http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260
New York Times September 30, 1999 Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260
New York Times September 30, 1999 Fannie Mae Eases Credit To Aid Mortgage Lending
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C0DE7DB153EF933A0575AC0A96F958260
ThThe new division in this country is not blue vs. red, but the responsible vs. the irresponsible. Rich or poor, government or NGO??? who are these people setting our hard-earned tax dollars on fire? Nation building (war and arms trading, Iraq and Africa- the UN) Corporate bailouts (stupid home buyers meet corrupt and greedy loan sharks spurred on by utter government incompetence). I am sick of all the lewd spending: It???s down right pornographic- the way ???our??? government spends our money with abandon and without any accountability or responsibility. For those of us who live responsibly (work hard, live responsibly and pay our taxes) our fury has just been ignited. We the people have lost our power???we need a 21st century tax revolt to get these idiots attention!e new divide in this country is not red vs. blue, but the respo
unfortunately, the responsible vs. irresponsible IS the red vs. blue. It's the same divide between those pushing the wagon and those riding in it, those paying taxes and those getting taxpayer services, those who give money TO the IRS and those who get money FROM the IRS. The lines have been pretty clear for quite a while and that is how Red and Blue came about. Its also why Blue states except CA are getting smaller and Red states are getting larger - more people fleeing the irresponsible end of the spectrum to places where other responsible people already have been living.
Interesting article purporting to detail Barney Frank???s history with Fannie Mae at http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
How do you feel about sitting atop the bubble with your IRA, pension fund, 401K dependent on those sub-prime failures? Think about Wall Street, hedge funds, investment products everywhere sitting atop those failing sub-prime loans. When you see the sifting sand that holds up your world, you can picture the situation and its danger clearly. Only when you stop the bleeding, allow the bankruptcy courts to modify loans, force lenders to stop making money on the default and mandate work out solutions for those who want to keep their homes will you stem the tide that continues to rise. Keep responsible people in their homes by preventing ARM reset. Lenders are dumping REOs and foreclosures for pennies on the dollar underminding the entire real estate market future. It is YOUR house that will lose value because lenders are dumping these loans into a glutted market with no regard to value. Building has already stopped, thousands are already out of work as a result. It will continue if the root cause of the problem is not addressed. The bailout bill may temporarily keep Wall Streete afloat but it will definitely not end the devastation and distruction in the housing market. Nothing in this bill stops erosion in housing values.
As I write this, about 11 AM on Monday, the Dow is down 2.5%, 280 points. Most of Europe is faring even worse. Brazil is down over 5.5% I hope Congress is tracking the markets durng the debate. This drop is a taste of what will come if the bailout is not passed. Passing the bailout will help some more than others, not passing the bill will hurt everone, and really, really bad.
Everyday we each make a decision for somebody else and often times without their knowing we have done so. The question is, did we look out for their best interest or our own, when we made that decision?
The DEMOCRAT party has demonstrated its complete disregard and disgust for the prosperity of the American population and its economy.
It has put partisan politics above the welfare of the nation by its demonstrated sinister plan to decimate the financial industry.
By infiltrating the administration of Fanny Mae and Freddie Mac with its own DEMOCRAT operatives and sympathizers, it has encouraged and even forced those 2 companies to grant mortgages to party sympathizers who could not afford to repay those loans.
It managed to achieve that end by forcing those 2 entities to avoid conducting background financial checks and assessments into the status of applicants to repay those loans. As a result, mortgages were given to the unemployed, those on welfare, and even undocumented illegal immigrants.
In effect, a significant sector of the housing industry became a deceptively subsidized housing market.
Just as the radical group ACORN has schemed to flood the welfare system with applicants in order to undermine its ability to function, so also the DEMOCRAT party has schemed to undermine the ability of the financial markets to perform their vital roles.
But the American public DOES HAVE AN OPTION TO REGISTER ITS DISGUST WITH THE DEMOCRAT party that is hell-bent on stealing this election in order for it to decimate the capitalistic system which has facilitated American prosperity throughout its history.
Only 5 percent of the mortgages which have been granted by those 2 lending companies are uncollectible. They have become the financial sector???s Achilles heel because they have been repackaged several times as stock options, thereby multiplying their accumulative detrimental effect.
The remaining 95% of those mortgages are held by families which have bothered to assess their financial positions, optimistically apply for and obtain their mortgages, and continue to repay them.
