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  • Posted By: neos @ 10/15/2008 4:00:55 PM

    Why is fear-mongering and character assassination so important this election? Simple answer-the republicans have broken this country and don't know how to fix it. They have no credible plans for repairing all the damage they have done, so personal attacks are all they have left.
    Unfortunately for them, the disgraceful 'swiftboating' of an American soldier and 8 years of Karl Rove's underhanded tactics have left Americans disgusted with these smear campaigns. Americans are wiser now and demand more than a simplistic and mean-spirited 'Nobama' campaign. If you have nothing positive to add to the debate, go back to watching Fox and let the rest of us get our country back on track.

  • Posted By: olliemook @ 10/15/2008 3:16:52 PM

    I so wish all Americans could view American politics from the Canadian view - yes, I know that we are viewed as socialist liberals. Liberal isn't a dirty word up here; in fact, many of us view ourselves as Liberal/Conservatives, with a dash of socialism thrown in. Having just had our election up here, so many Canadians wished we had Obama on the ticket - he would have won so big!

    One thing I know for sure, after travelling half way around the world, the American reputation needs to be restored. An Obama presidency will increase your reputation tenfold. (feel free to tell me to mind my own business)

    • Posted By: RO in Reno @ 10/15/2008 3:44:18 PM

      It would be interesting to compare the average IQ of the US and Canada, in the US it's just a few points above idiot. so in the average there are a lot of idiots.
      Thos ewho use the word liberal as akin to unacceptable four letter words have no idea what it actually means and lack the curiousity to look it up in say wikipedia.org or encarta.
      The definition of liberal embodies much of what the US and the Constitution stands for, or at least used too.

      • Posted By: olliemook @ 10/15/2008 3:53:55 PM

        I have to admit, it's scary/fascinating to watch your debates and rallies...where do some of those people come from?? When watching the things some people say about Obama, well...I'm sorry, but redneck really does come to mind. I know most people aren't like that; maybe the press just gives too much attention to them.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:41:16 PM

      This is a Militarily Ran, Socialis, Capitalist Society.....

      Most are just in Denial.....

      The Words Social Security, Social Programs, The 250 Billion Dollar US Banking System, which is [Capitalist Socialism] The WallStreet Bailout, that will soon be under the US Brand and Watch as well and the Billionaires that got away, with the Tax Payers holding the Debt are just a Few Examples...

      Welfare, Medicaid, Medicaid and Unemployment Insurance is also [Socialism] Foundations and Not For Profit Organizations are [Capitalist-Socialism]

      Also [Taxation With Reprersentation] is also [Socialism] too !!!


      Most don't want to Accept it, but its staring them in the face on a Daily Basis.

      Might as well throw in [Universal Health Insurance] too

      PS: Most industrialized nations are in Fact [happy Socialist] and are not being Down trodden for being Socialist.

      Canada, Greenland, iceland, France, The U.K. Germany, italy, Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Sweden, Norway, ...I could go on an on.

      Brazil is also Socialist as well. India, Russia and of course [China] the Jusry is still out on [China] but We have no Problem accepting their Billions to Finance our 2 Wars...

      Billions from [Communist-Socialist China] and I've never heard any of these Bush and Mccain fanatics, hear them called [Socialist or Communist

      Cross Reference Prescott Bush & George H. W. Bush Sr. Via [Wikipedia] and see why thats so.

      I don't hear any of those Countries Bitchin and Moanin about how Bad it is in any of these Countries at all...

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:47:01 PM

    This is a Militarily Ran, Socialist & Capitalist Society.....

    Most People are just in Denial.....

    The Words Social Security, Social Programs, The 250 Billion Dollar US Banking System, which is [Capitalist Socialism] The WallStreet Bailout, that will soon be under the US Brand and Watch as well and the Billionaires that got away, with the Tax Payers holding the Debt are just a Few Examples...

    Welfare, Medicaid, Medicare and Unemployment Insurance is also [Socialism] Foundations and Not For Profit Organizations are [Capitalist-Socialism] Programs.

    Also [Taxation With Reprersentation] is also [Socialism] too !!!


