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  • Posted By: interactive experience @ 10/10/2008 11:16:11 AM

    Obama said, "I favor nuclear power." That's a stronger statement then we've heard him make before. As recently as last December, he said, "I am not a nuclear energy proponent."

    John Maynard Keynes' response to criticism that he changed his mind. "When the facts change, I change my opinion, what do you do sir?"

  • Posted By: interactive experience @ 10/10/2008 11:08:43 AM

    Obama said, "I favor nuclear power." That's a stronger statement then we've heard him make before. As recently as last December, he said, "I am not a nuclear energy proponent."

    John Maynard Keynes' response to criticism that he changed his mind. "When the facts change, I change my opinion, what do you do sir?"

  • Posted By: c304938 @ 10/10/2008 10:58:45 AM

    YOU FORGOT THE MCCAIN'S "23 MILLION SMALL BUSINESSES WOULD BE HURT BY A TAX INCREASE FOR PEOPLE MAKING OVER 250,000 DOLLARS PER YEAR".If you go to the IRS web site, look at tax stats, you will find out of over 90 million tax returns for the latest year recorded 2005, only a little more than 3 million returns were from people who make over 200,000 per year. so if we assume all those 3 million returns were from small business owners, mccain's numbers are 20 million over stated. and this is the guy we should trust?

  • Posted By: c304938 @ 10/10/2008 10:53:26 AM

    YOU FORGOT THE 23 MILLION SMALL BUSNISSES WOULD BE HURT BY A TAX INCREASE FOR PEOPLE MAKING OVER 250,000 DOLLARS PER YEAR. If you got to the IRS web site, tax stats, you will find out, FROM A LITTLE over 90 million tax returns for the latest year 2005, only a little over 3 million TAX RETURNS REFLECTED INCOME OF MORE THAN 200,000 PER YEAR YEAR. ASSUMING ALL 3 MILLION TAX RETURNS ARE SMALL BUSINESS OWNERS MCCAIN MISSED IT BY 20 MILLION. AND THIS IS THE GUY WE SHOULD TRUST?

  • Posted By: fjoemomeo @ 10/10/2008 5:16:08 AM

    My wife worked for Ebay. McCain was wrong about:
    1. Ebay was founded by French-born Iranian compter programmer Pierre Omidyar (not Whitman), who now lives in France.
    2. Meg Whitman was not a member of the original "12 employees" as McCain aluded to. There were more then 500 employees before she was hired.

  • Posted By: 1510mcpheet @ 10/10/2008 12:15:20 AM

    It???s not exactly clear what Obama meant when he stated that the computer was originally invented to figure out how to communicate. You are correct in stating that the first actual computer built was the ENIAC, but its primary purpose was to solve differential equations to calculate artillery trajectories, not to communicate. In the early 1970???s DARPA (Defense Advanced Research Projects Agency) was responsible for developing the ARPANET to promote information processing using computer technology. This is generally regarded as the forebearer of today???s Internet.

    You are correct in saying the Babbage first proposed the idea of a difference engine in 1822, however, the difference engine cannot be described as a computer in the convential sense in that it was not a programmable machine, but rather a special purpose calculator. Moreover, it is questionable to describe the difference engine as an invention, since there is no record of it having ever been patented, and in any case one was never actually built until 1991. In 1837 Babbage proposed the idea of an analytical engine, which, if it had been built would have qualified as a general purpose computer since it would have been programmable, but again there is no record of it ever having been patented and it was never built.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/09/2008 10:54:37 PM

    Obama's Campaign Paid Over $800,000 To ACORN For Get-Out-The-Vote Efforts, But "Mistakenly Misrepresented" Their Work To The FEC:

    Obama's Campaign "Paid More Than $800,000" To ACORN For Get-Out-The Vote Efforts; The Campaign Originally "Misrepresented" The Group's Work To The FEC. "U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports. An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in 'get-out-the-vote' projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary." (David M. Brown, "Obama To Amend Report On $800,000 In Spending," Pittsburgh Tribune Review, 8/22/08)

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/09/2008 10:54:26 PM


    Obama Formerly Represented ACORN, Taught Classes For Future Leaders Of ACORN, And They Endorsed His 2008 Presidential Campaign:

