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  • Posted By: Stan505 @ 10/10/2008 8:33:33 PM

    Boy you Obama supporters are so trustiing. Your going to trust a man that comes from one of the most corrupt cities in the Unites States, Chicago led by argueabley the most corrupt part of the Democratic party Ilinois Democrats. Illinois politics is chuck full of corruption and Democrats control practically everything. Obama cuts his teeth in this enviroment utter corruption and you want him as President? Tony Rezko lives next door to him helps OBama helps him get his million dollar home. MIchelle OBama is on a Hospital board gets a big fat raise and low and behold an earmark for several million is given to the hospital from an earmark. Its sad that they hold off on Rezako's sentencing till after the election. Rezko's talking to the Feds and we won't be able to hear about what he has to say till after the election which is tottally wrong. If there's corruption on OBama lets hear not after the election. OBama has no experience in leadership or Foreign Policy and your worried about Palin. Pull the joint out of your mouths and wake up.

    • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/10/2008 8:37:01 PM

      Another sock-puppet? Keep the smears coming. It only hurts McCains numbers with independents.

      http://www.fightthesmears.com

      • Posted By: ttmlawman @ 10/10/2008 10:01:28 PM

        "Pull the joint out of your mouth and wake up." Maybe you should change your meds or use something new, like an intelligent thought!! We should assume Obama is corrupt because he is from an historically corrupt city (and, of course, that premise itself is a zinger). With that logic, well, most of us already get the point. Pass the joint or go to bed!!

        • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/13/2008 1:41:58 PM

          http://www.fightthesmears.com

      • Posted By: ttmlawman @ 10/10/2008 9:51:33 PM

        Wow!! Now we shouldn't trust a person from Chicago because of past corrupt bosses!! Get your history straight, at least. The corruption in that City was paralleled in every majot metropolitan area and it was usually money, big business, and the party of the monied (Can you guess which that would be?) that was at the epicenter of it all. I'm from Bismarck, North Dakota, a community that just 100 years ago was a cesspool of gambling, prostitution, and outlawry at its worst. Today, it is the cleanest, proudest area (government being its main focus) with the most honest, law-abiding citizenry you'll ever encounter. You don't even have to lock your doors as a general matter. Ya think Obama has demonstrated that he is not one of the old-guard, smoke-filled room corrupts. Give it up!! Who of us around this man's age did not take some rather liberal, even radical positions in the 60's and 70's? And the "red scare" tactics of the right with the worn out cry of "socialism = communism" is a sure-fire indication that they are getting desperate, and that is scary from a historical perspective: remember McCarthyism and the John Birch Society? Remember Bobby Kennedy and King? We need to be wary, and I am trying hrad not to be as paranoid as the paranoid!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Be Cool! McCain is a good man and we will need him with us to fight the economic war and the like. The cost of the "surge" is pretty obvious now but we all need to come together on a solution.

  • Posted By: ChandraSF @ 10/10/2008 8:33:47 PM

    The right wing kooks are using are using the same lines that their forefathers did to hang onto slavery, or to keep segregation. The Democrats never accused the Republican President and Congress in 2000 of taking this country to fascism, even though the kooks were not far off. I would like to see Republicans so demoralized over the next 8 years that they never recover for a long, long, cold, Alaskan winter. At least 40 years.

    • Posted By: tedhallett@paradisecommercial.org @ 10/10/2008 9:02:52 PM

      If you are going to discuss slavery get your facts right. It was the Republican party???s forefathers that moved to abolish slavery not the Democratic party. The Democratic party???s forefathers vigorously and often times violently apposed the abolishment of slavery.

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/10/2008 9:12:43 PM

        That was before the Republican Party endorsed racism. The two parties have actually switched ideologies since civil war times. Now, the Republicans have cornered the market on the racists. It's called their "southern strategy". Look it up on Wikipedia and become informed.

