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  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/10/2008 9:22:53 AM

    The Palins??? un-American activities - Part II
    Vogler wasn???t just a blowhard either. He put his secessionist ideas into action, working to build AIP membership to 20,000 ??? an impressive figure by Alaska standards ??? and to elect party member Walter Hickel as governor in 1990.
    Vogler???s greatest moment of glory was to be his 1993 appearance before the United Nations to denounce United States ???tyranny??? before the entire world and to demand Alaska???s freedom. The Alaska secessionist had persuaded the government of Iran to sponsor his anti-American harangue.
    That???s right ??? Iran. The Islamic dictatorship. The taker of American hostages. The rogue nation that McCain and Palin have excoriated Obama for suggesting we diplomatically engage. That Iran.
    AIP leaders allege that Vogler, who was murdered that year by a fellow secessionist, was taken out by powerful forces in the U.S. before he could reach his U.N. platform. ???The United States government would have been deeply embarrassed,??? by Vogler???s U.N. speech, darkly suggests Clark. ???And we can???t have that, can we????
    The Republican ticket is working hard this week to make Barack Obama???s tenuous connection to graying, ???60s revolutionary Bill Ayers a major campaign issue. But the Palins??? connection to anti-American extremism is much more central to their political biographies.
    Imagine the uproar if Michelle Obama was revealed to have joined a black nationalist party whose founder preached armed secession from the United States and who enlisted the government of Iran in his cause? The Obama campaign would probably not have survived such an explosive revelation. Particularly if Barack Obama himself was videotaped giving the anti-American secessionists his wholehearted support just months ago.
    Where???s the outrage, Sarah Palin has been asking this week, in her attacks on Obama???s fuzzy ties to Ayers? The question is more appropriate when applied to her own disturbing associations.

  • Posted By: Babe @ 10/10/2008 9:09:35 AM

    This article is a commentary on what America's smartest women think.....what an overstatement! The article falls short. We are hungry for real thinking. We do not need fluff put out by writers looking for their 25cents a word. Where are America's smart women? Where are our smart men?...I guess they are too busy working to pay attention to what is happening. I am confident that someone will emerge that we can look up to..every generation has a hero. Who is it?

    • Posted By: EthanHusseinWyatt @ 10/10/2008 9:22:38 AM

      I agree totally. This article was pathetic. I am very interested in what America's brightest women in politics, business, and academia all think, but this article falls flat. Shame on you newsweek... guess I'll go see what's on Time's website.

  • Posted By: jlp001 @ 10/10/2008 9:20:16 AM

    There are many smart and successful women who do not identify with Palin. I feel no sort of sisterhood with a woman who exploits her attractiveness and whose key political gains have been accomplished through backstabbing and power abuse. The example set by Palin has been humiliating, to say the least, for women who want to be treated as absolute equals. I have no sympathy for her. The criticisms of her and by and large deserved.

  • Posted By: junkmail6 @ 10/10/2008 9:01:47 AM

    I feel sorry for Sarah Palin to some extent. McCain made a jaded choice, trying to appeal to peoples' emotions. There are other women more fully qualified he could have picked. Palin appears to be intelligent and tough, but she is obviously not ready for the national scene. I think she was doing well for Alaska; hopefully, she will be able to go back there and build on her career.
    As for those who claim that an "ordinary" person couldn't do any worse, I say: I've been watching the Colts (football team) for a month. They look awful. But "Joe Six-Pack" wouldn't last one play standing in for any of the players. Sending in someone unqualified is just stupid, and things can get a LOT worse. Obama lacks experience as well, McCain is living in the past, and I don't know what I think about Lieberman, but Palin isn't in their league. Yet.

  • Posted By: changeiscoming @ 10/10/2008 7:11:03 AM

    Yeah, she may be a "great" politician, but she's just not VP material. She's making the women in America look stupid. How is a foreign leader going to take this woman seriously when she winks at him, they will probably look at her like an American prostitute, especially in the Arab nations. Just a wink, blink, and a nod to get us into trouble.

    • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/10/2008 8:39:55 AM

      I would rather have Palin wink at the moderator of a debate than have Obama WINKING at his predator TERRORIST PERPETRATORS who have sent us this PLANT from the beginning and who are frothing at the mouth in waiting for his election!
      PLANT, PLANT, PLANT...... this man is a PLANT!!!!!

      • Posted By: jath123 @ 10/10/2008 8:52:34 AM

        He's a plant! A mole! He's the manchurian candidate! Aaaaaaaaaahhhhh!!! We're all gonna DIE!!!! Aaaaaaaaahhhhh!!!!! The terrorsts and 1960's hippies are gonna kill us all!!!! LOL.

        The most commonly shared characteristic of American "conservatives" is body paralyzing fear. Quit peeing your pants and man-up already. If we can survive 12 years of a Republican congress (sorry about not being able to undo the damage in 2 years with a Dem congress) and 8 years of GWB, we can survive just about anything. Oh, and one more thing...

        BOO!

        • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/10/2008 9:01:14 AM

          No, sweetheart, the phrase is
          BOO HOO
          when you get your boy in empowerment

  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/10/2008 8:57:40 AM

    PLEASE TAKE A LOOK AT:
    Palin s model for debate: BUSH! From Countdown MSNBC Oct, 3-08
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_f_SmsXgzvg

    Rolling Stone Magazine: Make believe Maverick, A closer look at the life and career of John McCain reveals a disturbing record of recklessness and dishonesty.
    By TIM DICKINSON
    http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain?commentPage=8#rate

    If Palin wants to play guilt by association , let s compare:
    * Video: Sarah Palin addresses the Alaska Independence Party convention.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZwvPNXYrIyI

    * Article
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php#more
    I strongly suggest everyone go to:
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/
    Also google for Palin & mentor Pastor Thomas Muthee, witchcraft ritual and who is Mr. Muthee. Here is one: http://irregulartimes.com/index.php/archives/2008/09/15/sarah-palin-and-the-thomas-muthee-witch-hunt/
    For McCain:
    - Keating Five, just google it , there are tons to read and see....
    - McCain linked to group in Iran-Contra case. Organization had ties to former Nazi collaborators, right wing death squads: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27062761/
    - McCain & Pastor John Hagee, just google it , there are tons to read and see....
    - McCain ties with Gordon Liddy : <http://mediamatters.org/items/200810040004>
    - The Silver State bank and the role of McCain???s son, google it.....

    HOLD YOUR HATS and more....... We the people will get the true truth about McCain and Palin.
    Obama will stay on message and issues, at a crisis time when 90 years old lady shot herself rather than leaving her home due to foreclosure and a desperate father kills all family and self WHILE McCain and Palin spew their venom!...they are so-called religious but the sin of lies, blasphemy is not in their Bible.....

    At least Obama could walk up to the WH his head held high not trailing mud......

    Feel free to re-post.




  • Posted By: C. MacLean @ 10/10/2008 1:00:46 AM

    I'm sorry, but neither Hilary Clinton or Sarah Palin is all that impressive, and I don't think they got kicked around by the media any more than the male politicians have. The topics may be a little different, but swift boating John Kerry or talking about John McCain's adopted daughter were rotten, dirty tactics that make sniping about hair and cleavage ridiculous by comparison.

    And let's remember before we get all worked up over 'bimbo' that there have been plenty of snide remarks about Bush being a village idiot, and Dan Quayle as well - gender has no lock on disparging comments.

    If as women we are rallying around Clinton and Palin because we see ourselves as victims and somehow see victim status in these two women, we haven't grasped what feminism is really about.

    Women are not going to be taken seriously in the work place or in the political arena until we stop embracing the victim role and start embracing an empowerment role. Nobody cares that we have to juggle job and career, nobody is interested in our whining that the media isn't fair. That isn't news, and we need to get over it.

