Kill, cut of his head, terriost ~ McGeezer and Gidget.........Thanks but NO thanks.
Hillary ~ Sarah will never be.
Kill, cut of his head, terriost ~ McGeezer and Gidget.........Thanks but NO thanks.
Hillary ~ Sarah will never be.
This is the type of women that supports Obama. Intelligent - oh please!
Have you read any of your posts? Your not that nice - or bright.
Actually I'm very nice and bright. Thank You. However, I am frustrated by what I am reading because it is all so unnecessary. I answered her it a not so nice way because I have been told several times that intelligent women don't like Palin. So I was actually making a joke. Sorry if I am sounding testy. I really wish we could all just discuss issues without getting nasty.
Just like Palin, you evaluate yourself and find a star! Two idiots
What we know now about Palin profile:
-Reduced the museum budget forcing 3 older women to resign because none of them wanted to hurt the others? But found the money to pay a questionable necessary assistant....
-Fired the librarian because would not ban the books she wanted?. And had to re-hire her after the big up rise of hundred of people came in her defense.....
-Asked for resignation letter to all head of department and accepted them based in their loyalty (yes person) to her? Firing a lot of hard working bread winner which had given rise to a recall campaign......
-During her tenure as years as Mayor increased general government expenditures by over 33% and the amount of taxes collected by the City increased by 38%, but run as a ???fiscal conservative???? Lowered taxes on business and increased to residents....sounds familiar. Maybe the difference with Bush is ???lipstick???.
-Found Wasilla with a balanced-budget and left it with 22 million debt? Remind you of someone in Washington by chance?.........
- Tried to replace the man she fired (troopergate story) with a man who she knew had been reprimanded for sexual harassment?. When this caused a public furor, she withdrew her support....
- Has refused to cooperate with the state investigation like she is above the law?
-Declined to call a special legislative session on some pro-life legislation but says she is pro-life? Humm.....
- Supported the bridge to nowhere before she opposed it? When already killed in Washington.... But kept the money....
- Says she opposes earmarks and record shows the hundred of millions she got both as mayor and governor? And lies publicly over and over about it...
- Said she visited the troops in Iraq?. A lie....
- Have left the meth labs grow wild during her administration, Wasilla becoming Alaska???s meth lab capital and is she the reformer that is going to shake up WA, Wall street and the world but could not control this meth lab problem?
- Said during her interview that Alaska "produces nearly 20 percent of the U.S. domestic supply of energy." ?. When in fact is 2.4%......
- Kills animal in winter when they are easy target from a helicopter and a AK-47....
- Her teen pregnant at 17 and her son out to Irak to avoid jail time. How can a mother expose her pregnant daughter worldwide?. Her political ambitions first?
- Has accepted to give (rather read) speeches full of lies at convention and debate? Has accepted to say whatever McCain s campaign ask her to say to smear Obama, and incite hatred and division. Where is honor and integrity left?
- Could not respond to the most basic questions from Couric about readings or Supreme court decisions and is in line to be president?
- Supports the Alaskan Independence Party an anti-American party in league with Iran.
Todd was a member for 7 years and how can you believe them about this subject? Will they tell you the truth of what is going on?
There is too much things I don t like about Palin.... she was not called Sarah Barracuda sine H.S for her kindness................
Paproudmom- please do that then. I have looked through all your posts on this page, and all of them have been snide comments bashing the person before you. It is nasty. We have all gotten nasty on this page- you have taken your cold shots at me and I have at you- so fine, lets put it aside. You are saying you are an intelligent woman who supports Palin- but I do not get it. So I mean this, sincerely, really, really sincerely, please tell me why you support her. I really do want to know- and I promise you there is nothing sinister in my tone right now. I just want to understand. I think a lot of people in this country want to understand right now. Because the country is split right. And as you have said multiple times today- liberal, in a nasty, condescending, and sorry to say, a little immature tone- you are right, I am- and I do not get it, so please- what am I missing about this person. Please do not attack Obama, or Biden, and lets keep McCain out of this right now- what am I missing about Sarah Palin.
