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  • Posted By: gluchnurse @ 09/30/2008 1:08:22 AM

    Bravo Mr. Alter! In addition to character, how about being intelligent, REALLY intelligent. I don't want someone for president who jokes that he was almost last in his class at the Naval Academy-and who probably got in because Daddy was an admiral. I want someone who is 'scary' intelligent, who displays really good judgement, who is cool and unflappable. That isn't elite, people, that is presidential! That is someone who can be trusted when the world is collapsing to calmly figure out a way to find a pillar to prop it up while surrounding himself with the best and the brightest advisors. Yet Obama obviously makes his own decisions in the end. He is his own man, and close enough to his own struggle to remember what it is like to be lower middle class, to struggle, and to worry. He didn't marry wealth, he made it himself between he and his wife and their hard work.

    And frankly, although he can be tough, he seems eminently fair. And oh so Presidential-and this is from a 30 year Republican small town PA woman who is 55 -and who switched to the Democrats to vote for Obama. Oh, and my family is religious and most of them hunt. The only thing I am bitter about is being so much worse off now than I was 8 years ago-and I believe Obama can help!

  • Posted By: Fred Ackerman @ 09/29/2008 11:07:34 PM

    Once again Mr. Alter gets it right.. Problem is most of my McCain/Palin loving friends don't like to be confused by facts. Many seem to believe that Newsweek, The New York Times and other "MSM" are lying to them and get their news from Rush, Shawn & Fox TV. So the hundreds upon hundreds of reporters all over the country are lying? McCain/Palin are going to win the all important 'imbecile' vote!

  • Posted By: TruthCatcher @ 09/29/2008 10:45:03 PM

    I'm so tired of McCain supporters exploiting that he is an American hero every time he or his campaign is caught in a lie. Not to mention the ridiculous assertion that, if Obama had only agreed to town hall meetings, his campaign would have no need to lie.

    The fact of the matter is there are over 4,000 American heroes that have lost their lives in this outrageous war -- men and women who will never get the chance to run for any office.

    And what about the thousands of heroes who have been wounded beyond repair -- none claiming to be prepared for the presidency. They can???t even get the medical care they need because McCain voted ???no??? on the GI bill.

    I, for one, don???t get it!

  • Posted By: KellyBrowning @ 09/28/2008 11:08:10 AM

    I'd rather channel up Teddy Roosevelt than William Ayres, Reverend Wrong and all the others. Jonathan Alter: You are nothing but a second rate Kool-Aide drinking hack. You are precisely one of the reasons that journalism as we used to know it is dead.

    • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:19:24 PM

      Hey KellyB. Where have you been hiding?

    • Posted By: labman57 @ 09/29/2008 12:13:06 AM

      Typical banal commentary from a right-winger that lacks the intellect to present a sophisticated, persuasive argument. I'm sorry, did I use too many big words for you?

    • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 09/28/2008 11:47:34 AM

      Kelly you forgot to mention Rev Muthee, who would become the whitehouse religious advisor to McCain/Palin
      If McCain/Palin is elected the United Staes of America would soon be witch free, and we would have a hocky rink in every community.

  • Posted By: Benjamin Franklin's @ 09/28/2008 1:15:20 PM

    It is such a sad day in America when a man like Obama with little quailifications for the office of president receives the blessing of supposed intelligent writers. Noticing with my feeble mind that 95% of Hollywood and 95% of the mainstream media all think in the terms of the left. Another factor that this feeble brained man has obeserved. I've been to and throughout out Russia. Guess what? It (left wing) doesn't work! Great people, but a waste land except for Moscow and St. Petersburg.
    The fact that 95% of journalist, actors and attorneys thinking the same way is a scarey thought. That is not logical! In any working and normal field there are political differences with a more balenced % left and right.. You stated Warren Buffet being left minded. There are many businesemen that are right minded. See the logic? There is no logic in the 95 percenters.
    The most important thing I can state is, "I agree that your idealogy is admirable and a wonderful world it could be. The only problem is that it doesn't work!" So you have to see the solution is the next best thing. Common sense tells you to let your children grow up and become responsible. Socialism leans toward helping those in need. God Bless you leftys for that too, but you don't stop there. You want to give to anyone that doesn't do or want to do a hand out. That actually is nice too. Except for one little problem. I don't like working an extra 20 to 30 hours a week to pay for it! Responsibility, hard work, freedom, and our own road map and not the government's plan is my solution!