        • Posted By: tedhallett@paradisecommercial.org @ 10/10/2008 9:52:30 PM

          Enter Your CommentSee comment above that I was responding to. However I am a Republican and I do not support racism in way, shape or fashion. In fact the only candidates I have herd raise this issue is Obama and his wife. It is really to bad when so many of us live to cut this ignorance form our society only to have others to hang on to and promote it.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/13/2008 1:41:26 PM

            The Republican Party is the party of racism. I have not seen any Republican tell racists not to vote for them. They've benefited every election from the politics of division and hate even as they've learned to publicly distanced themselves from the sentiment. Thankfully, the Republicans will be done in by this. Their only hope was racism against Obama. However, the vast majority of the people who would not vote for a black man for president were already going to support the Republican nominee anyway.

        • Posted By: tedhallett@paradisecommercial.org @ 10/10/2008 10:08:41 PM

          The "Southern strategy" fortunately was eliminated in the late 90???s. You better do a little more studying my friend.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/13/2008 1:38:36 PM

            According to whom?

  • Posted By: ChandraSF @ 10/10/2008 8:43:47 PM

    Suddenly, the Republicans are interested in "character", after holding up a role model who lied about reasons to attack Iraq, lied about every budget since year 2001, lied to us in State of the union addresses, lied to us about torture, lied to us about the hit job at Dept of Justice (firing of qualified lawyers) and about ordering torture. Now, suddenly "character" is an important measure to Republicans. LOL

    • Posted By: jigganutts @ 10/10/2008 8:50:15 PM

      you are blaming it all on republicans. it was bush who did all that not the party. you're a bit confused

      • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/10/2008 9:01:44 PM

        Bush is the Republican party. The president is the de facto head of his party. Not only that, the Republican Congress he enjoyed for all but two of his eight years were a rubber stamp for him.

        • Posted By: The Republicrat @ 10/11/2008 10:18:19 AM

          Yea, and then the Democrats took control of congress and we all see how trhat has turned out. The party of Rangel, Pelosi, Frank, Biden and of course our very good friend Ted Kennedy.

          • Posted By: Johnsonium @ 10/13/2008 1:36:06 PM

            They don't have veto-proof majority nor a filibuster-proof majority in the Senate. That will all change when Obama gets in and they gain seats in Congress. At that point, the ball will be in their court to deliver the goods.

    • Posted By: John Dough @ 10/11/2008 1:43:44 AM

      Gee can anyone say Bill Clinton a perjurous liar who lied about everything including about lying

    • Posted By: Stan505 @ 10/10/2008 9:11:46 PM

      Dept of Justice lawyers being fired? Common practice, practiced by both parties. Actually Bush to his demise kept many Clinton appointed people in his goverment unlike Clinton who cleaned house on everything. Torture who cares ,your very ignorant of Islam's goal's.

      • Posted By: Braes @ 10/10/2008 10:38:59 PM

        The firings of prosecutors was in fact a violation of ethics. Monica Goodling was assigned to remove prosecutors that had poor production records in voter fraud cases, where no such fraud existed. In Bud Cummings case here in Arkansas, a good attorney was slandered, and I am talking about a Republican, Bud was an honest prosecutor who was willing to step aside to make room for Rove's choice, a man who was coming here to dig up stuff on the Clintons to use against her.
        You see, this Administration has left such an appaling trail of malfeasance as to be apparent to any that would look.
        Torture doesn't matter? I had to attend SERE school, my fellow citizen. As a United States flyer, I was tortured to teach us what to expect. They were kind to us compared to what has been done at Bagram, GITMO, and other 'black-sites.' All of these are violations of Geneva article 3. Even though the GOP controlled congress attempted to legalize this stuff on the way out in '06, that does not trump a ratified treaty. Any person who has comitted a violation of the laws of armed conflict are subject to prosecution.
        Any person all the way up the chain of command who has directed it, ot had a duty to prevent it is culpable of Command Responsibility for the acts. We hanged people after WWII for this. (See Yamashita Standard)
        Just because they got John Yoo to write some memo that they used to rationalize their behavior does not change the treaty, the law, or the precedence.
        War crimes will be prosecuted.

      • Posted By: rail60 @ 10/10/2008 9:42:28 PM

        "Torture, who cares"
        I CARE..I would prefer not to live in a police state. Not torturing people and respecting human rights has always been a fundamental principle US democracy. This is what seperates us from the tyranny of authoritarian or totalitarian states. The retard Dubya and anti-christ Cheney must have been absent when this was taught in grade school.

