What If Obama Loses?

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  • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/29/2008 10:42:48 PM


    (Part 2 of 3: Continued from my post above - Intelligence and Leadership: Posner)

    The high-level jobs are filled generally by lateral entries from quite different jobs, rather than by civil servants. Some of these high-level jobs are technical; an example is the chairmanship of the Federal Reserve Board. Such jobs are relatively easy to fill with persons who can be predicted with reasonable confidence to do a good job.

    But there is a tendency to exaggerate the versatility of the combined general-specific human capital that a lateral entrant brings to a high-level government job of a managerial or advisory rather than technical character. There are SEVERAL CHARACTERISTICS of such a job that actually MILITATE AGAINST THE PROSPECTS FOR THE SUCCESS OF AN EXTREMELY INTELLIGENT PERSON. First, these are ensemble jobs in the sense that many different skills or aptitudes are necessary to successful performance; if one of these, such as intelligence, is very highly developed, a person may neglect the others.

    Second, it may not be possible to use step-by-step, logical reasoning to solve the problems laid at the feet of the occupant of a job like secretary of defense or secretary of state or national security adviser. Such questions as what to do in Vietnam or what to do in Iraq do not lend themselves to rigorous analysis because there is not enough information to analyze. Intelligence is not designed for coping with situations that are not complex, but rather are profoundly uncertain. Having great information-processing skills is not worth a lot if you have no reliable information.

    Third, leaders or managers should be more intelligent than their followers or subordinates, but not too much more intelligent. IF THEY ARE TOO MUCH MORE INTELLIGENT, THEY WILL HAVE DIFFICULTY ASSESSING THE CAPACITIES AND LIMITATIONS OF THEIR UNDERLINGS and they will be tempted to substitute their intelligence for their underlings knowledge. Analysis and knowledge are, to an extent, substitutes. You can multiply two numbers rapidly if you have good computational skills or if, though your computational skills are mediocre, you have memorized the multiplication table. Knowledge in government resides in civil servants, and they tend on average to be less intelligent (also of course less powerful) than brilliant laterals. So the latter are tempted to think that they can make decisions with minimal assistance from the civil servants.

    The temptation is reinforced by a failure to distinguish between intuition and step-by-step reasoning. Cognitive psychologists explain that the human unconscious contains more information than we can access at a conscious level. As Herbert Simon (an economist and psychologist) explained, conscious attention is a severely limited faculty and must be

    (Continued in my post below: Intelligence and Leadership: Posner)

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 09/29/2008 10:39:56 PM



    (Part 3 of 3: Continued from my post above: Intelligence and Leadership: Posner)

    carefully rationed. Through intuition, however, we can access the larger repository of unconscious information. Hence we speak of a person as having EXPERIENCE or GOOD JUDGMENT or COMMON SENSE, as distinguished from being brilliant in the sense of being quick or having a good (conscious) memory. So now imagine a confrontation between a BRILLIANT PERSON WHO HAS NO KNOWLEDGE about Vietnam or IRAQ, and a CAREER STATE DEPARTMENT OFFICER who has spent his whole career working on conditions in one of those countries, who KNOWS THE LANGUAGE, has LIVED THERE, and is STEEPED IN THE COUNTRYS HISTORY, CULTURE, AND POLITICS. Suppose he offers some advice to the brilliant senior official, and the latter asks him to explain and justify the advice. He may be unable to do so because he may be drawing on a repository of information below the conscious level. The BRILLIANT OFFICIAL may be IRRITATED at HIS INABILITY to EXTRACT much more than A CONCLUSION FROM THE EXPERT.

    What is required at the TOP LEVELS of government is NOT BRILLIANCE, but MANAGERIAL SKILL, which is a different thing, AND INCLUDES KNOWING WHEN TO DEFER TO THE SUPERIOR KNOWLEDGE OF A MORE EXPERIENCED BUT LESS MENTALLY AGILE SUBORDINATE. Moreover, so specialized is management as a job that success in managing a business may not translate at all into success in managing a government agency. The firm-specific human capital that a person acquired in a career of management in a business firm may have no value for the management of a government agency, or for that matter a university, a private foundation, or an international organization. Indeed, an experienced manager of a firm may falter and have to be fired if a change in the firms environment requires a different type of management skill.