But the responsible 95% are furious that whereas they have been financially responsible, they must now also subsidize the default mortgages of the irresponsible 5%.
The DEMOCRATS have forced them into an untenable corner, but they can show their disgust for the oppressive DEMOCRATS by voting them out of office in the House and Senate, and by electing a REPUBLICAN president and VP who will reform Washington so that another disgusting massive DEMOCRAT extortion scheme can never be perpetuated on American citizens.
There is no hope for reason for some of you, particularly skk53 and other die hard Republicans that insist after 8 years of Republicans in charge, it is somehow Democrats fault that we are in crisis. Allowing affordable housing didn't make crooks out of the lenders. After deregulation and the Republicans allowing the financial industry to pillage the public, that is just what they did. Bad loans were the choice of the industry. Have you ever wondered why poor and minorities seem to pay more for somethings? Credit card interest and home loans come to mind. The industry calls them "higher risk" as if that gives license to take advantage of them through excessive rates and bad loans. You people who blame party politics are missing the point entirely. Deregulation allowed the fox to watch the hen house and guess what we are looking at today? The fox ate the chickens and are looking for more chickens to keep from starving. We are the chicken, people.
Unless people can put down a deposit of 20% on a home and have an income that enables them to afford the home they wish to purchase the lending institutions just have to say "no." The American dream of a home of your own and a car in the garage is fine but must be limited to what people can afford. When people making $30,000.00 a year are putting 5% down on their home and paying $500.00 per month for their SUV something sooner or later has to give, and it should not be the responsibility of taxpayers who work hard every day and play by the rules and don't live beyond their means to pay for the reckless, irresponsible behaviour of others. If some folks have to lose their cars or their homes then so be it.
I love football and would love to purchase the best 52" flat screen t.v. but I have a mortgage, medical and car insurance,
food, gas etc. etc. bills and don't want to use my credit card to pay for something I cannot afford to own. Too many Americans are in love with easy credit. Their common excuse, whenever they purchase anything with their credit cards is "It's only xxxx dollars per month." All those dollars add up and soon people are in over their heads and they complain they cannot afford health care while the are driving around in their SUV, living in a home they should never have been allowed to buy, and watching their $3,000.00 TV they are paying every month for.
If you cannot afford to pay 20% down for a home and earn enough to pay for your mortgage you should not be allowed to buy that home, no matter how unfair some people think that is. What is unfair is for the hard working taxpayers who didn't over-extend themselves by living beyond their means having to bail out those who cannot. Lack of responsibility and accountability are what is tearing our country apart and ruining our economy and way of life.
You have half of the problem right, but the wrong half. While the customer may need to understand basic economics that is not the way to fix the problem. Educating every single customer on personal finance and expecting that customer to make a smart decision won't work. The other half of the problem is that the financial industry loans the money. The financial industry has the knowledge and experience to know better, but it didn't. If we limit the money that a bank can invest in riskier mortgages, and require some way to cover losses then we have fixed the problem for the future. Subprime loans have their place, but the potiential losses must be covered. Down payments, higher interest rates, private insurance and better screening can all contribute. The problem is much easier and more likely to be fixed if it is attacked from the financial industry end. If the supply of mortgage money can be better controlled then the bad mortgages never happen. Mortgages work on a thin profit margin, so something that increases the lenders' costs only slightly can easily make the subprime mortgages unprofitable. Problem solved, and inexpensively.
Thin profit margin?
with comppounding interest on a 30 year loan you pay many times what the actual principal was.....
perhaps you meant to say the immediate returns???
In reply to my comment on mortgages' thin profit margins and the reply about 30 year mortgages having multiple times the original principal: Yes I did mean thin profit margins. Compunding is a powerful tool, and 30 years is a long time. Equities generally return about 10% in the long run. The return on the mortgage is the interest minus expenses, including the cost of the money for the bank. At 30 years 10% returns over 16 times the principal, 7% pays 6 times, 5% pays 3.3 times, 3% pays 1.4 times, 2% 0.8 times and 1% pays only 0.34 times the principal. As you can see, once you get below 10% return rates even a small change in return percentage can dramatically change your ability to stay in business. Mortgages are good business because of security, not because of profits.
Amen, 1000x.
mjkoch is 100% correct. And I'm just as angry to now be part of the bail out of Wall St. as I am to bail out the "I gotta have it even though I can't afford it" Main Street crowd. Owning a house (and vacation house and time share) and SUV is not a right. It is carefully thought out decision to be made by assessing your ability to repay your loans BEFORE you signed on the dotted line.
and when that homes value was purposefully inflated by the lender, time and time again? Im sorry theres definitely something wrong with the math that says something built more than 30 years ago costing $35,000 should be worth $200,000 now......