    Most don't want to Accept it, but its staring them in the face on a Daily Basis.

    Might as well throw in [Universal Health Insurance] too

    PS: Most industrialized nations are in Fact [happy Socialist] and are not being Down trodden for being Socialist.

    Canada, Greenland, iceland, France, The U.K. Germany, Italy, Spain, Ireland, Greece, Portugal, Sweden, Norway, ...I could go on an on.

    Brazil is also Socialist as well. India, Russia and of course [China] the Jusry is still out on [China] but We have no Problem accepting [China's] Billions to Finance our 2 Wars...Huh

    Billions from [Communist-Socialist China] and I've never heard any of these Bush and McCain Fanatics, hear them called [Socialist or Communist] like they call Obama

    Cross Reference Prescott Bush & George H. W. Bush Sr. Via [Wikipedia] and see why thats so.

    I don't hear any of those Countries Bitchin and Moanin about how Bad it is in any of these Countries at all..Fact.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/15/2008 3:27:14 PM

    Through the election of Obama, David Axelrod will finally have his revenge on America. Revenge for what? Do I have to give you all the answers?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:16:38 PM

    McCain is a [Acorn Man] and other Republicans too !!!

    40% of Acorn's Registered Voters have been [Republicans]

    Hahahaha !!

    On Monday, the Democratic-leaning group ACORN, which has been painted as a criminal enterprise by the GOP for its voter registration and housing policy efforts, pushed back against its critics by producing a photo of John McCain attending its March 2006 rally.



    It was a reminder that, for all their electoral histrionics, Republicans have aligned themselves with ACORN in the past.

    Indeed, in addition to the McCain photo, there is a host of examples of prominent McCain surrogates attending ACORN events, signing ACORN legislation, or complimenting the group's efforts.

    Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, for example, partnered with ACORN in March 2008 for a "Homeownership Promotes The Economy" taskforce. More recently, Crist declared that -- contrary to GOP outrage -- he was not upset with the group's voter registration efforts in his state. The New York Times reported that ACORN supported a law signed by Governor Crist, which "changed the rules last year to restore the voting rights of about 112,000 former convicts."

    In July 2005, meanwhile, another Republican governor, Rick Perry of Texas, signed ACORN's Lending Law Reform Bill that changed the state's homelending practices.



    In July 2008, California Governor and McCain supporter Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill that ACORN helped draft aimed at California homeowners facing foreclosure.


    In June 2007, Minnesota Governor and McCain VP short-lister Tim Pawlenty signed a similar bill -- drafted by ACORN -- that helped homeowners get fairer deals on their mortgages.

    "The legislation was drafted according to recommendations made by a predatory lending study group established by Swanson prior to the legislative session," wrote the Northwestern Financial Review. "The study group contained representatives from the banking industry and the mortgage brokers association, as well as consumer advocates from organizations such as Illegal Aid and ACORN."

    As Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed an anti-predatory lending bill that ACORN supported. In February 2006, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman met with the ACORN Katrina Survivors Association. And back in July 2005, New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg actually got a kiss from ACORN's state leader, according to the publication City Limits, during an announcement that the city would protect or create 65,000 affordable units in a new housing proposal. Bloomberg, it should be noted, has not endorsed a candidate.

