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Why fewer Americans are adopting children overseas.

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  • Posted By: bibbo @ 03/08/2009 10:20:09 AM

    Orphans are probably the least powereful group of individuals that are at the same time the most deserving. How can anyone play politics with them? I think the only group less powerful are the babies who have been aborted. In time the truth of this will be made known

  • Posted By: GGrech555 @ 02/24/2009 9:06:34 PM

    Adopt American Children First??? We are not talking about cars, food, material goods or anything else... except children. Orphaned children need families no matter where they are from. Obviously you have never been to an orphanage in a foreign country. It is incredibly sad. To say "Adopt American Children First" is one of the most ignorant and unfeeling statements I have ever heard. I have adopted my daughter from Russia and am extremely proud of her. She has overcome rickets, low weight, and understimulation to become one of the best students in her Kindergarten class. For her to stay in Russia probably meant almost certain death. America on the other hand, is very lucky to have her. Her enthusiam of life is an inspiration for us all. Wake up and please think before you compare children to cars, food, and material goods. The amount of available orphans in America is a pittance compared to the orphans in many countries around the world. This is not in anyway to diminish their plight, but just a add a little awareness and understanding.

  • Posted By: joymask @ 11/22/2008 9:05:37 AM

    Adopt American Children First....the problems we face in the country are because we love people from other countries more than we love our own people and products...children, cars, workers, food, material goods. When are we going to wake-up? The United States of America should be considered first, there are children here that need to be adopted, American children.

  • Posted By: Kolibri @ 11/12/2008 3:33:10 PM

    It's just stupid that adoption is so expensive! Some people just want to give an orphan a loving home and family but can't because they don't have thousands of extra dollars stored away. I mean, honestly...it just goes to show how LITTLE businesses care about real people and real lives.
    I visited an orphanage in Jamaica once. I was just 4 years old but I will never forget how sad it was.

  • Posted By: krohn2 @ 10/22/2008 5:02:07 PM

    FactCheck.Org is owned by the Annenberg group of Chicago! Talk about a conflict of interest! And Obama has been telling people on the trail to check out the site to verify his opponents claims. Funny, every time that he endorsed something, it turns out to be a part of his spin machine! Like he raised objections in the primaries when Indiana required photo I.D. to vote. He Protested that It took away people's right to vote! I
    knew then and there that he was up to no good! America, wake up from the MASS HYPNOSIS!
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWTs1YyhFRg&feature=related

  • Posted By: krohn2 @ 10/21/2008 12:19:54 AM

    This is so true about how the election is already bought and paid for:
    http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/what-is-it-that-barack-obama-knows-that-the-rest-of-us-don%E2%80%99t/#comment-1929

  • Posted By: krohn2 @ 10/20/2008 8:50:22 PM

    Obama, the excuses are wearing thin. what excuse do you have for this one?:
    http://www.againstobama.com/2008/10/obama-praised-searing-and-timely-book-by-ayers/

  • Posted By: haynessemperfi @ 10/18/2008 2:07:27 AM

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    ALL SIX of the Presidential candidates who appear on enough state ballots to acquire the 270 Electoral Votes needed to become President are invited. They are as follows (listed in alphabetical order by affiliation):

    Constitution Party Candidate: Chuck Baldwin
    Democratic Party Candidate: Barack Obama
    Green Party Candidate: Cynthia McKinney
    Independent Candidate: Ralph Nader
    Libertarian Party Candidate: Bob Barr
    Republican Party Can John McCain

    The Columbia Political Union will present the debate from 8:00pm to 10:00pm in the Altschul Auditorium, located at 417 International Affairs Building. The debate will be moderated by Pacifica Radio's Amy Goodman, the host of "Democracy Now!". CSPAN will cover the debate, and live radio broadcasts are expected.

    "The Columbia Political Union is committed to energizing political discourse on Columbia's campus," said Allon Brann, Columbia Political Union Publisher. "As a non-partisan organization, we work to provide students with opportunities to encounter and engage with political ideas across a wide ideological spectrum, and on a wide range of issues."