Nobody's wages went up nearly that much. The only answer here is to use time against them as they do us. Make them sell, lease, or rent within a timeframe or LOSE IT!!!
Sadly, this article leaves the prominent, unsavory players out. The Democrats are to blame for this mess, which began under Clinton's watch. Most of these subprime loans were a direct result of liberal social engineering. The Dems wanted "everyone" to be able to purchase a house; it did not matter if they could repay the mortgage. They lowered the lending standards. Fannie and Freddie contributed large amounts of money to Chris Dodd, Obama and John Kerry and very little, by comparison, to McCain.
The execs at Fannie and Freddie, at that time - Raines, Johnson and Gorelick, all Clinton officials - received tens od millions of dollars in bonuses.
Barney Frank had his hand in all this during the Clinton years too. Now, Frank and Dodd are put in charge of fixing their own mess, at our expense! Secretary Paulson is a former Goldman Sachs insider, and he's ramrodding this through to Bush's desk. The fox is in charge of the hen house here folks, and brainwashing articles like this one are keeping the truth from ordinary, gullible citizens.
This bailout included millions of dollars set aside for the corrupt "community organization" ACORN. Hopefully, this was eliminated from the final document. One other worthy note: the Dems control both houses of Congress. They could pass any Bill they want to, without the Republicans' approval. Why won't they? Because they know this thing will be unpopular, and possibly backfire, and they don't want their constituents to hold their feet to the fire politically.
The Dems only have their own well being in mind here. Dodd, Frank, Reid and Pelosi only want you to think they are the saviors here, but they are part of the problem.
Thank God for the House Republicans. They truly want to protect Main Street by stopping the "rubber stamping" of this Bill by Democrats, and, our extrmely stupid and naive president.
The Bush administration should have been keeping an eye on all this. They too are to blame for looking the other way. But this whole deal was a liberal plan to put unqualified borrowers into houses they ultimately could not pay for, and this article fails to mention that.
Sadly, this article leaves the prominent, unsavory players out. The Democrats are to blame for this mess, which began under Clinton's watch. Most of these subprime loans were a direct result of liberal social engineering. The Dems wanted "everyone" to be able to purchase a house; it did not matter if they could repay the mortgage. They lowered the lending standards. Fannie and Freddie contributed large amounts of money to Chris Dodd, Obama and John Kerry and very little, by comparison, to McCain.
The execs at Fannie and Freddie, at that time - Raines, Johnson and Gorelick, all Clinton officials - received tens of millions of dollars in bonuses.
Barney Frank had his hand in all this during the Clinton years too. Now, Frank and Dodd are put in charge of fixing their own mess, at our expense! Secretary Paulson is a former Goldman Sachs insider, and he's ramrodding this through to Bush's desk. The fox is in charge of the hen house here folks, and brainwashing articles like this one are keeping the truth from ordinary, gullible citizens.
This bailout included millions of dollars set aside for the corrupt "community organization" ACORN. Hopefully, this was eliminated from the final document. One other worthy note: the Dems control both houses of Congress. They can pass any Bill they want to, without the Republicans' approval. Why won't they? Because they know this thing will be unpopular, and possibly backfire, and they don't want their constituents to hold their feet to the fire politically.
The Dems only have their own well being in mind here. Dodd, Frank, Reid and Pelosi only want you to think they are the saviors, but they are the biggest part of the problem.
Thank God for the House Republicans. They truly want to protect Main Street by stopping the "rubber stamping" of this Bill by Democrats, and, our extrmely stupid and naive president.
The Bush administration should have been keeping an eye on all this. They too are to blame for looking the other way. But this whole deal was a liberal plan to put unqualified borrowers into houses they ultimately could not pay for, and this article fails to mention that.
Credit Default Swaps became deregulated through Phil Gramm's around 2000 in the Commidities Futures Modernization Act. That Act and the de-regulation of the financial industry in the Gramm-Leahy-Bliley Act of 1999, set the stage for what we see today.
