"He Lied" About Bill Ayers?

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  • Posted By: chase127 @ 10/14/2008 7:30:18 PM

    Reading is fundamental. Once you learn how to read and discern the truth from lies, you will see that the ones calling names are usually the liars themselves. Read for understanding with a clear and open mind and you shall be set free. Reading some of these comments helps me understand why the rest of the educated world thinks the U.S. is full of ignorant, beer drinking fools. Read, read, read and then search, search and search for the truth. Why in the world would you blindly believe anything someone tells you just because you think you like them. Over 80% of America supported Bush at the start of the War of no reason. Now only 10% of America believes or supports Bush. If we as a country would have read and understood Iraq as a country, their historical significance, the nationallity of the 9/11 terrorist (none were from Iraq), and who impowered Sadam in the first place, maybe we would not have been so quick to go to war and make Dick Chaney rich. Those that are so concerned about Ayers and the benign Annenberg foundation should be more concerned about Chaney, Halliburtin, (forgive the spelling I don't care to look it up I'm so discusted about what Channey and that company has gotten away with) and the no bid contracts. Research this and then come back and tell us how important Ayers and Annenberg are. Lastly, the same people who support Bush and McCain wanted to impeach Clinton for having sex with a willing young lady (very unethical and totally bad behavior for a President) but said nothing about the laws this administration broke, the trillion of dollars it quandered or the liberties of the citizens they trampled on. You have no credability if you supported Clinton's impeachment and sat idly by while the Bush administration served the whole country basically a middle finger. Hell Chaney is (who cares how you spell his name) still giving the country the middle finger and I don't hear nor read bleep out of none of you conservative not thinking for yourself, thinking it's cool to be ignorant sheep!

  • Posted By: 28spirits @ 10/14/2008 4:15:49 PM

    my belief is that being borne in Rockford, Illinois and a graduate of SIU in 1971, williams ayers would not be in any circle of my BFF, so anyone who starts his campaign from the living room of a sds weathermen underground domestic terrorist is not fit to be POTUSA is a fact all the lies that he is a converted good citizen is more lies even factcheck cannot cover up anymore....like oh, he was only 8 at the time of william ayers too youthful rebel stage. right I was there to witness the misdeeds of the Mao-learning rich kids anti-war hatred toward anyone who put Country First

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/14/2008 11:08:33 AM

    Bill Ayers and a Barack Obama connection.

    Chicago has a tradition for bomb makers beginning with the Haymarket affair bomb that killed 7 police officers in 1886.

    The bomb was thrown during a May Day rally for striking workers. There is a statue in Haymarket Square marking the place of the bombings.

    A Chicago native the Unabomber is now serving a life sentence at SuperMax Federal Penitentiary in Florence Colorado for killing three people with mail bombs. The Unabomber Ted Kaczynski grew up in the Chicago area, graduated from Harvard University before getting his PhD in mathematics from the University of Michigan, and then taught at U.C. at Berkley.

    The Unabomber received his moniker by targeting universities and airlines. Ted Kaczynski targeted professors at Northwestern University in Chicago and a United Airlines President with his bomb packages. As a radical leftist environmentalist, Kaczynski???s later fatal victims included an ad executive for Exxon and a timber industry lobbyist.

    • Posted By: Shortbus46 @ 10/14/2008 4:07:12 PM

      What does any of this have to do with th artical. That is what I am saying. Mcain and Palin are bringing all of the nut out.

  • Posted By: Shortbus46 @ 10/14/2008 4:01:55 PM

    It really upsets me that Palin and Mcain would stoop to any level to win this election. The whole world can see what is going on and they really do not care how bad they look. They are inciting anger into their politics and there are alot of people that are to lazy to check the facts for themselves. I work at a Police Department and even here I still hear the lies and untruths. "Obama is a Muslim" "Obama does not support our troops" etc. Do Not let the lies and anger of a failing campaign over take your rational thoughts. If Mcain and Palin are willing to misslead you now, what do you think they will do once they are in office. And last but not least Sarah Palin is a good woman but she is not ready for this office or to be president. Most Republican will tell you that the thought of President Palin scares the hell out of them.

