The Pornification Of A Generation

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  • Posted By: qartha @ 10/10/2008 4:24:15 AM

    Where there is no revelation, the people cast off restraint; But happy is he who keeps the law (Proverb 29:18)

  • Posted By: qartha @ 10/10/2008 4:22:35 AM

    Thousands of years ago God warned the Israelites through Solomon, "WHEN THERE IS NO REVELATION, PEOPLE CAST OFF RESTRAINT. BUT HAPPY IS HE WHO KEEPS THE LAW" (Proverb 29:18)

  • Posted By: GeorgeFarahat @ 10/09/2008 10:22:55 PM

    Pornography is the oldest industry in history! It was kept in control throughout history. However, in our relativist postmodern society, we lost the meaning of absolute value. No more moral values and no more Christian faith in public- pornography is one of those illnesses that grow like cancer when you forget what is an absolute moral value and the real dignity of the human person.
    George

  • Posted By: GeorgeFarahat @ 10/09/2008 10:20:38 PM

    Pornography is the oldest industry in history! It was kept in control throughout history. However, in our relativist postmodern society, we lost the meaning of absolute value. No more moral values - pornography is one of those illnesses that grow like cancer when you forget what is an absolute moral value.
    George

  • Posted By: susanr48 @ 10/09/2008 8:55:07 PM

    In response to philco and in response to the article in general - Pornography has become an accepted part of our culture. I am a secularist, and I have no problem understanding why pornography is wrong - it is plain wrong for the sex act to be viewed by other persons - and what is more wrong is the acceptance of this "viewing," not just by Hollywood, but by everyone who allows it to be beamed into his or her home on Home Box Office and the other pay channels- when we do that we are increasing the profits of the pornography industry, and saying it's okay for our large, publicly traded national corporations to be engaged in distributing and profiting from porn. There's a mainstream movie comnig out this week, advertised everywhere, in which the running gag is about making a bad porn movie - as if that's just an everyday, okay topic. No wonder our children get pregnant. The acceptance of pornography has devalued our society, and is shameful. "We" who think like this need to find a way to protest against the mainstream corporations who are shamelessly making profits from this industry and from this intrusion into our everyday language, television, toys, etc. What say you guys - how do we fight back?

    • Posted By: philco @ 10/09/2008 9:12:37 PM

      Hi susanr48. A well drafted response. Very thoughtful. Yes, we both agree that pornography is wrong. But as a secualrist, on what basis do you make that value judgment? As a secularist what is the basis for your usage of value-loaded words like' shameful' and 'devalued'? I do not doubt one bit that you, like so many other secularists who still have a shred of decency in them remaining, that you have no trouble finding (correctly) that pornography is wrong, but WHY is it wrong? In a very ironic sense those who support and promote pornography are correct when they make appeal to 'freedom' when they attempt to justify their porn. They are merely living consistently within the secularist (non-religious) worldview. The natural conclusion of a worldview without objective morality is 'anything goes' - including pornography of all kinds. As a secularist you need to accept this. Or better yet...consider that there is a moral standard outside of you and me and bigger than both of us. With respect....

  • Posted By: foxfamily238 @ 10/09/2008 3:14:00 PM

    Very well written! This article should be heralded on the FRONT PAGE of msn. Of course, msn is as liberal and left as they can get.

  • Posted By: dmihailescu @ 10/07/2008 4:10:05 PM

    this is the main reason why we should vote a maverick like Palin in the office to fight the porn industry and promote positive moral values for our children by the power of her family example.

    • Posted By: ghostmasseur @ 10/09/2008 11:03:38 AM

      Palin as a maverick?

      A mindless putz maybe but in not way a maverick except for being a complelety out of control fool.

    • Posted By: DarrenFoster @ 10/07/2008 6:31:45 PM

      Yes abstaining from sex is the only way, especially for unwed, preganant 17 year olds. I think we have a new virgin mary.

    • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/07/2008 5:16:14 PM

      hahahahaha....hahahaha...o i hope your joking...well, that couldnt be anything but i joke i guess..

  • Posted By: sieg6529 @ 10/09/2008 10:59:29 AM

    Imaginary deities aside, it is not healthy for people to consider pornographic sex as normal. I have no problems with "teh pronz", but fantasy must be kept separate from reality. Who's job is that? The parent(s). If you can't take the time to teach your kids the difference between fantasy and reality, be ready for a lot of problems.

  • Posted By: lizrudolph @ 10/09/2008 9:24:54 AM

    First of all I thought your article was awesome!! Our children and teens are being brainwashed to think porn is normal. The innocence of a child is being changed by the perverse minds of our day. Yes- it is a parents responsibility to teach their children right from wrong. It is not the responsibility of the media to teach "sex education". I thought the comment that stated, "you can't make morals into laws" obviously does not know what he/she is talking about. A moral is a simple statement such as, "you shall not kill". Morality and laws go hand in hand.

