"He Lied" About Bill Ayers?

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  • Posted By: Lee Holmes @ 10/11/2008 6:06:52 AM

    Uhh,Vivica,[FACTCHECK] while we all know that you may have had a few too many with Rove lawyer Bob Luskin [the two,Vivica Novack and Luskin, would meet in a Washington DC bar for drinks after her stint on the clock at TIME during the Plame mess ,''palling around''as it were, [Note.Refute THIS one FACTCHECK],the ''fact''remains that even FACTCHECK is uncertain enough of the relationship between Ayers and Obama to couch it in quite careful terms using an ''Obama spokesman''as a key source on Pg 3 as if we are supposed to take this at face value. You dingbats blew it on Obamas guns and abortion position,thus you are seriously in need of more facts,and less booze. You wanna be ''non-partisan''? Fire yourself.

    www.salon.com[Archives,Novak,Viveca].Dec.15,2005.

  • Posted By: think2976 @ 10/11/2008 1:19:07 AM

    When did fact check become America's source of truth? Honestly, everywhere I look I see factcheck.org making statements. I investigated factcheck.org and they are owned by Annenberg with ties to Acorn. They are hardly non biased. Everyone in the media lazily uses factcheck instead of investigating on their own. Did fact check release their investigative methodolgies?

    • Posted By: lgire @ 10/11/2008 2:34:32 AM

      Instead of shooting the messenger, why not point out what you contend that factcheck said was wrong and the basis of your contention. I have heard Fox commentators state that Ayers was pushing radical marxist ideas in the education program and in my on line research could not find any support for this. I also researched Ayers and found his group attempting to place bombs where there would be no chance of injury but disruption on the bombing of North Viet Nam which he viewed as a terrorist act because innocent civilians were being killed. ( The most conservative estimate is that 50,000 innocent civilians died as a result of the bombing). By labeling Ayers a terrorist, MaCain/Palin wants people to believe Ayers was targeting innocent people ala 9/11 for political purposes when his goal, albeit naive, was to stop the killiing of innocents.

  • Posted By: LudwigVanBeet @ 10/11/2008 1:42:33 AM

    Wow , what a pathetic little phony Hero this Munchkin is turning out to be. I do not think he is living in reality right now. Just look in his eyes and you can see bewilderment. Picking Palin should be enough to convince anyone with common sense.

  • Posted By: think2976 @ 10/11/2008 1:13:54 AM

    FACTCHECK.org is owned by Annenberg who funds Acorn. When did factcheck become the final source of truth? Wow, everywhere you look you read factcheck. Someone needs to fact check them.

  • Posted By: cobalt6 @ 10/10/2008 11:56:45 PM

    I can't wait for this election to be over! 2 years ago McCain said in co-sponsoring the Federal Housing Enterprise Regulatory Reform Act of 2005, S. 190: "If Congress does not act, American taxpayers will continue to be exposed to the enormous risk that Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac pose to the housing market, the overall financial system and the economy as a whole. The Democrats killed the Bill.

    The democrats and the Media have done everything in their power to ensure Obama wins this election!

    No mater who wins this election the economy will get better! Because after this election the democrats will have no choice but to do whats right for this country! The democrats and the media are playing a dangerous game to get Obama elected at the cost of the American people!

    McCain tried 2 years ago to prevent this, but the democrats voted against getting things under control! The American people need to stop blaming the republicans and Bush! The democrats did everything in their power to get us to this point to get Obama elected by not working together with republican's.
    We the American people need to send a message to the democrats and the media, that we expect democrats and republicans to start working together right now and do the right thing to get this economy back on the right track right now!

  • Posted By: Nins @ 10/10/2008 11:47:47 PM

    The GOP is grasping at straws. They have nothing substantive against Obama, but boy are they good at making up lies. This is the leading Karl Rove tactic for years, and if America falls for this again we should be ashamed of ourselves. Not to mention the obvious fact that this is all a smokescreen to keep the focus off of the fact that Palin and her Alaska associates are in contempt of court for refusing to testify in the Troopergate hearings. After Nixon and Clinton, Americans are to some extent jaded, but really, would you want a VP who refuses to attend hearings in her own defense, and instructs her employees not to testify? That smells like guilt. It surely doesn't give the impression that she has done no wrong and has nothing to hide.

    This year, the GOP offers you an angry old man and a woman who, while personable, is desperately uniformed about national and international issues. Both of them are far right politically. McCain used to be a maverick, but since 2004 he's voted 90% with Bush. McCain's policies are not original or reformist, despite how he's tried to co-opt Obama's popular message of change. Please go to the websites of both of the candidates and read their platforms. Obama's Blueprint for Change has more good ideas than McCain's plan. Compare them yourself. Obama's basic premise is that tax dollars should be spent to make America stronger and to improve the lives and well being of our people. For example, he uses education programs to train a new technology workforce, contributing to energy independence, creating jobs and improving the economy. When you read McCain's plan you will find no over-arching design to get America back on track. Instead you'll find more tax cuts for the wealthy, de-regulation of the health care industry, and a stated intent to overturn Roe v. Wade.

