solve the ecomony from crashing, and I dont' think the american people would mind being taxed on that.. I would stimiulate the ecomony,homes would be paid for, young would beable to attend colleges that they could not otherwise. itw a win win if you ask me. sure beats giving the ones that screwed up our money to do it again..

  • Posted By: mzbee @ 09/27/2008 8:24:32 PM

    i am really tired of the premise "if you want a very qualified executive" you must pay big $$. I believe these very prima donnas cheapen a business literally and figuratively. We need the guy who does a good job because he has pride and self worth. There are plenty of hungry guys out there ready to lead for a lot less. What have we got to lose?? The prima donnas have been busted!

  • Posted By: idonow @ 09/27/2008 4:38:49 PM

    if we had socialized health care would they have put this 80 year old women ar up enugh on the list so she could live long enough to file bankruptcy?

    • Posted By: waynerobinson3 @ 09/27/2008 5:27:50 PM

      In Australia, we do (sort of, for those without private insurance) have socialised health care. I am certain that an 80 year old woman who is a good surgical risk and requires a life saving operation would be very high on the waiting list, and might even get it immediately if necessary. If she required a total hip operation, however, she'd be waiting a very long time, perhaps till a next life, if that occurs.

  • Posted By: NCGrits @ 09/27/2008 1:12:38 PM

    I purchased a home three years ago. When I went to Wachovia for the mortgage loan, I was told not to include a promissory note or I would not get the loan. I was told to claim it as a gift. I went to another mortgage company and was told that would have been fraud on my part, even though I was told to do it. So, do I feel sorry for these mortgage companies... NO! They got themselves in this mess, figure out how to get yourselve out of it. It all boils down to GREED!

  • Posted By: Dragonheartxp @ 09/27/2008 11:37:39 AM

    From THE WALL STREET JOURNAL:
    Under the Bush plan, the Treasury Department would be able to buy $700 billion of toxic investments currently burdening many financial institutions. The hope is that doing so would encourage investors to recapitalize the struggling banks, and get the nation's bond markets working again.
    OMG>>>>THEY HOPE IT WORKS???? The US is bailing business out and "HOPES" IT WORKS?
    The taxpayer needs something more than "HOPE IT WORKS"

  • Posted By: deValleyGirl58 @ 09/27/2008 11:07:55 AM

    There are so many faces to this thing that one simple answer isn't going to cut it. Even without theis bailout America is borrowing money from the future of our greatgrandchildren, and the lives of our son's and daughters. I am a dyed in the wool republican 58 years never missed an oppotunity to vote, love Maverick Mc Nasty and Pitbull Palin, and their fighting spirit to put god and country first. ButSuspending all government spending and programs for the Middleclass just won't work because who will pay for the Headstart Programs for the 3,4,and 5 yearolds in North St Louis who are born of mothers forced into poverty by a lack of education and the opportunities to make good choices, who are part of the future of this Country, and will inevitably be the new owners of all this debt? who would pay for the WIC Programs, the medicare programs so senior citizens can have the pitiful amount of health care they have now? Some of the earmarks pay for that now. People at the lowest level of the american culture depend on them for help. Don't kid yourself the government programs that help these people are not generous, to obtain anything from Uncle Sam you fill out a ream of paperwork make copies in triplicate and wait,and wait and wait some more, often to be turned down or away because the right form wasn't filled out or something was omitted and it can take months or even years(look at Hurricane Katrina and even Maverick had to wait to be set free,just to name a coupleof incidents.) and you still don't get what you need, when you need it, or enough to really fix the problem. Nationalised healthcare may not be the best answer but it would at lest help people who don't have any thing at all and the american people are already paying high taxes for a health care system that combines government programs and private insurance programs that don't really cover enough to keep anyone healthy. Continueing at war with militants in a country that has a 79 billion dollar surplus when we are almost bankrupt suggests an alternate solution... how about if THEY start footing some of the bill? All these are just some crazy ideas from a Valley Girl who liked Paris Hilton's Take on the environment...all of the abvove. As a Country we need all the good ideas we can get, not some extremist rhetoric. We need a man who can behave in a civilised way on the world stage, who is poised and confident , and able to think on his feet, not just fly by the seat of his pants. now who do you think that is, based on the debate?????

  • Posted By: cesaralmeida @ 09/27/2008 10:34:42 AM

    You don't need to have a Harvard education to know that. What are amazing are the fearless speeches supporting the bailout of 700 billions without even asking the obvious question:
    -"Who put that money in their pockets?"
    Make these guys return the product of their ???diligent and efficient??? work.
    We must include in that group of ???smart??? people senators, politicians, advisers and employees paid with our money to watch and turn on the red lights at the time when the larceny was first detected.
    My friends, that will be known as the biggest robbery of all times unless the things continue to run freely and another created financial crisis would reach the market once again.
    Cesar C. Almeida
    Email: cesarcalmeida@hotmail.com

  • Posted By: Dragonheartxp @ 09/27/2008 10:28:05 AM

    Let me get this right....the US has so far paid 400 billion to bail out Just 3 companies and now they want 700 billion more??? OMG....THAT'S 1.1 TRILLION SO FAR if the next bail out package goes thru.
    I DON'T THINK SO.....Better put that's more than the total GNP for the USA in one year

  • Posted By: bobmasewicz @ 09/27/2008 9:55:14 AM

    Noda was "bailed out" by bankruptcy protection. Some paid for her bills and it was not Noda. What she did and what larger institutions are asking for is the same thing, but on a larger scale. I wonder what her position would be if she had stock in WaMu.