    A striking example of the specialized character of leadership human capital is Larry Summers. A TRULY BRILLIANT PERSON AND SUCCESSFUL SECRETARY OF THE TREASURY, he FAILED as PRESIDENT OF HARVARD UNIVERSITY though he seemed to many people (myself included) to be an outstanding choice. I have the highest personal and professional regard for Summers and blame the failure of his presidency not on him but on the Harvard faculty of arts and sciences. But the fact is that he failed, because he was not able to port his very considerable suite of intellectual and managerial assets to the management of an organization critically different from the Treasury Department.

    Source:
    http://www.becker-posner-blog.com/archives/2007/06/intelligence_an_1.html

  • Posted By: spicegirl @ 09/29/2008 10:39:32 PM

    · Posted By: proud soldiers mom @ 09/29/2008 10:25:46 PM
    Comment: Doesn't it bother african-americans to realize that Obama is only 6.25% african american and is ARAB-american? His father's birth ceritificate listed him as arab (not african american). ---- It's likehe is making a mockery out of our african-american citizens. Either that, or the realization that we are at war in the middle east and he knows he cou;dn't get elected it he was truthful.


    Stop this nonsense! You have been posting this crap all over the place. The worst thing is it is a blatant lie. You say you are a soldier???s mom, how would you like someone run a smear campaign like this on your son? You do not have to like a candidate or vote for him but please give him the respect he is due, the same respect you reserve for McCain.

  • Posted By: tuffguy38 @ 09/29/2008 10:36:58 PM

    McCain is not the enemy!!! The uneducated voter is the enemy!!! The fraudulent "citizen" who feels he or she is fulfilling their "sense of duty" by showing up at the polls and voting for the "flavor of the month" is the enemy!!! The "adults" of this country who read at a level of 5th grade or LOWER are the enemy!!! Their reckless and irresponsible behavior sets an example for their children that says "have no understanding of ANYTHING..................but make sure your OPINION is heard.".............what cowardly advice...........I love so dearly the book of PROVERBS..........where it says "WISDOM CRIES OUT IN THE STREETS.........YET NO ONE LISTENS"..............keep it up "America"...........because once we've made it to the FIFTH GRADE.......it's all downhill from there................isn't it???

  • Posted By: Legendary @ 09/29/2008 10:29:19 PM

    It's sad to see that people are looking at Obama's color when he is of both a white and black race. The mans views are far better than McCains but surely there are people who ratter see McCain win over a bi-racial male so it' go both ways. People should judge on what the candidate brings to the table for us the people. Sure experience is good but what dose it mean when not applied??? Common sense goes a long way also! It with be a new job for both candidates to be president. Look at Bush??? He had two terms and still nothing. His first term was experience and look at the USA now??? So don't be blinded by color people when it comes down to all od our lives not just black and white! That's why I am ready for change not because of race but what the person brings for the people. I ratter have a wise open minded president than a president that live with war on the mind!

  • Posted By: Legendary @ 09/29/2008 10:27:55 PM

    It's sad to see that people are looking at Obama's color when he is of both a white and black race. The mans views are far better than McCains but surely there are people who ratter see McCain win over a bi-racial male so it' go both ways. People should judge on what the candidate brings to the table for us the people. Sure experience is good but what dose it mean when not applied??? Common sense goes a long way also! It with be a new job for both candidates to be president. Look at Bush??? He had two terms and still nothing. His first term was experience and look at the USA now??? So don't be blinded by color people when it comes down to all od our lives not just black and white! That's why I am ready for change not because of race but what the person brings for the people. I ratter have a wise open minded president than a president that live with war on the mind!

  • Posted By: spicegirl @ 09/29/2008 10:27:24 PM

    For those who say blacks are voting race you are wrong. It goes much deeper than that. This is almost like a second civil rights movement but better, where blacks believe they are being recognized as being good enough to hold the highest office in the land. One has to bear in mind that this race has been depressed and dispossessed for centuries. They recognize that one among them is brilliant enough, competent enough and worthy enough to be president. They are not supporting Obama only because he is black, but because he happens to be outstanding. This to them is a historical monumental event and one in which they regard with pride. It has awakened in them a new sense of worth and a belief that they too can aspire to be great if they work hard enough. It is my opinion that should Obama win this will be the most powerful inspiration to blacks surpassing the freedom of slavery and civil rights. It will be a signal to them of a new era in which they have arrived!

