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  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 10/02/2008 2:44:50 PM

    Or,to put more plainly,what does Pakistan have to do with al Qaeda?

    This was a gross error on the portion of a NEWSWEAK article several weeks back. It ignored the Yemen bombings as an event organic to the larger Middle East. It ,acting as Obamas Press Secretary,maintains the ''Pakistan nexis ''lede,without bothering to explain how the amorphus al Qaeda could easily move from nation to nation,much as it did in the 1990s. That it is taking up firm residence in Algeria,Yemen,Eritria,Morocco,and the sub-Sahara ,and almost certainly Kosovo,thus winning a European beachhead,is lost on both Obama and the ''Legacy Media'',now trying mightily to get their man in.
    To ''go after bin Laden'' is to invite liberal comparisons to Bushs' ''whack-a-mole''during the unsettled,more violent period in Iraq. Obama turns a fixed gaze to Pakistan,while al Qaeda moves with surety in other regions,possibly ,indeed certainly,working beneath new Paladins whose names we know not of. Thus, either candidate will have to walk and chew gum at the same time. Obama has one thing going for him that McCain does not. The support of the jihadi system in the Middle East. [indeed,as much as 34 million dollars of his campaign support,according to a Federal Election Commission still sifting through Obamas incomplete donor records,comes from,among other nations, Libya,Saudi Arabia,Jordan,Nigeria,Iran,Lebanon,and the Palestinian territories]. Whether he can parlay this support into negotiation between the two sides remains to be seen.

    www.fec.gov

    • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 10/02/2008 3:52:05 PM

      Are you nucking futs? Bin Laden is in Pakistan, you dolt. What does Pakistan have to do with Al Qaeda? What does Rome have to do with the Pope?

      • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 10/02/2008 7:28:10 PM

        Do not be obtuse. al Qaeda does not NEED bin Laden in order to forment jihad in other regions of the planet. You forget that the bloodiest strikes aimed at Americans by al Qaeda in the last two months have not eminated from Pakistan at all. Nor is their disruptive influence a portion of Pakistan solely. Obama goes tilting at Pak windmills,he will not ''get''bin Laden,he will begin a general war between the US and that nation,he will singlehandedly destabilize this region,and we will still see attacks[have already],in places other than Pakistan. You desire to create a new Iraq-style war? Be my guest.

  • Posted By: alpha_nu_916 @ 10/02/2008 7:18:38 PM

    bill o'reily in a movie, i gotta go see this now! maybe he pokes fun at that embarassing incident which involved bill o'reily, a luafa and an assistant .
    hopefully there will be some midnight triple feature with "an american carol" followed by "epic movie" and "disaster movie."
    in the last decade nothing guarantees laughs like a poorly written, slapped together, 78 minute film lampooning irrelevant or out-dated material. michael moore's "bowling for columbine" and "fahrenheit 9/11" both came out over four years ago and it only took "writer/director" david zucker this long to produce a script parodying him. dude, you're pretty sharpe.
    i hope david zucker didn't forget to include reference of michael dukakis' infamous tank ride, bill clinton's "oral" office, jesse jackson, and al gore in this movie. oh, and he better rip hubert humphrey a new one.
    i have already prepaid for 100 tickets on fandango.

  • Posted By: ConservativeWoman @ 10/02/2008 4:47:19 PM

    If you want to know what will happen to this country under an Obama presidency, just read "Atlas Shrugged". We already have the press that portrayed in the book - completely in the tank for socialism. Once enacted, those who produce will slowly shut down rather than be restricted and monitored by the government. The slackers will take some time before they realize what is happening, but without the working, producing, creating, inventing, capitalist class, their lives will become more dismal and the state will not be able to provide. Then the country shuts down, and the producing capitalist class will once again come to life and rebuild. In the meantime, be in cash, stockpile the food and ammo and prepare for tough times. The so called messiah will be our downfall, but it won't be forever. I can't wait to see this movie!

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 6:48:29 PM

      Please read a biography sketch.

  • Posted By: DoctorK @ 10/02/2008 5:03:58 PM

    I am always amazed at the way folks try to tell me what WILL happen as a consequence of some occurrence that they find unpalatable. Where did ConservativeWoman come by her crystal ball? While Bushwhack's administration did curtail a lot of freedom by making us fear Islamic extremists, there's still an element that fought their attempts. Even if Obama were to be the demon the right would have us believe he is, Armageddon will not be the result.

