The Pornification Of A Generation

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  • Posted By: tiamarita @ 10/08/2008 12:34:53 AM

    Parents are purposely turning over PARENTING/SUPERVISION to the schools, government, and other parents. Why? They are persuing their own selfish, often hedonistic, desires. They are role modeling this behavior for their children. Is it any wonder that kids are behaving this way? I mean, if a 12 year old is wearing a thong, who bought it for her? if a 13 year old is having sex its because she has been allowed to date unsupervised at such a young and inappropriate age. Start fining/penalizing the parents and a lot of this will stop. Parents, DON't put cable/internet in your young child's room where they have unfettered access to it. TURN OFF inappropriate programming/music when they come in the room. TALK about your values, right and wrong, and what others are doing and how it negatively impacts them and the rest of society OFTEN. LOOK AT YOURSELF and how you behave, drink, dress, socialize, and KNOW your kids are watching everything.

  • Posted By: Hmmm..... @ 10/07/2008 8:09:52 PM

    I'm inclined to agree with this article and some of its dangers
    I know a 12yr old boy who said he dumped his girlfriend after she offered him a blow job
    I know another 13yr old who's girlfriend is expecting
    I know a girl (in college now) who said she used give it up too quickly and it eventually led to a depression b/c of how ppl started treatin her.
    I've also heard stories about a 9yr old 'doing things under the stairs'
    This is to say nothing of what happens at teen parties nowadays especially given the rise of binge drinking
    Sure Parents play a role - but how many of us are working well over 40 hours a week...our ability to supervise and combat peer influence is limited - its the whole "but everyone else is doing it" approach...ten 'cool' 15yr olds telling your kid one thing and you saying another is often an uphill battle

    • Posted By: theresa1984 @ 10/08/2008 12:17:06 AM

      I understand that parents are busy, but I don't get how my 13-year-old sister ends up at parties at which her peers are drinking and performing oral sex on each other, while the parents are in the house. How does that happen?

  • Posted By: NeoPoliticus @ 10/07/2008 11:08:26 PM

    A vast oversimplification by a members of a generation that just don't understand what's going on today. None of these things are new - the only thing that has changed is that they are much less subtly expressed today. The real change isn't in the values - but in the elimination of the difference between public and private behavior.

  • Posted By: shanep @ 10/07/2008 10:37:11 PM

    People are people. They will do what we want. I had a porn addiction while growing up, but i never imagined that my first time would be that way and it was not. It was special. I met my wife online by accident, we dated for 4 years, we married, have had 3 children, we have been together now for a total of 9 years and are STILL expanding our sexual experimentation. There is NOTHING wrong with sex. Some women don't understand how much fun they can have and some men don't understand how to get what they desire without hurting their partner. It takes time, and love. We love to give into each others desires, and we both love to make real love. Just quit being so bitter and closed up. Find the right person, get comfortable, show REAL love, and you can have everything you ever desired!! If you are unhappy because you want porn sex (which is an absolutely wonderful experience) and are with someone who is closed and boring, GET OUT!!!! You will NEVER be happy with that person. To all men out there::: YOU CAN FIND THE PERFECT WOMAN! You just have to show love, patience, and commitment back! By the way, my wife and I are members of the generation of Pornification. We love each other, our children, and plan to teach them about the good and bad of sex. No embarrassment, none of the strange analogies. We think the Pornification of a generation is a GOOD thing. As a society we need to get over ourselves and move on to become better.

  • Posted By: clb2027 @ 10/07/2008 9:50:14 PM

    Bratz dolls and their sick marketing schemes are hurting girls everywhere...a female's importance should not be reliant on her looks, whether she puts out, or how sleazy she dresses. but it breaks my heart that this is the message that girls are receiving at such a young age in which they are so moldable. I pray that no girls feel like they are "not pretty enough, not good enough," or that none of them give it up and end up pregnant or with stds, but sadly, such provocative dolls encourage girls to carry themselves like whores (inevitably be treated as such.) And what for? so some corporation can make a ton of money. I like the quote about a battle for one's daughter's soul. Please, please, there is already a generation being affected by paris/britney, but it is our responsibility to provide children with positive role models. sex is an amazing and beautiful thing between two people that love each other--you can do it however and whenever you want when you grow up and are in a positive relationship...but children's toys such as these dolls make sex look positive when hookers do it--and that the way to get someone to love you and want to have sex with you is to dress like a whore...don't raise this generation to be insecure over petty things, confident, productive, empowered girls are so much more important than some company preying on young people to make a profit.