  • Posted By: Shortbus46 @ 10/14/2008 4:00:43 PM

    It really upsets me that Palin and Mcain would stoop to any level to win this election. The whole world can see what is going on and they really do not care how bad they look. They are inciting anger into their politics and there are alot of people that are to lazy to check the facts for themselves. I work at a Police Department and even here I still hear the lies and untruths. "Obama is a Muslim" "Obama does not support our troops" etc. Do Not let the lies and anger of a failing campaign over take your rational thoughts. If Mcain and Palin are willing to misslead you now, what do you think they will do once they are in office. And last but not least Sarah Palin is a good woman but she is not ready for this office or to be president. Most Republican will tell you that the thought of President Palin scares the hell out of them.

  • Posted By: DUMPLIN @ 10/14/2008 3:24:53 PM

    SOMEONE NEEDS TO FACT CHECK FACTCHECK. MCCAIN DID NOT LIE ABOUT AYERS, HE ACTUALLY TONED IT DOWN SOMEWHAT AND FACTCHECK NEEDS ONLY TO DO A LITTLE HOMEWORK TO FIND THE TRUTH. BUT I'M SURE THAT WOULD BE TOO HARD, EVEN THOUGH GETTING TO THE FACTS IS PART OF YOUR JOB DESCRIPTION.

  • Posted By: newsweekthisweek @ 10/14/2008 2:51:51 PM

    It is such a shame that we have to put up with such debilitating, radical thinking, and morals, that of McCain and Palin.

    The price they are paying in return is their loss of the election. The way they attempt to twist other people's minds at all costs to get votes will go down in history; Republicans are to be known as the most outrageous of opponents.

    At a time in which, awareness and self-consciousness are at a height in embracing peace and co-operation, moreso than ever in the past, and contrary to McCain/Palin negative thinking and actions. McCain and Palin are working hard to bring that sense of self-advancement of humanity to a halt. Nature is definitely working against them.

    I wonder how they sleep at night, or better still, do they sleep at all -considering "we reap what we sow".

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/12/2008 10:25:06 PM

    Obama explains his objection to our National Anthem and Flag!!

    Hot on the heels of his explanation for why he no longer wears a flag pin, presidential candidate Senator Barack Obama was forced to explain why he doesn't follow protocol when the National Anthem is played.

    According to the United States Code, Title 36, Chapter 10, Sec. 171, During rendition of the national anthem when the flag is displayed, all present except those in uniform are expected to stand at attention facing the flag with the right hand over the heart.

    "As I've said about the flag pin, I don't want to be perceived as taking sides,' Obama said. 'There are a lot of people in the world to whom the American flag is a symbol of oppression. And the Anthem itself conveys a war-like message. You know, the bombs bursting in air and all. It should be swapped for something less parochial and less bellicose. I like the song 'I'd Like to Teach the World to Sing.' If that were our anthem, then I might salute it.'

    WHAAAAAAAT!!!!!!!!!! Yes, ladies and gentlemen, this could possibly be our next president. I, for once, am speechless.

    He better take sides..........if he is not on the side of AMERICA he MUST NOT EVEN BE CONSIDERED for the office he is seeking. We do not need a man in office that will not salute the flag. The world knows how to sing, what they need to know is that the USA will defend what that flag stands for

    • Posted By: Digger123 @ 10/14/2008 2:45:45 PM

      LOL. My God Jim, you are a piece of work. Have been bemused by your ramblings; but this particular flagrantly untruthful pile o??? poo needs redress ??? less some poor idiot believe / give it credence. You are perpetuating an urban myth, an internet fantasy, the political equivalent of chain mail, a Nigerian email scam??? ;) As omatravel kindly points out, this ???quote??? has been thoroughly debunked. It is myth, fantasy, fodder for \ poor unfortunates like yourself who prove each day that the ability to type and connect to the internet does not necessarily correlate with critical thinking, intelligence, or discernment. As for the ???will not salute the flag??? mythological back-story, I shouldn???t have to point this put (and it???s likely wasted on someone who displays such a horrifying mixture of limited intellectual capacity and delusion), but there are a variety of videos freely available at various news and political sites that show Sen Obama doing just what you purport he will not do ??? e.g., standing in the Senate, with hand over heart, saying the pledge of allegiance. Of course, like a true jihadi, you???ll likely claim this is a Hollywood special effect. LOL. You might also check out the variety of videos showing Repubs, incl Sen McCain appearing without your precious ???flag pin?????? and in one very humorous example a Repub hack appearing on a talk show blasting Obama for this fiction, while not wearing a flag pin himself??? LOL. What a pity we???re wasting our time and energy on such nonsense. Thank you GOP for this great service to our country.

