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The Titanic’s Last Secret

All along, the shipbuilders knew the hull was weak.

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  • Posted By: dlucksta @ 01/17/2009 2:16:20 PM

    The person below me is not an expert just because he is the grandson of one of the builders, he is just as misinformed as the rest of us especially since his grandfather was a builder, it would be in the best interest of the Harland & Wolff to keep as many people in the dark as possible including his grandfather and as far as I'm concerned unless his grandfather was an engineer, he wouldn't have known any better, as is commonly said in forensics "The evidence doesn't lie, people do"..

    It was a plain and simple example of corporate greed lay way for corners to be cut and ultimately the loss of 1,500 plus lives, all for the sake of making a buck. Now days that kind of business practice would lead to hundreds of civil lawsuits and the possible demise of a company, you just don't cut corners when people's lives are at stake. PERIOD, NO EXCUSES.

  • Posted By: James Carlisle @ 10/13/2008 7:50:49 AM

    All this is taken out of context again. Harland & Wolff followed the recommendations of the Mersey inquiry following the sinking of Titanic that the double hull should be raised higher. This was done on Britannic and an inner shell was fitted to Olympic. To say that this was known to Harland & Wolff is a load of nonsense!

    I believe that Tommie McCluskie has been misreported this time. There has been some talk about the hull but just about two years ago a firm of Engineering experts calculated the hull to be more than strong enough and as for the rivets, well testing 48 rivets out of 3,085,000 and not knowing where there came from on the ship is still being claimed to be of sub standard class. One uses a lower specification than others depending where there are to be installed.

    Grandson of one of the builders.

    J.Carlisle

  • Posted By: sharief_abdullah@yahoo.com @ 10/13/2008 6:18:02 AM

    DEAR FRIENDS , TITANIC a great ship which gained popularity and won the hearts of millions and considered as the pride of the ocean has sank in its first trip to AMERICA. Really its a big tragedy in the marine history and no one can forget her memories which is still in between us by means of movies, novel etc.,

  • Posted By: srr510 @ 10/12/2008 8:14:58 AM

    Corporate greed really sank the Titanic. The White Star Line and Harland and Wolff played fast and loose with the Titanic to get her into ser vice as fast as possible. So they cut corners and, welll, the rest is history.

  • Posted By: s.kevin @ 10/08/2008 10:31:04 AM

    what i want to say is .......tragedy!!!

  • Posted By: jbond92311 @ 10/07/2008 7:35:11 PM

    Yes, I have little doubt that weak construction played a major role in the sinking. Other factors included speeding at full steam through an ice field at night. Current practice of the time was to come to a dead stop at night through ice fields. Also, limited amount of life boats. In addition, the type of steel used became very brittle in icy water.

    • Posted By: jbond92311 @ 10/07/2008 8:24:43 PM

      Safety and good judgement should rule the day.

  • Posted By: nmbrldy69 @ 10/07/2008 1:12:05 PM

    Pezled - instead of spouting off Republican-style about someone else's post, why don't you work on grammar, punctuation & basic sentence structure? The stronger the words, the weaker the arguments.

  • Posted By: nmbrldy69 @ 10/07/2008 1:08:11 PM

    I'm with you 100%, cani77. One week, McCain & Bush see the economy as stable, with no problems or any issues. The next week, they're in crisis mode, with McCain making the "sacrifice" (thank you for saving us briefly) of suspending his campaign to "concentrate on the economic problems we're facing." I do not want a wealthy old man, who can't keep track of his home, cars or wife's income, making any kind of policy, financial or not, for me. If he dies of old age in office, lipstick Barbie would take over. On the other hand, if she did, she'd probably bill all the citizens for her family's expenditures, even though they wouldn't actually do anything for that benefit. Republicans - stop the smear campaign & schoolyard bully routines, and simply state what actions you would take to resolve the economic and housing crisis the U.S. is facing. I don't want to hear about a $5,000 tax "credit". If a person knows anything about credits or taxes, they know that not everyone gets these credits, in whole or in part, and they won't normally cover the cost of actual health insurance, which, for me, would top $8K per year (healthy non-smoking single female). I want a solid plan, with the complete facts to back it up, or just shut the cake-hole and roll on.

  • Posted By: pezled @ 10/07/2008 12:04:28 PM

    TAKE YOUR POLITICAL BULL CRAP TO A POLITICAL ARTICLE. GEEZ. i'M NOT READING YOUR BORING POST. GET A LIFE AND QUIT WASTING MY TIME . WELL I GUESS YOU GOT NOTHING BETTER TO DO THAN WASTE YOUR OWN TIME.

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/06/2008 5:05:39 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide the largest morgage bank in the world,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch which are 3 out of the top 5 wall street firms. Also, Fanny and Freddy Mae which hold 50 percent of the home loans in the United States.
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt.If they didn't the entire financially system would virtually shut down, the stock market would crash and we would suffer beyond what any of us have seen before.

    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.

    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He either didn't care or didn't realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime.
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a tanking economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?



    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time
    running the biggest smear campaign in history.



    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview it will blow you away
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: Tabi @ 10/05/2008 8:58:03 AM

    The last bit reminds me of two-by-fours.

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