Palin Reignites The Culture War

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  • Posted By: Miss_Miss @ 10/05/2008 1:20:39 AM

    Obama is the only candidate that has a vision that will bring the US out of the sorry state that the Bush campaign has left it in. What Obama does for health care, taxes, the wars, and the elevation of the US on the world scene is by far anything that McCain offers. McCain sinks so low while he allows Palin slanders the reputaion of a professor of education at the University of Chicago. Why is it that the people that are the least forgiving are the ones who TALK the most about their religion? One must wonder why someone can't let go of the actions of Ayers, where he has obviously accomplished so much since he was a rebellious student. No one is calling McCain a rebel, except himself, when he admits to the wild things that he did as a young man. It just really seems disingenuous

  • Posted By: Krohn @ 10/05/2008 1:11:42 AM

    This is one of the few Democrats that I am proud of!:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZR5ekEuGyvk

  • Posted By: skyride @ 10/05/2008 12:01:37 AM

    "culture war"? Race war, class warfare, war on this or that, as the late George Carlin would say "we are warlike people, even in domestic politics we always talk about war: war on drugs, war on poverty, .."
    So, let's leave the war terminology aside and talk about Palin (and Biden, and Hillary before that) appealing to people that she thinks they would connect with her. Is there anything wrong with that?

  • Posted By: izme @ 10/04/2008 11:30:35 PM

    Read this

    http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/09/update-fannie-mae-and-freddie.html

  • Posted By: MisterO @ 10/04/2008 11:27:54 PM

    Sarah Palin is the new George W. Bush, incompetent, incoherent, rambling, intellectually-challenged, and "folksy."
    She's the one that "you would like to drink a beer with."
    All of these things are not "fresh and new" after a W. administration. She may be a "Washington Outsider," but so was George W. Bush, and we can clearly see what that has wrought on the American People! John McCain is Dick Cheney, and the attempt with the McCain Palin ticket is to inflict another 12 years of pain and treason upon the American people just like the last 8 painful years from a Treasonous Administration.
    I take Treason seriously, and I don't see where outing our CIA assets and systemically diminishing our Economic strength as a nation is something that we need to continue or allow in our "leadership."
    George W. Bush did more damage to the USA over the last 8 years than Osama Bin Laden could have ever dreamed he could do. We ABSOLUTELY do not need another George W. Bush in the female form of Sarah Palin to finish us off better than a terrorist could!

  • Posted By: MisterO @ 10/04/2008 11:27:29 PM

    Sarah Palin is the new George W. Bush, incompetent, incoherent, rambling, intellectually-challenged, and "folksy."
    She's the one that "you would like to drink a beer with."
    All of these things are not "fresh and new" after a W. administration. She may be a "Washington Outsider," but so was George W. Bush, and we can clearly see what that has wrought on the American People! John McCain is Dick Cheney, and the attempt with the McCain Palin ticket is to inflict another 12 years of pain and treason upon the American people just like the last 8 painful years from a Treasonous Administration.
    I take Treason seriously, and I don't see where outing our CIA assets and systemically diminishing our Economic strength as a nation is something that we need to continue or allow in our "leadership."
    George W. Bush did more damage to the USA over the last 8 years than Osama Bin Laden could have ever dreamed he could do. We ABSOLUTELY do not need another George W. Bush in the female form of Sarah Palin to finish us off better than a terrorist could!

  • Posted By: 25pmg @ 10/04/2008 11:12:00 PM

    joesixxpack58 wrote: I don't understand the people who would even consider placing the trust and security of this great Nation in the hands of a person who cannot think quickly enough on her feet to answer questions that you, i and every "Joe Six Pack" can answer like a game show contestant.
    joesixxpack58, I don???t understand how the people, like you, can even consider placing the trust and security of this great Nation in the hands of a, respectfully, dingbat senator who thinks quickly enough to lie and make sh%t up but isn???t smart enough to know that his stories/lies are easily fact checked. How about the whopper that President FDR went on TV to calm the public in the 1929 stock market crash? Of course you joesixxpack58 are smart enough to know that Hoover was President in 1929 and that TV was not commercially available until about 1939. Or Sen. Biden???s story/lie about his recently going to a local restaurant in Delaware??? but in fact it???s been out of business for more than a decade!!! Or his line in the Debate about how the US and French kicked Hezbollah out of Lebanon?? It never happened. Biden made it up. He LIED. Then Mr. Biden lies to the American people with a straight face that his comment about he and Obama???s not supporting Clean Coal Plants in the US was taken out of context. I am sure joesixxpack58 you have a computer. Go to YouTube and watch Biden in Biden???s own words. You???ll see he is lying again. His comments were totally taken in context.
    But no. This is the kind of person you prefer to be a heart-beat away from the Presidency. Just be honest. You are an ideologue. You don???t really give a hoot about experience. If you did, you couldn???t possibly support Obama. No disrespect intended.