  • Posted By: 2Cynic @ 10/07/2008 4:19:34 PM

    oh my god... you mean people will actually have to parent thier children instead of letting main stream media do it for them? You know what, I have 2 children and I deal with this too, yet somehow they have learned what is right and what is wrong... imagine that... you know its the price you pay for being in a free society. Guess what? You can't hide the world from your children, you just have to teach them to do the right thing in the society they live in.

    I guess too many people are too busy to actually have conversations with thier children about stuff like this... and drugs... and violence in media and games... so somehow we need big brother to come in and prude things up a bit so we don't have to actually talk to our kids and teach them right from wrong.

    You know what, if you can't handle raising your children in a free society perhaps you should move to a more totalitarian society... like the Taliban society... they don't have these problems... of course you could die if you don't tow the party line... but hey... at least they don't have these problems... right?

    • Posted By: paproudmom @ 10/07/2008 4:28:10 PM

      You act as though you can't be a good parent and still be opposed to the overly sexual images that are everywhere today. It is not either or. Even in free society there are cultural norms. You act as if society has to be totally open, which our society is not, or be like the culture of the Taliban. There is plenty of room between each extreme. Our society does not rules, guidelines, etc. for the common good. You seem very one sided in your views. Perhaps this is more harmful to your children then anyone who would seek to have some protection for children. Common sense has not gone out of style!

      • Posted By: 2Cynic @ 10/09/2008 4:57:09 AM

        You assume a lot, and what you assume is wrong. I am not saying I condone all the bad things in the world... however that being said, you can't make morals into laws. Morals need to be taught to children, and the children need to be able to deal with amoral people in a free society... running around screaming for extreme censorship is not the way to handle the problem... not in a free society. If everyone actually taught thier children that "being slutty" or whatever is wrong, then maybe in the future the impact of those ammoral behaviours would diminish in society.

        I may not agree with what you say or print or put up for sale, but I will die to defend your right to say it, print it or make it... I don't have to buy it. Welcome to America. Now go out and teach your kids what is acceptable in society and what is not. If you don't want to buy your kid a "Bratz" doll, then teach them why its not a good toy instead of trying to get "big brother" to ban it... or lying to them... teach them the truth.

  • Posted By: mstibbs @ 10/09/2008 1:41:24 AM

    So people are finally getting a clue. As a modern feminist I recall how women demanded the right to expressing their sexuality openly. I cautioned, at the time that no matter the subject it would eventually permiate society and, of course, the broader it spreads the cheaper it becomes. So women's sexuality has been trashed and is now trashy.

  • Posted By: mstibbs @ 10/09/2008 1:36:13 AM

    Well, well, well. People are finally getting a clue. This phenomenon is the outgrowth of the "sexual revolution." No matter the subject, it will permiate society eventually. As a modern feminist I recall women demanding the right to express their sexuality openly in the early '70s. Some of us cautioned at the time that overt sexuality would eventually infect all of society and result in the cheapening of same.

  • Posted By: wadebeck @ 10/08/2008 8:39:40 PM

    Before we had our safe communities, before there were laws, knowledge of science and medicine, young children saw the worst society could offer. Unfortunately, those stories were never told, or if they were, obliterated from the record books. Sacrifices of young children were commonplace in both continents. Even the bible makes reference to this. We have much evidence of the same in central America from the not so distant past. Ancient wars, that had no "rules" as we expect these days, separated mother from child, husband from wife; plagues left children of all ages to bear witness to all kinds of sick and dying people. I could go on and on about how in many ways, kids do have it better than they ever did. But when you focus on one small problem to where it overinflates into something it shouldn't be, it is easy to lose sight of the real problems. Did kids of this generation deal with the Great Depression? Ask an old-timer how it was growing up in such conditions. Countries even in this day and age have young kids working in sweatshops, as Soldiers, living among AIDS, etc. Just keep things in perspective, that's all.

    • Posted By: shanep @ 10/09/2008 12:41:00 AM

      Thanks for that wadebeck. I agree 100%.

  • Posted By: shanep @ 10/09/2008 12:38:19 AM

    I know this is a tad off topic, but if moral values are supposed to degrade before the "second coming" why are all these religious people so bent out of shape? I mean what is the great battle of good vs. evil ... without the evil? Some of us are just destined for it I suppose! ;)

  • Posted By: clmessina @ 10/08/2008 1:10:22 AM

    Who cares about this? Oh, wait. I guess people who let everyone else think for them. Yeah, kids need guidance and popular culture probably isn't the best guide. Unfortunately pop culture extends to our schools so you send your kid to an environment where they're surrounded by idiots 8 hours a day whose parents just let them loose on the internet. And who is driving the 'pornification'? Marketers. We're always at their mercy in a consumer culture. Can a parent win?

    I think so. I think if parents (and I am one, by the way) take the time to stay connected with their children and culture they can act as a filter until their own children can make informed choices on their own. When we don't discuss current culture, including porn and other controversial issues, we let let advertisers and other teens speak to our children for us. We have to take some measure of responsibility for our children's understanding of their environment/world.