  • Posted By: mccainsupporter @ 10/15/2008 3:01:04 PM

    Why Bill Ayers is important to this campaign?
    John McCain should make the argument personal and something that the American people can identify and understand. John McCain views Bill Ayers as a founder of the Weathermen and Weather Underground and also founder of the Students for Democratic Society SDS on the campus of the University of Michigan. The University of Michigan had held the first sit-in against the war. John McCain and the other 600 Vietnam POWs believe Bill Ayers was responsible for prolonging the war and causing them to receive extra beatings by the North Vietnamese for refusing to show their exuberance for the antiwar effort in the United States. The North Vietnamese fought even harder and refused to negotiate or return our POWs given the organized antiwar protests in the United States. All the North Vietnamese had to do was wait and domestic antiwar protests orchestrated by Bill Ayers would cause the United States to surrender. John McCain spent five and half years as a POW and personally received extra beatings because of Bill Ayers. Barack Obama views Bill Ayers as a reformed domestic terrorist who did despicable things in the past but should be given a second chance today. For Barack Obama there was never a need to keep a distance from Bill Ayers. Maybe if Barack Obama could have walked in John McCain???s shoes for just one day and suffered just one of the extra beatings that John McCain endured for five and a half years because of Bill Ayers and his Weathermen antiwar movement then maybe Barack Obama might appreciate a need to keep a distance from Bill Ayers. Along with the SDS Students for Democratic Society, Weathermen Underground, the Black Panther Party also actively opposed the Vietnam War. Barack Obama received the support of Southside Chicago Congressman and former Black Panther party member Bobby L. Rush during his bid for the Illinois US Senate seat. The Black Panther Party along with the Weathermen Underground prolonged John McCains captivity and caused him to receive extra beatings. It is ironic, that Bill Ayers led the antiwar protests during the Vietnam era that caused John McCain to receive extra beatings and to experience nearly six years of captivity, and today Barack Obama has been leading antiwar calls against the Iraq war. Barack Obama can not understand why John McCain is not happy that Barack Obama has not kept a distance from Bill Ayers. If Barack Obama had walked in John McCain???s or any of the other 600 American POWs shoes one day, he would have no problem understanding why he should have kept his distance from Bill Ayers. The word shunning comes to mind. If Barack Obama would have shunned Bill Ayers and members of the Black Panthers Party there would be no issue in tonights debate.

    • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:03:55 PM

      Does John McCain "Pal around with Terrorists?"

      Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted [Watergate Burglar] and [Domestic Terrorist G. Gordon Liddy] might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.

      NOTE: In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "Proud" of Liddy, and Praised Liddy's "Adherence to the Principles and Philosophies that keep our Nation Great." From the program:

      LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

      McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.


      Which of Liddy's "Principles and Philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of [Break-Ins? Fire Bombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings]?

      Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

      During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to [Firebomb a Washington Think Tank, Assassinate a Prominent Journalist]

      Uundertake the Watergate Burglary, Break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's Psychiatrist, and Kidnap Anti-war Protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.

      Re: Liddy's "continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great:" Did McCain mean to include Liddy's instructions to listeners of his radio show in 1994 (around the time Ayres and Obama were on a board together discussing education programs and other plots) on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents (aim for the head)?

      If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen's gun ownership, Liddy counseled, "Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."

      More recently, Liddy explained making the Clintons objects of shooting practice:

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:01:35 PM

    McCain is a [Acorn Man] and other Republicans too !!!

    40% of Acorn's Registered Voters have been [Republicans]

    Hahahaha !!

    On Monday, the Democratic-leaning group ACORN, which has been painted as a criminal enterprise by the GOP for its voter registration and housing policy efforts, pushed back against its critics by producing a photo of John McCain attending its March 2006 rally.



    It was a reminder that, for all their electoral histrionics, Republicans have aligned themselves with ACORN in the past.

    Indeed, in addition to the McCain photo, there is a host of examples of prominent McCain surrogates attending ACORN events, signing ACORN legislation, or complimenting the group's efforts.

    Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, for example, partnered with ACORN in March 2008 for a "Homeownership Promotes The Economy" taskforce. More recently, Crist declared that -- contrary to GOP outrage -- he was not upset with the group's voter registration efforts in his state. The New York Times reported that ACORN supported a law signed by Governor Crist, which "changed the rules last year to restore the voting rights of about 112,000 former convicts."

    In July 2005, meanwhile, another Republican governor, Rick Perry of Texas, signed ACORN's Lending Law Reform Bill that changed the state's homelending practices.



    In July 2008, California Governor and McCain supporter Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill that ACORN helped draft aimed at California homeowners facing foreclosure.


    In June 2007, Minnesota Governor and McCain VP short-lister Tim Pawlenty signed a similar bill -- drafted by ACORN -- that helped homeowners get fairer deals on their mortgages.