  • Posted By: joelpalmer @ 10/13/2008 12:55:02 PM

    Obama will win by more than 100 electoral votes and take around 52 percent of the poular vote. hee will alos get 61 democratice senate votes. We are about to see the beginning of the end of the Republican Party; destroyed by Reagan and two Bushes through sheer fiscal insanity (the free lunch "trickle down" theory and massive tax cuts for the rich financed by borrowing from the Chinese. The Republicans nearly surrendered the US to our enemies without a shot being fired

    • Posted By: neos @ 10/13/2008 1:09:54 PM

      Excellent post, but you forgot to mention the billions we have borrowed from the Saudis to enable us to buy their oil.

  • Posted By: dustytrails @ 10/13/2008 12:38:37 PM

    OBAMA IS UP IN MOST POLLS EXCEPT 1 I THINK AND THERE NOT EVEN POLLING THE YOUNG PEOPLE WHO MONLY USE CELL PHONES SO OBAMA SHOULD HAVE A BIGGER LEAD THAN THE POLLS SHOW

  • Posted By: newsweek is garbage @ 10/13/2008 11:53:27 AM

    I would hardly consider the new Newsweek poll a national legitimate poll. What a gaffe. I would like to know who does and how this polling is conducted. First off, Obama is not pulling away. By other legitimate polls he is only four to six points in the lead. We know Newsweek has a liberal agenda and that's why the magazine is going down in flames. Shame on Jonathan Darman, where does he get his information. Be a little more objective, Jonathan, instead of spreading lies and rumors. Newsweek needs to start from the ground up and begin again.

    • Posted By: Doc Howl @ 10/13/2008 12:01:56 PM

      Keep believing that. Everything will be fine. No, really. You should bury your head in the sand and keep repeating that the polls are all biased. Then, after November, you can complain that the American people are biased.

  • Posted By: gadfly55 @ 10/13/2008 5:39:58 AM

    At last, the color green flashes "go,go,go," as millions of Americans awaken to the costs of 28 years of Friedmanite economics and political manipulation by Atwater, Rove, and their acolytes and minions. Free at last, free at last, the progressive forces can heal the nation and bring it into the constructive diplomacy of cooperative nations rather than relentless exploitation and military adventures.

  • Posted By: deaneg63 @ 10/12/2008 9:35:22 AM

    I can't understand the American people they must like being kicked in the head. how can they even consider voting for a man with a name like Obama after 9/11. Oboma Binladin.

    • Posted By: electriceel883 @ 10/13/2008 1:18:07 AM

      Not vote for someone because of his name?? Then I won't vote for Bathroom McCain

  • Posted By: jeanrenoir @ 10/12/2008 12:56:34 PM

    It's too bad that it seems so often to take the threat of outright Depression to get Americans to vote against the fat cast and for their own economic interests by voting Democratic. If it hadn't been for the Depression, we probably never would have had a single Democratic president after Wilson left in 1920. And Wilson himself only won because of chaos in the Republican Party. Most Americans are deeply clueless about economics, history, foreign policy, you name it. No wonder they feel so at home with Sarah Palin, at least as a PTA president. We wouldn't be in the disastrous mess we find ourselves in in Iraq, in Afghanistan, and on Wall St. if the American public had not been so terminally stupid that it traded eight years of peace and prosperity under Clinton-Gore for eight years of war and economic disaster under Bush. This wasn't an act of God. it was an act of sheer voter stupidity. It is the American public which is responsible for everything which went wrong since 2000. They voted for the disasters when they voted so stupidly for Bush. Now they're dissatisfied. They should take a long, hard look in the mirror and get VERY dissatisfied with themselves. They're the ones who foisted this worst president in history on American and the world. It's THEIR fault, period.

    • Posted By: electriceel883 @ 10/13/2008 1:12:23 AM

      well, that and the fact that we have an electoral college, so a candidate with the majority of the vote doesn't get elected.

  • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 2:04:41 PM

    It's amazing that the left cries "it's only about the economy, character and judgment issues don't matter!"

    I don't agree. That said, consider that while George Bush and John McCain were introducing legislation years ago to avert the incredible financial crisis we're in, democrats Barney Frank and Chris Dodd were busy blocking it.... And Obama? He was "busy" writing his second memoir!