    • Posted By: omatravel @ 10/12/2008 11:44:16 PM

      To: Jim Johnson
      Do you know what satire is? I suggest that you read the Snopes account of how this stupid story started, as a satirical editorial message from an Ari zona newspaper columnist. And you ignorant Republican sheep believe everything you're told; try reading instead of writing about subjects about which you know nothing! Of course, like your sophomoric vp candidate, that would be EVERYTHING!

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/13/2008 5:59:59 PM

    http://www.mcclatchydc.com/100/story/53812.html

    Even Gov. Charlie Crist, who helped deliver Florida for McCain during the primary, said he will spend the final weeks before Election Day minding the state's weak economy rather than campaigning for the Arizona senator.

    ''When I have time to help, I'll try to do that,'' Crist said last week, after he flew around the state with McCain running mate Sarah Palin. Saturday, he skipped a McCain football rally and instead went to Disney World.

    Once considered a potential running mate, Crist had pledged to do all he could for McCain and spent several days this summer campaigning for the Republican nominee in and outside Florida. He faults the tough economic times for McCain's difficult time in Florida, where he trails rival Barack Obama by about 5 percentage points in the polls.

    No Republican has won the White House in modern times without carrying Florida. The last to lose the state was McCain's former colleague, Sen. Bob Dole, in 1996. Some Republicans say the state party hasn't done enough, while others blame McCain's national campaign.

    Roger Stone, a longtime McCain supporter, said the state party and the national campaign bear almost equal blame.

    ''This effort lacks coordination and a cooperative spirit and it's showing,'' Stone said. "But it's more than mechanics. The campaign has no consistent message.''

    Over the summer, the Obama camp spent at least $10 million on Florida television ads ??? 4,000 of the spots attacking McCain ??? while McCain spent nothing.

    The failure by the party and McCain's campaign to respond to an Obama radio ad in Florida that bashed McCain over embryonic stem-cell research was ''a perfect example of them not being on the ball in Florida,'' Stone said, echoing numerous Florida Republicans.

    But national campaign officials said McCain is within striking distance of Obama in the polls, has ample time to turn things around, and had a winning strategy until Wall Street's crash.

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/14/2008 11:55:15 AM

      Jeb Bush helped his brother get elected. I'm not sure if Crist wants to distance himself for reelection or to have deniability if there are any problems at the voting places this year..

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/14/2008 11:05:39 AM

    Vote John McCain!!!!
    I want the President to be someone who can think for himself and not rely exclusively like a blind person on a particular advisor. I want someone who understands numbers and can make analytical decisions himself. Years of computing payloads, fuel requirements, weather and distances as a pilot are the experiences that John McCain brings to the table when listening to economic proposals. His eyes will not glaze over when there are ten page budget spreadsheet proposals presented to him. Barack Obama and Joe Biden have no mathematical or quantitative education or experience between them. They do not teach accounting in law school. That is why they offer basic basic accounting to attorneys as continuing education classes after they are licensed. I also am willing to bet that neither Barack Obama or Joe Biden never took a basic accounting continuing legal education class to improve their lack of skills. Both Obama and Biden were political science majors as undergraduate which means they have no quantitative training or mathematical background.
    John McCain is the one who can come up with solutions to our economic problems.
    Barack Obama and Joe Biden are mathematically challenged. Send them back to school.

    Vote John McCain!!!!

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/14/2008 11:05:00 AM

    Vote John McCain!!!!! Ohio is proud of John Glenn and John McCain both fighter pilots who served their country when their country was at war. The Barack Obama campaign is dumb as a doorknob to raise Keating 5 and criticize John Glenn. You just put Ohio in the Red state column for the Republicans. The people of Ohio are proud of John Glenn, a former Marine Corp fighter pilot during World War II. John Glenn was awarded the Congressman Medal of Honor and flew aboard the space shuttle at the age of 77. The Barack Obama campaign should stop criticizing an 87 year old war hero John Glenn by raising the Keating 5 scandal that happened over twenty years ago. For two people who have no military service between them and have never worn the uniform, Barack Obama and Joe Biden have a lot of gaul to obliquely criticize a fellow Democrat and elder statesman and an 87 year old war hero and first man in space John Glenn. It is also pretty stupid to criticize an Ohio native son when Ohio is in play during this election. Does the Barack Obama campaign have to destroy the reputations of four Democratic Senators to lob an ineffectual attack against John McCain. Senator Alan Cranston is dead and can not even defend himself. Vote for John McCain, he respects veterans especially 87 year old fellow fighter pilots like John Glenn.