  • Posted By: clb2027 @ 10/07/2008 9:49:45 PM

    Bratz dolls and their sick marketing schemes are hurting girls everywhere...a female's importance should not be reliant on her looks, whether she puts out, or how sleazy she dresses. but it breaks my heart that this is the message that girls are receiving at such a young age in which they are so moldable. I pray that no girls feel like they are "not pretty enough, not good enough," or that none of them give it up and end up pregnant or with stds, but sadly, such provocative dolls encourage girls to carry themselves like whores (inevitably be treated as such.) And what for? so some corporation can make a ton of money. I like the quote about a battle for one's daughter's soul. Please, please, there is already a generation being affected by paris/britney, but it is our responsibility to provide children with positive role models. sex is an amazing and beautiful thing between two people that love each other--you can do it however and whenever you want when you grow up and are in a positive relationship...but children's toys such as these dolls make sex look positive when hookers do it--and that the way to get someone to love you and want to have sex with you is to dress like a whore...don't raise this generation to be insecure over petty things, confident, productive, empowered girls are so much more important than some company preying on young people to make a profit.

  • Posted By: sayitboldly @ 10/07/2008 9:44:37 PM

    When America and the world is demolished at second coming - maybe we will then wake up

  • Posted By: thedon @ 10/07/2008 7:18:05 PM

    OK mybetterisbetterthanyours. Congratulations. You have clearly evolved to an amazing being that lacks any sense of morality or right and wrong. Let me guess - what's right is up to the individual, and there is no absolute truth, right? You are sadly a product of a moral-less and Godless society. I'm sure you don't believe there even is a God. That's fine for you - as long as you're right . . . (and now you'll probably say something condescending to Christians and God and all . . . That's OK. We can take it. Again, fine as long as you end up being right.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 10/07/2008 7:30:08 PM

      But what if your both wrong, and Vishnu lays the hurt down on you? Mabey its more productive to stay in the realm of the physical world.

      • Posted By: thedon @ 10/07/2008 8:47:31 PM

        Well, we'll all find out one day, won't we. So you're saying we should only deal with what we can see? Mmm. That's fine again, as long as you're right and there IS no spiritual world. And as for Vishnu, I'll throw my chips in with Jesus Christ any day. Better outcome.

  • Posted By: Fr33dumb @ 10/07/2008 8:24:49 PM

    Gee//a nation of people who dance around sex like we don't have the parts and aren't interested in it, try as hard as possible and wait as long as possible to talk about it...this isn't an issue of good and evil. Most parents...scratch that -- most people -- are too ashamed to even say penis or vagina, so I'm sure kids learn a lot from their blushing parents who spend five embarrassing minutes one day saying "don't do it." How informative. Teach your kids some self respect and what sex actually is and what your children are really worth and maybe they won't turn out so screwed up. And maybe if you stop acting like sex is not fun, nobody's interested, and we should be ashamed for our instincts and natural urges -- they won't realize just how quickly you are a fat liar AND hypocrite. Maybe if you let them in on the secret that it is one of the best and enjoyable experiences -- but just like driving -- you have to be old enough, well prepared, and know what you're doing before you hurt yourself or someone else.

  • Posted By: Nor-Cal for Obama @ 10/07/2008 8:01:02 PM

    YAY FOR TEH PORNOZ

  • Posted By: peter1589 @ 10/07/2008 7:58:34 PM

    kwithcherbellyachin: You want to know the real reason your history of fornication is there? For the answer, pray the 54 day Rosary Novena. Google it. Then wait until God shows you the demons he showed me. I guarantee, no matter the infinite terror of the moment, teh flesh will still demand more. But, as St. Paul says, "9:27. But I chastise my body and bring it into subjection: lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway."

    And the Church explains:

    I chastise, etc... Here St. Paul shews the necessity of self-denial and mortification, to subdue the flesh, and its inordinate desires.
    Pray and fast dear. Hell is eternal and not to be toyed with. Trust me on this. I am a witness.