    • Posted By: shanep @ 10/09/2008 12:29:30 AM

      I agree 100%. Your children will never turn out exactly as you envisioned. There is nothing wrong with accepting this and just doing your very best to present all the evidence and opinions of the world until they can make their own. For instance, we do not believe in God but when my children come home from Grandma and Grandpa's after attending church once and a while, they do believe in God. We just let them know that there is NOTHING wrong with that and present both sides of the story to them. Teach your kids to think and they will make their own decisions. Let's take some responsibility and teach our children to THINK.

  • Posted By: rafiq400 @ 10/08/2008 1:02:37 AM

    Brothers and Sisters in Humanity! Believe me. Islam (Total submission to the will of God) is the solution to all our problems. Research Islam and find the truth yourselves.

    • Posted By: religion_is_a_scam @ 10/08/2008 5:52:11 PM

      ISLAM IS A FRAUD RELIGION
      THEY ARE ARE TERRORISTS

    • Posted By: clmessina @ 10/08/2008 1:13:49 AM

      Yeah. Blowing up mosques and calling to destroy Isreal and non-believers is the way to go here. Even if you find that last statement reactionary or false you still don't recognize the problem of your initial arguement. What exactly is 'submitting yourself to God'? Can you even define what 'God' is or what 'submitting yourself' entails? I'm certain any answer you propose would have adherents and opponents who would both claim to be truly faithful. The ambiguity of your beliefs suggests they are man-made and built on sand.

      • Posted By: rafiq400 @ 10/08/2008 1:19:04 AM

        The major problem is muslims are not following Islam. As muslims, we have abandoned Quran and the teachings of Prophet Muhammad (pbuh) and other prophets including Jesus, Moses and Abraham. And that is the source of what you have described. Islam does not call for destroying Israel and non believers. What you have described is far from truth. Islam only commands to resist injustice and oppression.

  • Posted By: rjones @ 10/08/2008 8:48:31 AM

    Wow. I can't believe how many people posting here are 100% in favor of pornography! Even the parents here are making excuses why allowing their daughters to dress like whores in public is perfectly ok with them. Is this a sick society or what?
    Even though I'm an Atheist, I'll still use the pharase, "God help this country" because it's obvious we can't help ourselves.

    • Posted By: religion_is_a_scam @ 10/08/2008 5:50:50 PM

      THATS BECAUSE PARENTS ARE TOO BUSY TRYING TO GET RIICH AND LIVE THIS PHONY LIFESTYLE THAT THEY HAVE BECAUSE THEY ARE IN OVER THEIR HEADS WITH CREDIT DEBT

  • Posted By: InTheMachine @ 10/08/2008 2:18:05 PM

    The amount of expression is equal to the amount of repression. I agree that the media is oversexed, but the media is oversexed because sex sells, and sex will sell as long as it retains its aura of taboo and mystique. We have "hooker" dolls for young girls, but you still can't show a nipple on TV. Pret-teens are dressing provocatively, but abstinence-only education is still being pushed in schools. Corporations LOVE this dichotomy. They are making a killing off of it. Tempt with sex, then associate it with a product. Sex will continue to have a death grip on our culture until we bring it out of the shadows and into the light of day. Take a person and deny him food for a month, then associate anything you want him to do with images of delicious meals, and he will do whatever you want. Sex is just another part of life. When we are satisfied and at peace with our own sexuality, sexual marketing will have little effect on us,

  • Posted By: joetraderny @ 10/08/2008 12:28:23 PM

    with balls"; it is near cooperstown....

    women who don't want to be treated as hookers still act, dress, and behave as hookers....southern girls are much hotter so I am not really tempted, and the tight clothes just looks like a sausage in casing....anyway, somebody starving won't differentiate....southern girls while wearing less clothes because it is hot as ()^ still have more self-respect...at least back in the day......(not too far back)....whatever.....git r dun...maybe I will be single again who knows??? then I probably will be out of touch...the gross old single guy at the bar ...anyway....if mccain/palin get in, women won't have any rights and guys can just club and drag em like in mccain's times....which once again will be awesome from one perspective but not so much from another....there are pros/cons to everything....

    the very SAD thing is other countries which outperform us actually have uniforms and even separate schools for girls/guys to (shock) focus on learning.....we are all a bunch of dumb inbred hicks.....nothing shocks me anymore.....not even a backwards dum *()^ running for VP with sexed up preggie teens who says even rape incest does not allow any abortion...about as backwards as you can get and yet perhaps still represents some of the electorate in this cesspool...

    that the VP debate was a tie???? except for style (what???) points to the fact most people must have cotton between their ears...when moms themselves dress like hookers to get attention and most people end up getting divorced anyway....what is the whole *)^) @^%( point of anything really?????? there is none....

    I used to watch nip and tuck and wish everyday I could come in have coffee and bank somebody up against the conference table while having a conversation with somebody else....I am STILL working on it......oh well......as long as it is the boss it is fine.....what a )&@ joke of a country and free market capitalist society and a democracy.....pretty soon we will get shocked if you try to do it doggy style or are "alternative"..you can impregnate as many teens as you want in "missionary" position only....

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