    Fighting for better treatment of women - and by extension children - can only be done from a position of strength. We would be better served by focusing on how we can improve the world going forward, not on how crummy it's been.

    Sisterhood is all well and good, but it's time we started focusing on peoplehood.

    • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/10/2008 8:46:29 AM

      Hillary and Sarah are not picked on by the media? Oh brother!
      When Hillary ''almost'' broke down and just cracked her voice, they were ALL OVER HER!
      When Biden ''broke down'' talking in the debate about his family, everyone hailed him for his CREDIBILITY and COMPASSION and BELIEVABILITY.
      Give me a break!
      Double standards, double standards, double standards.....
      What BULL fills your heart!

  • Posted By: varacefan @ 10/10/2008 8:46:24 AM

    Many in our country have gotten so desperate that they will put their hope in someone who tells them what they want to hear. Sort of like that loan officer that burried you. Sort of like that payday lender who robbed you blind. Sort of like that cell phone salesperson who shot you that line and yes like that lover that said I'm clean. You never learn!

  • Posted By: Babe @ 10/10/2008 8:42:45 AM

    knowthefacts cannot construct a sentence and expects us to take their judgment seriously. These Obama supporters with their warped thinking is what scares me. What kind of administration would he have, surrounded by all these weirdos. As for lying...how about counting up all the lies we have heard from Joe Biden?

  • Posted By: knowthefacts @ 10/10/2008 8:10:14 AM

    WHILE I DON'T CARE MUCH ABOUT SEN.CLINTON, THIS SARAH PALIN, IS NO HILLARY PERIOD. SEN.CLINTON, IS MUCH SMARTER THAN PALIN, GOV.PALIN IS DUMB AND THATS A FACT. SHE CAN'T EVEN ANSWER SIMPLE QUESTION DURING AN INTERVIEW. HOW IN THE HELL SHE BECAME A GOV.?
    SO MUCH FOR THE PEOPLE IN ALASKA, THE McFOOL CAMPAIGN, DON'T EVEN TRUST HER ENOUGH TO HAVE ANOTHER INTERVIEW.
    SHE DON'T SPEAK FOR THE BEST OF WHAT WOMEN HAVE TO OFFER. SHE IS STUPID, PLAIN AND SIMPLE!

    • Posted By: benluclar @ 10/10/2008 8:23:56 AM

      As are you, read your English and weep

  • Posted By: DoRight @ 10/10/2008 5:39:49 AM

    Palin has been engaged in full-on mean-spirited hate-mongering, and is as comfortable with repeating obvious lies as she is with her femininity. Why is this aspect of her character left out of the discussion by these bright minds? Or is what a person actually does irrelevant to her femininity?

    • Posted By: wearefla @ 10/10/2008 6:53:43 AM

      Agreed, America needs and deserves our best and brightest to lead us. Labels and ideologies are great for politicians, journalists and authors who need sound bites and sensationalism to hawk their wares. Are we ever going to get truth and honor in a presidential campaign? When is the role of the VP become attack parrot? The mud slinging, name calling and obvious lies really turn me off. I've supported McCain since 2000, told a focus group last year he was my pick for POTUS. The straight talk express really went off the rails when it hit Palin. If she's a good example of a feminist, we don't need that one in a position of power. I'll vote for a POTUS/VP who exhibits intelligence and a grasp of reality, knowledge of both history and current events concerning our country and the world, woman or man, even if I don't agree with all their talking points. With all respect for Sen. McCain and his service to our country and Gov Palin and her service to Alaska, I don't see the qualities we desperately need for the office.

  • Posted By: Anju Chandel @ 10/10/2008 2:31:53 AM

    India and America both are democracies: the former the largest (in terms of population) and the latter the oldest; both democracies are flawed in certain respects still both have worked and will continue to do so.

    However, one of teh fundamental differences in political landscape of bothe the democratic countries is in treating their "female" politicians. In America, a female is a female and will remain a female, perhaps, forever. Whereas, in India, a politician is a politician and will remain a politician forever, regardless of the gender.