I'm an Obama supporter and am an intelligent, successful woman, as are many of my friends. Sweeping statements on either side of the fence are always ignorant. I don't think anyone can say Palin isn't intelligent because she is, she's just not used to being in this type of intense spotlight and gets flustered at times. I don't agree with a lot of her views and therefore don't support her, but I do have respect for her. Before you make generalizing statements about the intelligence of Obama supporters, please look to your own party, too. There are stupid people on both sides. Stupid people are the ones who vote for the party, not the candidate. Stupid people are the ones who vote based on race or gender. Stupid people are the ones who don't carefully listen to the plans of each candidate, but vote for someone because he's black, or because she's a woman, or because they've always voted Dem or Repub.
I agree. But Palin is not that bright.
All the "political acumen" aside, Sarah Palin remains vapid, manipulative, divisive, disengenuous, and terribly arrogant. Whether male or remale, being the owner of those characteristics ought to disqualify anyone from holding the office of vice president of the United States. For her to presume qualification for that office is laughable. For her to have been catapulted to candidacy for that office speaks volumes about the party that chose her.
She is certainly all of the adjectives that Dee Dee Myers used to describe as her ability to connect with voters but, she also lacks substance. The ability to use words to describe her understanding of the job she's seeking. I don't care that she uses folksie words and I too know how it feels to juggle it all, it's her inability to showcase a clear understanding of the problems we face and her vision of where she wants to take us. It's not enough to judge other's as less than competent or un-american, I have yet to know what she's all about.
She's not well educated. A bachelor's degree from 6 schools in 5 years in Journalism does not meetr the requirements of being vice president. I'm sorry--it just doesn't. She is not self educated, either. All she is s a good speaker. It is depressing to see anyone taken in by that. She did a disservice to her country by accepting the nomination. She has hurt the Republicans in terms of sheer numbers. She has only energized a reactionary base that would have voted for McCain anyway. She was an incredibly bad choice. She s a paen to blind ambition.
I find Sarah Palin to be intelligent and educated, but she uses teenage type slang when she's talking and I cannot envision her talking to a head of state from another country. She seems to do well when scripted, but it's obvious that she doesn't without the script unless it's Obama bashing. I don't care if whe has 5 children and the latest one with diabilities. Maybe she needs to stay home like a good mother and home school her children. Her own personal record seems blemished to me Maybe she should get the logjam out of her own eye before she asks Obama to get the spec out of his!
Posted by: carolinagal
Comment: Please spare me Sarah Palin. She seems well educated and intelligent, but wily! She does well from scripts, bu why does she have to use teeny bopper lingo such as "don'tcha, won'tch gotcha, Joe six pack, etc. It is beyond imagination to think of her addressing a head of state from another country. She is a Governor, who can't even speak proper English. So what if she has 5 children. Evidently they haven't meant as much to her as climbing the ranks of governmental positions. She is so nasty in her remarks about Barack Obama, but I'm sure that is easy for her based on her record in Alaska She better get the logjam out of her eye before she tries to get the spec out of Obama's
I can't believe that we are still hearing the nonsense that Obama is getting a free pass from the media because the media calls McCain/Palin on the lies that they are saying - if you haven't noticed they point out Obama's inaccuracies as well. When you are telling rabid lies about someone, you should be called on it and McCain is doing that more and more. By hiding Palin away and not allowing her to give regular interviews the McCain team is telling us that she isn't qualified. When her interviews come off as disasters its because the media is treating her unfairly. When Biden has a gaffe they are doing a good job at showing his faults. Palin saying that the the interviews she had didn't give her a chance to "speak to the American people" was a cop out. She didn't like it because they didn't let her slip away from the questions the way she was able to in the debate. Giving the answers you know, rather than the answer to the question asked of you isn't speaking to the people, it's dodging the question when you don't know the answer. That's not a media bias for Obama, or against Palin because she is female. As women we need to demand equal treatment, which means that we don't cry unfair when the media asks questions that they would ask a man. Asking questions about Palin's pregnant daughter is unacceptable and yet it is all right, somehow, to tie Michelle Obama to Ayers because she worked at the same law firm as Ayers wife, even though there are more than 500 employees and no indication that they knew each other. How can one be an unfair attack and the other a legitimate look into "the character" of the candidate.