  • Posted By: aminahyaquin @ 09/27/2008 9:38:56 AM

    Anyone who says "i hope the bottom falls out once he is in office" is spewing anti=obama hate that overcomes their patriotism and likely comes from their own spite and bile, because the dishonest magical conjurers who orchestrated the first round in this financial debacle, the Clintons, did not get an opportunity to finish deatroying our nation. It figures that disgruntled Clinton supporters would rather see the whole country go to hell in a heandbasket rather than heal and prosper with Barack Obama the greatest presidential candidate and leader we have had in half a century or more.
    To state that Barackl Obama is handsome is beside the point. He is Black and that is all teh reacosts will see. I am among those of his earliest supporters that hope his transcendent mature message and brave leadership can gide our nation into a renewal of all its great goodness and strength.

  • Posted By: benluclar @ 09/27/2008 9:09:12 AM

    I thought I had read it all on Newsweek until I read this bumpkin story.
    Some plan: file bankruptcy.
    Yes, oh wise editors of this column, this is newsworthy, and sooooo informative.
    I really need to seek out better news information.

  • Posted By: ZappoDaClown @ 09/27/2008 2:54:45 AM

    I'm sorry...when she declared bankruptcy, did she think her bills were paid by a money fairy? We paid for THAT too. If she thinks all those businesses should just declare bankruptcy and start over, that is essentially what they are trying to do. It works the same--one way or the other the public will have to pay for someone else mishandling money. One way, and loan, one way backing out of their responsibilities. And we're getting stuck with the bill.

  • Posted By: Retsos Nikos @ 09/26/2008 8:44:37 PM

    I vow for the last paragraph of the above article. Financial institution managers shall not engage in risky business that gives the false impression of a blooming enterprise model, receive hefty bonuses and stock options on that shaky basis, and then reveal that they are going under -unless the government steps in to save them. This kind of business is what Brazil's president Luis D Silva called at his speech at the United Nations "The Anarchy of Speculators, " on quote.

    If the government steps in and save them, they will claim credit for saving the enterprise, reap again hefty bonuses, and the taxpayers will be soaked while the "anarchy of speculators" will continue. And why not?
    If the management of financial institutions make money while losing the investors money, and then make money again for saving the institution with taxpayers money, then, they have found the perfect Godsend
    environment to enrich themselves and drive others to poverty with impunity.

    Worse yet is a new propaganda campaign by the failing financial institutions and those Wall Street gurus
    who make their wealth with fees from them. They started to tell reporters that those "Toxic Debts" they want to unload to the government are a good investment because the government can re-package and sell them later at a profit! It is totally false! Without unloading those on the Feds, those will be "write offs," and write offs are total losses discarded to shrink the liability weight and enhance the float ability of the company - not valuable assets to be re-packaged and sold for profit.

    The government plan shall establish a $ 700 million fund to compensate investors whose total assets are worth less that $ 500.000, and let those who have made millions in the "anarchy of speculators"
    Wild Wall Street lose some of their ill-gotten gains. That is the only way to ensure some sanity on Wall Street. Let the financial market correct itself, compensate the innocent and poor investors, and send a message to the speculators: You drained the money from the market and brought it to the bottom. Now you lose some to brink that up to the prior level again, and, if it happens again, you are going to be the only loser. This will be the curse of Sisyphus on speculators, and it will surely be the best financial stabilizing factor from the present rapacious environment..
    Nikos Retsos, retired academic and losing investor.

  • Posted By: Aleksej @ 09/26/2008 8:40:31 PM

    SAVE AMERICA
    OPEN THE DOORS
    AMERICA IS A COUNTRY OF IMMIGRANTS
    IMMIGRANTS WILL SAVE AMERICA
    GIVE CITIZENSHIP FOR EVERYBODY WHO BUY A HOUSE BY CASH

  • Posted By: TomInOakland @ 09/26/2008 7:33:18 PM

    I appreciate this story about an elderly woman starting over after bankruptcy. But I also find it an odd way to discuss the Wall Street bailout. At its heart, Ms. Noda's story is actually an indictment of the American health care system. Ms. Noda was bankrupted by her medical bills. If she were German, Japanese, French or British it's hard to imagine she would have had to suffer as much as she has in the United States. Of all the industrialized nations in the world, only in the United States do we consider it acceptable for an elderly woman like Ms. Noda, who worked all her life, to be forced into bankruptcy by her medical bills.

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