  • Posted By: joesixxpack58 @ 10/04/2008 10:41:53 PM

    I think I saw just about enough of the great Sarah Palin and quite honestly I don't understand the people who would even consider placing the trust and security of this great Nation in the hands of a person who cannot think quickly enough on her feet to answer questions that you, i and every "Joe Six Pack" can answer like a game show contestant. At the debate it was like watching someone coming to a basketball game with a hockey stick. She spent more time dodging specifics and flat out said she wasn't going to answer the questions asked. Then everyone still says she did great.......Why? Because she didn't mess up. I only wish I was judged by the same standards in the real game we all call LIFE?

    • Posted By: AverageJoe61 @ 10/04/2008 11:01:11 PM

      In my experience, it would be unusual for a politician to give a direct answer to anything, If you were to take of those blue glasses your wearing, you would see that she is really no different that the others with the exception of less time on the national stage. She seems to be picking it up fast though.

  • Posted By: gluchnurse @ 10/04/2008 10:52:04 PM

    My Mom always said the use of profanity was a cover by those who couldn't admit that they didn't have a enough words in their vocabulary to carry on an intelligent conversation. So running a smear campaign against someone's character, to make people afraid or distrustful, would be the political equivalent. When, like McCain, you have nothing positive to offer in the way of new ideas, when you are so out of touch after years of being a pampered admiral's son and married to an heiress, then you resort to the smear to cover the desperate desire to be elected which leaves you willing to do any unethical thing to win. Anyone who does this does NOT have his country first. And I think it has been a good many years since John McCain put ANYONE first beyond himself. And Sarah Palin? Her ambition has blinded her to her lack of preparedness, the fact that her family is in disarray, and to her own hypocrisy and self righteousness. As a member of a non-Christian group, she would cause me to be frightened were her brand of rigid ideology in the White House because she doesn't really get the separation of church and state-and seeks to bring her brand of religious extremism into all our lives via the Supreme Court, expansion of the role of V.P. beyond that mandated by the Constitution, etc. She may be a nice person to have lunch with, but she is way to scary, inexperienced, and uneducated to be next in line to the Presidency!

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/04/2008 10:49:17 PM



    Sarah Palin is a fraud. She was pregnant before she got married, has had an affair with one of her husband's friends, her 19 year old son is rumored to have serious drug problems, her 17 year old unwed daughter is pregnant, and she has used her political power to get even with people who disagree with her, yet all she talks about is being a "good Christian" and doing God's will. As a Christian she is a hypocrite who can not walk her talk, and as a politician she is completely unqualified to be Vice President. Her interview with Katie Couric showed her to be a woman with a disorganzied mind, a woman who is in over her head, utterly unprepared for the twist her fate has taken.

    Even committed Republicans who support McCain have to ask themselves if they really would take the risk of putting our country into Palin's hands. Sure, being VP doesn't necessarily take a lot of skills, but being President requires great intelligence and a clear-eyed world view, one untainted by religious fanaticism. Look at the mess we got with the under-qualified Dubya, and even he seems smarter and less fanatical than Palin. McCain is 72 years old, with high cholesterol and high blood pressure; his father and grandfather each died of heart attacks at age 72. McCain's Vice President HAS to be ready to lead. And by lead, I am not referring to a full speed charge into Armageddon.

    For those of you who don't know, Palin belongs to a fundamentalist church that believes the end of the world is near: that war, financial distress and famine will kill off the sinful non-believers, and that when this holocaust occurs all good Christians will be taking refuge in Alaska. Furthermore, her church conducts witch hunts -- they actually use prayer to locate "witches" in their community, then publicly brand them as witches, and hold them responsible for everything that goes wrong in town. (Honestly, I think the long winters must be getting to their minds.) You can go on YouTube and watch videos of Palin participating during sermons like this. She stands on the altar facing the members. The congregation stands with outstretched hands, trancelike, speaking in tounges while the priest prays to "keep Sarah safe from all forms of witchcraft."

    Could you REALLY feel comfortable knowing that a woman who holds these beliefs would have the power to declare war and deploy nuclear missiles?

  • Posted By: oharris30 @ 10/04/2008 8:49:32 PM

    Eleanor Clift must be dumb as Sarah Palin. Anybody can remember a script. She came across looking like a slut everytime she winked her eye. I never trust anybody who winks at me. Just trying to call you a fool. Well I am happy that most of us Americans are not fools. It is disgraceful how John McCain is using her to do his dirty work. And to think now that he has her trying to tie Senator Obama with terrorist. If that were true, I do believe it would have been proven long ago. Such low lifes, Mc Cain and Palin. Hucklebee would have been a better choice atleast he has the sense to know that if you try to demonize Senator Obama, it will turn against you as I am sure McCain will find out soon.