    In contemporary India, prime minister Indira Gandhi was a Iron Lady and the strongest political leader India ever had so far but there was never any issue about her gender. Similarly, Sonia Gandhi, an Italian by birth and Christian by faith, is the president of the largets political party - Indian National Congress - and again, nobody ever talked about her being a female. The chief minister of the largest state (province) of India is again a woman and that too from a Dalit - untouchable - family; ask anybody if her gender ever became an issue in India.

    There are many other strong female political leaders and Indians are absolutely comfortable with them.

    Why Americans get all worked up with such a trivial issue of seeing any politician with a different chromosome composition i.e. XX and not XY?

    Grow up guys!

  • Posted By: kimme051 @ 10/10/2008 1:47:21 AM

    Beautiful description of Sara and her situation. A couple of things, Sara wasn't ready. Sara was really scary with her viewpoint and track record. Another female politician who was ready would have not got the same treatment. Last with the blues and the media against Mc and still the battle close, it says that about 45 % of the population is redneckselfishscareyjesusohmygodisthatscary. No wonder the word hates us. We're kind of

  • Posted By: kimme051 @ 10/10/2008 1:39:42 AM

    Beautiful insights on Sara...I think we went after her because she scared us. All that moxie, all that ignorant justified neo stuff. No way would one of the alternate Repub female politicians have caused all this flack for herself...the media is against Mc the blues are against him (is this still the civilA war still fought about slavery? I can't be fooled by the Repub switch of sides..) All this plus a poorly presented campaign on Mc"s part and look at

  • Posted By: gaypastor @ 10/10/2008 1:12:38 AM

    To C. MacLean: I think we should focus on "peoplehood" too! Let's start by recognizing that over half of the people of America are not male while our U.S. government is still mostly male!

  • Posted By: gaypastor @ 10/10/2008 1:10:23 AM

    Its women like Arianna Huffington that has kept any women in the White House since the first one tried -when was that again...oh yeah - back in 1892!!!! Failure is part of life...blah, blah, blah!!!

  • Posted By: expatincebu @ 10/09/2008 10:56:39 PM

    PLEASE, Palin is a total moron. If you think otherwise then you are a moron. Consider this. You will find it hard to follow. Because it is not in English; it is in Palinese:

    "That's what I say that I like every American I am speaking with we're ill about this position that we been put in where it is taxpayers looking to bailout, but ultimately what the bailout does is help those who are concerned about the healthcare reform that is needed to help shore up our economy, um, helping the, oh, it's got to be all about job creation, too, shoring up our economy and, and, putting it back on the right track; so health care reform and reducing taxes and reigning in spending has got to accompany tax reductions and tax relief for Americans and trade??? we have we got to see trade as an opportunity not as, a competitive, um, scary thing, but one in five jobs being created in the trade sector today, we we've got to look at that as more opportunity, all of those things under the umbrella of job creation, this bailout is part of that???"

    • Posted By: Mimi13 @ 10/10/2008 12:19:51 AM

      I agree. Every time I see her drag that poor baby out in the middle of the night and expose him to noise and crowds I cringe. She's been very cavalier with that baby since before he was born. What middle aged woman about to deliver a fifth child would risk a cross-continent flight in labor? Not one who really valued the life of her child, I think.

  • Posted By: America Wilson @ 10/10/2008 12:02:49 AM

    menonhere=mysogynists
    womenonhere=traditionalists
    go figure.
    No wonder why the states are so messed up and are not intelligent enough to evolve with the rest of the world.
    I can see the headline in 2040. America still behind the TIMES. No women for potus.

  • Posted By: America Wilson @ 10/10/2008 12:00:55 AM

    menonhere=mysogynists
    womenonhere=traditionalists
    go figure.
    No wonder why the states are so messed up and are not intelligent enough to evolve with the rest of the world.
    I can see the headline in 2040. America still behind the TIMES. No women for potus.

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