Treat Palin the same way you would any other candidate. If you do that you come back with one simple answer, this person is not qualified to be Vice-President much less President of the United States. If a man cited being able to see Russia from Alaska as a candidate they would be laughed out of the race. Equality means equal and that's what I want for Sarah Palin.
Another accurate description of Palin
French film legend-turned-activist Brigitte Bardot took a swipe at Sarah Palin on Tuesday, saying the US vice presidential candidate was a disgrace to women.
"I hope you lose these elections because that would be a victory for the world," Bardot wrote in an open letter to Republican John McCain's running mate in the November vote.
"By denying the responsibility of man in global warming, by advocating gun rights and making statements that are disconcertingly stupid, you are a disgrace to women and you alone represent a terrible threat, a true environmental catastrophe," wrote Bardot.
The screen icon from the 1960s, who now heads an animal rights foundation, went on to assail Palin for supporting Arctic oil exploration that could jeopardize delicate animal habitats and for dismissing measures to protect polar bears.
"This shows your total lack of responsibility, your inability to protect or simply respect animal life," Bardot wrote.
In a final salvo against Palin, the 74-year-old ex-star picked up on Palin's depiction of herself as a pitbull wearing lipstick and said she "implored" her not to compare herself to dogs.
"I know them well and I can assure you that no pitbull, no dog, nor any other animal for that matter is as dangerous as you are," Bardot wrote.
You need to do better than this nut case.
On 10 June 2004 Bardot was convicted by a French court of "inciting racial hatred" and fined 5,000 ???, the fourth such conviction/fine she has received from French courts. The courts cited passages where Bardot referred to the "Islamisation of France" and the "underground and dangerous infiltration of Islam". Bardot's book also attacked "the mixing of genes" and compared her beliefs with previous generations who had "given their lives to push out invaders".In 2008, she was convicted of inciting racial/religious hatred in relation to a letter she wrote, a copy of which she sent to Nicolas Sarkozy when he was Interior Minister of France. The letter stated her objections to Muslims in France ritually slaughtering sheep by slitting their throats without stunning them first. She also objected to France's rapidly growing Muslim community trying to take over France and impose their culture, values, lifestyles etc. on France and its native people. The trial concluded on 3 June 2008, with a conviction and fine of fifteen thousand Euros, the largest of her fines to date. The prosecutor stated that she was tired of charging Bardot with offences related to racial hatred.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brigitte_Bardot
Yeah, but her opinion is accurate and funny.
So you put stock in the comments of a racist? Why am I not surprised.
Bardot is a racist! Wow. Did she tell you that? I heard she only buys brown dogs - but who knew. Oh here's one for you: Don't call me a racist because I'm not voting for McCain.
Read the last line of my post. And IF you read carefully I didn't referr to you as a racist, idiot maybe but not a racist. I said you were taking the WORD of a racist.
LET S INVESTIGATE THIS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
???My government is my worst enemy. I???m going to fight them with any means at hand.???
"The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government and I won't be buried under their damn (American) flag."
Vogler, who always carried a Magnum with him, was fond of saying, ???When the [federal] bureaucrats come after me, I suggest they wear red coats. They make better targets. In the federal government are the biggest liars in the United States, and I hate them with a passion.
The violent-tempered secessionist vowed to McPhee that if any federal official tried to stop him from polluting Alaska???s rivers with his earth-moving equipment, he would ???run over him with a Cat and turn mosquitoes loose on him while he dies.???
The quotes are from Joe Vogler, the raging anti-American who founded the Alaska Independence Party. Inconveniently for Palin, that???s the very same secessionist party that her husband, Todd, belonged to for seven years and that she sent a shout-out to as Alaska governor earlier this year. (???Keep up the good work,??? Palin told AIP members. ???And God bless you.???)
AIP chairwoman Lynette Clark told me recently that Sarah Palin is her kind of gal. ???She???s Alaskan to the bone ??? she sounds just like Joe Vogler.???
Vogler???s greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States ???tyranny??? before the entire world and to demand Alaska???s freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue. (yes you read well IRAN!!!)
Let s investigate the Palins ties with the secessionist Alaskan Independence Party...............
(full article on salon.com)
Sure why not. While your at it please look into:
1. Barack Obama attended and participated in meetings of the Chicago New Party and the Chicago DSA, the local affiliate of the Democratic Socialists of America.