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  • Posted By: masue @ 10/16/2008 8:56:47 PM

    In 1966, my husband and I adopted a 17 day old baby girl. The total cost for this adoption was about $1300.00, in 1971 was adopted a 3 day old son. The total cost for that adoption was about $1500.00. Both our babies came from Texas. Today, if you are middle class and want to adopt, it in unreal the price.
    masue

  • Posted By: loveachild @ 10/15/2008 12:35:12 AM

    Wow I simply cannot believe the ignorance of some people. I have a beautiful 5 year old Chinese daughter. She spent the first 14 months of her life in a dirty overcrowded orphanage. She was malnourished because they fed her broth that they had boiled fish heads in and an occasional watered down formula. She could not crawl, or use her lower body for anything because all she did was lay in a crib and cry. After she cried and cried she would just give up knowing that no one was coming. Her head in back is totally flat from laying constantly. She did not know what a toy was she had obviously never seen one. She was bathed occasionaly in a concrete trough like a pig. Her clothes were moldy and filthy when she came to us. Maybe if some of you had lived like this you would see things differn'tly. It does not matter where a child comes from. They all need food and shelter and love. We had tried to foster to adopt for about 2 years and nothing. Not everyone lives in an area with many children available and most agencies do not send children to far away homes. And, there are terrible cases of domestic adoption. You spend 7 months paying for a pregnant mothers bills and going to appointments with her and loving this baby she has promised you. One day she gives birth and decides she is keeping the baby. Now you are out the baby and the money you borrowed to pay the bills. (This happened to close friends of ours) So how dare you people judge an innocent child that is given a decent chance to live. And, for those of you talking about mis information and illegal adoptions; you need to investigate an agency before choosing one. Ours was wonderful and gave us tons of information.
    Bless anyone who adopts a child no matter where they are from. By the way we are going to attempt foster to adopt again. We do not care where are children come from or what they look like. We are all Gods people..

  • Posted By: jbetten330 @ 10/09/2008 10:59:43 AM

    As a parent of two wonderful children, one biological and one adopted from China I must chime in and say a majority of you people here don't know a darn thing about what you are talking about with regards to international adoptions and the issues that face perspective parents. Yes, it is expensive to adopt internationally (who gives a crap about the money anyways). Yes, children in our Foster care system can be adopted for little or no money (who gives a crap about the money anyways). Yes, some countries are less than forthright about their processes and motives. Yes, children here in the US can come with too many strings attached (read parental rights) that can cause major heartaches later and some (like my wife and I) didn't want the risk of said heartache later when the birth parents get their lives back together and want their kid back. The family court system is definitely dedicated to re-uniting families and not necessarily what is in the best interest of the child's future. Much of the personal experience with adoption is based upon the agency you use and how much time you put into the research of the process yourself. We were quite satisfied with our experience right along with the 14 other families that travelled with us to meet our children. While we were there we were treated with respect by everyone involved, even people on the street greeted us with kindness as they understood what we were doing. About all I can add is that after going through all the home studies and social worker visits, it occurred to me that if everyone had to go through this process to pro-create naturally, we'd have a lot less abandoned or abused children here at home.

    • Posted By: Fostertoadopt @ 10/10/2008 5:09:11 PM

      You are just as misinformed about domestic adoptions as those you accuse of being misinformed about international adoptions.

      As to "who gives a crap about the money anyways"... everyone does. Friends of mine who adopted internationally certainly wish they could have spent the $10000+ they had to put up for each child on their children. They wish, in this market, that they weren't at risk of losing their home because they had to get a second mortgage to raise the cash. That said, I don't think for one moment that they did the wrong thing. Their children are adorable and they have a wonderful family.

      We also have a wonderful family, and for those folks who cannot or will not in good conscience go deep into debt to adopt, there IS another way.

