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  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/12/2008 1:36:51 AM

    This link of a CSPAN video may help set the context, as these hearings were at the time of McCains attempt at S.190.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    "Shocking Video Unearthed Democrats in their own words Covering up the Fannie Mae, Freddie Mac Scam that caused our Economic Crisis"

    • Posted By: jarcher1 @ 10/12/2008 5:22:59 PM

      Try this:

      http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27121535/

  • Posted By: Arlin @ 10/12/2008 5:06:23 PM

    Gover really can't smile because MCain could have picked Gov Tim Pawlenty who really played hockey, instead of someone who sat is the stands and watched. Palenty was the living laboratory of 'no new taxes" having romised and did mostly just that in face of a $5 billion deficit after his election in Minnesota. This would have sent new different message across America. So he did not really have a sense of vision,Alter talks about. And McCain could have had both "woman" and "experience" in picking Sen Liddy Dole of North Carolina who had been both a cabinet officer and head of the American Red Cross. He blew that too.

  • Posted By: Arlin @ 10/12/2008 4:57:45 PM

    Actually,Grover and company are not happy. Gov Tim Pawlenty actually plaayed hockey,while Palin only sat on the sidelines and watched.. Moreover,Pawlenty was the living theory of "no new taxes" having refused to raise taxes in a severe $5 billion deficit in Minnesota. If McCain had really wanted to stress a maverick way of thinking, giving Pawlenty the nod would have been one way to signal a new era. Yet,he did not. He could have chosen Sen liddy Dole who had experience as a cabinet officer,Senato and head of the American Red Cross and no one would argue about "inexperience" and still have a woman leader. He did not. So Johnny boy, where are you now?

  • Posted By: FRam @ 10/12/2008 4:39:33 PM

    MANY AMERICANS ARE WONDERING WHAT HAPPENED TO McCAIN. I USED TO LIKE HIM BUT HIS CAMPAIGN STOOP SO LOW AND THAT ERASES WHATEVER I LIKE ON HIM. I DON'T KNOW IF PALIN INFLUENCED HIM SO BADLY. IT'S LIKE ANTHONY AND CLEOPATRA. I PITY McCAIN.

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/12/2008 4:25:53 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/12/2008 4:25:45 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/12/2008 4:25:35 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

  • Posted By: true_patriot @ 10/12/2008 1:38:23 PM

    Good point about the definition of ???maverick??? because this may help explain the erratic behavior we???ve seen, though I think it???s more about gimmicks out of desperation then his true position on issues.

    Personally, I???m more afraid of what his true positions are. Conservatives like to use fear of Obama the unknown, but I am more afraid of McCain the devil you think you know. At this point, does anyone know what he would really do once in the White House? If his recent proposal to buy more bad mortgages at a loss is an example, thanks, but no thanks.

    As for foreign policy, I no longer believe this to be McCain???s strength. His position in regard to Russia and the conflict with Georgia is a good example of being wrong about the facts and how he reacted. The problem is, most Americans don???t have enough understanding about these issues to recognize this.

  • Posted By: DWEAP @ 10/11/2008 5:08:47 PM

    I broke from the Democratic Party in 2000 and wrote in John McCain ~ he was a man I believed could reach across the aisle and make things happen for the good of all of us. He is not the McCain of today. This John McCain is erratic and unreliable. From the Palin disaster to his "campaign suspension," to the present negative campaigning, this is no longer a man we can trust to make good decisions for all of us. Palin has stated that Senator Obama put ambition before country ~ that is an apt description of what she did. She knows she's ill-equipped to handle the job of Vice-President, but her personal ambition drove her to accept the nomination. If she truly wanted to show a love for country, she would have said, "Thank you but I need to know a little more about this country both past and present ~ come back in a few years." The idea that this was done to attract Hillary supporters is ridiculous...she may share her gender, but she's no Hillary. Cindy McCain recently said that Obama was running one of the nastiest campaigns ever...the campaign has been nasty, but it's her husband who's responsible. Both Cindy and Sarah should take a page from Michelle Obama's notebook and learn how to speak intelligently and with grace and dignity. Senator McCain could learn a thing or two about the importance of a calm, steady hand in the face of the immense confronting challanges our nation. Right now, his campaign and his anti-Obama rhetoric has taken on the tone of another deeply disturbing time in our nation's history...the Salem witch trials