    • Posted By: ConservativeWoman @ 10/02/2008 6:21:43 PM

      No crystal ball, just a reference to a rather prescient book by Ayn Rand. He is a socialist and that is a fact. Socialism isn't a particularly successful model although it's a great quick fix as we will all see if the House passes the bailout bill. But yes, as a capitalist, I find the idea of an Obama presidency completely unpalatable, though not hopeless.

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 6:47:28 PM

        Ayn Rand (IPA: /??a??n ??rænd/, February 2 [O.S. January 20] 1905 ??? March 6, 1982), born Alisa Zinov'yevna Rosenbaum (Russian: ?????????? ???????????????????? ??????????????????), was a Russian-born American novelist, philosopher,[1] playwright and screenwriter. She is widely known for her best-selling novels The Fountainhead and Atlas Shrugged, and for developing a philosophical system called Objectivism.

        Rand advocated rational individualism and laissez-faire capitalism, categorically rejecting socialism, altruism, and religion. Her ideas remain both influential and controversial.

        <Loud Buzzer>

      • Posted By: basedrum777 @ 10/02/2008 6:47:01 PM

        What the hell are you talking about? Government oversight is not the same as the government running a business. Government oversight is what is/was needed to avoid the mess that the Senate is trying to fix. If you don't understand the consequences of the "bailout" then its best you not comment. LEave that to the adults here.

  • Posted By: krmason @ 10/02/2008 6:03:44 PM

    Are you f-ing kidding me? Everyone justifies the war with 9/11, but the morons don't realize that 9/11 involved Afghanistan, and the war involves Iraq. Did we forget they're not the same damn thing?

    • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/02/2008 6:45:39 PM

      Attacking and invading Iraq for 9/11 would be the equivalent of attacking and invading Mexico for the attack on Pearl Harbor.

  • Posted By: forte88 @ 10/02/2008 6:44:02 PM

    I was a fan of his work, especially the stuff he did with Jerry Zucker and Jim Abrahams. I respect his right to produce whatever movie he wants, but I think I'll pass on this one. Maybe i'll watch it on cable some day. I'll save my money and watch "W" coming out soon instead. I'm Liberal and proud of it. I can take a joke, but honestly, the trailer didn't even make me giggle a little.

  • Posted By: endsjustifymeansrepublicans @ 10/02/2008 4:08:49 PM

    Just a quick question. Is Zucker of the Jewish faith? Not that there's anything wrong with that but it seems that a few went over to the dark side when it comes to the war in the middle east. I can understand the feelings of the jewish/Isreali people after the comments made by certain middle eastern leaders about Isreal but should that sway us all the more in either direction when it comes to the middle east? I would hate to see a backlash towards Isreal if people feel that going to war with Iraq and the possibility of going to war with Iran was fueled by the jewish americans with influence. I'm just saying.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 6:20:30 PM

      This is the 800# Gorilla in the room. Yes Mr. Zucker and a lot of Conservative Jews are Republicans. Many of them are Neo Cons. Look up AIPAC espionage scandal or Lawrence Franklin Espionage scandal. A minority party in Israel that is pushing the settlements and has used the Bush regime like a puppet is behind some of our problems.
      It is not aboout Jews, but some people who are Jewish. More of them are American Evangelicals. It is not about Christian Faith. (I am a near blind supporter of Israel.)
      If you would like to see who is writing for them, look at Jewish World Review, it is online. They have influenced the thought leaders in a dramatic way. However, Zionism and Judaism are seperate. I read JWR daily. I also read a ton of other sources.
      In the eschatology of evangelicals, Israel needs to build a temple in Jerusalem again for things to come to an end. Evangelicals in political power will use that power as God tells them to. Bush said he only answered to a higher power, then shredded the constitution.
      Get a list of the folks prominent in the Project for the New American Century.
      An Evangelical Christian is more likely to consider their duty as taught to them... or revealed through prayer. They are likely to self-isolate, homeschool, and live a life completely seperate from the rest of society. They call anyone who disagrees with them Satan, Demon, or "Hater" when in fact, it is disagreement, not hate. They have a black and white worldview.
      So do their actual enemies.
      It is not Jews and Christians against Muslims, but extremist Jews and Extremist Christians who with Extremist Muslims that represent the problems. The common thread I hope is extremism. When you hear any of them scream Apostate, Infidel, Appeaser, etc... you'll know who is who.

