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  • Posted By: joe_mama @ 10/01/2008 8:17:48 PM

    fredflinty is a moron

  • Posted By: joe_mama @ 10/01/2008 8:17:37 PM

    fredflinty is a moron

  • Posted By: fredflinty @ 10/01/2008 7:36:26 PM

    Its OBVIOUS that this was done by four BLACK students! They knew very well what the "ramifications " would be. The idiots would howl,cries of "rayyy-cizzum" would issue forth,and there would be demands for more "understanding" of "racial issues" etc ad nauseum. Not tomention the usual blubbering about how white people just dont understand how much RAYYYY_CIZZZZZUM there is out there--boo hoo!! This was NOT whites who thought blacks got too much(a legitimate gripe);it was blacks who thought blacks dont get enough,and cynically sought ot get more...and more..and more... And of a cardboard lynching is sooooooooo traumatic to the poor sweet little black devils,er-I mean dears,than why the F do they so often DO IT!?!?!?!v

  • Posted By: notroubleatall1963 @ 10/01/2008 6:37:28 PM

    Throw up. Tacky tacky Americans. Shame on us. Morons still thrive here.. .we provide a haven for them and Sarah Palin is their champion.

  • Posted By: bartsimpson2008 @ 10/01/2008 5:59:41 PM

    An incident like this speaks to the undertone of race in this years election and it tells us that we still have a long way to go to abolish racism. It is sad that anyone would chose to put such a symbol on a college campus. The person or persons who did this should be deeply ashamed and should not be punished but made to attend mandatory therapy sessions instead.

  • Posted By: msk91949 @ 09/30/2008 9:50:42 PM

    geeze big deal they hang a dummy. we did this all the time when our high school football coach lost a game in massillon ohio, no biggy..people in ohio think the coast libers are goofy, thank god ohio will determine the election. So goes ohio, so goes the president since 1972, and so by December you will hear as much about oboma as they did dukakis when he ran.. he was invisible the day after election day.. so libs..get over it

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/01/2008 5:47:01 PM

      well thankfully theres 49 other states that can determine the presidential election. don't mistake coincidence with fate.

    • Posted By: joe_mama @ 10/01/2008 8:45:06 AM

      Did your dummy havea sign that said, "affirmative action coach"?

      If not....no big deal.

      If so...you're just as ignorant as the rest.

      Any questions?

      JM

  • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/01/2008 2:52:02 PM

    Although I think that this display is very disrespectful and an unacceptable form of protest, I can understand the student's frustration with a system that aims to stop discrimination by discriminating. And...you act like black people are the only ones that this happens to. Have you not seen effigies on President Bush being burned and stomped in public protests? That is called freedom of speech and expression while this is called a hate crime. Go figure. To me, if you act violently against anyone, it is a hate crime regardless of their race.

    • Posted By: cjtery @ 10/01/2008 4:20:59 PM

      President Bush probably gained more from "affirmative action" due to his dad's influence in every facet of his life, from the Texas National Guard, to Harvard and the presidency, than Barack Obama did. An effigy of Bush being burnt is geared towards Bush the person, and not a larger statement to White people, or to previledged White people as is the case with a Barack Obama effigy which is a symbol of a policy toward an entire race. One is personal animosity and the other is racial bigotry. Then again, maybe you'll never get it.

      • Posted By: 4astrongamerica @ 10/01/2008 5:09:25 PM

        You know nothing about me. How presumptuous of you to know what I get or don't get. I absolutely believe that we are all created equal and are entitled to be treated equally. That all people should live in peace and be free from violence and bigotry. However, equality means just that - being treated equally, not being shown favoritism or given advantages because of the color of your skin. As long as people continue to treat minorities like they are not smart enough or capable enough to succeed on their own merit, then they will never be truly equal. That's unfortunate.

        • Posted By: fiona64 @ 10/01/2008 5:39:54 PM

          "Affirmative action" programs are not put into place to say that thus-and-so is not smart enough to get in on his or her own, but to make sure that the color of thus-and-so's *skin* does not prevent them from getting in at all. It was not so very long ago that racial discrimination was an accepted fact of life, and many universities refused to admit people of color. It prevents those who are equally qualified for the university or a job dfrom being denied solely because of their race.

        • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/01/2008 5:26:04 PM

          unfortunately its not so simple, there are systemic reasons keeping minorities as an underclass. until they are removed affirmative actions is absolutely required

  • Posted By: HisBoyElroy @ 10/01/2008 5:33:06 PM

    The Supreme Court decided that burning a flag was an act of "free speech", and was therefore protected by the 1st Amendment. How is this not also an act of "free speech"? Despite the obvious logic that actions aren't "speech" (remember, you CAN burn the flag as "speech"), if free speech is protected, we have to tolerate that speech regardless of how disgusting and offensive we find it. Apparantly, you cannot have your cake and eat it too. I'm quite sure the ACLU will jump to the defense of these students in order to protect their 1st Amendment rights.

    • Posted By: fiona64 @ 10/01/2008 5:36:26 PM

      The appropriate method of destroying a damaged flag is burning, per the US Flag Code. Those who burn the flag are expressing that it has been disgraced and damaged. *That* is the expression of free speech involved.

  • Posted By: thehappyamerican @ 10/01/2008 8:35:21 AM

    it's happened befor that black burned black churches seriely, expecting whites to be blamed threw the dull news media of the USA.
    There are plentuy of bloggers here on dull Newsweeks comments pages who urinate on the Aids Quilt if they could blame the stain on Bush or McCain.
    This could be less a materr of raw raceizm and more an attempt to use "race" in a campaign time. And for predetermined probable reaction.
    Newsweek sees racists and homophobes under every rock.