    • Posted By: babybear @ 09/28/2008 8:32:06 PM

      If you are going to make these kind of stupid comments, please do the decent thing and take the name of Benjamin Franklin off the post. Ben Franklin was honest to a fault while it appears you'd lie and distort facts to fit your 5 grade comments.

      sincerely

      b taylor

      • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:18:51 PM

        ben franklin was a misogynist of the highest order. And he's one of those "president's faces on the dollar bills". haha

    • Posted By: tc125231 @ 09/29/2008 1:31:05 AM

      Use y our own name, you pathetic dweeb. Ben Franklin is rolling over in his grave.

  • Posted By: bill4truth @ 09/28/2008 10:53:14 PM

    John McCain is a self-professed "American Hero". Real hero's don't go thumping their chests about their heroism. John McCain has just shown us in this campaign how shallow his character really is. He has traded lies for serious debate, distraction for substance, and cynical pandering gestures for genuine dialogue. He should be ashamed of himself. I am sure (at least I hope) he has accomplished some noteworthy things during 26 years in the Senate (beyond railing about $3.0 million bear studies and offering us $20 gas tax holidays). During the last months, he has undermined anything he may have accomplished. In that respect this hideous election process can be said to have worked. Now, whether distracted, superficial, scared American voters will actually perceive any of this? Tune in on November 3, 2008.

    • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:16:28 PM

      I don't know what kind of American you profess to be - but Sen McCain is an American hero and he doesn't have to profess anything. Your words are pure filth.

  • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:12:53 PM

    ALTER:
    Here's what your 'writing' inspires:

    Posted By: lingram @ 09/29/2008 12:37:15 PM
    Comment: "John McCain reminds me of my father after a few drinks-World War II was relived everytime. I hate to sound flip, but if the Vietnamese hadn't fished him out of the pond, he wouldn't be here to tell us his tales of heroics."

    LINGRAM DOESN'T WANT TO SOUND FLIP - HE WISHES MCCAIN HAD BEEN LEFT TO DROWN.

    Another wonderful statement by your fellow Obama suporter.

  • Posted By: This Complicated World @ 09/28/2008 1:17:26 PM

    Let's be honest here. McCain imagines a world of stark black and white, wrong or right choices. He cites dramatic examples and makes risky gambles. But let's be honest here. In the real world, where you and I live, where most of us are damn well certain of how many homes we have, the consequences of our choices aren't quite so stark as he imagines. We live in a world of nuance, a world of technology and open knowledge, we live in a place where every possible consequence has to be imagined and anticipated. Where victory and defeat are empty words when we can't afford to heat our homes, or or feed our families.

    In this complicated, nuanced world, we choose our words carefully, we talk to our enemies as well as our allies, and we stop and think about what we do before we do it. Otherwise we face financial ruin, place our families in danger, and continue to harm the planet in disastrous ways.

    For McCain, they are either with us or against us. Heroes or Villains. Let's be frank. That attitude, the consequences of that attitude, now threaten to destroy our nation. We choose whether we continue to use 20th century attitudes, even 19th century attitudes, in a 21st century world. Let's pray that we all consider the consequences of our actions very carefully.

    Especially in the voting booth.

    • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:06:14 PM

      I'd rather have someone tell me straight out black/white what they believe in and what they plan on doing about it. Obama has yet to be clear on anything as his positions keep changing as political expediency calls. I think the most qualified candidate is sitting on the sideline substituting for barry when he's not interested in mingling with the unwashed massed. This whole process is a farce.

    • Posted By: lingram @ 09/29/2008 12:43:39 PM

      Look up the meaning of Maverick. Could be construed to be a loner-one who does not listen to others at all. (besides being a calf abandoned by its' mother or the comedy back in the 60's called Maverick. I don't think this attitude is a good one for someone who claims they can bring the country together. We already have a president who travels to the beat of his own drum and look how far that has gotten us.

  • Posted By: sflibby @ 09/27/2008 11:04:07 PM

    Dare tell, just when was it that McCain had character?

    • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:03:23 PM

      How old are you? 18?

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 09/27/2008 11:56:45 PM


      When after four years in a POW camp, after torture and starvation, he was given the chance to go home. He asked if his fellow prisoners would be released too. When the Viet Cong officer said no, McCain said "Then I'm not going home either". That was character, unfortunately for McCain, he stopped being that man a long time ago. He is now the man who flip-flaps on issues (torture for example), does everything he said he was against and chooses an absolutly irresponsible choice for VP.