    • Posted By: ObamaLies @ 10/04/2008 10:48:48 PM

      Newsflash, it HAS been proven long ago, but the Obama campaign tries to downplay it and many in the MSM go right along with it. The truthtellers in the MSM have been on the Ayers (terrorist) story since Feb. They have been linked closely together since Obama's college days (back then he was also just a guy in Obama's neighborhood in NYC too. Now, why oh why is he living down the street from Obama AGAIN many years later in Chicago?)

  • Posted By: iambeth @ 10/04/2008 10:47:20 PM

    Palin is not every woman. She does not represent all women. Many of us work hard, educate ourselves about issues that are important, answer questions when they are posed, and refrain from looking uneducated and uninformed by using the same, worn out folksy phrases that Palin does. I resent the fact that McCain chose this woman as his VP. It appears that he did so thinking that women would vote for him because a woman is his running mate. That's insulting to me and many other women. I cannot support Palin's holier than thou attitude. Her voice is annoying and that's mainly because she has nothing worth saying so she rambles incoherently. In my opinion, Palin is a nightmare for our country. And to think that she could be a heart beat away from becoming President makes me shudder. The fact that she said in the debate that the Constitution will give her more power as VP proves that she is uninformed, power hungry, and uneducated in what the Constitution says. I don't think she has ever read the Articles of the Constitution.

  • Posted By: 25pmg @ 10/04/2008 10:35:51 PM

    Are you joking Ms. Clift? With all due respect, you ceased being an objective observer and became an active partisan participant a long long time ago. You insights are worth absolutely nothing because of your dishonestly.
    You say Palin was short on FACTS? Ok. She could have done better. But how about Biden making up the 'FACTS' as he goes along. Like his going to a local restaurant in Delaware that's been closed for decade!!! Or his line about
    The US and French kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon?? When the heck did that happen? Do you know? Unless Biden just released classified information not available to the public (in which case he isn't fit to be vice president) he just made it up. He compounded his lie by saying Obama and he urge that UN troops go into Lebanon to keep Hezbollah out?? Do you know what the heck he's talking about Ms. Clift? Then Mr. Biden lies to the American people with a straight face that his comment about he and Obama???s not supporting Clean Coal Plants in the US was taken out of context. Talk about being out of touch with reality, anyone with a computer can see exactly what Mr. Biden said and know he is lying. Doesn???t Mr. Biden understand how technology works? Ms. Clift, I suggest it is you who are the one hung up on the culture wars. You are so hung up that you're willing to write any trash necessary about Palin and McCain and overlook any blunders or shortcomings of Biden and Obama in your effort to get the Democratic ticket elected. Shame on YOU!!

  • Posted By: 25pmg @ 10/04/2008 10:35:25 PM

    Are you joking Ms. Clift? With all due respect, you ceased being an objective observer and became an active partisan participant a long long time ago. You insights are worth absolutely nothing because of your dishonestly.
    You say Palin was short on FACTS? Ok. She could have done better. But how about Biden making up the 'FACTS' as he goes along. Like his claiming he went to a local restaurant in Delaware that has in fact been closed for decade!!! Or his line about
    the US and French kicking Hezbollah out of Lebanon?? When the heck did that happen? Do you know Ms. Clift? Unless Biden just released classified secret information not available to the public (in which case he isn't fit to be vice president) he just made it up. He compounded his lie by saying Obama and he urge that UN troops go into Lebanon to keep Hezbollah out?? Do you know what the heck he's talking about Ms. Clift? Then Mr. Biden lies to the American people with a straight face that his comment about he and Obama???s not supporting Clean Coal Plants in the US was taken out of context. Talk about being out of touch with reality, anyone with a computer can see exactly what Mr. Biden said and know he is lying. Doesn???t Mr. Biden understand how technology works - it's easy to see on line that he's a liar. Ms. Clift, I suggest it is you who are the one hung up on the culture wars. You are so hung up that you're willing to write any trash necessary about Palin and McCain to diminish them and overlook major blunders, lies and shortcomings of Biden and Obama in your effort to get the Democratic ticket elected. Shame on YOU!!

  • Posted By: Legalese @ 10/04/2008 10:01:51 PM

    Well I guarantee you she wasn't acting the Everywoman in San Antonio-we were so disappointed because we drove 100 miles to see her (she was attending a fundraiser in San Antonio) and we thought we would at least have a chance to greet her or have her acknowledge us-she didn't and we were a group of women! Either they didn't let her because they were afraid she would say something and would have to retract it or she didn't want to-anyhow, we found out later that the dinner wasn't worth the 1,000 people paid to get in to see her-because she wasn't allowed to visit with them either! I guess Sarah and her team didn't think our little group of women are important to her-so be it however, there were plenty of us that decided that afternoon we would send a message to her and McCain come voting time. McCain and Palin a message for you from the women waiting in the hot sun to see Sarah Palin-"Fool me once shame on you fool me twice shame on you..."