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/01/2008 5:32:29 PM

      yeah hanging an effigy of a black leader from a tree..... duh... nothing racist there

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/01/2008 5:29:44 PM

    I know it is easy for people to say this article is silly and we need to get a grip. So lets grip this...lets take a woman who was brutally raped. Lets slip pictures in her purse of someone being brutally raped, draw a smiley face to boot, its only a picture. Take a picture and hand it out to the family they would mind.

    Go over to a friends house and watch a movie of a man struggling to come to grips over losing his family in an auto accident, when you know that is how he lost his, better yet, start joking about. Not a big deal, right?.You might want a keep a raw steak in the fridge first.

  • Posted By: techresmgt @ 10/01/2008 9:47:44 AM

    Grappling? So many political figures have been burned in effigy over the years and only now we stop to ponder the meaning? Pu-lease. It's okay to burn everyone else in effigy, but not some? Get a grip. Nothing racially offensive about this case, in my opinion. Those that want to make it so, will.

    • Posted By: jnakhoul @ 10/01/2008 5:30:42 PM

      honestly there are racial undertones whether you choose to accept that or not

    • Posted By: Popsiq @ 10/01/2008 11:07:24 AM

      The problem is that , not so very long ago, black people were hung and burned in America, and it wasn;t in effigy.

  • Posted By: Gb.bestone.hA4 @ 09/30/2008 9:34:43 PM

    There are strong reasons to think that the Obama people are behind this--and if you can't think why, then you don't know how they have been behaving in this campaign and in the primaries. It's a common technique in certain circles, shall we say.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/01/2008 4:21:04 PM

      Interesting, you think an African American or anyone on HIS staff who put a picture of HIMSELF on ANYTHING hanging, except maybe an ornament during Christmas, to win an election.

      Let me try to imagine MLK sending someone from his staff out to put his face on a dummy to show that segregation is wrong. ..I can't see it.

      Let's try a radical figure such as Malcolm X, so he could rally everyone behind him to prove the MAN was on his tail...Sorry that draws a blank also.

      It's a common technique in certain circles you say, well then let's imagine someone showing a picture of himself mangled as a POW to drive home that he is a hero, ah yes the convention. Let's imagine showing the tower falling to make a weak point about war in Iraq...ah yes again at the convention. Let have everyone hold up banners that read USA so the people watching will know what country they are in...ah yes at the convention.

      I will not get into the veteran smokescreen at the convention, or the 'veterans know I will take care him' nonsense at the end of 1st debate. I will simply say 'no John they do NOT know'. So now that I think about it, I DO know the circles you are referring to.

  • Posted By: msk91949 @ 09/30/2008 9:47:20 PM

    Big deal they hang a dummy, they did this weekly to our ohio high school football coach when he lost a game. Libs need to loosen up. sheesh

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/01/2008 3:19:23 PM

      So you are saying in Ohio, you hung dummies with face pictures of noted prominent African Americans with anti intergration/affirmative action slogans around their necks whenever you LOST a football game and your high school thought it was no big deal. Interesting. Are you talking about during the 1960's?. I doubt your football coach would back you on that one, but I don't know the era you are referring to. Is there anyone else from Ohio that willing to collaborate his football story?

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/01/2008 4:13:27 PM

    n a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide the largest morgage bank in the world,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms. Also, Fanny and Freddy Mae which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash and we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before.

    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.

    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He either didn't care or didn't realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime.
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a tanking economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?

  • Posted By: anamorphicart @ 10/01/2008 1:46:10 PM

    No one really notices, it's just another Christian school teaching hate! Creating new homegrown terrorists.

    • Posted By: fiona64 @ 10/01/2008 4:04:01 PM

      I was not at all surprised that this happened in Oregon, unfortunately. I was born and raised there and, despite Portland's self-importance and self-proclaimed liberalism, there is nothing but narrow-minded thought to be found. :-( I have never been so happy to leave a place.

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/01/2008 12:46:08 PM

    thehappyamerican

    It all makes sense now, blacks burned their OWN churches down so whites can get in trouble.. There is no racism, nepotism, sexism, homophobism, terrorism or any other 'ism' for that matter in America today and there never was. It was all a misunderstanding to get news attention, right? The skinhead and KKK chapters are really just good ol' boys looking for attention; they would NEVER kill if left to their devises and they never did. Those black people just hung and castrated themselves to get on TV, right?

    America is not really fighting terrorism because they are are bunch of guys overseas that are misunderstood. We are just killing our OWN to get news coverage and blaming them because that is what we do in thehappyamerican world.. Likely

  • Posted By: klavigne @ 10/01/2008 10:42:26 AM

    Big deal. I'd be slightly more interested if it was the real Obama hanging there. This isn't national news! College kids pissed off at something, breaking news!!!

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/01/2008 12:55:02 PM

      only slightly .....

  • Posted By: cryals @ 10/01/2008 11:24:56 AM

    Many of us, as Americans, find this type of situation antisocial and unacceptable. Should this have been a minority student, African American, Asian, or Latino, the first thing the authorities would have indicated would have been, "We hav a terroist among us!

  • Posted By: GTX13 @ 10/01/2008 10:27:54 AM

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  • Posted By: flustered @ 10/01/2008 10:24:55 AM

    I'm surprised no one's asked this yet - is there more to this pledge taken at this school? The author of this article claims that the school looks down upon sexual acts outside the realm of "mutual compassion, love, and fidelity" - and then clarifies that this means homosexuality. Is this a leap the author is making, or this there more in the pledge to imply this? Can "mutual compassion, etc" not include gays and lesbians? That seemed like an incredibly ignorant assumption to make. Because gay people do nothing but engage in anonymous group sex all the time. I'd like to know more about this pledge...

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