    - John McCain, in a 2005 Address to Congress:

    "I join as a cosponsor of the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190, to underscore my support for quick passage of GSE regulatory reform legislation. If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system, and the economy as a whole.

    I urge my colleagues to support swift action on this GSE reform legislation."

    And Obama's economic package is based on 95 percent of Americans getting a tax cut. How is this possible when the Tax Foundation says 40 percent of Americans pay no tax?

    If it's really about the economy, vote for McCain. He had the foresight and vision to try and stop the current mess we're in, and he has an understanding of who's taxes can actually be cut.

    http://webutante07.blogspot.com/2008/09/john-mccain-saw-freddiefannie-crisis.html

    • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 10/12/2008 5:49:47 PM

      PALL, SEEMS YOU'VE STIRRED UP THE NATIVES!!!!!! Wow, it's unusual to come on this site and find a VOICE OF REASON....thanks, I wa beginning to think I was the sole survivor!!! These people are so out of touch with the WORLD, that it is truly scary. ALL they see, is Osama's blackness, and nothing else matters. SO, you are definitely wasting your time....because all they have is persona insults and NO FACTS because they do not understand that AMERICA cannot fall into the hand of this guy with no credentials, no experience and especially no PATRIOTISM!!!!! John McCain is the poster boy for a TRUE PATRIOT...to understand the horror of what he went through in Vietnam and to no only survive, but to attempt to find other ways to serve should be inspirational to us all....McCain '08

      • Posted By: electriceel883 @ 10/13/2008 1:09:27 AM

        Cannot? That's what democracy is all about, a choice. And you don't seem to want to admit that there is one.

      • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 10/12/2008 10:37:05 PM

        http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1

        The article repigs do not want you to see

      • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 5:54:48 PM

        Non-partisan Veteran groups rate the candidates

        Iraq and Afghan Vets of America
        Obama B+
        McCain D

        Disabled Vets of America
        Obama 80%
        McCain 20%

        This PATRIOTIC vet is voting for Obama/Biden. Actions speak louder than words.

        • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 10/12/2008 5:59:58 PM

          YOU ARE AN OUTRIGHT LIAR,LIKE MOST OF THE BLOGGERS HERE....BUT YOU CANNOT SPEAK FOR THE GUYS SERVING THEIR COUNTRY VOLUNTARILY....What makes you assume that these guys are more anxious to go to Afghanistan and Africa,than they are to serve in Iraq, where're we're REALLY WINNING and the terrorist have run to Pakistan and Afghanistan...I come from a long line of military men, so you'd best not repeat your crap to some marine, sailor, or army ranger....You'll be picking your teeth up off the ground...IF YOU"RE LUCKY!!!!! and IF you have any teeth!!!!!!!!!!!!! McCain/Palin '08

          • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:07:01 PM

            Truth hurts doesn't it? Unlike the chickenhawks, Bush and Cheney our troops know where the real enemy is. Iraq was a foolish misadventure and has cost us dearly. John McCain has betrayed vets and they are NOT going to forget it.

            Now prove that i am a liar. Check The IAVA site or DAV site. But i warn you, that Hannity and Rush won't be there to spin the truth and you are not going to like it.

            • Posted By: Vypurr @ 10/12/2008 7:26:02 PM

              You seem to get in a lot of trouble with this neos.. just an observation.

              • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 8:27:24 PM

                The person who gets in trouble with this is McCain. Truth hurts, doesn't it.

            • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:26:02 PM

              So where did you serve? Or did you just COME from a long line of military men?

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 10/12/2008 10:36:52 PM

      http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1

      The article repigs do not want you to see

    • Posted By: marksgershenson @ 10/12/2008 3:49:13 PM

      Here you go McCain fans...http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/3

      Some interesting stuff. Its still the economy, regardless of how much you want to dis on each other.

  • Posted By: Margaret40 @ 10/12/2008 9:21:38 PM

    Qui parle francais ici?

    • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 10:57:26 PM

      je suis navré... J'ai fait une erreur, je parle un peu français.

    • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 10:53:32 PM

      Chacun d'entre nous. Tu veux dire qui parle français ici?

