CULTURE

The Pornification Of A Generation

A new book traces the migration of porn culture from adult theaters to the mainstream—and asks what that means for kids.

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  • Posted By: philco @ 10/09/2008 7:15:24 PM

    It is always interesting and sometimes amusing to observe how the secular mind (as opposed to a person of religious faith) attempts in vain to wrestle with the morality of porn or the permisiveness of our sex culture in general. While religious faith and the morality that it espouses are often dismissed by the secualrists as 'foolish' or 'backward' or 'repressive' or 'imaginary' (or worse!) objective moral standards do exist and they provide clear answers to navigate through the moral problems of our culture. More importantly, these moral guidelines stand the test of time. On the other hand the secular mind has fought long and hard to 'liberate' us from the so-called evil constraints of Christianity, then they wonder why our world is so screwed up. Then they have to take flying leaps of reason and stretch to explain why porn, or anything else in our world is wrong.

    • Posted By: onwisconsin66 @ 01/09/2009 5:12:10 PM

      It is always amusing to those of us secularists who live by a strict ethical code that you religionists cannot conceive of such a life without the fear of hell or the reward of heaven. My husband and I are educators. We see the need to do good in the world. We give to charities rather than tithe to churches. America's Second Harvest could really use your help now! We volunteer in our community. We fight the good fight. Why should we need to be religionists to justify this existence?
      I grew up in the deep South. I was horrifically abused (sexually, physically, emotionally) by my birth father, a supposedly devout Christian who got away with all that he did to me. My young life was hell. Fine. I could choose to be angry or I could choose to help children. I chose the latter. But I don't buy the religion, for I know that for every one person who is a true believer there is another who is a total hypocrite. I didn't learn my values from my birth father. I learned them from people I met along the way who weren't necessarily Christian. I married for the first time at 23 and chose poorly. He was addicted to pornography and treated me poorly. At 30 I finally summoned the courage to leave. At 40 I chose more wisely and now have a very happy secular marriage to a man who shares my values entirely. Moral standards are not based upon Christianity - they are based upon the ethics that people decide they must have to live with one another. Pornography debases those who are involved in any way with it, from those who pose to those who view it. It isn't part of my ethical standard. Therefore, I must stand against it. No religious dogma needed.

  • Posted By: n0s4a2 @ 01/08/2009 3:50:51 PM

    Newseek has been wailing about sex in media since I began reading the magazine in the early 1960s, only then it was pin-ups, lewd rock and roll lyrics and Playboy that was going to rob us of all sense of decency. Oh, but this is different, they're actually having sex on screen! So what? People who are too young for sex aren't interested, and those who are, are not harmed by seeing it. Young people are influenced by everything-- from bible thumping preachers, to gays to war and everything else. Let them sort out their own values and their own styles. Censorship and puritanism gave birth to pornography, let it morph into something else in the open where at least it is subject to criticism.

  • Posted By: BunnyHerder @ 10/11/2008 11:45:42 AM

    As a single parent of an almost-teenager, I figured out long ago that you have to instill your feelings about certain things at an early age and keep on repeating your views whenever the subject comes up.

    I found out that my opinion meant more than all the media bombardment when she told me that she told a boy who was pursuing her that she was too young to do stupid stuff and that she had better things to do with her life. The young "man" had asked her to "make out" and maybe "experiment". She's not quite 13 and the boy is 15.

    She came home last night asking to be home-schooled because she heard girls in her class talking about having sex with their stepfathers and it scared her. A while back, she came home crying because her best friend told her that the father paid the older sister to strip in front of him. OMG!!!!

    Welcome to the REAL source of the scary stuff! It isn't the dolls you blame because they are only a symptom. This kind of crap was going on long before those ugly dolls came out (and, yes--they are UGLY. My daughter prefers American Girl dolls). I grew up as an Army brat and you DON'T want to know the stuff that we saw in quarters 30+ years ago!

    • Posted By: Almamater @ 12/01/2008 10:07:56 AM

      Report that "Dad" and Stepfather to the police - that is child molestation/abuse!!!

  • Posted By: Jackson123 @ 10/18/2008 3:25:50 PM

    I'[m sure that the situation is even worse than described, and I truly feel that it reflects the cause of the multitude of social problems that we are experiencing now, not to mention the economic ones. The "I don't really care about others" attitude that is prevelent, "I want what I want" I am personally embarrased by TV and printed images of females who's clevage is absolutely indecent and unnacceptable. These females have been misled by our society into thinking that it is alright to reveal all parts of their bodies for sensationalizm.