  • Posted By: kwitcherbellyachin @ 10/07/2008 7:50:43 PM

    i f@&%ked Gene Simmons of KISS back in the day. I bought into the whole sexual liberation as a teen. Later as an adult I participated heavily in swing clubs across the country. My current lover is married. He and his wife host 20 couple adult parties at their place every six weeks where anything goes.
    Here's what I've learned: Gene Simmons took pictures of most all the women he had sex with and used them later to bolster his own ego. I have had sex with over 1000 men and only one gave me money as I would have
    nothing to do with him otherwise; he was my stepfather-in law and I was 18 at the time. Flash forward 40 years and though I've escaped any major non-treatable STDs, my libido is shot. I believe the over exposure to orgy sex and other forms of "free love" spoiled some part of my delicate sense of desire. Oh I want to, my body just won't do what it once did... blame old age, but I know it's more & I know of seniors older who seem to have very satisfying sex lives albeit not especially swinging from the chandeliers.
    My married (to some one else) lover treats me like a sister he's incesting. I try to leave, he pouts and chases. He stays in my live other suitors pout and won't pursue me.
    I sold mysuroound sound home theater 6 months ago. I have attended church with married lover for 8 years.

    Bottom line, I'm going to try the old fashioned way of trying for a suitor who wishes to court me. If we work out, he will have full disclosure of my previous antic and as a couple he will know we may choose to visit or host adult parties if we agree. My idea of marital bliss is emotional monogamy where I know him better than anyone and vice versa. The idea of intrigue and secrets in a marriage or likewise liason sickens my stomach. I roll through life every day amongst causal acquaintances. The last causal acquaintance I want is in my bedroom.. I agree that sex is God given and a wonderful gift to be enjoyed. What I am saying is, too much can spoil us. And Gene, marry her for God sake and get over yourself!

  • Posted By: peter1589 @ 10/07/2008 7:45:46 PM

    As dead Beattle John Lennon said, "Imagine," if you will that there really is a Hell, and a devil and so many demons that they are like flies upon the earth. Just bear with me, won't you? Now, if Jesus said (a) that men who look upon women with lust in their hearts have committed adultry (a mortal sin which impels one to eternal torments); and (b) the Blessed Virgin Mary said at Fatima, after revealing the reality of Hell to the 3 shepherd childre, that more people go to Hell for sins of the flesh than for any other reason . . . then isn't this relentless parade of flesh and porn a little . . . errmmmmm . . . suspect? Hmmmm?

  • Posted By: Poodles @ 10/07/2008 7:34:52 PM

    Grotesque. This "toy" smells worse than the baby high-heels. Toys of the "Bratz" nature need to be taken off the market to under 13-years. Truly, it would be best if Bratz just went away. I have looked 'em up and down. They belong in sex shops, not our children's bedrooms. A bad roll model. I am far from being a prud. Just very concerned about negative messages being sent to our youngsters.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 10/07/2008 7:32:08 PM

    Now i feel the need to precourse my view on this story by saying that i have seen some of the most perverted stuff that any human could imagine. My friends are the same way; all very encouraged by the opening up the conservative outrage about all things sex and porn. Im of the Clerks generation, and nothing (seriously) can offend me. However, there has to be a line when dealing with children. Come on people, the obserdity of comparing the 80's to today is beyond bogus; if today is pushing the envelope of the limits, the 80's were buried in the mail bin. I dont mind 16 and 17yr olds who want to dress like strippers, in fact, dont mind is an understatement, i love it (and be aware that the legal age of consent is 16 in most states, which it should be), but when were talking about stripper culture being marketed to 11 and 12 yr olds, its just a little too much; not for me, i dont care, but for society, and i get why parents are concerned, and yield to them on wether it needs to be taken on. The culture i want for the country is pretty outlandish for contemperary tastes, and i'm good with just rolling in my ever expanding drunken, degenerate, 20 something circle; but lets allow kids to be kids for a whie before we teach them how to sexualize themselves, at least till there old enough to realize that's what they're doing.

  • Posted By: Gryphyn @ 10/07/2008 7:02:31 PM

    berlee, You're missing the point of the article. Everyone understands that adults know what they do or do not wish to view/hear/participate in. Children and young adults, however, lack the knowledge of what everything they are being exposed to means, and they can't get that knowledge without it altering their view of the world. It is being fed to them much to early, much too quickly. They don't have time to figure it out for themselves, what their values are, etc., because their view of how they are supposed to act is created for them and displayed as normal.