    "The legislation was drafted according to recommendations made by a predatory lending study group established by Swanson prior to the legislative session," wrote the Northwestern Financial Review. "The study group contained representatives from the banking industry and the mortgage brokers association, as well as consumer advocates from organizations such as Illegal Aid and ACORN."

    As Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed an anti-predatory lending bill that ACORN supported. In February 2006, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman met with the ACORN Katrina Survivors Association. And back in July 2005, New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg actually got a kiss from ACORN's state leader, according to the publication City Limits, during an announcement that the city would protect or create 65,000 affordable units in a new housing proposal. Bloomberg, it should be noted, has not endorsed a candidate.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 3:00:31 PM

    1. [ African Descent] 2. [Caucasian Descent]

    Alicia Keys is Half Italian American & Black American, I guess, if she were running for President, she'd be an [ Arab] too

    Also Derek Jeter Half Irish & Black American, Halle Berr y who is Half White & Black American & Prince, who is also Half Italian American & Half Black American....


    I Guess they would be Classified as [Arab] Too

    In all my Life an in African History, I have Never Ever heard anyone claim [Kenya] as a Arab Nation or race, when we all know Full well, that [Kenya] is an [Black African Nation] that Practises many Different Religions, both Indigenous and Foreign, Islam & Christianity being major players, as well as the Indigenous Religions, practised in [Kenya]
    -------------------------------------------

    If that Equals Kenyan's being [Arab] to Any Person with a Brain Stem as [Arab Descent] than you need your Head Examined !!!

    The only reason Obama is a Arab to some of You, is the same reason why some you hate Mongers call Obama a [Socialist-Communist] because you are Grasping, just like Mccain-Palin, at Anything, you can, in Hopes that it will Work, when it Will Not !!!!
    -----------------------------------


    [34] of Your Presidents are Blood Related...Fact


    Sen. Obama is Blood Related to the Following....

    1. President Bush: 11th Cousin

    2. President Bush Sr: 10 th Cousin

    3. Vice Pres. Dick Cheney: 8Th Cousin

    4. Harry S. Truman

    5. Lyndon B. Johnson

    6. Gerald Ford

    7. British Prime Minister: Winston Churchill

    8. Confederate General: Robert E. Lee

    And

    Actor: Brad Pitt , Obama's [8th Cousin]

    Note: John McCain is Blood Related to Laura Bush, George Bush's Wife.

    John Kerry is also a Blood Related Cousin to President Bush...Fact


    George W. Bush Sr. is Married to his Blood Relative [Barabara]...Fact

    34 Presidents are in Fact [Blood Related]..Fact

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 2:58:16 PM


    In this year's Debates, Republican Sen. John McCain said...

    " We let Washington Change Us" and Ron Paul Rebuked that statement, and said....

    "Washington may have Changed You and Others, but Washington, did not... Change Me"

    Consider that statement, from McCain...

    Out of the Abundance of Your Heart, the.... MOUTH SPEAKS

    You Trusted George W. Bush, his Administration and John McCain, regarding the Invasion of Iraq, his Majority Ruled Congress & Senate, his Rhetoric of Downsizing Big Goverment, eventhough George W. Bush and his Majority Senate & Congress, in fact [ EXPANDED BIG GOVERNMENT] !! This Nation under George W. Bush Jr. became the BIGGEST DOLLING SYSTEM IN THE WORLD. Under GWB Jrs. Administration, along with John McCain,

    The De-Regulated, WallStreet went WILD, The Banking System went WILDER, The Mortgage Banks went even WILDER, The Land Developer's Sky Rocketed the Price of a Home, along with Appraisers, The Interest Only Loans and Sub Prime Lending Practice became KING in [6-7 YEARS] Also all the Forerign Land Investors GOBBLED UP the Investment Properties and Now they too are in a State of FIANANCIAL FAILURE and FINANCIAL DISSAPOINTMENT, now top that off with 2 Wars, one Completely Wrong [IRAQ] and Afghanistan, the jury is still out on that one, at a Cost of 1 Trillion Dollars and [Communist-Socialist China] LENDING THE USA the MONEY, with INTEREST and Your Lame A!! is not even CONCERNED in the Least, as long as he's WHITE an in the Oval Office.

