A man of great wisdom:
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
The Republicans killed the bailout bill—and McCain's chances.
A man of great wisdom:
http://www.atlah.org/broadcast/manningreport.html
Baloney...the dem's are a bunch of cowards looking for cover. Pelosi is the the worst Speaker ever. The Bill needed to fail.
If it wasn't a bi-partisain vote in the house, the Senate will block it. As long as there are Republicans near any power in Washington, nothing will pass without a break for the wealthiest that takes from the middle-class. All of the deregulation hasn't made main street prosper.
All of the Republican stuff from the trickle-down lie has crashed. One bubble at a time.
You haven't a clue I'm afraid. Just imagine if Obama wins, and they can enroll us all in re-education camps. Sounds like fun.
Re education camps. Wow. You mean like the Bush Crime families Gulags? Secret trials, wiretapping, warrantless searches, and other Rumsfield/Gonzales/Cheney/Rice abuses of the constitution?
I do not have a clue? You exhibit a shockingly asenine worldview, my fascist apologist.
I hope to be your personal commisar. I will watch you dig for Uranium by hand. (Like at Perm.)
I have read Solzhenitsyn. I fought the Soviet system, imbecile.
It is the GOP who has brought these things here. You own the lawlessness. Obama wouldn't do any of this. McCancer, who took a dive on torture sure has. McCrazy who has a Georgian agent whispering him foreign policy advice wants war with Russia, wants to stay in Iraq 100 years, and is ignoring Pakistan as the Taliban eats Karachi.
(You wouldn't be Todd Palin would you?)
After reading your remarks, I am glad that I am a serious 2nd Amendment apostle.
McCancer, McCrazy - gee, you are such an nice person. Well, I guess you don't have cancer, yet. Are you crazy - yes.
No wonder we are in the shape we're in...such oblivion, bitterness and falsehood. You are a shame.
How are the Republicans at fault here? Last time I looked, it was the Democrats that had the majority. I really do not think it is the Republican's fault if the Democrats cannot get their people to vote the way they want them too. Look no further than Nancy "foot in mouth" Pelosi as a big reason for this failure. And the people who DID NOT want this bailout to happen. Congress actually listening to the people? Wow, wonders never cease.
The Democrats have a MAJORITY in the House. Why are Republicans being blamed for this failure? If the majority party can't keep their people in line, how is this Republican's fault? As for incompetence, look no further than Nancy "foot in mouth" Pelosi for a large reason this bill did not pass. At any rate, it was the PEOPLE that also had a large hand in this bill not passing. Congress actually listening to the people; wonders never cease.
Not really. They were just holding out for concessions to help big business and higher-income earners. In doubt? See this analysis: http://dissentingjustice.blogspot.com/2008/10/was-gops-opposition-to-bailout-clever.html
Did you read the initial proposal from the White House? The only real heros inthe Hosue are those who said NO. Yes the situation is terrible but do we really need a socialist government to bail us out? That is part of the problem. The original proposal would have extended the Secretary of the Treasury's powers enormously. The then icing on the cake was in Section 8. No over sight and no opportunity to challenge the passage in a court of law? Scare tactics to drive Congress to accpet just one more encroachment upon civil liberties and the free enterprise system. Stupid, greedy people may be clever but they are essentially stupid when they think they can out smart the basic economic principles. So here we are being asked to take on the burden of their folly and while we are at it lose a few more personal freedoms.
Has anyone really read the initial proposal as it was presetned by the White House. There were elements that were totally unacceptable in a free market. Does the American public really want to give that much power to the Secretary of the Treasury? The appointed individual would weild enormous new powers under the proposal. More over go back and read Section 8. If you can swallow that then you are Section 8.*
No Bailout for this industry, JAIL IN should be the word.To me it is a lot like the internet bubble, the NYSE is a highly virtual world where a limited group of people was playing with other peoples and companies money while selling a reality "that it will get better tomorrow and there is nothing you have to do for that".
Yeah sure but only in lalaland. Great marketing however, but who believed the washing powder ads ?