    Obama Directed Project Vote And Later Taught Classes For "Future Leaders Identified By ACORN And The Centers For New Horizons." "He [Obama] says he is drawn to politics, despite its superficialities, as a means to advance his real passion and calling: community organization. ... In 1992 Obama took time off to direct Project Vote, the most successful grass-roots voter- registration campaign in recent city history. Credited with helping elect Carol Moseley-Braun to the U.S. Senate, the registration drive, aimed primarily at African-Americans, added an estimated 125,000 voters to the voter rolls -- even more than were registered during Harold Washington's mayoral campaigns. 'It's a power thing,' said the brochures and radio commercials. ... Obama continues his organizing work largely through classes for future leaders identified by ACORN and the Centers for New Horizons on the south side." (Hank De Zutter, Op-Ed, "What Makes Obama Run?" ChicagoReader, 12/8/95)

    Obama Was Part Of Team Of Lawyers Who Represented ACORN In A Suit Against The State Of Illinois. "Obama was part of a team of attorneys who represented the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) in a lawsuit against the state of Illinois in 1995 for failing to implement a federal law designed to make it easier for the poor and others to register as voters." (Mike Robinson, "Obama Got Start In Civil Rights Practice," The Associated Press, 2/20/07)
    ACORN's Political Action Committee Endorsed Obama. "[A]CORN's political action committee endorsed Barack Obama for President. ... The endorsement reflects a belief that Obama -- who worked as a community organizer on the South Side of Chicago -- understands that change must come from the ground-up, as part of a working coalition, rather than from position papers." (Katrina Vanden Heuvel, Op-Ed, "ACORN: Obama Gets It," The Nation, 2/23/08)

    http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/rnc-obama--acorn-fact/story.aspx?guid=%7B29569FA1-136D-4B95-9D51-4EF9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr


    The link below describes how some in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/09/2008 10:54:00 PM

    Even Bill Clinton points to Congressional Democrats failure to deal with Fannie and Freddie as a primary cause.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XsynspIqAoE

    The link below contains a purported list of the top 25 in Congress who got contributions from the folks at Fannie and Freddie. Obama is listed third, after Dodd and Kerry, even though Obama is just a junior Senator. Obama is followed next by Clinton. Barney Frank and Nancy Pelosi are on the list as well.

    http://www.investors.com/editorial/IBDArticles.asp?artsec=16&artnum=1&issue=20080918

    Then there is the Senate Banking Committee Chairman Christopher J. Dodd who allegedly got special mortgage deals from Countrywide, who gave preferential rates to 'friends' of company's chairman.

    http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/25140560/

    For an interesting article purporting to detail the House Financial Services Committee Chairs long history with Fannie Mae, See http://www.businessandmedia.org/printer/2008/20080924145932.aspx

    "House Financial Services Committee Chair promoted GSEs while former 'spouse' was Fannie Mae executive."

    The link below describes how some in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

    And then there is House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, who allegedly has directed nearly $100,000 from her political action committee to her husband's real estate and investment firm.

    http://www.washtimes.com/news/2008/oct/01/pelosis-pac-pays-bills-for-spouses-firm.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/09/2008 10:11:53 PM

    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!

    Is Barack Obama blowing smoke or not? Is Barack Obama a chain smoker or not? If he is only a closet smoker and not transparent by smoking in public and admitting that he has a nicotine addiction then how can we trust him on other issues that are truly grave? Does he smoke a lot of cigarettes only when he plays poker with his Chicago friends or is it a daily habit? How can we trust him on health care if he is a smoker. Would not someone who really wants to hold down healthcare costs want to quit smoking.

    We want to know if Barack Obama is going to promise to not chain smoke around Joe Biden because Joe Biden had asthma as a teenager. The reason that Joe Biden could not fight for his country in 1968 during the peak of the Vietnam War was that he had teenage asthma.

    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/09/2008 10:11:20 PM

    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!


    Joe Biden had horribly bad luck, ninety percent of all children are diagnosed with asthma before age six but Joe Biden was unlucky enough to be in the ten percent group of children who acquire asthma after age six and became asthmatic when he was a teenager.

    After five student deferments while he attended college and law school, his teenage asthma finally came to the attention of his local Selective Service Board and he missed the opportunity to serve his country during time of war as an officer.

    But for his bad luck with his teenage asthma diagnosis, Joe Biden could have gone in and served his country honorably as a officer and a gentleman and perhaps as a Judge Advocate Law Officer similar to his son. Most Americans would be concerned about Joe Biden???s health if he had to step into the Presidency. We hope that Barack Obama will not smoke in front of Joe Biden because the smoke could aggravate Joe???s asthma that prevented him from serving his country during time of war.

    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!
    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/09/2008 10:09:56 PM

    Why is Barack Obama always putting Joe Biden his running mate in a peculiar position. Barrack Obama stated that the reason he did not join the military service was that the United States was not at war at the time when he was eligible to serve and most people join.