    PS: The Banking System will be and is a [Socialist Act] and once it Starts and it has, with the Over 250 Billion Ownwership in America's banks, it won't be long before the BANKS are Completely OWNED and OPERATED by the Federal Government [SOCIALISM]

    I got no problem with it, but you seem to let George W. Bush Jr. and John McCain off the Hook with these Facts, because 90% of the time, McCain Voted with George W. Bush Jr. and was the Bull Horn for [DE-REGULATION]

    Mccain even said, "The Health Insurance Industry, should be ran like Wallstreet"

    What does that have to do with Providing this Nation's over 50 million with Affordable health care...Nothing

    His Health care plan for those without any Health Care plan, Covers Patients even Pre-Conditions.

    Note: I admire a man that is willing to Tax Himself as well as his Wife at a Higher Rate in Taxes, because Both he and his Wife, make More than 250,000 per year.

    You cannot Conveniently Detach or Seperate John McCain from George W. Bush Jr...It Cannot be Done...Period

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 2:55:54 PM

    Todd & Sarah Palin's Hatefilled, Secessionist Party, The 3rd largest Political Party in alaska, Todd Palin was a Member for 7 Years and is Not a registered Republican. Demand that Sarah & Todd Palin Renounce and Denounce the Anti-American-Secessionist beliefs and teachings ...

    Newswekk Magazine ...Please, I'm Begging You NewsWeek, Put sarah and Todd Palin to task for their Anti-American Connections.

    AIP's creation was inspired by the rabidly violent anti-Americanism of its founding father Joe Vogler, "I'm an Alaskan, not an American," reads a favorite Vogler quote on AIP's current website, "I've got no use for America or her damned institutions." According to Vogler AIP's central purpose was to drive Alaska's secession from the United States. Alaska, says current Chairwoman Lynette Clark, "should be an independent nation."

    Vogler was murdered in 1993 during an illegal sale of plastic explosives that went bad. The prior year, he had renounced his allegiance to the United States explaining that, "The fires of hell are frozen glaciers compared to my hatred for the American government." He cursed the stars and stripes, promising, "I won't be buried under their damned flag...when Alaska is an independent nation they can bring my bones home." Palin has never denounced Vogler or his detestable anti-Americanism.

    Palin's husband Todd remained an AIP party member from 1995 to 2002.

    Sarah can be described in McCarthy-era palaver as a "fellow traveler."

    While retaining her Republican registration, she attended the AIP's 1994 convention where the party called for a draft constitution to secede from the United States and create an independent nation of Alaska.

    The McCain Campaign has reluctantly acknowledged that she also attended AIP's 2000 Convention.

    She apparently found the experience so inspiring that she agreed to give a keynote address at the AIP's 2006 convention and she recorded a video greeting for this year's 2008 convention.

    In other words, this is not something that happened when she was eight!

    So when Palin accuses Barack of "not seeing the same America as you and me," maybe she is referring to an America without Alaska. In any case, isn't it time the media start giving equal time to Palin's buddy list of anti-American bombers and other radical associates?

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 2:55:24 PM

    Heres Your Hero John McCain in all his Dis-Honor: William Timmons, the Washington lobbyist who John McCain has named to Head His Presidential Transition Team, aided an influence effort on behalf of Iraqi dictator Saddam Hussein to ease international sanctions against his regime.

    The two lobbyists who Timmons worked closely with over a five year period on the lobbying campaign later either pleaded guilty to or were convicted of federal criminal charges that they had acted as unregistered agents of Saddam Hussein's government.

    During the same period beginning in 1992, Timmons worked closely with the two lobbyists, Samir Vincent and Tongsun Park, on a previously unreported prospective deal with the Iraqis in which they hoped to be awarded a contract to purchase and resell Iraqi oil. Timmons, Vincent, and Park stood to share at least $45 million if the business deal went through.

    Timmons' activities occurred in the years following the first Gulf War, when Washington considered Iraq to be a rogue enemy state and a sponsor of terrorism. His dealings on behalf of the deceased Iraqi leader stand in stark contrast to the views his current employer held at the time.