  • Posted By: ICYEYES800 @ 10/12/2008 6:06:08 PM

    HARLEY, HARLEY, HARLEY, You just continue to ignore my advice to see some mental health professional, you're getting further and further from REALITY!!!!! And those damn dreams...you know where you wake up in a wet bed and screaming for "MOMMY"!!!! I can see that it hasn't gotten better....your sexual frustrations are growing more and more apparent....Please for the love of GOD, get some help, then you can have a real girlfriend and the nighmares may stop.......McCain/Palin '08

    • Posted By: Right is RIGHT!!! @ 10/12/2008 10:37:37 PM

      http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/make_believe_maverick_the_real_john_mccain/page/1

      The article repigs do not want you to see

    • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 7:44:19 PM

      Harely is as sick as they come. He has a nasty habit of terrorizing and stalking people here, especially the women. She/he/it is really very disturbing.

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 8:24:44 PM

    Vets rate the candidates

    Obama B+
    McCain D

    http://www.iava.org/full-ratings-list
    http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3483

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/12/2008 7:59:26 PM

    This link of a CSPAN video clip may help set the context, as these hearings were at the time of McCains attempt at S.190.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    "Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis"

    • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 8:09:44 PM

      Said the public trust to Sarah Palin, 'I feel violated.'
      Repub apologists are quick to point out that her abuse of power wasn't illegal, just unethical.

      • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 8:21:43 PM

        The man she fired served her office at her pleasure. She had the right to do so.. The mistake she made was that this was also a family issue, and had it not been so we wouldn't be hearing about this.

        The trooper in question should have been fired without Palin's request... he had been arrested for drunk driving and had admittedly tasered a ten year old child. This behavior that would have gotten him fired at the very least at any other police department in America. But go ahead dems... milk it for all it's worth.

  • Posted By: trazer222 @ 10/12/2008 7:31:50 PM

    Although Mr. Obama will most likely win the election, its sad to note what a war hawk he is. It seems when we started this election it was all about Iraq. Now, when we listen to his debates, he wants to attack Pakistan and Afghanistan and a couple of African states;and possibly go to war against Iraq. I find it odd that he is so war hawkish in his statements...and it seems that we are headed for More War under Obama.

    • Posted By: Pallisor @ 10/12/2008 7:58:36 PM

      Good observation... we can't invade a colossal, third world fool's country that had 17 UN resolutions against him, but we can certainly invade an ally!

      Go figure.

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:48:21 PM

    http://iava.www.capwiz.com/bio/id/192&submit.x=9&submit.y=11

    Nice mug shot of McCain

  • Posted By: ajaxtheleast @ 10/12/2008 6:31:24 PM

    McCain and Palin are in the middle of an ocean hanging onto inner tubes bobbing about

    angrily trying to catch a fish by throwing them an anchor.


    McCain and Palin are a celebration of blissful ignorance.

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:24:36 PM

    Hey, Icy, where did you go. Scurrying away back into the darkness??

    Vets rate the candidates

    http://www.iava.org/full-ratings-list
    http://www.votesmart.org/issue_rating_detail.php?r_id=3483

    Still waiting for you to prove that I lied......
    Coward.

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:19:16 PM

    Although his campaign website devotes a large section to veterans issues, including expanding benefits for reservists and members of the National Guard, McCain voted against increasing spending on the TRICARE program by $20.3 billion over 10 years to give members of the National Guard and Reserves and their families greater access to the health care program. The increase would be offset by a reduction in tax cuts for the wealthy. (S.Amdt. 324 to S.C.R. 23, Vote 81, 3/25/03)

  • Posted By: neos @ 10/12/2008 6:18:04 PM

    Since arriving in the U.S. Senate in 1987, McCain has voted at least 28 times against ensuring important benefits for America's veterans, including providing adequate healthcare. (2006 Senate Vote #7, 41, 63, 67, 98, 222; 2005 Senate Votes #55, 89, 90, 251, 343; 2004 Senate Votes #40, 48, 145; 2003 Senate Votes #74, 81, 83; 1999 Senate Vote #328; 1998 Senate Vote #175; 1997 Senate Vote #168; 1996 Senate Votes #115, 275; 1995 Senate Votes #76, 226, 466; 1994 Senate Vote #306; 1992 Senate Vote #194; 1991 Senate Vote #259)

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