    Vote John McCain!!!!! Vote John McCain!!!!!!

  • Posted By: billtill @ 10/14/2008 10:12:33 AM

    About the time our original thirteen states adopted their new constitution in 1787, Alexander Tyler, a Scottish history professor at the University of Edinburgh , had this to say about the fall of the Athenian Republic some 2,000 years earlier:

    'A democracy is always temporary in nature; it simply cannot exist as a permanent form of government.'
    'A democracy will continue to exist up until the time that voters discover they can vote themselves generous gifts from the public treasury.'
    'From that moment on, the majority always vote for the candidates who promise the most benefits from the public treasury, with the result that every democracy will finally collapse due to loose fiscal policy, which is always followed by a dictatorship.'

    'The average age of the world's greatest civilizations from the beginning of history, has been about 200 years'

    'During those 200 years, those nations always progressed through the following sequence:

    1. from bondage to spiritual faith;
    2. from spiritual faith to great courage;
    3. from courage to liberty;
    4. from liberty to abundance;
    5. from abundance to complacency;
    6. from complacency to apathy;
    7. from apathy to dependence;
    8. from dependence back into bondage'

    Professor Joseph Olson of Hemline University School of Law, St. Paul , Minnesota , points out some interesting facts concerning the 2000 Presidential election:

    Number of States won by: Democrats: 19 Republicans: 29
    Square miles of land won by: Democrats: 580,000 Republicans: 2,427,000
    Population of counties won by: Democrats: 127 million Republicans: 143 million
    Murder rate per 100,000 residents in counties won by: Democrats: 13.2 Republicans: 2.1

    Professor Olson adds: 'In aggregate, the map of the territory Republican won was mostly the land owned by the taxpaying citizens of this great country. Democrat territory mostly encompassed those citizens living in government-owned tenements and living off various forms of government welfare...' Olson believes the United States is now somewhere between the 'complacency and apathy' phase of Professor Tyler's definition of democracy, with some forty percent of the nation's population already having reached the 'governmental dependency' phase.

    If Congress grants amnesty and citizenship to twenty million criminal invaders called illegal's and they vote, then we can say goodbye to the USA in fewer than five years.

    If you are in favor of this, then by all means, delete this message. If you are not, then pass this along to help everyone realize just how much is at stake, knowing that apathy is the greatest danger to our freedom.

    WE LIVE IN THE LAND OF THE FREE,
    ONLY BECAUSE OF THE BRAVE

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/13/2008 10:13:59 AM

    Sarah Palin is a traitor to America and to her party.

    Palins un-American activities
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/index.html

    Alaskan Independence Party chairwoman Lynette Clark talks about why she does not identify herself as an American, and about her kindred spirit Sarah Palin.
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/10/alaska_secession/index.html

    The pastor who clashed with Palin
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index.html

    Troopergate Report Concludes Palin Abused Power. Full 263 Page report here???
    http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Palins Attack On Obamas Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About her Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php

    Palin And The Alaska Independence Party
    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

    • Posted By: maliles @ 10/14/2008 6:46:31 AM

      While I do not support McCain/Palin, I do not know if I would go so far as to accuse her of treason, that is a very serious charge and punishable by the death penalty. I question her motives as to why she or anyone else would consider session from the Union knowing the US government would respond with overwhelming force to stop the session.

      Her views are somewhat disconcerting and her motives questionable but I do not see anything to suggest treason, at least not at face value and I would not base my argument on websites concerning this serious charge you make.

  • Posted By: think2976 @ 10/13/2008 1:08:26 PM

    How is it possible that FactCheck gets to publish this nonsence and get away with this as unbiased news? Fact check this. Obama worked for Annenberg who owns fact check. I hardly think that fact check is unbiased. Wake up America. Obama is a blank slate with a promise of hope. Great. He is great at that, but we need to bless this guy in a few weeks with so little of his real history and family relations known to us. Who is he? Real Christians don't sit under their pastor for twenty years, have him bless his children and his marriage, only to wake up one day to denounce the man he sat under. How can anyone ignore those facts.

    • Posted By: maliles @ 10/14/2008 6:36:57 AM

      Let me make a couple of points here. Ayers did some very horrible things 40 years ago, whether Obama knew of this is an argument neither of us will win because the facts are just not there. If we are going to question Obama's judgement about Ayers then we must also question the judgement of the University of Illinois at Chicago for hiring him, we must also question the schools he attended to attain his several degrees for letting him into the schools. We must question the students who have partaken in his classes over the years for allowing him to teach them. We must question the other Democrats and Republican's who set on the board with Obama and Ayers. The point here is this, if you are going to question Obama's judgement then you must also question everyone else's judgement as well or will you attempt the argument that Obama should be held to a higher standard, if so you are asking him to be more than human and that is impossible.