  • Posted By: marieannette @ 10/14/2008 8:37:34 PM

    as social constraints and taboos fall away, so crumbles our sense
    of dignity ans self-worth

  • Posted By: Pepi @ 10/13/2008 7:06:18 AM

    Idiots! stop bickering and start thinking about our kids. I think porn should be legitimised abd then regulated for the benefit and well being of our children and society at large.

  • Posted By: clintoony @ 10/12/2008 2:54:27 PM

    Jessica's just mad cuz she can't make the big bucks as a Fluffer.

  • Posted By: clintoony @ 10/12/2008 2:53:25 PM

    What's your problem? I'll tell you. You're just mad because women get paid MUCH more to perform than Men do, you sexist pig.

  • Posted By: KrimiaRiver @ 10/12/2008 12:17:31 AM

    Well, here's something all those experts didn't consider, though it might cause their heads to explode if they did: The most porn permissive societies are also those that are the most feminist (the West). The most anti-porn societies are those where women are the most oppressed and abused (Middle East, China, India, etc.).
    In other words, welcome to the feminization of America, because this is what it looks like.

  • Posted By: KrimiaRiver @ 10/12/2008 12:15:15 AM

    Well, here's something they didn't consider: The most porn permissive societies are also those that are the most feminist (the West). The most anti-porn societies are those where women are the most oppressed and abused (Middle East, China, India, etc.).
    In other words, welcome to the feminization of America, because this is what it looks like.

  • Posted By: jhort @ 10/11/2008 11:56:22 PM

    You can't blame it on Movie, TV, fashion or anything else. Those trends, story line and images are created because we as Americans buy into it. It's not the other way around. If it didn't sell it would be produced. Raise you children!

  • Posted By: jhort @ 10/11/2008 11:53:54 PM

    It all comes back to parenting. Spend time with your children and set a proper example. We all know, including your teens, that these types of actions and porn star image is wrong. Perhaps your teens are not yet aware of the reprocussions of their actions. They live in the NOW and don't understand that later in life they won't be accepted by society for what they believe is cool. In the entire world there is not another nation that is so low class as the United States. It's a disgrace!!

  • Posted By: Kate*the*Great @ 10/11/2008 10:16:14 PM

    This isn't anything new. The overt sexualization of our culture began with the movie industry and became prolific after WW2. Growing up in the same area as Madonna did, and being about the same age, I remember when she first burst onto the music scene. SHe rolled around in lingerie and was overtly sexual. This had not been done before. Soon after her popularity soared, little girls began the "mini" versions of her clothing, complete with ripped fishnets. So many people idolize Madonna, but I think a lot of blame belongs on her shoulders since her later videos were even more crass.

  • Posted By: bo-bob65 @ 10/11/2008 9:16:30 PM

    The question has been asked about what effect the porn culture will have on our children and that's important. But has anyone considered what effect this "culture" has had on the esculating numbers of pedophiles and sexually based offences being perpetrated today. What happens when someone esculates from the porn fantasy to actually acting out those ideas in real life? Someone once said " it takes a village to raise a child." So why are we letting those pornographers opt out of being responsible members of the "village" by degrading and perverting sex, which God meant to be enjoyed by a man and a woman in the sanctity of the marriage commitment.

  • Posted By: katchow @ 10/11/2008 5:54:28 PM

    As a woman in her mid-twenties, the only difference I see from my childhood and those described in this article is that we didn't have Bratz dolls. Instead we had massive articles about how Barbie was unrealistic and chauvinistic. Bratz are so impressive to kids, not because they are sexual, but because the features are large and freakish, and they are dressed in interesting and colorful ways. Little girls like bright colors and to dress dolls up in new ways, just because grown men get perverted thoughts about dolls does not make them sexual for little girls. In the same way that Barbie never made me want to be 8 feet tall with a horse neck. I think adult reactions to these dolls is more detrimental to children then the dolls themselves.

    Also "In a survey of 244 high-school students... researchers ... found that those who frequently viewed talk shows and prime-time programs with sexualized content endorsed sexual stereotypes more strongly."
    How is this a product of porn and not our popular culture just using PRIME TIME to reaffirm old stereotypes. We should not be blaming comfort with sexuality with main steam medias obsession with putting violence and sex together, we should be blaming mainstream media for showing sex in such a degrading and negative light.

    • Posted By: pw1970 @ 10/11/2008 8:37:17 PM

      Good points Katchow...