2. Barack Obama sought the endorsement of the Chicago DSA which required rigorous scrutiny by the party???s Political Committee as well as Mr. Obama???s signature on a contract promising ???a visible and active relationship with the NP.???
3. Barack Obama actively used the endorsement from the Chicago DSA.
4. Barack Obama won his DSA-endorsed and -backed campaign to secure his seat in the Illinois State Senate.
5. Barack Obama continued his involvement with the Chicago DSA ??? including directly asking the group to join ???his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration??? ??? and received their endorsements in subsequent campaigns.
But you're lying - again. Without conscience. Stupid lies too.
Where's the lie? Or do you just keep your head in the sand?
http://www.aim.org/aim-column/obamas-international-socialist-connections/
Secondly, the NP's '96 Political Program has been enormously successful with 3 of 4 endorsed candidates winning electoral primaries. All four candidates attended the NP membership meeting on April 11th to express their gratitude. Danny Davis, winner in the 7th Congressional District, invited NPers to join his Campaign Steering Committee. Patricia Martin, who won the race for Judge in 7th Subcircuit Court, explained that due to the NP she was able to network and get experienced advice from progressives like Davis. Barack Obama, victor in the 13th State Senate District, encouraged NPers to join in his task forces on Voter Education and Voter Registration. The lone loser was Willie Delgado, in the 3rd Illinois House District. Although Delgado received 45% of the vote, he lost by only 800 votes. Delgado commented that it was due to the NP volunteers that he carried the 32nd Ward. Delgado emphasized that he will remain a visible community activist in Humbolt Park. He will conduct four Immigration workshops and encouraged NP activists to get involved.
http://www.chicagodsa.org/ngarchive/ng47.html
While you are there too:
Rolling Stone Magazine: Make believe Maverick, A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty.
By TIM DICKINSON
http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain?commentPage=8#rate
Keep reading for McCain:
- Keating Five, just google it , there are tons to read and see....
- McCain linked to group in Iran-Contra case. Organization had ties to former Nazi collaborators, right wing death squads: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/
- McCain & Pastor John Hagee, just google it , there are tons to read and see....
- McCain ties with Gordon Liddy : <http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004>
- The Silver State bank and the role of McCain???s son, google it.....
At least Obama could walk up to the WH his head held high not trailing mud......
DEMOCRATS!!!!!!!!! ANYTHING TO SAY ABOUT NEOCONS POST???
REALLY?
NOTE THE CRICKETTS CHIRPING............
to fccFH - I see a reformer in Palin. I see someone not afraid to say the truth. I see someone who is tough - you have to be to have 5 children and the career she has had. I see a moral person - yes but who makes mistakes. I see someone who can open the door from women. I see someone who is from the middle class and understands them. To help someone you have to understand them. Of course I could list all the republican values that she holds that I agree with. I see a love of country. I see someone who is not a consummate or programmed polititican (I am sick of those types). I believe she is a quick study. No one coming in the presidency can know everything. Will they surround themselves with smart people and do they have the right instincts. I say yes she will and does. I see someone who does not take a poll and check with what the media thinks to form her opinions. I like her energy policies. I believe that though she has some conservative values that others may not like that she knows the difference between what believes and what is constitutional. I could go on and on. I see a leader. I do not believe she is a continuation of Bush. I am disappointed in his performance. I do not believe she will be a repeat of Bush. I too looked back over the posts and mine have been mild in comparison too most of the ones this blog. Probably nothing I say will convince you and I am really not trying to. Everyone makes up his or her own mind. I am sincere in my beliefs and want the best for this country. I just disagree that Obama/Biden is the answer.