  • Posted By: tuffguy38 @ 09/29/2008 10:10:56 PM

    Take a close look at the "supporters" of Obama who are pictured up above where we are reading here.......yes, go ahead and scroll up to the top..........take a close look at their faces..........these are the poster children for the average "American" voter............and if I was to put a caption underneath the picture it would say "maybe he will explain this stuff to us because I don't understand A THING he's sayin'..........."

  • Posted By: tuffguy38 @ 09/29/2008 9:58:46 PM

    Hey GoBamainColorado........

    Did you know that the average person who votes in the United States has a reading level of 5th grade or LOWER............and that doesn't "scare the hell out of you?".........wow..........you're a brave guy........you seem like you have half a brain in your noggin'..............Let me ask you "smart guy"......since we're not voting "race" (as you say)........then what are we voting?...............and if the average reading level of the average U.S. voter is 5th grade level or lower.......then how does your brilliant "educated" vote stand up against the MAJORITY who either do not understand any of the concepts or have the minds of little children (or..."Romero".....sorry Romero I couldn't resist).............?????????????????

  • Posted By: tuffguy38 @ 09/29/2008 9:33:22 PM

    We were waiting for your disclaimer (for like 20 minutes) ...........do you...........like..........not own a dictionary??

  • Posted By: angelabar @ 09/28/2008 6:14:20 PM

    Please reread this article and remove the word "black" and replace it with "white"- the NAACP would be filing a law suit and rightly so...don't publish articles like this. As an American I am not looking at the sex of the candidate or their color but what they stand for--I wasnt going to vote for Hillary yet I am a woman and I will not vote for Obama for the same reasons.As a white person, I am totaly turned off by this article--if race is the only reason you are going to vote for a person then don't vote-pretty shallow. I don't believe this article is the belief of educated blacks or whites. MY children did not know that there was a difference ,all people were the same in their minds, until they were told about Martin Ltuher King Day in kindergarten- too young to understand the true meaning behind the stories the teacher told my child they came home with. "White people were beter than blacks and so blacks couldnt drink from fountains that whites did." Planting those predjudice seeds into my childs mind at a young age. I am appaulded- can't people move on??? I don't live in the past-my childhood not being the best--but do I never let it go? Do I let it define who I am? Especially if it occured 3 generations ago? I have a 130 IQ, do you think anyone paid for my education? NO, I am white. Are all white parents wealthy-no allot of them live in impoverished areas too with absolutley no opportuniy to improve because American society is so bent on only helping out people depending on skin color. MY great great grandparents came here and couldnt get a job because they were Irish and eveyrone hated the irish at the time. MyGG Grandmother was kept hidden in the house and the family changed the spelling of their name so people would hire them so they could get paid and feed their family-never looking for a hand out, willing to work their way up in America. Like so many other emmigrants today. We need to forget my color, your color and just help each other out when needed-vote for the person most likely to help our nation through the next possible depression.

    • Posted By: jmellio @ 09/29/2008 9:09:07 PM

      I am just sitting here scratching my head trying to figure out how someone with an IQ of 130 doesn't know how to spell "apalled" or "alot." Perhaps you should brush up on your spelling and grammar skills, super genius!

      • Posted By: jmellio @ 09/29/2008 9:25:39 PM

        so sorry i forgot one "p" in "appalled" - but then again, I suppose I wasn't bragging about my stellar typing skills, was I?

    • Posted By: summer4077 @ 09/29/2008 3:06:55 PM

      If you couldn't get a scholarship with a 130 IQ then something is wrong with you. My IQ is lower than that and I had several scholarships and grants. I'm white, too. It's the utopian dream to think we could one day forget color and see people as just people, but it's not gonna happen in our lifetimes. Racism is still alive and quite well. Remember the Jena 6 just a year ago? Remember the LA riots just 15 years ago? Just go to any rural area and listen to normal conversations. You'll hear racist epithets more times than you can count on your fingers and toes.