    John McCain strongly supported the 1991 military action against Iraq, and as recently as Sunday described Saddam Hussein as a one-time menace to the region who had "stated categorically that he would acquire weapons of mass destruction, and he would use them wherever he could."

    Timmons declined to comment for this story. An office manager who works for him said that he has made it his practice during his public career to never speak to the press. Timmons previously told investigators that he did not know that either Vincent or Park were acting as unregistered agents of Iraq. He also insisted that he did not fully understand just how closely the two men were tied to Saddam's regime while they collaborated.

    But testimony and records made public during Park's criminal trial, as well as other information uncovered during a United Nations investigation, suggest just the opposite. Virtually everything Timmons did while working on the lobbying campaign was within days conveyed by Vincent to either one or both of Saddam Hussein's top aides, Tariq Aziz and Nizar Hamdoon. Vincent also testified that he almost always relayed input from the Iraqi aides back to Timmons.

    Talking points that Timmons produced for the lobbyists to help ease the sanctions, for example, were reviewed ahead of time by Aziz, Vincent testified in court. Proposals that Timmons himself circulated to U.S. officials as part of the effort were written with the assistance of the Iraqi officials, and were also sent ahead of time with Timmons' approval to Aziz, other records show.

    Moreover, there was a major financial incentive at play for Timmons. The multi-million dollar oil deal that he was pursuing with the two other lobbyists would only be possible if their efforts to ease sanctions against ---Iraq were successful.

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 9:34:41 AM

    Does John McCain "Pal around with Terrorists?"

    Certainly McCain's continuing "association" and relationship with the convicted [Watergate Burglar] and [Domestic Terrorist G. Gordon Liddy] might suggest that is the case, if we are to apply the standards drawn by the McCain campaign.

    NOTE: In 1998, Liddy gave a fundraiser in his Scottsdale, Arizona home for McCain's senatorial re-election campaign -- the two posed for photographs together; and as recently as May, 2007, as a presidential candidate, McCain was a guest on Liddy's syndicated radio show. Inexplicably, McCain heaped praise on his host's values. During the segment, McCain said he was "Proud" of Liddy, and Praised Liddy's "Adherence to the Principles and Philosophies that keep our Nation Great." From the program:

    LIDDY: Your experience in the Hanoi Hilton is remarkable. I mean, I put in five years in a prison [for masterminding the Watergate burglary, and associated crimes], but it was here in the United States, and they didn't torture - the only torture that I had was being forced to listen to rap music from time to time.

    McCAIN: Well, you know, I'm proud of you. I'm proud of your family. I'm proud to know your son, Tom, who's a great and wonderful guy. And it's always a pleasure for me to come on your program, Gordon. And congratulations on your continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great.


    Which of Liddy's "Principles and Philosophies" was McCain referring to? Liddy's advocacy of [Break-Ins? Fire Bombings? Assassinations? Kidnappings]?

    Taking target practice with figures nicknamed Bill and Hillary?

    During the same period that Bill Ayers was a member of the Weather Underground, Gordon Liddy was making plans to [Firebomb a Washington Think Tank, Assassinate a Prominent Journalist]

    Uundertake the Watergate Burglary, Break into the office of Daniel Ellsberg's Psychiatrist, and Kidnap Anti-war Protesters at the 1972 Republican convention.

    Re: Liddy's "continued success and adherence to the principles and philosophies that keep our nation great:" Did McCain mean to include Liddy's instructions to listeners of his radio show in 1994 (around the time Ayres and Obama were on a board together discussing education programs and other plots) on how to shoot Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms agents (aim for the head)?

    If ATF agents attempt to curtail a citizen's gun ownership, Liddy counseled, "Well, if the Bureau of Alcohol Tobacco and Firearms comes to disarm you and they are bearing arms, resist them with arms. Go for a head shot; they're going to be wearing bulletproof vests."

    More recently, Liddy explained making the Clintons objects of shooting practice:

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:15:56 AM

      double nice.