    • Posted By: mrzoid @ 10/07/2008 7:08:10 PM

      Are you kidding? Have you talked to a 13 year old lately? Those little bastards are leaps and bounds ahead of past generations; blessings andcurses of the internet age are sometimes overlapping.

      • Posted By: Gryphyn @ 10/07/2008 7:21:48 PM

        Yes, I have.

        Just because they are smart enough technologically to gain access to the material, doesn't mean they are mature enough developmentally to handle what they find.

        I didn't say is an easy job, but I feel it is a necessary one.

        • Posted By: mrzoid @ 10/07/2008 7:26:41 PM

          Not in solely a tech sense, all around. Kids today have alot more perspective than their predicesors.

  • Posted By: Gryphyn @ 10/07/2008 7:14:33 PM

    In the same vein as mybetterisbetter's comment, a big reason that the "pornification" has been able to happen is because of America's ultra-conservative tendancies. It is the same reason that we have such a problem with binge drinking among teens; they're always going to want to do what is bad, because it is exciting. They aren't supposed to drink, so they drink to excess. They aren't supposed to have sex, so they have sex to excess.

    If parents would openly discuss this stuff with their children and help them develop a sense of right and wrong that is based on intelligent facts rather than religious catch phrases with no substance, I don't think we would have the problem we do now.

    Let's face it, telling a kid "no, because I said so" is the surest way to make sure they do "it." But if you make them comfortable with the subject, teach them why one course of action is better than another, and help them form a respect for their own body/health/future, and they just might surprise you.

  • Posted By: katybeth @ 10/07/2008 6:03:29 PM

    Are you kidding me? You think conservatives would encourage this? I am assuming you are a liberal and are twisting this into your own political agenda. What conservatives actually believe women's place is in the home? Name one for me. As a highly educated female conservative, I get tired of these nameless accusations that conservatives are sexist. Have you noticed that Governor Palin is not in the home? There are so many things wrong with what you just said ...

    • Posted By: katybeth @ 10/07/2008 6:05:35 PM

      I was responding to zviw.

      • Posted By: fissilemissile @ 10/07/2008 6:14:01 PM

        I think big players in the conservative party are behind this myself. Who do you think are at the top of the network ladder that approves the commercials for this crap. CEO's of most major corporations tend to be conservative. If you think they're giving you guys a bad name then eject them from your party. But the problem is that you can't because they have bought the rights to be big shot players in the party because of their big pocket books.

        • Posted By: zaq1 @ 10/07/2008 7:07:49 PM

          Very possible, here is an analogy. My grandfather was a bootlegger and a Baptist deacon back in the thirties. He was very out spoken about the evils of liquor from the pulpit and worked hard to ensure his county stayed dry. As long as booze it was illegal in his county his bootlegging profits were high. The conservatives could be running the same type of game with porn; I think it is clear they are doing it with drugs.

  • Posted By: mrzoid @ 10/07/2008 7:05:59 PM

    Just get your daughters on birth control at 13, and put condoms in the pockets of your kids regardless of gender, and lets just let them go buck wild; or i guess you could send them to non-coed boarding schools in Switzerland. Oh, or mabey you could just talk to your kids about the pluses and minuses of sex... no wait, thats just crazy.

  • Posted By: mybetterisbetterthanyours @ 10/07/2008 7:05:42 PM

    The guy who wrote this incorrectly refers to anything of a sexual nature being porn derived. He needs keep the responsibility of raising his kid to himself and not ask the world for help. I personally think that american culture is already sexually repressive enough. Most european cultures laugh at America because of our hypocritical stance on pornagraphy. This writer is just one of the throw back purtians that squaks about actually having to raise their kids in world without boundaries. The last time I checked America is free country and as consequence for our freedom we have to be resposible for ourselves. if you feel like porn has corrupted your utopia you are well with in right to leave this country and go to a place where porn isnt allowed noone is keeping you here. but since your here and enjoy the rest of the freedoms that america provides is it really to much to ask you to raise our own kids without improper placing the all of socities sexual ills on porn. The truth is that there has never been a link between porn and sexual deviency and they have done the studies and most them say that most sexual devients don't even watch porn because of the lack reality . So Mr. sexually frustated author that sees porn in fishnet stocking you might want reevaluate your sexual being you know Sigmond would say about you.

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