    • Posted By: acrew @ 09/28/2008 10:09:01 PM

      Did it ever occur to you that the ability to change your family name (in order to get by and become a self-made "success") is a *luxury* that a person of color is simply not afforded? I certainly mean no disrespect to the experiences of other cultures that emigrated to the U.S. - they absolutely had a substantial number of difficulties. But consider that a quick name change and a couple of generations later, you're just an average White person now...with all the privileges and entitlement that this status allows. It is simply not the same, and I would argue that in making such a comparison you perpetuate the mentality that minority groups should just "get over it and move on." That simplistic view is both ignorant and dismissive of the very real experiences of oppressed groups. A person of black or brown skin cannot become a "Smith" and all the troubles wash away. Just a few reflections from one White woman to another. I invite you to consider them....

    • Posted By: buckeyegirl @ 09/28/2008 6:41:39 PM

      Are you kidding me? So you think we should not tell our children the history of the United States? As a teacher I have seen what has happened over the last 30 years as our curriculum has been watered down so we only teach "social studies". We have young adults who think WWII was fought in the 60's and Vietnam was sometime in the 80's. I have elementary students who have no idea who Christopher Columbus was. They can't tell me who Washington or Lincoln were or why they are important to our history. So I do believe MLK and the civil rights movement are a very important part of our not so distant past. Why would we not talk about it? And by the way I am a also a white woman who paid her own way through college without any help from my parents. And as for you with the 130 IQ - I would think your spelling and grammar skills would be a lot better.

    • Posted By: Legitt @ 09/28/2008 6:32:58 PM

      Angela, thats an ineresting story and im sure many many people have similar ones when they first came to this country. I know the Chinese people and many cultures were treated very badly and others were looked down upon. Theres so much more prejudice than just color, there's prejudice against sex, weight, lighter hair, darker eyes, big feet, sooooooooooo much --- people create prejudices, thats just some of peoples nature. My family came over years ago also and did what many hispanics do today, gardening, housekeeping, baby sitting, anything to put food on the table. But, like you said, we moved on from there trying to better ourselves. good point

  • Posted By: tuffguy38 @ 09/29/2008 9:18:59 PM

    All I can say is McCain is playing for God's team...............like Angel Food Cake!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Romero @ 09/29/2008 8:45:50 PM

    There is no doubt in anyones mine that this election is an historic event to say the lease. If Obama lossess, White America stands to loose the most. We as people of color, ( I am Hispanic), know what it is to struggle to survive. We are living in very bad economic times, and White America has the most to loose under the continuation of President Bush's governmental doctrins.. This election will show the world, China, India, Latin America, and all nations of color, that America still has a large sector of its population that is outright racist.
    Obama, has impacable acadamic credentials, while McCain almost flunked from the Naval Academy. Some may say that McCain has more experience in Washton D. C. . Yes they are right on that point. Look at the mess our government is in today. After so many years in Washington D.C. he has publicly admitted that he does not know very much about economics. That is why he is part of the problem. How can he determine when he is getting good advice on how to solve our countries problem. He has been part of the congress that is to blame for most if not all of the current problems. To make matters worse, he appoints a person who knows even less than he does about how to resolve our national and internationl problems to be his vice-president. Do I want to trust a man with such poor judgement to be my president. H-ll no!!! His claim to fame is serving in the military and serving five years in prison in North Vietnam. I am a veteran from that war. Let me remind you, that war was very, very , very unpopular war in our country. Students loss their live protesting that war. There were protest all over the this country against that war. I am not a politician and have no interest of ever being one. Therefore, I am going to say this, Mr. McCain, serve in the military, because it was a job, a career, that his family had a history of getting into. A career just like some families are doctors, policemen, firemen etc. from generation to generation. If you notice most if not all the Veterans supporting Mr. McCain, are career military men. Men who make there career of fighting wars. What do you expect. I am not putting down the military. I am putting his service in to some perspectiveand not allowing it to be blown out of proportion. When the Vietnam Veteran came home, from the politicians war in Vietnam, we were not warmly received as the current veterans are today. I just hope that thirty years from now we could look back and determine whether it was worth sending our soldiers to that war. I respect and like Mr. McCain and have followed some what his political career, but I do not think he can lead during these days.

  • Posted By: misterharban @ 09/29/2008 4:37:44 PM

    Amazing! There will be riots if Obama is defeated? I hope that those who would riot will refrain from destroying their own neighborhoods this time. I also hope that the rioters understand that the people they are now threatening to harm are armed and know how to hit their intended targets. This talk of riots is idiotic.