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 2:54:23 PM

        When I see all these Mccainiacs...I have to put them in Straight Jackets, Sedate them with the Truth about their So Called Career Politician, Viet Nam POW Pimp....John McCain.

        For the Elitist that he is.....McCain said "Washington Changed Us"

        Ron Paul Rebuked John McCain's statement and said ....

        "It Changed You, but Washington did not Change Me"

        Ah Men Ron Paul, Ah Men ...My Good Man

  • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 9:35:33 AM

    McCain is a [Acorn Man] and other Republicans too !!!

    40% of Acorn's Registered Voters have been [Republicans]

    Hahahaha !!

    On Monday, the Democratic-leaning group ACORN, which has been painted as a criminal enterprise by the GOP for its voter registration and housing policy efforts, pushed back against its critics by producing a photo of John McCain attending its March 2006 rally.



    It was a reminder that, for all their electoral histrionics, Republicans have aligned themselves with ACORN in the past.

    Indeed, in addition to the McCain photo, there is a host of examples of prominent McCain surrogates attending ACORN events, signing ACORN legislation, or complimenting the group's efforts.

    Florida Gov. Charlie Crist, for example, partnered with ACORN in March 2008 for a "Homeownership Promotes The Economy" taskforce. More recently, Crist declared that -- contrary to GOP outrage -- he was not upset with the group's voter registration efforts in his state. The New York Times reported that ACORN supported a law signed by Governor Crist, which "changed the rules last year to restore the voting rights of about 112,000 former convicts."

    In July 2005, meanwhile, another Republican governor, Rick Perry of Texas, signed ACORN's Lending Law Reform Bill that changed the state's homelending practices.



    In July 2008, California Governor and McCain supporter Arnold Schwarzenegger signed a bill that ACORN helped draft aimed at California homeowners facing foreclosure.


    In June 2007, Minnesota Governor and McCain VP short-lister Tim Pawlenty signed a similar bill -- drafted by ACORN -- that helped homeowners get fairer deals on their mortgages.

    "The legislation was drafted according to recommendations made by a predatory lending study group established by Swanson prior to the legislative session," wrote the Northwestern Financial Review. "The study group contained representatives from the banking industry and the mortgage brokers association, as well as consumer advocates from organizations such as Illegal Aid and ACORN."

    As Governor of Massachusetts, Mitt Romney signed an anti-predatory lending bill that ACORN supported. In February 2006, Connecticut Senator Joe Lieberman met with the ACORN Katrina Survivors Association. And back in July 2005, New York City mayor Michael Bloomberg actually got a kiss from ACORN's state leader, according to the publication City Limits, during an announcement that the city would protect or create 65,000 affordable units in a new housing proposal. Bloomberg, it should be noted, has not endorsed a candidate.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:15:39 AM

      nice.

      • Posted By: Omaar @ 10/15/2008 2:49:59 PM

        Thank You...Truly

        I had to checkmate these John McCain A!! Wipes !!!

  • Posted By: XPolygamistWife @ 10/15/2008 1:57:53 PM

    McCain's DIRTY LITTLE SECRET in Arizona.

    Watch the video:

    http://www.bankingonheaven.com/

  • Posted By: Cloudosmoke @ 10/15/2008 1:52:30 PM

    The Republican Party is a thing of the past. This is a new era of politics that younger people will become more attuned to. Every young voter that will be out there voting is a gauge of what true leadership will become in the future when they take over the reigns of our future. Barack Obama is the indication to a new way of governance. Change is an ever evolving facet of society and it has come at a most crucial moment in history. Anyone that sees it other than that is still stuck in the 17-1800's mindset. If you don't value for the betterment of society of the 21st Century, you more than likely still believe in man as the more dominant over woman, you still believe that the telephone is operated by a hand crank and an operator sticks the line into the board to connect, you also believe the horse is still the best way to travel, you still believe there are Confederate States.

  • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/14/2008 5:40:59 PM

    Gayle Quinnell is the McCain supporter who referred to Sen. Obama as an Arab at a McCain rally. There is a video, this woman is priceless.

    an interview with Quinnell done via streaming cell phone. Interviewers include Noah Kunin, Senior Political Correspondent from The UpTake, Adam Aigner of NBC News and Dana Bash of CNN.