    Barack Obama knows that Joe Biden did not join the military service because of an asthma condition that was not diagnosed until his teenage years. Joe Biden had horribly bad luck, ninety percent of all children are diagnosed with asthma before age six but Joe Biden was unlucky enough to be in the ten percent group of children who acquire asthma after age six and became asthmatic when he was a teenager.

    After five student deferments while he attended college and law school, his teenage asthma finally came to the attention of his local Selective Service Board and he missed the opportunity to serve his country during time of war as an officer.

    But for his bad luck with his teenage asthma diagnosis, Joe Biden could have gone in and served his country honorably as a officer and a gentleman and perhaps as a Judge Advocate Law Officer similar to his son. Barack Obama should be kinder to his running mate and not emphasize that he did not serve because the country was not at war in contrast to Joe Biden who did not serve while the country was at war.

    Vote John McCain !!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/09/2008 10:08:10 PM

    Why is Barack Obama always putting Joe Biden his running mate in a peculiar position. Barrack Obama made comments during the
    Nashville Townhall debate that were hilarious with Barack Obama criticizing John McCain???s plan for allowing insurers in different states to provide health care plans in other states. None of the national news commentators seem to pick up on the comment.

    Senator John McCain said that his medical plan allowing plans from other states would lead to choice, competition, and lower costs for consumers and companies. Barack Obama said that would lead to inadequate protections and it would be similar to the incorporation laws of Delaware where most United States corporations are incorporated. Corporations from many states incorporate in Delaware. Barack Obama was insulting the laws and voters of Delaware and his running Joe Biden who has been a Senator from Delaware for the past thirty years. Apparently Barack Obama feels that the incorporation statutes of Delaware are inadequate and offer little protection to investors or creditors of those corporations around the country. If that was the case, why hasn???t Senator Joe Biden from Delaware or Barack Obama jumped in there and get the Delaware state legislature to change the corporation laws of Delaware. Senator Joe Bidens failure to do so for the past thirty years must reflect on him according to Barack Obama analysis.

    It is amazing that Barack Obama would use an example criticizing the laws of a state of his running mate Joe Biden. Just imagine what Barack Obama would have said about Delaware incorporation laws if Joe Biden was not on the ticket. Independent and undecided voters of Delaware and around the country, vote John McCain!!!!!!!
    vote John McCain!!!!!!! vote John McCain!!!!!!! vote John McCain!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/09/2008 10:06:57 PM

    The alleged recent Nashville email hacking incident looks like a Watergate burglary and potential coverup on the part of the Barack Obama campaign. The potential intelligence value of Governor Sarah Palins private emails for the Democratic campaign leadership was immeasurable.

    It is hard to believe that this information was not knowingly passed on and received by higher Democratic officials working obstensibly on behalf of the Barack Obama campaign. Just as in Watergate, initially it was thought to be only a third rate burglary unconnected to the President and higher officials.

    I wish a current day Woodward and Berstein with the Washington Post could investigate this alleged Tennesse email hacking case involving Governor Sarah Palin and any potential ties to higher Democratic leaders. Just as Watergate involved Cubans who were initially thought to be just third rate burglars this story could go much further.

    There has to be a Watergate like anonymous informant out there with more information about who might have intentionally and knowingly received these confidential emails and violated federal wiretapping statutes. I want to hear an unequivocal denial from the Barack Obama campaign that they did not receive any intelligence from this hacking and that the national campaign headquarters promptly reported to the FBI their lack of involvement immediately after they were informed that the alleged hacking took place.

    The Secret Service should be very interested in this hacking. The hacker could have passed intelligence on Sarah Palins travel plans, patterns of behavior, clues that potential bad actors could use in bringing harm to Sarah Palin. Joe Biden is screaming about the words of a few probable Barack Obama campaign-directed dirty tricks planted crowd operatives in Sarah Palin campaign crowds who shouted inappropriate statements posing a potential threat and the real threat is this hacker revealing potential personal clues about Sarah Palin???s life that could put her in danger.

    Why Joe Biden has not spoken out on this hacking issue and state for the record that he nor any of his staff has not read her stolen emails?