  • Posted By: walden333 @ 10/04/2008 10:01:23 PM

    Alaskans rallied for Obama this weekend, pics here: http://laurainak.blogspot.com

  • Posted By: philw @ 10/04/2008 6:49:21 PM

    When did elite become a bad word. It means you are better at your task than others. I would think
    thats an attribute we would want in a president.. I would hope people would choose the intellectual
    elite over the intellectual inferior.

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/04/2008 9:40:20 PM


      Thank you, Phil. If I'm ever in need of rescuing I'd want Elite Forces to do the job. If I ever need heart surgery, I'd want an elite surgeon to do it. If I put my investments with a broker, I want the most elite person available to handle them. So, shouldn't we want the same in a president? Excellent point.

  • Posted By: 212Max @ 10/04/2008 6:55:09 PM

    I prefer my six-pack friends to be authentic. Poor Sarah owns her own private plane and five residences. She's all into God, but couldn't make it to a church to get married--it was easier at a courthouse. She's a complete hypocrite.

    • Posted By: akron61537 @ 10/04/2008 8:17:39 PM

      You haven't seen a hypocrite until you see the work Obama is going to do on this country. Since the excesses of Watergate, politics in America has been cleaned up due to work of good government groups like Common Cause. Obama is a Chicago politician and will extend his, Dodd's and Frank's corruption through the government. America will become like Detroit.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/04/2008 9:37:08 PM


        And yet somehow, after 12 years in elected office, after the Clinton campaign and then the McCain campaign vetted his record for ANY scrap they could use against him there doesn't seem to be much they can use against him, so they are relying on making stuff up! They are linking him to Governor Blagojevich when him and Obama never worked together, or to Freddie Mac's president when he was NEVER involved with the campaign.

  • Posted By: butterfly1020 @ 10/04/2008 4:40:33 PM

    First, polls mean nothing. Elitist is more than how much money you have, it's an attitude, and Barack Obama is an elitist snob. No matter how much he tries to look and act like a "brotha", it ain't happening. They all know he's not that anyway...
    As for Sarah Palin, she ROCKS.

    • Posted By: Shhhhhh @ 10/04/2008 9:25:06 PM

      Please don't get on here and try and speak for "they". Matter of fact "they" are voting for him in record numbers this electioin year. He is very much a "brotha", a husband, a father and a brillliant politician who will be the next president of the United States. I think that "you" need to start getting used to it.

    • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/04/2008 8:22:19 PM


      This is funny, polls only mean nothing when the other guy is winning! Give me a break.

      By the way, most young people, who favor Obama strongly are cell-phone carriers and NOT getting polled right now - polling agencies poll land lines, not cell phones. Obama's lead is actually bigger than what you see in the polls.

  • Posted By: sirhc @ 10/04/2008 6:19:11 PM

    SHE ONLY REINFORCED THE FACT THAT SHE IS CLUELESS. SURE SHE MADE HAVE EXCEEDED EXPECTATIONS FOR THE FACT SHE DIDN'T DROOL BUT THE FACT THAT SHE OPENLY REFUSED TO ANSWER A MODERATOR'S QUESTION (WHO BY THE WAY WAS BEING SUPER SOFT WITH HER) WOULD GET YOU KICKED OFF A HIGH SCHOOL DEBATE TEAM. SHE IS LIKE A VERY BAD JOKE WITH POSIBLE EXTREME DIRE CONSEQUENCES IF TAKEN SERIOUSLY......................ON ANOTHER NOTE.....

    ISN'T IT HILARIOUS TO HEAR ALL THE REPUBLICANS LIKE HANNITY, O'REILLY AND RUSH SCREAM PALIN WON THE DEBATE BUT NOT ONE-NOT ONE POLL SHOWS SHE CAME CLOSE TO WINNING? THEY ARE AS DELUSIONAL AS THEIR LEADER BUSH. FOX'S OWN POLL HAD BIDEN WINNING 63% TO 37%. JUST PATHETIC.

    • Posted By: Shhhhhh @ 10/04/2008 9:13:55 PM

      Shhhh!!! You're being sexist! Just because she dodges questions by refusing to answer them doesn't mean she didn't win! Just because she can only talk about Alaska and oil doesn't mean she didn't win! Just because she failed repeatedly to counter any of Biden's attacks against McCaiin doesn't mean she didn't win! I mean how can you be so blind? She winked at the camera 4 times, that alone won it. And how can u not say that her folksie charm didn't win over america? You dirty liberals are just trying to bring her down with silly things like backing up your talking points with facts! Of course she won!

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