    Quinnell said she obtained the information on Obama being an Arab at "her local library" and from a pamphlet obtained at a local McCain campaign office (provided by a fellow volunteer not the campaign itself). She has taken it upon herself to redistribute the information as widely as possible by making copies of the pamphlet and sending it to random names in the phone book.

    Transcript:

    Gayle Quinnell: I went to the library in Shakopee and I got lots of ... three pages of information about Obama
    Adam Aigner of NBC News: And what kind of information did you get?

    Quinnell: I got to tell you, you call me. It's a long story. I'm afraid of what's going to happen to this country.

    Aigner: What would you think would happen? Do you think it would become Muslim country and what would that mean?

    Quinnell: It would be bad

    Aigner: So even though Senator McCain told you that he didn't feel that was true and you ought to be more respectful, you still fear that?

    Quinnell: I still do. Yeah. I'm not alone. I go to Burnsville, the main Republican headquarters and I do a lot of work over there. A lot of sending out mail and talking to people. And all the people agree with what I'm saying to you about Obama

    link to entire article: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/the-uptake/mccain-responds-to-arab-a_b_133820.html

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:25:45 AM

      If this transcript is an accurate representation of her beliefs, then she is a grade-A moron. The troubling thing is, how many people in this country feel the same way and fact check as lamely as she apparently does?

      • Posted By: sjpersonal @ 10/15/2008 11:02:27 AM

        There are quite a few people in this country who tend to believe anything told to them without fact checking for themselves. But this is McCain's base. I am just really glad that she is not supporting Obama LOL!

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/14/2008 5:37:45 PM

    Justice. Education. Opportunity. Equality. Freedom. Do you know what these words mean to a socialist?

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/14/2008 7:01:06 PM

      What do they mean?

      • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/14/2008 7:27:22 PM

        Mau Mau. Redistribution of Wealth. Political Correctness. Demagoguery, Cultural Relativism. "Some animals are more equal than others," and Secularism.

        • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:26:11 AM

          What?

          • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:33:36 AM

            Are you not aware that America has been party socialist for decades now? Medicaid/Medicare, Welfare, Social Security, our interstate highway system... just to name a few of the programs that have been championed by REPUBLICANS over the years.

            You fear socialism? Shouldn't you be more afraid of a continued "redistribution of wealth" out of the middle class and into the coffers of the top muckety-mucks. Look where that's gotten us. I sincerely doubt you and your family are financially solvent enough to not feel the effects of what we're going through right now, together, the end result of trickle down economics.

            Now, you probably support the GOPS's plan to completely socialize our banking system. Before, fiscal losses were socialized for only part of our economy -- the GOP would have us socialize all financial instruments so the big-wigs can do what they will and get a free bailout courtesy of "Joe Six Pack" and the rest of us taxpayers whenever their panties get in a bunch.

            GOP = No accountability.

  • Posted By: TruthForward @ 10/14/2008 5:56:55 PM

    I just want Obama to fix this economy. McCain could never do that because he has lobbyist telling him what to do.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:23:39 AM

      Obama has plenty of lobbyists he has to entertain. Fortunately, he also has Warren Buffett to ask for advice.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/14/2008 6:14:03 PM

    Obama to stress Education. "We want our citizens to be in the vanguard of the new world order" said Rosa Luxemborg today.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:22:58 AM

      Why shouldn't we strive to improve our children's chances in the world? I don't get this one; you're slipping, jose.

  • Posted By: josemarti @ 10/14/2008 6:26:06 PM

    McCain will not defeat Obama. Americans' pride, self-respect, and dignity will.

    • Posted By: benkrapf @ 10/15/2008 10:21:27 AM

      Stick to puns and strained satire, jose. When you try to make a salient point, you make no sense.

    • Posted By: Kboogie @ 10/14/2008 6:57:03 PM

      Huh? What does that even mean? What about McCain, or his campaign, exhibits these characteristics?

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