  • Posted By: avtrinity @ 10/02/2008 5:53:05 PM

    Can you really blame Zucker for switching. He hasn't had a funny movie since white America still loved O.J. So he went for the easy buck. Can you blame him. All he has to do to pass off comedy to the far right is to show liberals tripping over chairs or falling out of hammocks. His laugh factor wore out long ago and freer thinking individuals have no patience for outdated unoriginal hack comedy. And if you don't believe me, watch hot shots and tell me that is funny with a straight face.

  • Posted By: rjones @ 10/02/2008 4:03:31 PM

    One thing about the current administration and Republicans in general is, they believe anyone who disagrees with their policies is anti-American and/or traitors who want to destroy this country - when it's they who are the ones doing the most damage to everything our forefathers have built. And whether they will admit it or not, Michael Moore is NOT the enemy of the USA. He is mealy exercising one of our guaranteed freedoms, that if Washington had it's way, would abolish. And does that sound like 1930's Germany or what?
    If censuring Moore and those who think like him are the main focus of Republican-Conservative beliefs, God help the USA.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 5:38:36 PM

      If I may again, not conservative, but Neo Conservatives. The paleocons I can talk to without them going full Limbaugh and spewing soundbytes. Neo cons are pretty scary. They completely hijacked the party of my father. They ran off any in Reagan's big-tent that had crossed over with the RINO stuff. They changed from a small government-fiscal conservative party into a Theocracy.
      Yesterdays independents are independent again.
      If McCain had avoided the Neo Cons and ran against them again as the 'agents of intolerance' that they are, He would have a nearly insurmountable lead, in a walk-away election. Instead the campaign is all Roved-up. He saw a far left opponent and ran hard right. He is a wild unpredictable guy who is now a stunt machine. He has made Obama not only palatable to me, but now, my choice. (For a little while, now....)
      Had he picked a non-token VP that had a centrist appeal, again, the door was still open. Republicans threw merit out the window years ago. Cronyism and Religious bigotry is a hard sell. Putting Palin anywhere nuclear launch codes with her unstable eschatology as a worldview, is a non-starter. Nuclear War with Russia is ok with Her, Alaska is our Noah's Ark.

  • Posted By: OhSageOne @ 10/02/2008 5:32:02 PM

    Why do people (even some liberals) think Liberals are against the war? we support the war and the troops and want to win it and come home victorious.
    Not that disaster in Iraq - aka Bushs Folly, but the real war in Afghanistan

  • Posted By: dotshock @ 10/02/2008 3:34:14 PM

    Zucker didn't just go over to the Dark Side. He went from sanity to insanity. How does the Right look good these days when they are full of lies, full of theft, full of criticizms, and full of themselves?
    Talk about an A to Z change. Sounds like Z needs to do a reverse and get some respect back. People leaving the Democrats to become Republicans are jumping on the Titanic. A side that should go extinct so we can all be better off, for the ultimate game for the Right is King of the Mountain, but if they can't win, then they won't play and they will sit around, call you names, and blame you for their shortcomings. Doubt I will watch another Zucker production. Not sure that I have even seen anything by him to date. His work can't be spurred by intelligence, so it must all be comedy.

    • Posted By: jp686 @ 10/02/2008 4:32:21 PM

      Do you really feel that the "right" has a monopoly on lying, cheating and stealing? I suspect the history books will not notice any greater of the above during this administration than those in the past

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 5:19:19 PM

        As I seem to recall, human flaws are evenly distributed, regardless of ideology in other respects.

  • Posted By: sickoftherepub @ 10/02/2008 4:20:46 PM

    Sorry, but republicans have been destroying this country for the past 8 years because of their ignorance and arrogance. Most Conservatives have low intellect and are unfit to run this country.

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 5:15:10 PM

      Not conservatives, there are plenty of smart ones. The Neo Con types are generally not intellectually driven. A Conservative you can talk to.

    • Posted By: jp686 @ 10/02/2008 4:26:39 PM

      Your comment appears strangely arrogant. Didn't Bill Clinton have a strong role in pushing banks to offer loans to folks with poor credit, no incomes and little chance of successful home ownership? There's more than enough blame to go around on all sides if you can get by your Bush-bashing mentality.