      Like Theseus in Greek mythology, McCain had an honorable youth but as an old man he squandered all. There's no way he gets my vote.

      • Posted By: bill4truth @ 09/28/2008 11:47:30 PM

        If McCain had accepted release from POW camp, he would have been shamed by his family and ostracized, probably court martialed by the military. His father was an admiral in charge of US forces in Vietnam. The reason he was offered release was because of that fact alone.His captors wanted to demoralize his fellow prisoners. Under the US miltary Code of Conduct, Officers were sworn to be released in order of capture. Ths is no testament to his character. There is little doubt McCain suffered greatly in prison - as did 1,000's of other POW's. However, I really do not think the US Navy would consider him a hero for refusing early release.

        • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:00:28 PM

          Go lay on your basement floor with no blankets, no running water or access to food. Try to sleep with the lights on 24 hrs/day and with music blaring in your head. Add several times a day beatings and interrogations and severe pain from inadequately treated injuries from torture. Try staying there a week - with no outside contact - no computer, phone, blackberry, TV - nothing. Let's see how long you would last. For someone how has never been tortured or seen someone tortured - your words are complete filth. Have you spent on day defending our country in uniform? If you haven't, and if you haven't ever been beaten just because you are wearing that uniform then praise God and shut the hell up. There are many other things to attack Sen McCain on - his patriotism and years as a POW cannot and should never be challenged by any American.

  • Posted By: hfny @ 09/27/2008 9:21:36 PM

    Teddy Roosevelt graduated magna *** laude from Harvard while McCain graduate 5th from the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy. He supported universal health care and was a true progressive. He was bound and determined to regulate industry and the government for the protection of regular Americans. McCain never met a regulation he liked until 2 months ago and voted 19 times to keep the minimum wage at $5.15 an hour. Not exactly progressive. That John McCain is at all like Theodore Roosevelt is a myth created by John McCain.

    McCain is simply a rich con man. He's for John McCain first, last and always. He has marketed himself well and deserves kudos for how far he has advanced himself although he was aided by his wife's great wealth and his family's military legacy. That is why he can only do one thing at a time - his all-consuming focus is the advancement of John McCain. The perfect metaphor for his always putting himself first is his choice of Sara Palin as his runningmate. He would rather put this country in grave jeopardy than lose this election.

    • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 09/27/2008 10:04:48 PM

      I think you hit the nail square on the head my friend as did Alter in his article. We can't afford another fool in the White House. The stakes are too high this time around.

      • Posted By: jjkk @ 09/29/2008 8:02:53 PM

        Yeah and if the two other fools: Kerry & Gore had used Bill Clinton to campaign they would have been in the WH and Bush and Iraq and everything else wouldn't have to be fixed. The Democrats are just as guilty for what Bush has done as they didn't come out and vote for a democrat for president. Let's see who will be whining on November 5th and about what.

  • Posted By: pearsoncrz @ 09/28/2008 4:56:27 PM

    In 2005, for the first time in history, a serious Fannie and Freddie reform bill, S. 190, was passed by the Senate Banking Committee. The bill gave a regulator power to crack down, and would have required the companies to eliminate their investments in risky assets. If that bill had become law, then the world today would be different. But the bill didn't become law, for a simple reason: Democrats opposed it on a party-line vote in the committee, signaling that this would be a partisan issue. Republicans, tied in knots by the tight Democratic opposition, couldn't even get the Senate to vote on the matter.

    http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=newsarchive&sid=aSKSoiNbnQY0



    In support of S 190, also known as the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, John McCain said: "For years I have been concerned about the regulatory structure that governs Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac--known as Government-sponsored entities or GSEs--and the sheer magnitude of these companies and the role they play in the housing market. OFHEO's report this week does nothing to ease these concerns. In fact, the report does quite the contrary. OFHEO's report solidifies my view that the GSEs need to be reformed without delay."