I respect your position. I highly disagree with it, but I am sure you do not care, and quite frankly it does not matter. Looking at the polls half this country disagrees with the other, so this is nothing new. And while you may feel your comments are mild, and while you may feel my comments are harsh, I think we all need to put it in perspective, because I do see it the other way around. But here is my issue with everything being said on this site, by everyone, including us: you only attack the people that have differing views than you, and I only attack the people that have differing views than me. But I think for both of us, we know it is just words. There are some people on this site that are taking it to such an extreme, and in addition to people on this site, when you factor in the people that scream Kill Him or terrorist at a rally, not only am I bothered by the fact that this country is being mislead by McCain and Palin (because however much they do not like him, and however much people in this country hate him, he really is not a terrorist in anyway, if that had been the case he never would have been elected senator), but what really scares me, is that in the event he is elected president, something may happen akin to JFK. I see hate and ferocity on this site that I have never seen before. I feel that, and may be wrong, that from the democratic perspective, the slanderous words we say are not so much to diminish those that disagree with us, but are actually spoken out of fear. I know that I fear that this hate that has been pouring out of some peoples mouths can lead to something much more serious, as it has happened before. The rhetoric spoken on this site against Obama is far worse than Bush, and he was the greatest disaster in American history, and that is a strongly held republican and democratic thought. I think that it is imperative that the way McCain and Palin are directing people to think about Obama is completely inappropriate and people need to rethink it. They need to step back from McCains ads and speeches and just think for themselves. If they do not like Obamas policies, that is fine, but attack him on that, and not on the petty lies that are being spread by his opponent. People on this site need to think before they type. The reasons you gave for not liking Obama make sense- as a democrat I think differently, but your reasoning is traditional republican candor- fine, but when people attack Obama calling him a terrorist or a socialist, it simply is not true and that needs to be addressed.
GREAT COMMENT
AMEN!!! Thank you for explaining the fear that has been in my heart for the past week Both Obama and McCain are equally worthy of being treated with respect; if for no other reason that they both were elected to positions that are worthy of respect. Neither deserves the hatemongering that has been on display at the McC/Palin rallies this past week. ALL American should be offended by it. (I just heard that McC just said something about that issue, finally!)
When you say you see a "reformer in Palin", given her past five days - you're not credible. All of us know that we can't "change" your type of mind because you ignore the reports, the facts, the media, the outcry and what you see with your own eyes. So, don't be condescending to us - we know who you are. We know the kind of campaign McCain is running, and if you condone it, you're not worth it.
Wait...Dee Dee Meyers, Bay Buchanan and Arianna Huffington are Americas smartest women? They are political operatives. But it would be interesting to do a story like this with Americas smartest women
Sarah Palin is either truly deperate or truly despicable. Not only do they decide to associate Obama with Ayers, with whom Obama has had limited contact, but Palin has also decided to attack Obama's middle name. In addition to attacking Obama, Palin demonizes anyone with a "funny" name, like Hussein and anyone who happens to be a Muslim. Understandably, as a native of Wasilla, Alaska, Palin does not know much about the rest of the world.
Therefore, she does not understand that Hussein is one of the most common names in world. In fact, Hussein was the surname of one of my students, a wonderful, diligent, graceful young lady. Her father, Mr. Hussein, was a concerned, loving, supportive parent who often checked in with me to find out his daughter was doing in my class. As a public employee, I did not investigate Mr. Hussein's religious beliefs. However, if I were apply the precepts of the Book of James in the Bible, which measures faith by works or deeds, I have to say Mr. Hussein's religious beliefs (or lack thereof) were far more worthy of God that the nonsensical claptrap which produced an ignorant bigot like Sarah Palin.
Beyond maligning people's names, Palin and McCain are attacking the loyalty and patriotism of millions of American Muslims, some of whom are serving our country in Iraq and Afghanistan. Once it becomes acceptable to defame Muslims, it becomes acceptable to defame Jews, gays, African Americans, Latinos... The anti-Islamic fervor of McCain and Palin's campaign reminds me of the anti-Semitism of Central Europe in the 1930's. And increasingly, a McCain rally resemble the cross-burning rallies of Ku Klux Klan, and probably Palin in particular attracts her share of Klansmen.
McCain and Palin are not merely anti-American. They are assaulting the very principles and ideals that this country represents. They are a disgrace to America. Every member of the Republican party, as well as their apologists in the media, should hang their heads in shame.
Sarah Palin is a character straight out of Margaret Atwood's book, The Handmaid's Tale, down to her hysterical urging of right wing women to fear Obama and Biden, who have worked to advance women's rights.
She is a true sociopath and Manchurian candidate who could not have been created more perfect in Karl Rove's darkest, most sinister misogynist dreams.