There is a segment of the population who claims a superior interlectual when it comes to America. They are the people who profess to know anything and everything. Sadly, they know NOTHING. They are the people who blame everything that goes wrong in this country back to 1992 to 2000. Here we are in 2008 and yet the last 8 years have no meaning. These are the people who refuses to accept RESPONSIBILITY for anything and everything. That is why they chose a LEADER with the same qualities. My heart is sadden because these are the same people who will continue to DESTROY this country with their SELFISH, INSIGNIFICANT LIVES.
here's what the bankers and oil guys are doing these days... (posted today)
SINGAPORE (Reuters) - Big spenders in Singapore for the city state's first ever Formula One Grand Prix this weekend have boosted business for high-end social escort agencies by a fifth, a local paper reported Thursday.
"This is the best weekend this year," Prince Wong, owner of Singapore Escort Services, told The Straits Times newspaper.
Wong said he has received five bookings for the weekend -- including one for a local starlet at a fee of S$40,000 ($28,110) for six hours of work.
Wong, who said his clients are foreign bosses in the gas and banking industries, declined to reveal the identity of both client and escort.
"forcing mortgage companies to give loans" What have you people been drinking. No one forced mortgage companies to give poor people loans. READ MY LIPS! Mortgage companies PAID more money to sell these bad loans. I know one mortgage broker who made $6,000 up front and more under the table to HELP a borrower get a horrible loan. Lenders were using bait and switch tactics to increase their profits. They bundled these high risk loans and sold to the highest bidder. There was no arm-twisting mortgge companies. They were flying high. Their business increased 100 fold and they added more personnel to handle these loans. They called people night and day to solicit refifnancing existing loans. Countrywide must have called me every day for months trying to refinance my loan. Cards came in the mail daily from lenders trying to refinance loans. Everyone got them. No arm twisting! This was a scam of the highest sort! Like selling time-shares, selling the American Dream, homeownership but it didn't stop there. They refinanced millions of existing loans. Deregulation of the industry allowed open hunting season for the target or mark.
John Taylor, President and CEO of the National Community Reinvestment Coalition, a liberal associated with Rainbow/PUSH, said, and I quote: "The Justice Department under Janet Reno ... filed dozens of cases against financial institutions for violating the fair lending laws and the Fair Housing Act".
Do you think the willingness of the Attorney General of the United States to file "dozens of cases" against financial institutions has no impact on the types of loans banks will try to give? Fair lending practices and the Federal Housing Act, together with the CRA and other government regulations became, under Clinton, a big stick to push lenders into bad loan practices, and then, the willingness of Fannie and Freddie to buy these loans from lenders enabled these lenders to get the government off their backs and not have to carry these bad loans on their books. Individual mortgage brokers were simply tapping into a corrupt system already created and pushed by Washington.
Forcing banks, actually. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
A great way to increase demand and thus everyone's equity and prices rise, which they can then borrow against.
What an incredible video. If this doesn't open your eyes, nothing will.
http://beltwayblips.com/video/burning_down_the_house_what_caused_our_economic_crisis/
Thank you, to my friend Pat for sending this to me. This is SWEET!!!
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Silly video! Senseless commentary that is unreadable propaganda. You somehow believe that mortgage lenders had their arms twisted into making loans, slicing and dicing them into investment products, hiding the fact they were bad loans, taking advantage of people. Tell me how there is any advantage to an adjustment rate mortgage ARM for the people who had them forced on them without knowing how they worked. What they were told was, go ahead and close this ARM and when it is time to reset the loan, we will refinance you again, making more money on closing costs, fees, etc. I knew people t hat refinanced, taking 'cash outs' several times over 3-4 years.
The $700B don't frighten me. But I am amazed that the people who gave rise to the ruin of the financial industry are the ones managing the bail out bill. FNM and FRE are the two central cos that started the really bad domino effect. Two years ago the administration tried to reform the two cos but they were successfully defended by Dodd (Chair, Banking Committee, Senate), Barney Frank (Chair, House Comittee), the Democratic leadership and senators, including Obama. The lone Republican was Bennett and this allowed the Democrats to call it a "bipartisan" effort. Of course McCain wanted an investigation and further regulation of the two failing cos. So now who is leading the drafting of the bail out bill- Dodd, Barney Frank and the Democratic Senate and House members. They have identified the bad guys as Bush, McCain, Republicans and Wall Street CEOs. The greatest blame rest on Dodd (recipient of the largest amount of contribution from FNM and FRE), Obama (recipient of the second largest contributiion from FRE and FNM) and all the Democrats who defended these two cos now being rescued.