    Vote John McCain!!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/09/2008 7:23:52 PM

    From: http://www.marketwatch.com/news/story/rnc-obama--acorn-fact/story.aspx?guid=%7B29569FA1-136D-4B95-9D51-4EF9E87ED547%7D&dist=hppr

    Obama's Campaign Paid Over $800,000 To ACORN For Get-Out-The-Vote Efforts, But "Mistakenly Misrepresented" Their Work To The FEC:

    Obama's Campaign "Paid More Than $800,000" To ACORN For Get-Out-The Vote Efforts; The Campaign Originally "Misrepresented" The Group's Work To The FEC. "U.S. Sen. Barack Obama's presidential campaign paid more than $800,000 to an offshoot of the liberal Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now for services the Democrat's campaign says it mistakenly misrepresented in federal reports. An Obama spokesman said Federal Election Commission reports would be amended to show Citizens Services Inc. -- a subsidiary of ACORN -- worked in 'get-out-the-vote' projects, instead of activities such as polling, advance work and staging major events as stated in FEC finance reports filed during the primary." (David M. Brown, "Obama To Amend Report On $800,000 In Spending," Pittsburgh Tribune Review, 8/22/08)

    The link below describes how some in Congress tried to use the original version of the bailout bill to divert money eventually recovered to groups like ACORN, a group Obama has a long association with. See:

    http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122247015469280723.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

  • Posted By: Concerned Christian @ 10/09/2008 7:08:17 PM

    We are in a national crisis similar to 911. We all need to be Americans; not Democrats or Republlicans. Unfortunately, McCain has conducted a pathetic campaign and has used horrific tactics. When I hear Palin and McCain stir up the crowds and people yelling,"Kill him (Obama), etc. and the candidates do not address the audience, I am so sorry for McCain. McCain has lost his honor. McCain's glory days are over! McCain has been festering for eight years b/c of what Bush did to him. Now he is putting all of his anger (and there is a lot of it) onto Obama. McCain just looks uncontrolled, nervous, and desperate. After all of this is over, I hope McCain will be able to reach over the aisle instead of destroying his legacy. I was on a Fox blog the other day and someone said that Obama should get the Kennedy fate. Does that mean they want to kill a father of two young, beautiful little girls? I thought we were all Christians. It is about time that we all start acting like the Bible teaches us. God Bless America and God Bless the ill-informed and misinformed. May their words evaporate as they escape their mouths and never become a reality.

  • Posted By: Nophonies @ 10/09/2008 4:20:49 PM

    Both McCain and Obama need to focus on the questions being asked. Those questions do not invite one candidate to speak on the other's approach to an issue--they ask each candidate to speak to the question from his own perspective. In the debate (if you can call a Town Hall meeting a debate), McCain consistently used up valuable time misstating Obama's position and said very little regarding his own positions. Obama tdid somewhat better but still wasted time correcting McCain's misstatements and lost an opportunity to clarify his position on the question being directed to him. Mc Cain 's responses showed that he has very little to say about the actual issues and his constant overuse of "my friends" sounded contrived and unconvincing. Both candidates need to let the attacks go and focus on speaking to the issues.

  • Posted By: Bellstarr2007 @ 10/09/2008 3:42:52 PM

    I do not understand why they spout all of these inaccurracies when they know it can be checked and/or disputed for all to see? If the source of the candidates information is the people hired for that purpose, they need to clean the slate and start over with individuals who have a little more gray matter between their ears! Instead of pointing fingers during these debates, as they seem intent on doing, tell the American people what your proposed solutions are! Americans have become far too complacent about what is happening in Washington with our law makers. We need to start marching again! Terms for some of those petrified minds that have been there (in Congress, etc) for years wouldn't be a bad idea either. If presidents cannot serve more than an 8 year term, why don't we have terms for Congress? I don't get it. It's like America has been asleep in lala land and we've woken up to a horrible nightmare and we have no one to blame but ourselves. All of us.

  • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/09/2008 1:36:47 PM

    So what does palling around with terrorist mean?

    Barack and Bill Ayers began working together in January, 1995, when Barack was chosen as chairman of an educational reform effort called the Chicago Annenberg Challenge, and Bill Ayers was a member of an advisory board.

    Billionaire publisher Walter Annenberg created the Annenberg Foundation in 1989, which spawned the national Annenberg Challenge in 1993. He challenged private and public investors to match the half-billion dollars his foundation put toward the improvement of public education in large urban centers.

    Bill Ayers, a professor working on education reform with then-Chicago Mayor Richard Daley, co-founded the Chicago Annenberg Challenge and advised Barack's board of directors on projects to support urban education.

    Barack and Bill. Ayers may have met at board meetings less than five times between 1995 to 2002.

  • Posted By: trueblackamerican @ 10/09/2008 12:18:09 PM

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