      • Posted By: wildebeest @ 10/02/2008 4:44:01 PM

        Haven't you noticed that a lot of Dems are completely lacking a sense of irony? They remind me of the Danish cartoon protesters: "For suggesting that Islam is inherently violent, you should be beheaded!"

  • Posted By: OligarchyNot @ 10/02/2008 5:12:32 PM

    Since the discussion here is about possible future scenarious in the U.S., another comedy ou there is "Idiocracy." A present-day soldier and out-of-luck street savy chick both volunteer to be enclosed in a time capsule for what is supposed to be a limited period of time. The government shuts down the program while the 2 volunteers are still in their capsules, and everyone forgets they're even there. The volunteers are awakened when their time capsules get jostled around by one of the many mountains of garbage has an avalanche. They wake up to an America several centuries from now that is the epitome of the Corporate-run government we have, where there are no green spaces, but in their place are giant mountains of trash everywhere you look. Gatoraide runs from the faucets instead of water since the Gatoraide corporation bought out the water corporations -- water is only used to flush toilets and the people gag at the thought of drinking it. The people have been so dumbed down that they try to water what few plants they have with gatoraide, and are headed for disaster because nothing will grow. There is no hard currency, just electronic transactions, and when you've depleted your account, you can't eat. The solder/volunteer who lands there from this time is by far the smartest person on earth, and he saves the day by showing the idiots that plants must have water to survive (although when he proves this, it causes the stock of Gatoraide to drop and many employees to be laid off, who all want to kill him). The U.S. had become a bunch of easily-led sheep who're so totally dependent on the corporate-state that they wouldn't know how to feed themselves or do anything the corporate-state doesn't tell them to do. And the corporate-state keeps them all satisfied by pandering to their basest of instincts -- masterbating, farting and killing "***" (which are any people who try to sound even the least bit smart, including our hero from present day. The corporate-state has kept everyone in a state of ignorant bliss for so long that even they forgot that this was done by design, and fail to see that you have to have a few smart people in order for society to work and the human race to survive. In order words, if you left everything the way it is now with the corporate rule of everything and never tried to regulate it, and never tried to changed the failed policies of bush, et al, then you would end up with something akin to the America reflected in Idiocracy.

  • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 10/02/2008 2:20:52 PM

    they took a poll,asked liberals to chose between being nuked or torturing someone who knows its whereabouts in order to disarm it,the maJority chose being nuked ???? W.T.F.???that pretty much sums up liberals....morons!

    • Posted By: buckeyekarl @ 10/02/2008 3:21:26 PM

      Really fatty? Let me guess, you learned that from Michael Weiner "Savage".

      DId he make the poll up in his head?

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 5:09:31 PM

        It was a 24 episode on Fox. The GOP play tests it's gut issues in the action genre.

    • Posted By: Young Hickory @ 10/02/2008 3:59:31 PM

      You've being watching too much 24 and Fox. Get your head out of your ass! The biggest danger of getting "nuked" is from loose nuclear material in Russia which conservatives have done nothing to secure.

  • Posted By: avtrinity @ 10/02/2008 3:55:42 PM

    yes 9/11 changed everything. it made fools out of moderately intelligent people and fanatics out of week kneed liberals like Zucker and Dennis Miller. Yes we should go through Afghanistan to get to our true enemies in Iraq. By the way I've heard about this guy named Osama Bin Laden and I have it on reliable sources that he had something to do with 9/11. Perhaps someone should tell our administration. I want to thank all of you who voted for the fine president we currently have for he has left us in a truly glorious position. And for all of you who bought into this man's message I have some coastal property to sell dirt cheap in Arizona.

    • Posted By: JoBee20 @ 10/02/2008 3:58:42 PM

      Biggest and most expensive miltary in the world and we can't find one guy?

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 5:04:47 PM

        Being a military guy, no a military is a crummy way to catch someone. It is designed to apply force across various time/space models. Chasing one guy is best done with bounty hunters. Military force creates a footprint that is huge and provides an enemy an assymetrical advantage that becomes the 200 dollar bomb killing the $20,000,000 tank...
        We really had one good chance at Tora Bora to get him but didn't commit our resources to do it. We played Rent-a-Tribe and chose poorly. Osama will likely die in a city in Pakistan, in relative comfort, of old age, in the hands of the ISI. He is as valuable to them as their small stockpile of nukes. Lacking either, Pakistan is irrelevant.