Comment: On Barney Frank and Fannie and Freddie, see http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
On Barney Frank and Fannie and Freddie, see http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx
Here's the lead of a New York Times story on Sept. 11, 2003: "The Bush administration today recommended the most significant regulatory overhaul in the housing finance industry since the savings and loan crisis a decade ago." [see link below]
McCain said in co-sponsoring the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, "If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole."
What was Barney Frank and fellow Democrats saying at the time of these attempted reforms? According to reports, Representative Barney Frank(D-MA) claimed of the thrifts "These two entities -- Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac -- are not facing any kind of financial crisis, the more people exaggerate these problems, the more pressure there is on these companies, the less we will see in terms of affordable housing." Representative Mel Watt (D-NC) added "I don't see much other than a shell game going on here, moving something from one agency to another and in the process weakening the bargaining power of poorer families and their ability to get affordable housing." [ See Community Reinvestment Act, second link below w/ history]
The first link below contains a purported list of the top 25 in Congress who got contributions from the folks at Fannie and Freddie. Obama is listed third, after Dodd and Kerry, even though Obama is just a junior Senator. Obama is followed next Clinton. The last link describes how some in Congress tried to use the original bailout bill to funnel money to groups like ACORN. See:
http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
http://article.nationalreview.com/print/?q=M2QwNDhkZTg2OGYzZjkzM2E2NDEwM2U5OGVkNTc0YzU=
http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9E06E3D6123BF932A2575AC0A9659C8B63
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj
Unfortunately, I never took one single Economics Class in school but I knew in my gut that there was no way the housing bubble would not burst. In my small town, hundreds of houses were built in the past four or five years. Houses with huge price tags that were being sold as fast as they could be built. My husband and I kept asking each other "Where do these people work ?" "How can people possibly afford to pay $1500 to $2000 a month in mortgage payments while working at a $14.00 an hour job?".
We know this area and the people well (it IS a small town) and we knew that a great many of the people buying these McMansions were making less money that we were yet they were living like Rockefellers. We knew it couldn't last. What we didn't know was just how devastating the foolish decisions of the homebuyers, the lenders and the fat cats of Wall Street would be to all of us.
I hate the fact that my children and grandchildren will bare the burden of this huge debt if this deal doesn't work. But I know that without this bail-out the consequences would have been catastrophic.
I want to commend both parties for working on this and I think we all owe them a debt of gratitude. Gripe all you want but if they hadn't worked on this plan tirelessly for the last week then there is good chance that we be facing an economic melt-down.
Will you change your mind about those kudos if you knew that the members of congress mainly responsible for the crises in the financial industry are the same people who are now writing the bail out bill? Dodd and Barney Frank, Chairs of the Senate and House committees defended Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac when Mccain attempted to investigate and regulate the two companies.
Remember the famous Clinton line, "I feel your pain (even though I am the one causing it)."
The Gas man
I am sorry that I don't have a Phd in finance, or experience on Wall Street. But I am an attorney who closed home mortgage loans for 25 years, and I believe you have missed the whole point. If I may simplify everything: AIG is an insurance company. Their business is to assess risk, and charge a premium for it, which will cover the assumed liabilities under the insurance contract and give them a return in excess of the money that they have to pay out. The question is, why did they (and all the other players on Wall Street) so radically miss the true risk of the securities they were insuring? Well, certainly, they didn't miss on loans to IBM, Wal-Mart and Ford; it was the mortgage backed securities issued predominantly by Fannie and Freddie that was the downfall. Now why would this be? Because Fannie and Freddie were implicitly guaranteed by the US government, and they were being pushed by the politicians to do so in order to make homeownership available to people who had never been able to afford a home before. This political trend started in the 1970's with Jimmy Carter and gained momentum in the 90's and the new millennium. And, although there were some who recognized the problem and sounded the alarm at various times (Warren Buffet, Greenspan, Bush, McCain, et al), none could get enough attention (or muster the sustained political will) to oppose the "homes for everyone" demagoguery. And most of the demagoguery was enunciated by Chris Dodd, Chuck Shumer, Barnie Frank and the other democrats on capital hill, who, not uncoincidentally, received massive campaign contributions from Fannie and Freddie, and also the Wall Street firms who they are now giving billions to fix the problem.
The bottom line: just like the Great Depression, this was a government caused problem. Wall Street would have never gone to the excesses they did without the assurance they had from Washington and their ???paid for??? politicians.
For history, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_Reinvestment_Act
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