      As to Rev. Wright, this man said some horrible things but I will not and cannot hold Obama responsible for what Rev. Wright said no more than I can hold Obama responsible for the actions of Mr. Ayers. What I can do is say that Obama made some bad choices in the company he keeps, what I can do is understand that we all make bad choices in friends. What I can do is set back and watch to see what his actions are now, what are his words telling me.

      In other words, I do what anyone should do, give him the benefit of the doubt by saying, ok you made some dumb choices in the past, who hasn't, now did you learn from those dumb choices and what did you do about it. He did exactly what I would have done, walked away, denounced their actions then moved on with life. Life is to short to lament on past mistakes, unfortunately he is running for President and some people will never let him forget his past transgressions. Those same people would take great exception to being held to the same standard and taken to task on a daily basis for their own past transgressions. Do not throw stones if you live in a glass house and we all live in glass houses.

    • Posted By: zrwoodard @ 10/14/2008 1:00:07 AM

      I don't know think-one coherent thought. Please tell me what I should be worried about? I really don't get it. Obama served on a board with a guy with a checkered past. I served on a committee for a couple of years with a prominent businessman who everyone loved and respected. At least until it was found out he was sexually abusing kids. I suppose if I ran for office, people like you would question my judgement about associating with a known sex offender. Was he my friend - no did I ever eat with him or talk to him yes. I am more concerned with a VP that was found to abuse her office, get a per diem while living at home and let her husband use the gov's office??? Sounds like something any moron would know could get them in trouble. Or maybe I'm a moron because she didn't really get into trouble.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/13/2008 6:32:40 PM

    Does John McCain "pal around with terrorists?"

    Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted [Watergate Burglar] and [Domestic Terrorist G. Gordon Liddy] might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.

    NOTE: In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "Proud" of Liddy, and Praised Liddy's "Adherence to the Principles and Philosophies that keep our Nation Great." From the program:

    LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

    McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.


    Which of Liddy's "Principles and Philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of [Break-Ins? Fire Bombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings]?

    Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

    During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to [Firebomb a Washington Think Tank, Assassinate a Prominent Journalist]

    Uundertake the Watergate Burglary, Break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's Psychiatrist, and Kidnap Anti-war Protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.

    Re: Liddy's "continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great:" Did McCain mean to include Liddy's instructions to listeners of his radio show in 1994 (around the time Ayres and Obama were on a board together discussing education programs and other plots) on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents (aim for the head)?

    If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen's gun ownership, Liddy counseled, "Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."

    More recently, Liddy explained making the Clintons objects of shooting practice:

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/13/2008 6:31:51 PM

    Does John McCain "pal around with terrorists?"

    Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted [Watergate Burglar] and [Domestic Terrorist G. Gordon Liddy] might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.

    NOTE: In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "Proud" of Liddy, and Praised Liddy's "Adherence to the Principles and Philosophies that keep our Nation Great." From the program:

    LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

    McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.


    Which of Liddy's "Principles and Philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of [Break-Ins? Fire Bombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings]?

    Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

    During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to [Firebomb a Washington Think Tank, Assassinate a Prominent Journalist]

    Uundertake the Watergate Burglary, Break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's Psychiatrist, and Kidnap Anti-war Protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.

    Re: Liddy's "continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great:" Did McCain mean to include Liddy's instructions to listeners of his radio show in 1994 (around the time Ayres and Obama were on a board together discussing education programs and other plots) on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents (aim for the head)?

    If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen's gun ownership, Liddy counseled, "Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."


  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/13/2008 5:59:10 PM

    [34] of Your Presidents are Blood Related...Fact


    Sen. Obama is Blood Related to the Following....

    1. President Bush: 11th Cousin

    2. President Bush Sr: 10 th Cousin

    3. Vice Pres. Dick Cheney: 8Th Cousin

    4. Harry S. Truman

    5. Lyndon B. Johnson

    6. Gerald Ford

    7. British Prime Minister: Winston Churchill

    8. Confederate General: Robert E. Lee

    And

    Actor: Brad Pitt , Obama's [8th Cousin]

    Note: John McCain is Blood Related to Laura Bush, George Bush's Wife.