It is amazing to see that a company with 119B$ in real estate assets is sold for just 1,4 orso, there are people getting insanely rich over this, cause what has changed to these real estate assets other then someone has valued them virtually less valuable ? And the taxpayer should fund that ?
Are you crazy??!! These "recalcitrant (Republican House) members" are the only heros of this debacle. If businesses can't run thier operations without overextended credit, then they don't deserve to survive in the American capitalism culture. There are plenty of socialist states for them to go and make thier living with government help. If John McCain suffers it is because he jumped with support toward subsidizing crooked, shortsighted, irresponsible behaivor.
Still Americans have difficulty in "understanding" Barack Obama and think him to be an "enigma" while the whole world reveres him as a "phenomenon"? ...
Wait, Wait . . . you Republicans didn't want the Bailout, but are mad that Pelosi's speech caused it to fail? That's like saying "The food in this restaurant is bad . . . and such small portions!" Remember, optimism looks forward, pessimism looks backward, and anxiety has eyes all over its head. And that's how you're reacting . . . flailing out at everything in your panic over McCain's declining numbers. Nobody really wants a bailout, but if we throw Wall Street and the investment banks overboard, pretty soon we'll see that Main Street is shackled to them and will be dragged along with them to drown.
Well, you almost had me going there for a moment, Mr Bunchoff! Obviously, you are very liberal, and have have lots of money in Wall Street. Am I correcit?
Looks like the Republicans lack a leader. I guess Barbara never read "The Boy Who Cried Wolf" to President Bush. If she did, he was clearly too stupid to understand the message. Our president ought to resign or tie a noose for himself; these seem like honorable choices for him.
Gee, Jabar - will he get 70 virgins in allah's heaven?
And, why are the Kennedy's so rich? Obviously not from "public service". Papa Joe made a fortune during prohabition, just like the other mafias. That is common knowledge. Do you think Teddy Boy has all that money hidden under his bed? I would guess it's in stocks on Wall Street, just like every other limouine liberal, who cries out - the Republicans ruined the economy. How can they actually look themselves in the mirror. Well, they probably don't. "Limousine Liberals, and Mau-Mauing the flack catcher"!
Gee, somebody is real, REAL bitter...quasqueton sounds just like my very old, very republican parents who are living in the past and refuse to actually SEE what's going on with the rest of the country. Get your head out of your b*tt and try to see another point of view for a change.
Hi honeybuzz: I am 54, and have sons 27,25 & 18. How, very, very old are your parents. Obviously, you are very young, and really don't know what's going on. I grew up in the 60's - voted for McGovern when I was 18. (You probably don't even know who McGovern is). Yes, it used to be - "don't trust anyone over 30" ! Anyway, just look at the facts - I mean not your brainwashed facts, and then decide.
Listen, there are historical examples of the kind of scenario we are facing: 1929 in the US and 1989 in Japan being the most memorable. It is clear that coming to a crisis like this always causes severe economic problems. The only way to mitigate them is to act, and act quickly to stabilize the system in the short term and regulate the system again in the longer term. In 1929, the Hoover administration's Treasury secretary's rallying cry was "liquidate them all" in a do-nothing-that's-the-conservative-way 3 years, resulting in a horrible catastrophe. So all you fools out there who oppose a bailout, I advise you to get curious about facts and not just spout your ideology. In other words, don't be like Sarah Palin.
Let Wall Street get a taste of their own medicine. No bailout!
These are the people who have no problem laying of thousands in favor if hiring people who will do the same job for half the price; shipping jobs overseas; breaking up companies; and, receiving more than $64 billion in bonuses last year alone while the rest of us can barley make it to our next paycheck. These people do not care about you until their own necks are on the line. I say let the big boys take a ride down the rapids. It will be a good learning experience. Maybe the will be a little more forgiving in the future.
loriw
John McCain has shown once and for all that he is not competent to be President. Sen McCain "put country first"? Are you kidding? The only reason Sen McCain "suspended" his campaign (it was never actually suspended - apparently the campaign workers in places like Iowa and other key states never got the memo so please spare everyone the story about the suspension) was because his poll numbers kept dropping. Sen McCain has not had a single coherent response to this mess for the last 2 weeks - what a surprise!!!