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/record.xpd?id=109-s20060525-16

    Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005 would have Amended the Federal Housing Enterprises Financial Safety and Soundness Act of 1992 to establish: (1) in lieu of the Office of Federal Housing Enterprise Oversight of the Department of Housing and Urban Development (HUD), an independent Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Agency which shall have authority over the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation, the Federal Home Loan Banks, the Federal National Mortgage Association (Fannie Mae), and the Federal Home Loan Mortgage Corporation (Freddie Mac); and (2) the Federal Housing Enterprise Board.
    Most importantly with regard to the CDS situation, S. 190 set forth operating, administrative, and regulatory provisions respecting: (1) assessment authority; (2) authority to limit nonmission-related assets; (3) minimum and critical capital levels; (4) risk-based capital test; (5) capital classifications and undercapitalized enterprises; (6) enforcement actions and penalties; (7) golden parachutes; and (8) reporting. Adoption of these regulatory provisions would have undoubtably affected the way CDSs were dealt with in "private" enterprises.
    The bill would have also amended the Federal Home Loan Bank Act to establish the Federal Home Loan Bank Finance Corporation., and transfered the functions of the Office of Finance of the Federal Home Loan Banks to such Corporation. If this had been in place three years ago, this whole situation might have been averted.

    http://www.govtrack.us/congress/bill.xpd?bill=s109-190&tab=summary

    • Posted By: tim_horstmann @ 09/29/2008 5:44:51 PM

      Pearsoncrz,

      Thanks for the information. But you neglected to mention that in 2005, the Republicans controlled the Senate, and thus had majority control in the committee. McCain only became a cosponsor after the bill had been introduced by Chuck Hagel, and offered no support for the measure beyond his single comment that you've so graciously reproduced for us. Additionally, the measure was reported favorably out of committe, and could have been voted on by the Senate (again, as they had the majority).

      Pointing to one comment made by McCain in 26 years of deregulation support doesn't change his record.

  • Posted By: ijwu @ 09/29/2008 3:33:31 PM

    picking palin is clearly me first, wining first, country last.

    picking biden is country first; if wining is everything, he would have picked Hillary.

    iw

    • Posted By: ijwu @ 09/29/2008 3:40:21 PM

      further, the pre-debate dramas made it even more clear the mentality of me first, win first, at any cost. say and do anything just to win, no matter what.

      Country First?? a joke, if not a lie.

      iw

      • Posted By: ijwu @ 09/29/2008 3:52:41 PM

        McCain was a hero; is a fine man in his own way. however, he and/or his care takers have lost moral authority. lied to mr. Letterman, after all the dramas about "country first." be a hero and truly put your country first, step aside. so is for ms. palin, who is so scary in her knowledges about this country and this world. just got a passport last year and then met a half dozen foreign leaders in two days in UN meeting in New York city!?! how many fools are in this country? how stupid this country could be?

        iw

        • Posted By: ijwu @ 09/29/2008 3:55:00 PM

          god, have mercy on this country, and the world.

          iw

  • Posted By: ChicagoSuz @ 09/29/2008 12:56:10 PM

    John McCain does remind me of Teddy Roosevelt - the one in Arsenic & Old Lace!! LOL
    Someone should tell your friend's father how many planes McCain crashed. He even joked about it when asking Obama to do the ten town hall meetings - "I promise not to fly the plane."

  • Posted By: timrogers @ 09/28/2008 8:59:51 PM

    Sen. McCain is an American hero. He keeps reminding us he was a hero. He reminds us of his sacrifice so we will skip through the rest of his resume. John McCain has been a senator from the sunny retirement state of Arizona for a long time. In Arizona his age is not an issue because in many parts of Arizona he is actually young. In the Senate he is just another elderly member. Among his elderly and less elderly fellow members, John McCain has been known for his temper throughout his career in Washington. His behavior has been and still is forgiven due to his POW experience.. Now we can add signs of senility to his instability. Now we have the glycerin to go with the nitro. John McCain is a remarkable old man who fails to face mother nature with common sense. He should retired by the voters with all due respect.

    • Posted By: lingram @ 09/29/2008 12:37:15 PM

      John McCain reminds me of my father after a few drinks-World War II was relived everytime. I hate to sound flip, but if the Vietnamese hadn't fished him out of the pond, he wouldn't be here to tell us his tales of heroics.

  • Posted By: Give ME! @ 09/29/2008 9:01:54 AM

    Everyone seems to conveniently forget who has the majority in the House and Senate. What makes you think things are going to change with a Democratic President? I say we vote all the bums out of office.

    • Posted By: lingram @ 09/29/2008 12:33:12 PM

      You seem to forget, the Democrats have only had a slight majority for not quite 2 years and Bush certainly does know how to use the power of veto.

  • Posted By: caraprado @ 09/29/2008 6:38:22 AM

    From:
    Head of State
    http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/anger-entitlement-and-contempt.html

    Saturday, September 27, 2008
    What A Debate Reveals: Anger, Entitlement and Contempt

    What I found shocking reflecting on last night's debate was how angry and entitled McCain was, in a very open way.