  • Posted By: pw1970 @ 10/11/2008 8:32:41 PM

    MADD is useless... When I was in high school in the late 80's MADD and SADD were everywhere. I remember after the SADD meetings we'd all head to someone's house, usually an officer in the SADD club to party and drink. MADD and SADD simply make it TABOO and THUS make kids want to do it even more... For every one success created by MADD and SADD you drive 10 more to do because it's cool. So sorry, but if you look to MADD or SADD as inspriation you might as well hand your kid a 5th in the morning before school you ignorant sap... Ignorance is bliss Cajun Guidry... And you must be on Cloud 9...

  • Posted By: Cajun Guidry @ 10/11/2008 8:26:40 PM

    When parents cannot say NO to a five-year old, problems have already begun. The makers of Bratz dolls are counting on parents to cave in, this is their business, this is the Almighty Dollar that will sell Mr.Scott's daughter's soul to the devil....without blinking an eye! It IS extremely tough to be parents today, but parents need to fight back, take a stand, FOR THEIR CHILDREN. Look at what the mothers of MADD did -look to them for inspiration and what can be accomplished when people start a revolution!

  • Posted By: pw1970 @ 10/11/2008 8:26:38 PM

    Umm, the reason its hypersexualized in the our Country, the USA, is because the right wing christian Wachos for years have told CHILDREN how sex was evil, you can only do it in this situations, etc. etc. etc. Now as a Republican since I was 18 until this year, when I switched to Libertarian, the Dumocrats are even worst sleezoids, but that's a different discussion. The more you tell children is wrong, and not to do it the more you drive them to it... Instead we should embrace natural male/famale sexuality and nudity. That would make it seem more natural to children and they'd be less likely to do it out of spite against the nuts bag right wingers shouts... Its not rocket science, between the bastardization of sex and nudity by the right wingers and the forcefeeding homosexuality as 'normal,' its not by they was as if it were the species would be able to reproduce male/male and female/female, but they cannot so it's not natural... MORE COMMON SENSE and less RIGHT WING FOOKTARDS AND LEFTISTS COMMIE SOCIALISTS NUTBAG LIBERALS... Seriously... It's not rocket science...

  • Posted By: pw1970 @ 10/11/2008 8:26:24 PM

    Umm, the reason its hypersexualized in the our Country, the USA, is because the right wing christian Wachos for years have told CHILDREN how sex was evil, you can only do it in this situations, etc. etc. etc. Now as a Republican since I was 18 until this year, when I switched to Libertarian, the Dumocrats are even worst sleezoids, but that's a different discussion. The more you tell children is wrong, and not to do it the more you drive them to it... Instead we should embrace natural male/famale sexuality and nudity. That would make it seem more natural to children and they'd be less likely to do it out of spite against the nuts bag right wingers shouts... Its not rocket science, between the bastardization of sex and nudity by the right wingers and the forcefeeding homosexuality as 'normal,' its not by they was as if it were the species would be able to reproduce male/male and female/female, but they cannot so it's not natural... MORE COMMON SENSE and less RIGHT WING FOOKTARDS AND LEFTISTS COMMIE SOCIALISTS NUTBAG LIBERALS... Seriously... It's not rocket science...

  • Posted By: sana99 @ 10/11/2008 6:19:15 PM

    PS. The person who talked about getting away from the unfair standards for men and women and ???god???. I totally applaud that aspect of modern life, a better and more even balance between the sexes is an excellent thing; though I would note that in having read the usual scriptures, I find that God has always recommended equal treatment between the sexes, especially as it relates to sex (in the Old Testament, the punishment for both men and women is identical, and God warns to make no favorites, in the New Testament, again the forgiveness for both is identical, and Jesus is angry about the unfair treatment of accusing a woman but not the man she was found with). Taking that into consideration, I would say that I have no idea what people were reading when they came up with the notion that things were ok for men but not for women, it certainly wasn???t ???scriptures.??? The unbalanced standard seems to be more related to the underlying foundations of the Greeks, Romans, and some Middle Eastern and European tribes, who had a history of a very low opinion of women, and very unfair and uneven treatment of women. God came talking out of Egypt and was VERY balanced about the sexes in sexual behavior, but the balance that God promoted was never instituted in most Middle Eastern or European societies, though it was verbally spoken, society did not uphold it or live by it. In reality, while people now are behaving not in accordance with Godly virtues, the sense of a more even balance between the social penalty for the behavior of two sexes is closer to Godly balance than it was two hundred years ago. (When women were penalized often dramatically, while no men were ever punished unless they treaded on another man???s foot in a manner of speaking)

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