The only thing Sen McCain succeeded in doing is making a huge mess even bigger and messier. Leadership? What leadership? Even the majority of Reps from Arizona voted against the bailout bill - he couldn't even sway them! And please - spare me the sermon about Nancy Pelosi. The Republicans picked a fine time to get sensitive - poor them - their feelings were hurt. How convenient that they forgot about everyone else. So if you want to talk about incompetence - start with your moron candidate McCain.
heres an idea.since we have 700 billion to through around how about this plan for the american people.instead of bailing out the people who screwed us lets tell them sorry about you're corrupt ass and send some folks to jail.barney franks first in line.now since we got so much money lets give each tax paying citizen 100,000.00 dollars with the law that all you're existing debts up to 100.000.00 be paid with that money anything left is you're to spend which spurs the economy. you're cars will be paid,credit cards,maybe you're house. the lenders get thier money everyon will have less debt to go out and spend money. also the ones that have their houses in forclosure can use that money to pay the banks,not fannie mae but the lending banks that loaned the money,most can keep their house's and the bank gets it's money. tell washington give the money to us and we will fix it.after all it is our money
Why don't Barney Frank do a gay-porn telethon to raise the money he arranged to disappear?And on the networks which even now are loath to admit any Liberal had anything to do with mess? Obama could EM CEE and wave his magic tire guage and wear his special womens underwear turban!
The real losers in this campaign season are going to be some key participants... like Newsweek!
Come on Newsweek! Quit looking the other way!
When I heard Mcain was suspending his campaign, my first instinct was that it spelled trouble for Obama and that Mcain was going to score huge points on the leadership front. Then, not two hours later when I got home from work, what's the first thing I see but 2 back-to-back Mcain ads on TV, bashing Obama for his lack of leadership. (I live in the battleground state of Nevada, where these ads run rampant). Then I understood his move for what it truly was--a hollow ploy which will eventually sink his campaign Along with his Palin pick (hollow ploy, eventually sinking his campaign), I no longer seem so worried.
Did you here Obama selected a left winger, hard Liberal like himself for a running mate and it happened to be BIDEN? His ticket appeals only to left/liberals who don't have the votes alone to elect anyone!
Don't happy...be worry!
OBAMA and BIDEN say Americans suck first every day, every way!
americans do not suck! America is a great country!!!!
A Proposal to Resolve the Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac Financial Fiasco
In order to solve what has been termed the financial crisis, it is necessary to identify the cause of Fannie Mae???s and Freddie Mac???s catastrophic failure.
The cause of their downfall is the partisan democrat pressure put on those companies to grant sub prime mortgages to persons who would be unable to repay those loans.
The democrat senators and representatives, who mandated that financial background checks be considered unnecessary and unwarranted, facilitated that irresponsible granting of mortgages to those unable to repay. The motive of the democrat members of Congress was strictly and blatantly partisan - to buy votes, and to maintain years of party support.
In 2005, John McCain co-authored a bill to investigate and regulate the faulty business practices of Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, but that was opposed and defeated by the democrats in Congress.
On many occasions, President George W. Bush introduced proposals to regulate the mortgage lending companies, but those calls for regulation were opposed, obstructed, and defeated by democrats who were obsessed with the continuance of faulty lending practices.
In order to reform the financial sector, it is necessary that the sleazy politicians and top administration of those 2 mortgage companies who perpetrated fraudulent activity be publicly identified, investigated, and severely punished for their undermining the national economy.
It is only reasonable to expose the corrupt financial practices and their facilitators, and to remove them from any further activity, before any effort can be made to resurrect the American economy.
Otherwise, any attempt to do so will be useless, because the problems and perpetrators would still be present to frustrate and obstruct any meaningful remedial action.
This is certainly the Frank 'N Schumer Monster an american news media can not actually report accuratly having become as corrupt as Frank and Schumer themselves!
Rather than bail outs I hope it's prison for the guilty. Rather than earmarks I want to see indictments!
It is the Frankenschumer Monster and there others who were being permited by the persistant resistence by the DNC to senseable precautions for years!
And perhaps the biggest victim of the frankenschumer monster will be the nations news media.
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