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/29/2008 8:27:11 PM

      Anyone interested in rioting should first purchase my book: Principles of Effective Rioting. In it I review some basic principles. 1. Do not riot in a city with a Republican mayor. 2. Plan ahead. Make sure you carry a flashlight, rope, and a knife. 3. Location. Location. Location. 4. Diversify. If you all steal the same thing, then you will have trouble selling it the next day. 5. Avoid perishable goods as electricity will likely be down for a few days. 6. Practice random acts of kindness. If you see that someone has overburdened themselves, give them a hand. 7. Don't rely on public transportation. You will need a car so steal one first. See my book the Seven Habits of Highly Successful Carjackers. 8. Eat a good meal before you go out to the riot and take a Power Bar. 9. Do not, do not talk to reporters from Fox News.

  • Posted By: Cantabrigian @ 09/29/2008 8:17:30 PM

    SO. They can suck it up! Politics are politics, and there are winners and there are losers.

    Senator Hillary Clinton obtained MORE votes; however, Obama formed a committee to choose a VP.

    One thing we know is the huge gap between NObama's well-rehearsed mojo and any substance.

  • Posted By: dunnhaupt @ 09/29/2008 8:10:56 PM

    The Clintons should now fight extra hard for Obama, for it is THEIR legacy that is now in danger. If they do not support the Democratic party's choice Obama now, Hillary will have no chance in the future. No Democrat has won without the Black vote.

  • Posted By: techresmgt @ 09/29/2008 8:07:43 PM

    A product of 'Infirmative Action' is more like it.

  • Posted By: Ohio for McCain/Palin!!!! @ 09/29/2008 7:46:10 PM

    He is a racist and so is his wife. I would not vote for a person associated with Rev. Wright! Dah! The whole campaign is a joke and so are the Democrats!

    • Posted By: josemarti @ 09/29/2008 7:56:57 PM

      What? What are you talking about? How can somone who grew admiring Malcolm X, Carmichael, Franz Fanon, and Marcus Garvey be racist? I am sure you must live in one of the former States of the Confederacy.

  • Posted By: ConservativeChick @ 09/29/2008 10:38:49 AM

    What if Obama loses???? This article is whinny....Obama should not be handed the keys to the Oval Office just because he is the first black affirmative action presidential candidate to get this far.... Personally, I do not see Obama as suave, handsome, cool, articulate, intelligent....I see him as a puppet and someone that can read teleprompter lines as well as memorize information.

    The almost 100% backing of blacks for Obama is racist....Obama's community organizer work was in a black community, helping just blacks...we do not need a president that will cater to this sector of our community....there has been too much appeasement...blacks pull up your boot straps and work like everybody else. The handouts have to stop. Look at the condition of the mortgage lenders in this country....blacks have been given homes at rates that they cannot afford, blacks have been given vehicle loans on high end vehicles that they cannot afford, blacks like to treat themselves well by eating out and shopping for attire to "look good"....reparations in the form of government jobs, postal, UPS, social, school administration, fire department, etc....have caused hard feelings toward the blacks....they are placed in positions that they cannot function in.

    McCain, McCain, McCain in '08

    • Posted By: kunaal @ 09/29/2008 7:52:38 PM

      wow, Obama graduated from Columbia and Harvard and was the the editor of the Law Review and you call him a product of affirmative action? This man is more intelligent than most of our previous presidents; he just happens to also be black. You are an ignorant "chick" who would have benefited from even a basic education and some diversity training. Again wow!!

    • Posted By: themajor @ 09/29/2008 3:08:46 PM

      Stupidty has caused hard feelings towards blacks. The mortgage crisis was created by greed on wall street and you know who was running wall street. You're sense of entitlement blinds you. Eating out? Dressing Nice? Car ownership? The nerve!!! AA's will never get anything that whites will not benefit more from.

    • Posted By: Alvy @ 09/29/2008 11:44:50 AM

      I bet your mother was very inattentive.

      • Posted By: benkrapf @ 09/29/2008 1:01:24 PM

        I bet her mother was Sarah Palin.

        • Posted By: AskPlus @ 09/29/2008 2:23:53 PM

          I bet the toxins in the fresh moose she eats scrambled her brain a bit.

  • Posted By: ljamesljames @ 09/29/2008 7:37:29 PM

    You guys need take a look around. Look at who is president now (a republican), and look at the mess that America is going through. When Bill Clinton was in office American was not in this crisis. To even think about putting another republican in office is ludacris.

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