    I'm a Republican. Although I embrace some forward-thinking social values, in the past I've rarely voted Democrat. My thinking was that since Republicans grow robust economies, by voting Republican I'd be endorsing a plan that would grow wealth for our nation, and then we'd be able to afford social programs. It was a good strategy for a couple decades, but I have to say that the tenure of W. Bush has changed my mind. Not only is there nothing fiscally responsible about today's GOP, the insidious alignment of the party with religious intolerance has really turned me off.

    On the other hand, the intelligent luminous thought of Barack Obama has ignited my patriotism. I want a President who puts America first and can get the economy back on track. In my mind, values voting takes a back burner when we are faced with a meltdown of the economy. It is time for a change, a real change. The Republicans have controlled the Presidency for 28 of the past 40 years, but they have fallen down on the job. The Democrats have a stellar candidate this year, and I am voting for Obama.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY&feature=iv&annotation_id=event_922988

  • Posted By: Emile Mervin @ 10/10/2008 11:16:32 PM

    As a black who once supported the Republicans up until now, I think these character attacks by McCain against Obama reflects desperation in McCain's campaign and a lack of substance in presenting an alternative vision to what is now happening across America. Not that Obama is presenting a better alternative, but at least he is not engaging in these useless character attacks. It should have been Mitt Romney instead of McCain!

  • Posted By: Purl_Gurl @ 10/10/2008 10:57:08 PM

    Rather clear Viveca Novak and Brooks Jackson are bottom feeders in Obama's tank. I am significantly disappointed to read personal opinion and Slippery Semantics on the part of Novak and Jackson; both have given Fact Check dot org a black eye. Previously I gave my trust to Fact Check dot org but will no longer give my trust. Novak and Jackson are performing a dire disservice for readers and America through their engaging in a poorly veiled personal political agenda.

    Okpulot Taha
    Choctaw Nation

  • Posted By: NewAmerica @ 10/10/2008 10:47:22 PM

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    Find out your options for convenient voting.
    Many states allow individuals to vote prior to Election Day, either in person or by absentee ballot. Absentee voters typically must request an absentee ballot in advance. To learn about the options in your state, including how to obtain an absentee ballot, visit www.866ourvote.org, or call 866-OUR-VOTE.
    Find out if you are required to show ID.
    Every state has identification requirements for at least some categories of voters. Find out the rules for your state by visiting www.866ourvote.org, or calling 866-OUR-VOTE.
    Review sample ballots and information about candidates and issues.
    If you familiarize yourself with the layout and instructions of the ballot, you can prevent mistakes when you go to vote. Some local election officials will provide you a sample ballot if you request one. Also, know who and what you're voting for ??? you can research all candidates and ballot issues by contacting local civic groups or visiting www.canivote.org. If you have questions, concerns or problems, call 1-866-OUR-VOTE. Trained volunteers for the nation's largest non-partisan voter protection effort are available to answer your questions and help make sure your vote counts.

  • Posted By: NewAmerica @ 10/10/2008 10:41:15 PM

    Protecting Your Vote
    The Brennan Center report offers long-term solutions to ensure every eligible voter has a chance to vote. But the 2008 election is just around the corner, and what if you or someone you know is purged?
    Election Protection, a non-partisan coalition, offers voter education and protection through an informational Web site and an election hot-line (1-866-OUR-VOTE). They've also offer a useful voting checklist flyer you can print out and bring with you to the poll.
    The Election Protection voting checklist:
    Be sure you are properly registered.
    Most states require voters to register in advance of an election (though some allow voters to register on Election Day). Deadlines range from 3 to 30 days before an election. To find out if you are properly registered, confirm your address, obtain a copy of a voter registration form, or learn about registration deadlines in your state, call 866-OUR-VOTE or, for more information about registration rules in your state go to www.866ourvote.org.
    Be sure you go to the correct polling place.
    In many states, if you vote at the wrong location, your vote will not be counted. If you are unsure exactly where to vote, find your polling location by calling 866-OUR-VOTE or by going to www.canivote.org.
    Find out your options for convenient voting.
    Many states allow individuals to vote prior to Election Day, either in person or by absentee ballot. Absentee voters typically must request an absentee ballot in advance. To learn about the options in your state, including how to obtain an absentee ballot, visit www.866ourvote.org, or call 866-OUR-VOTE.
    Find out if you are required to show ID.
    Every state has identification requirements for at least some categories of voters. Find out the rules for your state by visiting www.866ourvote.org, or calling 866-OUR-VOTE.
    Review sample ballots and information about candidates and issues.
    If you familiarize yourself with the layout and instructions of the ballot, you can prevent mistakes when you go to vote. Some local election officials will provide you a sample ballot if you request one. Also, know who and what you're voting for ??? you can research all candidates and ballot issues by contacting local civic groups or visiting www.canivote.org. If you have questions, concerns or problems, call 1-866-OUR-VOTE. Trained volunteers for the nation's largest non-partisan voter protection effort are available to answer your questions and help make sure your vote counts.