  • Posted By: swen @ 10/02/2008 2:11:50 PM

    i am glad they made this move...michael moore is part of the insane left and is nothing but a propagandist..

    • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 4:18:39 PM

      I am glad they made the movie only because I believe in freedom of speech. I won't spend a dime on it or most any other movie, as I have a lot of cable and a nice place to watch them. I can defer gratification and pay my bills too. (Blue Dog Democrat) My political party has a wide range of people. The party opposite really does not.

      • Posted By: edsmithmidwest @ 10/02/2008 4:29:11 PM

        Arrogant thing to say Mr. Blue Dog Democrat. Both parties have a wide range of people. You are what is wrong with politics. Not being able to see the other point of view. Truly short-sighted and ignorant.

        • Posted By: Braes @ 10/02/2008 4:51:47 PM

          No, the GOP has morphed into a tiny shop of few ideas, name callers, and well... you.
          <Crickets>

  • Posted By: FATJOEY @ 10/02/2008 2:17:28 PM

    Just like all muslims hold all christians responsible for the crusades,i hold islam responsible for 911!!!

    • Posted By: sickoftherepub @ 10/02/2008 4:16:05 PM

      Educate your self. Your ignorance is mind boggling. What the muslims want is us to get out of the middle east. How would you feel if muslims had military bases in canada or mexico??? The us needs to mind it's own business, then your terrorists will leave you alone ! Do you get it?

      • Posted By: wildebeest @ 10/02/2008 4:30:32 PM

        So, just do everything they say & everyone will be happy? Except Israel, I guess.
        You sound like the type of person who'd ignore the screams of a rape victim. "It's none of our business, honey, just keep walking." Nice.

      • Posted By: edsmithmidwest @ 10/02/2008 4:26:58 PM

        This is the most ignoraant post I have read as of yet. Flat out the dumbest statement here. They don't want anyone to not believe in Islam. So isolationism is not the answer. Go ahead and ask a Christian born and raised in Lebanon if this is true. You are not only stupid, your ideas are dangerous.

    • Posted By: jcollet @ 10/02/2008 3:28:14 PM

      FatJoey, Your name sums up your intelect or lack thereof. Who's "They" that took the poll? A reference would have made your idiotic remark more credible.
      As for your other remark, you not only have a clue about politics, you don't know how to spell history (I have to admit you have all the qualifications to be a conservative. Hate the moslems all you won't, but at least use that tiny piece of gray matter that you were given. Guess why the christians were blamed for the
      crusades? Yes, incredibly because the word crusade came from the cross and because it was officially a war between 2 religions.

      • Posted By: wildebeest @ 10/02/2008 4:04:55 PM

        jcollet, you criticize FATJOEY for misspelling "history", in the same post that you misspell "intellect". Maybe you shouldn't be so snippy if you aren't perfect yourself.

  • Posted By: junkmail6 @ 10/02/2008 4:30:06 PM

    I think a liberal-bashing comedy sounds fun. A conservative-bashing movie would have to be more of a slasher-horror flick. How 'bout Dick Cheney starring in "Saw 5"?

  • Posted By: avtrinity @ 10/02/2008 4:27:18 PM

    There's truth in playing the hand your dealt; however, to think of our policy decisions in as simple terms as playing cards, you don't hit on 17. Yes you may find yourself in a bad situation not of your doing, but to go forth and make it worse is all on you. That's what makes Bush a bust!

  • Posted By: jcollet @ 10/02/2008 3:08:23 PM

    Why Newsweek would allow some idiotic and dangerous accusations by people like Lee Holmes without checking the facts is beyond me. Why do bitter people have to connect everything under the sun to one candidate or the other? This is about a movie making fun of a fat guy, so what? Laugh with it or don't watch it.
    However, Zucker's closing remark beggs the question: Are "they" only trying to kill conservatives? He had to switch parties to realize that the terrorists are trying to kill All westerners? I'm sure he's safer now that he's a republican since the terrorists ask you about your affiliation before they blow you up....

    • Posted By: wildebeest @ 10/02/2008 4:17:08 PM

      And your rant about terrorists not distinguishing between right & left is just being deliberately obtuse. Or, maybe not deliberately, considering some of your other efforts here. It's not that being a liberal makes you any less a target, it's that the pathetic liberal response makes all of us more likely to be targets on an ongoing basis.
      By the way, another spelling mistake in your post here, Mr. Perfect.

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