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 10/11/2008 6:06:00 PM

      I agree with you that McCain of old whom I respected has nothing to do with the McCain of today. I would happily vote for the McCain of 2000, but not for the candidate who he became. Not to mention Palin, who is a total incompetent, and shows that McCain lost his spine and brain with old age. However, I disagree with your comment on Michelle Obama. She is an angry, vicious, dangerous women. But, the vote is not for her but for her husband.

      • Posted By: getAgripUSA @ 10/12/2008 1:26:03 PM

        Just curious to know how you believe Michelle Obama to be an angry, vicious and dangerous woman?
        She does have a strained look on her face at times, however those three words you use are a bit harsh wouldn't you agree?

      • Posted By: fastwriter @ 10/11/2008 6:53:14 PM

        And Cindy is such a sweetheart. GIve me a break

        • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 10/11/2008 9:26:55 PM

          I do not give a hoot about Cindy, and I bet neither does McCain, as far as her opinions go (using her money to have a good life is another matter). On the other hand Obama does listen to Michele, he said so. This is a big difference.

  • Posted By: Ogbeh @ 10/11/2008 5:34:46 PM

    My thinking is that if you are a Christian as Ms Palin made me to believe, that you will be an agent of peace not violence and smear campaign. As a Christian and a republican, I am very ashamed about this violent tunes. I pray the Palin-McCain ticket shows maturity to do what is right.

    • Posted By: OhioGal @ 10/11/2008 5:45:25 PM

      I completely agree. It is sad and repulsive to me to see someone call themself a Christian and behave in this manner. To be a Christian is to follow Christ and I can't see Christ in this behavior.

      • Posted By: getAgripUSA @ 10/12/2008 1:16:46 PM

        Be sure to have a voice and discuss the manner in which McCain and Palin operate with friends and family.
        Change comes from within.
        Together we can change American politics.
        Obama / Biden

    • Posted By: e391615r @ 10/11/2008 6:58:36 PM

      I agree, therefore it's Obama/Biden for me

  • Posted By: justchuck @ 10/12/2008 1:13:48 PM

    Palin will cost McCain the election, mark my words. This choice was the first sign that the John McCain we all knew and loved had lost his spine. The JM I voted for in two primaries would neve have caved in to the hard right to placate the bible thumpers. JM was always admired for being above partisan poitics and being his own man.
    I live on Long Island, NY. The island is maybe 80% middle and upper middle income, 10% low income and 10% wealthy. This was a solid repulican area until about 5-6 years ago. It has since been shifting blue. McCain was always very popular here. There are a lot of Catholics, mostly of Irish, Italian, Polish and German descent. McCain should carry the island handily, but he is not. He is trailing Obama by about 15-20 points here. It's true, people are sick of the iraq war and the Wall St. debacle had hurt McCain worse than Obama. Stll, the idea that someone with socialist leanings and a long history of questionable assocations is leading a moderate republican is shocking. I was at dinner last night at a friends house. This friends parents were there also, as was my mother in law. No one, that is two men around 50 years old, one man over 80, one woman of 50, one woman of about 40-45, and two woman over 70, had a good impression of Palin. Everyone felt OK with McCain. Even if they didn't love him they respected him and could possibly vote for him, but no one wants Palin a heartbeat away from the presidency.
    Yes, we all know Obama might have socialist leanings, he might have very limited experience, he might have a radical viewpoint on born alive abortions, but we still all seem to prefer that over someone who's life is infused with a religion that basically says 'Our way or the highway", someone who even looked into the idea of banning books, someone who has an extreme right wing view on abortion., and someone who seems just plain mean. The hockey mom, pitbull act has gotten old and not to many people in the middle are comfortable with Palin.
    Think of it this way, if registered republicans are 32% of the population, and a quarter of those registered repubicans are really swing votes who vote for the person, not the party, that's the 8% of the vote that McCain will lose by since he picked Palin.
    We moderate republians are conservative only on fiscal matters and matters of personal responsibility. We don't want the government coming between a pregnant girl or woman and her doctor, we don't want the government in peoples bedrooms, we don't want the government egulating what we can take out of the library, and we sure don't want the government coing between a science/biology teacher's curriculum with a bibical fantasy about creationism.