  • Posted By: NewAmerica @ 10/10/2008 10:37:24 PM

    PROTECT YOUR VOTE
    Imagine that it's November fourth, election day. You've read up on all the candidates, local and national, and are ready to cast an informed vote. You get off work a little early and head to the polls.
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    You argue with the poll worker ??? you've voted before! They don't know why you aren't on the list, and weren't trained on what to do. Frustrated and embarassed, you leave without voting.
    Purged?
    Scenes like this happen more often than you might think, according to a new report from the Brennan Center for Justice. The study found that "thirty-nine states and the District of Columbia reported purging more than 13 million voters from registration rolls between 2004 and 2006." And while affirming that purges correctly-done are an important way to ensure voter rolls are dependable and up-to-date, the study found that:
    "Far too frequently, however, eligible, registered citizens show up to vote and discover their names have been removed from the voter lists. States maintain voter rolls in an inconsistent and unaccountable manner. Officials strike voters from the rolls through a process that is shrouded in secrecy, prone to error, and vulnerable to manipulation."
    Though the report notes that the "secret and inconsistent manner in which purges are conducted make it difficult, if not impossible, to know exactly how many voters are stricken from voting lists erroneously," it lists multiple instances where tens of thousands of voters were improperly stricken from the rolls.
    Protecting Your Vote
    The Brennan Center report offers long-term solutions to ensure every eligible voter has a chance to vote. But the 2008 election is just around the corner, and what if you or someone you know is purged?
    Election Protection, a non-partisan coalition, offers voter education and protection through an informational Web site and an election hot-line (1-866-OUR-VOTE). They've also offer a useful voting checklist flyer you can print out and bring with you to the poll.

  • Posted By: highwaytoserfdom @ 10/10/2008 10:34:27 PM

    'Article II section 1 clause 5 says McCain is not eligible to be president. Arming Saddam's Sunies and calling it a surge does not fool the Americans. This Neocon NWO, CFR candidate put up by both the RNC and DNC have bankrupted the evil evil immoral empire seen when we look in the mirror. I will not vote for the evil of two lessers. The 4th estate did not cover the election, the violence at the RNC convention, or more people at Ron Paul's rally. 48% of the US does not vote but should to get rid of every incumbent lawyer that ruined the country.

  • Posted By: tiredoflies @ 10/10/2008 9:58:13 PM

    When are the McCain/Palin supPorters going to get the message?

    Or do they just NOT give a damn?

    These people have become the radicals.

    SICKENING.

  • Posted By: Democrat-Hillary @ 10/10/2008 9:50:33 PM

    And McCain campaign tried the supreme court to block the release of the investigation!!!!!
    DO YOU WANT THAT AGAINNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNNN!!!!!!!

  • Posted By: a brighter America 08 @ 10/10/2008 9:38:15 PM

    Palin found guilty of abuse of power as governor!!! McCain sent top compaign attorney to Alaska a couple of weeks ago to try and get the Alaska Lesgislature to 'DROP'" the case, the judge ruled "NO"!! Good for him and good for the legislature to continue to pursue this case. Of course, the lower 48 knew she was lying to cover it up and it sickens me that McCain was party to covering it up as well. Shame on McCain and shame on Sarah Palin!! I hope the State of Alaska recalls her and never allows her to run for ANY public office again! So, just WHO are the LIARS??? Just WHO tried to cover up Sarah Pilan's abuse of power as governor? Just WHO are the LIARS?? McCain and Sarah Palin, that's WHO!! They are also lying big time about Senator Obama and making false accusations and slander in an attempt to besmirch and discredit a good, decent, and honest man of high integrity. Senator Obama stands head and shoulders above McCain and Sarah put together. The majority of America's citizens are intelligent and wise and we know McCain and Pilan will do anything to win the office of president and VP. Today McCain was forced to DEFEND Senator Obama!!! These two characters do not deserve our sympathy, they put themselves in a treacherous and trash-and-burn position and they deserve all the criticism they get as a result of their dispicable actions and comments. Thank you Alaska for doing your job and doing it well!!! Now, I hope you boot that untrustworthy and prevaricating woman out of your governor's office and mansion!!

  • Posted By: John's a Coward @ 10/10/2008 8:48:16 PM

    Palin is Guilty!

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