Sarah Palin is a character straight out of Margaret Atwood's book, The Handmaid's Tale, down to her hysterical urging of right wing women to fear Obama and Biden, who have worked to advance women's rights.
She is a true sociopath and Manchurian candidate who could not have been created more perfect in Karl Rove's darkest, most sinister misogynist dreams.
Sarah Palin cannot possibly be considered a feminist. A product of feminism, perhaps, but not a feminist. She has taken everything that the Women's Movement struggled to achieve - stood on the shoulders of giants, you might say - and then spit on women everywhere once she gained power. She would happily have the women of this country lose their right to bodily integrity, would take away our choice as well as our hard-won reproductive health-care benefits, and would probably charge us for our rape-kits in the process (as she did to the women of Wasilla when she was mayor). If she didn't have two x-chromosomes, no one would ever consider her a feminist. (And yes, men *can* be feminists.) The fact that she is a woman and has power in no way qualifies her as a feminist. A monkey may use a typewriter, but that doesn't make him Shakespeare.
I am a man. I was offended by the SEXISM of DeeDee Myers who said: "If she'd been allowed to work as governor of Alaska, stand for re-election, maybe be involved in something like the National Governors Association, travel around the country, travel around the world a little bit, develop a world view that's more clearly thought through than the one she has now, she could have been a formidable candidate. And she may still be. But as it stands right now, to say that Barack Obama is no more qualified than Sarah Palin is laughable in my view."
Yet this very smart woman does not say: "If HE'D been allowed to work as SENATOR FOR ILLINOIS, stand for re-election, maybe be involved in something like the DEMOCRATIC NATIONAL COMMITTEE, travel around the country BETWEEN LARGE CITIES, travel around the world a little bit, develop a world view that's more clearly thought through than the one HE has now, HE could have been a GOOD candidate. And HE may still be. But as it stands right now, to say that SARAH PALIN is no more qualified than BARACK OBAMA is laughable in my view."
The difference between Palin and Obama is that Obama has been running (and being vetted) for the past two years!! By her own admission Palin has been running for the past 5 weeks (and was vetted by McCain during a 15 minute meeting on exactly 1 occasion). Since she wasn't vetted by McC, somebody's got to do it. Yet she refuses to be interviewed by anyone except Fixed Noise kool-aid drinkers. To me it sounds like she's too afraid to be ... like someone just may discover the truth; that she's just not ready.
That's a very BIG difference between the two...
The Woman thing bothers me. Who cares? I want someone who is honest, above board, experienced and capable. Palin is only capable. She is capable of exagerating experince like no one I ever hired. But I cannot call someone honest who says she is a straight talker and then twists the truth about things like "putting America first" as an advocate of Alaskan secession even as governor, or says she opposed pork like the Bridge to Nowhere and campaigned on it, built the Road to the Bridge to Nowhere, as mayor hired a WDC lobbyist to pull pork for Wasilla, and so forth and so on. This person, whether male, morphidite or female, whether white or blue or black, is just plain not qualified. Only only has to look at factcheck.com and read a bit to know that. We have been hoodwinked on this person, for whatever reason.
As a woman I have to say Sarah Palin is a disgrace to women. The fact that she has to resort to idiotic gestures like flirtatiously winking is an embarrassment to our sex. Men do not resort to such trivial things, and I'm embarrassed that someone who has made it by chance so far into politics has made a mockery of the strength that women attempt to stand for every day with out resorting to such asinine gestures such as winking and silly soundbytes.
I could not agree more, this is HER JOB INTERVIEW for the second top job in the land! A professional woman do not behave that way, you may find that kind of approach for an adult bar kind of job. She is NOT presidential, far from it!!!!
The Woman thing bothers me. Who cares? I want someone who is honest, above board, experienced and capable. Palin is only capable. She is capable of exagerating experince like no one I ever hired. But I cannot call someone honest who says she is a straight talker and then twists the truth about things like "putting America first" as an advocate of Alaskan secession even as governor, or says she opposed pork like the Bridge to Nowhere and campaigned on it, built the Road to the Bridge to Nowhere, as mayor hired a WDC lobbyist to pull pork for Wasilla, and so forth and so on. This person, whether male, morphidite or female, whether white or blue or black, is just plain not qualified.
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