  • Posted By: mtatom @ 10/11/2008 5:44:48 PM

    Mr. McCain is acting and sounding like a desperate man. Who wants a bitter old sidekick of George W. to take over the White House? Does any reasonable person actually think that Ms. Palin is V.P. material? I'm trying to like these two--I am a Republican--but they insist on being unelectable. What's a thinking man to do?

    • Posted By: getAgripUSA @ 10/12/2008 1:13:09 PM

      Vote on policy and substance rather than along party lines. And do not feel guilty in doing so either.
      Justice must prevail.
      And McCain must learn from his mistakes... and there have been plenty.
      The poor ol sod.

    • Posted By: makesureyouvote @ 10/11/2008 9:00:39 PM

      A thinking man should do more thinking, more research and take a another look at a candidate who is young, not perfect, not a miralce worker, appears more humble, is positive more than negative and will have the stamina necessary to take on the disaster that will be inherited by the next President of the United States - Obama/Biden.

    • Posted By: e391615r @ 10/11/2008 6:56:42 PM

      I understand your plight. "What's a thinking man to do?" Vote for Obama/Biden

  • Posted By: getAgripUSA @ 10/12/2008 1:00:35 PM

    Great article.
    With the pick of Palin, McCain has sentenced his prospects to the death squad. She is a fine example of poor decision making at it's finest. Hopefully the pole numbers are correct and the voting machines in this years election are reliable, or one can only imagine how worse the world's problems will get.
    It is obvious that the Bush neo - cons have infiltrated McCain's closest circle and are now able to cloud what judgement he may have had.
    I honestly think the old man is tired, and has lost control of campaign strategy in the process.
    The poor sod.

  • Posted By: jnsaito1 @ 10/12/2008 12:54:39 PM

    McCain is not following the rules too closely, he is using Nixon like smear tactics to scare the american people to vote for his cause. Sound familiar? Where did this tactic leave our country last time someone did that? Oh don't forget we are voting for a President, a political leader, not a religious leader. Unless you want to be like our foes. Seperation of church and state! The framers of our constitution! Anything ring a bell from 11th grade American Government ? I really don't think Obama is a secret muslim who has lived in this country for majority of his life, graduated from Harvard Law, married another Harvard Law graduate, bought a home, raising two children here, performed countless community service work for Chicago, all to deceive the American people for his secret Muslim "terrorist" plan as Palin put it. Who is the ridiculous one? You might want to look at the educational background of each ticket and if you have spent any time in the military you should know that military academies are a joke, a bias teaching of the american political system.

  • Posted By: midnight05 @ 10/12/2008 12:08:30 PM

    I have said often and to anyone who wants to listen that the John McCain who deserved the Presidency in 2000, the John McCain I as a Democrat admired, died somewhere between then and now. What we have is a zombie, an undead creatue that is neither real nor capable of doing anything of his own volition. The John McCain of 2000 would have said he wanted Lieberman and he was going to get Lieberrman. He would not have sucked up to Hagee or others in the religious right. It' s sad, really.

  • Posted By: Scenario @ 10/12/2008 11:39:58 AM

    This is FDR vs. Hoover 2008.

    Simple as that.

    This is about how our Government can best serve the American People in times such as these.

    You know who FDR is this year and you ain't seen nothing yet.

    We truly do have nothing to fear but fear itself.

    Perception is reality and perception can be changed from negative to positive simply with Great Leadership. Positive demeanor. Swift action.