    • Posted By: mandh @ 10/09/2008 12:04:31 PM

      Jbetten330
      As the parent of child through domestic adoption, I want to make clear some statements you made are absolutely wrong. Once an adoption is finalized - typically within a year - there is no court that will reunite a child with a birth parent / family (unless, of course, fraud was involved). Furthermore, in the case where the birth parent(s) terminate their parental rights - in some states no less than 72 hours after the child is born - and the birth parent changes her / his mind - the courts still look out for the best interest of the child.
      Yes - there is heartache - but we considered it our labor pains. There is the possibility of a birth parent changing their mind once the child is born. It's ok - it's their child and not the child you were meant to become a parent to. But, if you want to be a parent, stick with it, your child will come, as did ours. And there is no better gift than being a parent.

  • Posted By: Fostertoadopt @ 10/09/2008 6:29:06 AM

    There are plenty of children here in the US that are available for adoption where parental rights have been terminated. My two sons are examples. They were born in the county where we live and had been in foster care for two years. Because we were willing to adopt children who were 3-4 years old instead of an infant, it only took about a year from the time we entered the foster/adopt program until the adoption was complete. It cost us -- literally -- nothing. Not one penny. We didn't go through a private agency, we didn't have to pay for anyone's medical bills, we didn't have to hire our own attorney; the state paid for everything and, in fact, still pays us a monthly subsidy because they are considered "special needs" children (they were a sibling group). They also still pay 100% for their medical needs. It has been two years since and we could not be happier. I would never criticize anyone for adopting overseas, but I also wish people knew more about domestic adoption besides the horror stories. These children need homes, and they are America's responsibility, one way or another.

    • Posted By: cdksiberia @ 10/09/2008 10:51:46 AM

      don't be brokenhearted if the child's biological mother gets her act together and wants the child back. In the US, the courts favor the biological mother/father 95% of the time. I pray this won't happen to you, but it can. I adopted my son from Russia 4 years ago and can rest knowing he's mine forever.

      • Posted By: mandh @ 10/09/2008 12:23:31 PM

        You are incorrect. Once the parental rights have been terminated and adoption is finalized that's it. Fostertoadopt is a family - regardless of whether the birthparent "gets her act together." Fostertoadopt is the legal parent and the birh certificate says so.

        • Posted By: Fostertoadopt @ 10/10/2008 4:53:32 PM

          mandh is correct. It is, unfortunately, the kind of misinformation that folks like you, cdksiberia, are spreading that keeps children like mine from finding homes.

  • Posted By: KKMom @ 10/09/2008 4:18:01 PM

    Having adopted two children from Eastern Europe, I encourage all of you to look into Reactive Attachment Disorder. In no way am I endorsing NOT adopting, all I ask is that you go into the adoption with all the knowledge that you possible accumulate. This is not something the adoption agency discloses to you, nor is it something the host countries inform you about. It is heartbreaking not only for the parents of children who suffer from this mental disability but for the children themselves. This is not just an international adoption problem but also a domestic problem. As stretched as the mental health community is, these children are often misdiagnosed and do not get the help they so terribly need in the timely matter they need. PLEASE read about Attachment Disorder BEFORE you adopt.

  • Posted By: BillsCatz @ 10/09/2008 4:39:13 AM

    I've never quite understood why people bothered to adopt overseas anyhow, given the facts there are thousands of kids in the US who need good homes. However, over the years I've come to realize that, like many other aspects of American life, formal adoption has become such an idiotic bureaucracy that most people find it simpler to pay thousands to fly to Bejing and Hong Kong to adopt a child not of thier race. This is a twisted system. It creates a baby-selling market in overpopulated countries, as well taking children away from their own culture and forcing them into an odd lifestlye. It's not right. It smacks of a needy greed on the part of the adoptive parents to drag a child away from his own culture and heritage to satisy urge need to play mommy or daddy. It's time to streamline the American adoption system and dump the baby brokers. time to make it possible for sane, employed adults to raise our own children right here.