    John Kerry is also a Blood Related Cousin to President Bush...Fact


    George W. Bush Sr. is Married to his Blood Relative [Barabara]...Fact

    34 Presidents are in Fact [Blood Related]..Fact

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/13/2008 5:58:21 PM

    AIP: The Alaskan Independence Party

    Todd & Sarah Palin's Hatefilled, Secessionist Party, The 3rd largest Political Party in alaska, Todd Palin was a Member for 7 Years and is Not a registered Republican. Demand that Sarah & Todd Palin Renounce and Denounce the Anti-American-Secessionist beliefs and teachings ...

    Newswekk Magazine ...Please, I'm Begging You NewsWeek, Put sarah and Todd Palin to task for their Anti-American Connections.

    AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."

    Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad.

    The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government."

    He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their Damned Flag...

    When Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home."

    Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.

    Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002.

    Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler."

    While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.

    The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention.

    She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention.

    In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

    So when Palin accuses Barack of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

  • Posted By: sharenews @ 10/12/2008 6:56:49 PM



    BARACK OBAMA and BILL AYERS (unapologetic Washington Terrorist Bomber) both worked on the Woods Funds Board as directors in the ???90s.

    Here is one example of many radical groups they had for clients:


    ACORN: A LIBERAL ACTIVIST GROUP, notorious for voter registration FRAUD and even paying for votes using crack cocaine.

    Operating in at least 38 states (as well as Canada and Mexico), ACORN pushes a highly partisan agenda, and its organizers are best understood as shock troops for the AFL-CIO and even the Democratic Party.

    Acorn and its affiliates have pulled some real stunts in recent years. In Ohio in 2004, a worker for one affiliate was given crack cocaine in exchange for fraudulent registrations that included underage voters, dead voters and pillars of the community named Mary Poppins, Dick Tracy and Jive Turkey. During a Congressional hearing in Ohio in the aftermath of the 2004 election, officials from several counties in the state explained ACORNs practice of dumping thousands of registration forms in their lap on the submission deadline, even though the forms had been collected months earlier.

    Given this history, its not surprising that ACORN is so hostile to voter identification laws and other efforts to ensure fairness and accuracy at the polls.


    Source article: http://directorblue.blogspot.com/2008/03/obamas-problematic-directorship-woods.html


    * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * *

    Reports on SCOTUS Voter ID and ACORN Fraud:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5VgzvzIJ04&feature=related

    OBAMAs ACORN Exposed - PART I: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H8Ep1tkNOUU


    OBAMAs ACORN Exposed - PART 2: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=625jUE78zjE


    OBAMAs Resume. . . The ACORN Years: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SOhlcu5dJw

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/13/2008 5:58:16 PM

      By the way the identification laws affect mostly the elderly, some who still care the DL that do not have photos and do not wish to get new ones. Nice try.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/12/2008 8:04:52 PM

    This link of a CSPAN video clip may help set the context, as these hearings were at the time of McCains attempt at S.190.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    "Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis"

    • Posted By: max in fl @ 10/13/2008 5:47:24 PM

      nowforthetruth

      I HAVE wasted my time once looking at the DOCTORED youtube clip. I can't tell how many sources are in that SOUP. Yet you've referenced that clip in 7 different blogs and sometimes repeated the same one 4 time in the same blog, so I'll do the same whereever I see it. There is no way to tell when it took place. So it back to the Library of Congress and NOWFORTHETRUTH..

      S.190
      Title: A bill to address the regulation of secondary mortgage market enterprises, and for other purposes.
      Sponsor: Sen Hagel, Chuck [NE] (introduced 1/26/2005) Cosponsors (3)
      Latest Major Action: 7/28/2005 Senate committee/subcommittee actions. Status: Committee on Banking, Housing, and Urban Affairs. Ordered to be reported with an amendment in the nature of a substitute favorably.
      --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
      COSPONSORS(3), ALPHABETICAL [followed by Cosponsors withdrawn]: (Sort: by date)
      Sen Dole, Elizabeth [NC] - 1/26/2005 Sen McCain, John [AZ] - 5/25/2006
      Sen Sununu, John E. [NH] - 1/26/2005

      http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/bdquery/z?d109:SN00190:@@@P

      Again, McCain cosponsors in 5/25/06 a bill that was OFF the table since 7/28/05. The democrats did not kill the bill, the bill was NEVER voted on..

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