    McCain's manner was one of that who believed he should not even be on the same stage with this person. This indicates a person of extreme rights and extreme wrongs, not a statesmanlike persona, but an angry and impulsive one.

    McCain carries strong ideas of what a liberal is, ideas that very little from his cherished ideas of who betrayed the nation during the Vietnam war. A stock character, driven and created by his own rage, carried, as it has been since the '70s, with a virtual ideological blindness--blinded by a contemptuous rage--that there are others who cannot understand the world the way he can. This is not judgment, but angry certainty. This is not readiness, but a just-contained rage that he should be confronted by such ideas.

    You can see it in his constricted "can you believe it" rage at one who disagrees with him. This kind of contemptuous, angry dismissal of others ideas leads easily into the impulsive decisions of the last few months--generated with barely contained contemptuous rejection of those who would reject his ideas--only the most recent forms of those essential constructs--a contemptible media, easily fed with false notions and panaceas, as he believes they were earlier in his life; intellectuals, whose reason and deliberation is contrasted with the sharp, impulsive action that for his life has constituted a certain knowledge, and an angry, certain need to sweep away those who would stand in the path of righteous certainty.

    What is beautifully ironic is how McCain maintains this contempt even as he switches from one position to another in the opportunistic second--this is when the look of contempt and entitlement turns, for a moment, to anxiety and panic.

    Soon, however, the gaze is back. No matter what the new position is--impulsively determined, desperately grasped--if only "they" knew better. If only "they" knew the truth.

    This kind of ideological rigidity and certainty (note how Obama could not contain himself from smiling when McCain attempted to compare him to Bush in that regard) combined with impulsive decision making, from the "gut" of sure knowledge, is what has created the outcomes of the past 8 years.

    It was--in a setting where one would not expect it to be, where one would expect McCain to contain it--glaring apparent last night.

    This is an amplification of the last 8 years rather than a change.

    We do not need to experience this type of decision making again.

    Cite:
    Head of State
    http://headofstate.blogspot.com/2008/09/anger-entitlement-and-contempt.html

    • Posted By: edjones65 @ 09/29/2008 11:00:36 AM

      I thought they were both guilty of that, however when somebody like Bill Clinton steps up to defend John McCain and Kissinger speaks out and says that Obama was wrong it should speak volumes.Most Dems that I have seen thus far are voting for Obama simply for a change, the color of his skin( I do not want to stereotype blacks on this especially since I am black myself but he represents to a lot of minorities that anything is possible), I just feel he offers a lot of hope to people for many different reasons which says a lot about his character and broad appeal but I personally do not think he is ready yet. I see Bush as a trigger happy redneck but I do not see McCain that way, although he is a bit impulsive at times. I cannot imagine what kind of pressure these guys are under, but I would trust McCains judgement more than Obama's. I admit I keep my eye's and ears on Obama and try to aproach this with an open mind but with all the rhetoric from both sides I get really annoyed with this high school mentality of he said and she said stuff.

  • Posted By: kat218 @ 09/29/2008 10:32:05 AM

    Hmmm, you want 'prooof of this libelous charge' of ghostwriter Mr. Augusta. Why don't you take your far right partisan blinders off and read the article again. McCain admitted it.

  • Posted By: kat218 @ 09/29/2008 10:27:29 AM

    Hmmm, you want proof for the libelous charge of ghostwriter Mr. Augusta. I think you should read the article again without using your far right partisan blinders...McCain admitted it.

  • Posted By: GregAugustaGA @ 09/29/2008 10:18:09 AM

    Your true far left partisanship is showing Alter. "Ghostwriter"? Do you have prooof of this libelous charge? As for the Confererate flag, for some Southerners, it has nothing to do with race but with southern pride, our way of life, and let's not forget what the real fight was over, States rights. Was Rachel Maddow your "ghostwriter" on this piece of trash? As for Southern pride, one thing we can be proud of is that you sir are one of them and not one of us.

  • Posted By: radiantenergies @ 09/29/2008 9:05:39 AM

    McCain is a poster child for arrogance disease and the implications are horrific.
    Many traits of flawed thinking but the one that I despise is lack of concern for others.
    Alongside this is expressing an over concern for others in a group setting.
    Arrogance disease is reason to exclude from the human race. It is worst of the worst.

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