    • Posted By: Mama2One @ 10/09/2008 3:39:09 PM

      It is AMAZING to read your comments!!! I looked into adopting from the system in NJ. I am a single professional woman, and was told basically.... I would be last on the list, and with no guarentee of being able to adopt. I started the process of fostercare training/certification classes, and was repeatedly told that it would be a VERY LONG TIME before I would be able to adopt through the system! After being told this repeatedly, I decided to look into international adoption. I decided to adopt an "Older" child from Russia. The statistics of the older children in Russia are just horrid. When I brought my DD home forever, she was over 8 years old, and weighed 34 pounds! YES, I said 34 pounds! She was severely neglected, and malnourished, among other things. So, it was not that I was looking for a perfect child, or a baby, etc.

      There are MANY reasons that people make the decisions that they do.... wether it be to foster, adopt domestically or internationally. Try NOT to make blanket statements about something that unless you HAVE LIVED, can you truely know......

  • Posted By: BeThoughtful @ 10/09/2008 3:01:55 PM

    There have been many comments on why people don't choose to adopt domestically. I would suggest that some of you actually do some research as to the children available to adopt in this country. There are websites for many states that list available children. I think it would be an eye opening experience for those of you who complain about adoptive parents who choose to adopt healthy babies and toddlers internationally.

  • Posted By: Karmom5 @ 10/09/2008 2:45:36 PM

    cani 77..
    Are you using any venue as a soapbox to campaign for Obama/Biden? This issue we are speaking of is about people who are willing to open their hearts and souls to love someone unconditionally.As I have a sister who is traveling down this long road..I beg that you don't waste this space talking about something that does not pertain to these people's journey.
    May God bless all those on their incredible journey..

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/09/2008 2:26:00 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/09/2008 2:25:50 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: asander0711 @ 10/09/2008 1:53:04 PM

    This is a subject I am extremely passionate about. God has blessed my husband & I with (2) beautiful boys. Yes, they were adopted through the foster care system.

    In reading some of the posts below, I can see there are many misconceptions. No - the biological parents (mother or father) can ever come back & reclaim the child. Once the adoption is finalized a new birth certificate is issued listing the adoptive parents as PARENT. Both the mother and father. There is no difference in this birth certificate than the one that is given to a biological parent. It lists the child's name (the name you give them - yes you have the right to do that / 1st name, middle name, last name can all be changed if you desire). You can also (and I do actually recommend this) change their social security number.

    As far as the costs, as posted below, if a child is adopted through the foster care system there are none ! The agency has access to attorney's that specialize in these adoptions. The one we had was fabulous.

    I could "ramble" forever about how blessed we are..........Our oldest was born profoundly deaf. He turned 5 in May and considering how he was when we got him at 14 months old - most people don't realize he is even the same child. He now has a cochlear implant on his right side & learning what different sounds are. Remember - he had never heard anything. He doesn't know what a dog barking or a bird singing sounds like. I will tell you this, the 1st time he turned at the sound of our voice - my husband & I both cried like babies.

    Our 2nd son was born addicted to cocaine. He is now 3 & very much all boy. The 1st couple of months were hard for him, but the doctors think he is fine. He is doing everything a typical 3 year old boy does - in some areas, they say that he is even well ahead of other children his age.

    Yes - you will be fingerprinted. Yes - your background will be checked out. Yes - your friends & family will be interviewed. No - none of these things are done before a biological parent has a child. However, the end result is worth whatever you have to do. I would do it all over again in a heartbeat.

    I cannot imagine waking up even one single day without them in my life.

  • Posted By: lisa1961 @ 10/09/2008 1:18:14 PM

    HoustonVol's comment below brings up a very important point - the failure of the US system to properly screen prospective adoptive parents. Yes, many of us went through a thorough and perhaps invasive process, but anyone who wants to get around this can easily do so. As a result, foreign countries are increasingly reluctant to allow their children to come to the US.

    I'm sure we can all agree that people who think of orphans as "rejects" should not be blessed with the responsibility of raising a child, regardless of origin. .

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