    Look at a quarterback late in the 4th quarter and his team is down by 6 points and he has 2 minutes to drive 80 yards down the field for a touchdown.

    His team is tired.
    His team is demoralized.
    His team has lost confidence in themselves.

    The quarterback marches onto the field upright and confident. Simply his demeanor inspires his team. You can literally see and feel it happening from the TV screen.

    He takes command.

    He then methodically drives his team down the field and scores a touchdown to achieve victory.

    One man with confidence and courage can change the world.

    Imagine if FDR had television =)

  • Posted By: mitzi's oldest @ 10/12/2008 11:10:15 AM

    I think the story about McCain in Rolling Stone Magazine shows that he is unfit to be a Senator or President. His choice of Palin is just plain scary. He is running a campaign that reflects his true nature. He is a mean and nasty spoiled bully. Frankly, I perceive him as unstable. The sooner we are free of him the better. A true American fraud, strangely perfect for our time.

  • Posted By: wendydk @ 10/11/2008 8:47:24 PM

    Sarah Palin is a traitor to America and to her party.

    Palins un-American activities
    http://www.salon.com/opinion/feature/2008/10/07/palins_unamerican/index.html

    Alaskan Independence Party chairwoman Lynette Clark talks about why she does not identify herself as an American, and about her kindred spirit Sarah Palin.
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/10/alaska_secession/index.html

    The pastor who clashed with Palin
    http://www.salon.com/news/feature/2008/09/15/bess/index.html

    Troopergate Report Concludes Palin Abused Power. Full 263 Page report here???
    http://download2.legis.state.ak.us/DOWNLOAD.pdf

    Palins Attack On Obamas Patriotism Legitimizes Questions About her Association With Group Founded By America-Hating Secessionist
    http://tpmelectioncentral.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/10/palins_attack_on_obamas_patrio.php

    Palin And The Alaska Independence Party
    http://marcambinder.theatlantic.com/archives/2008/09/the_alaska_independence_party.php

    • Posted By: simonanunhappydem @ 10/11/2008 10:26:45 PM

      I read the pieces at salon.com. It is unbelievable. Why isn't Paiin's close associations with the Alaska Independent Party on every major media?? She is not only a right wing religious nut, she is also a close associate of a right wing quasi-fascist party in Alaska. Not to mention his husband who was a party member for 6 or so years. Clearly, McCain has gone totally senile choosing Palin.

      • Posted By: Cazador1972 @ 10/12/2008 2:24:28 AM


        Sounds like Gov. Palin was "palling around" with secessionists, don't it? ; )

        Where's the 527 on this? Here's the part that gets me, Palin is trying to make Obama look like the traitor!

        Where's the 527 on this???

        • Posted By: dsqard @ 10/12/2008 10:36:59 AM

          Obama has asked the 527's not to run ads for him. He is trying to stay on the high road as much as possible and I think that is the right tack to take. Let the Republicans play out as much rope as they want with that tactic. We are already seeing that it is going to hang them in the end.

  • Posted By: Payne23 @ 10/12/2008 9:48:04 AM

    The fact that Republicans have run campaigns based mostly on hate and fear for so long and that McCain is now choosing a different path is refreshing. He is attempting to remake the party and has. He has consistantly consulted with Democrats and honestly tried to put the country first before the GOP. This cannot be said of any Republican president aside from Bush 1 and he angered the republican base also. The fact that Rush doesn't like either one of them goes a long way toward proving the trueness of their character. It is very telling that the party that claims God's vision and values becomes upset when their candidate says enough to the politics of hate and half truths, and gets villified for it. McCain would have been a much better choice than W but hate and lies ruled that day and the GOP loved W for it apparently they want more of the same.

  • Posted By: tkjer @ 10/12/2008 7:45:53 AM

    John McCain has demonstrated that he is unfit to lead anything. He has insulted the greatest country in the world with his hate and fear mongering. McCain/Palin make Bush/Rove/Cheney look like Sunshine and Lollipops.

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