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Where cutting back means ditching the private jet. How the superrich are surviving tough times.

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  • Posted By: YashBudini @ 12/10/2008 5:02:28 PM

    Don't expect the super rich to pay much in taxes over the next few years. They all have some dogs for investments. They can afford to offset their gains with losses. They can also downgrade from a Bentley to an ordinary Mecedes Benz. BooHoo.

  • Posted By: rteed @ 10/25/2008 11:49:30 PM

    Holly Peterson... Are you kidding me??? You want us to feel sorry for all the rich patrons of Swifty's? Where to start...10,000 dollar dresses, 250,000-400,000 paintingus, and god forbid your seen in that same dress twice!!! You commented on how the rich would lose self-esteem, confidence and god forbid "HOPE"....PLEASE....are you for real??? this is the worst article at the worst time that i can remember!!! I can not pay my bills , let alone pay for gas, but .... oh my god...Holly and all her(poor friends) can"t afford a cocktail!! I HOPE HOLLY..... YOU CAN PICK UP ON THE SARCASM..YOUR ARTICLE WAS A JOKE....... AND IF YOU REALLY THINK THAT WE SHOULD FEEL SORRY FOR THE RICH.........THEN YOU ARE MORE CLUELESS THEN YOUR ARTICLE SEEMS TO SAY

    • Posted By: intelajeent_liberal @ 12/09/2008 10:27:38 AM

      If you can???t pay your bills then you???ve somehow managed to acquire a lower net worth than someone who lives in a third world country. It???s the unintelligent people like you, those who have probably lived beyond their means for years, who are to blame for this country???s economic mess. I bet your IQ is so low that you love Obama just as much as you love spending money you don???t have. That???s why I hope you reelect him in four years, so when his socialistic policies fail miserably and unemployment skyrockets to 20% just as it was for FDR nearly a decade after black Tuesday. (Stupid people like you probably aren???t aware that Hitler did more to end the Great Depression than a big government spending package could have ever done.) Maybe if we see a real economic crisis you people can either wise up or die off.

  • Posted By: jmarraccino @ 12/05/2008 6:22:15 PM

    Boo Hoo!

    Its time for all to meet the Lord. Death awaits us all. You want the East side to hear something>? Their fear is the sound of their sin. REPENT and be saved, live by the principals of the Bible, that is my advice. It is your only saving graCE.

  • Posted By: kme919 @ 11/12/2008 2:30:30 PM

    Ms. Peterson,
    This information would have been better served to your friends at Swifty's in a sympathy card; not to the rest of America who have been battling to stay afloat. For American's who have lived simple and worked hard and lost 90% of their 401K (their only savings); your comments are abrasive and untimely. For American's who are having trouble keeping a roof over their heads and feeding their families; you seem out of touch and insensitive. For those who have growing children and are searching for their next pair of shoes at the local charity, your time spent writing this article is maddening. You were not writing and appealing to the masses; you were writing for a few city blocks and felt the need to post it for the nation? I think the article directly reflects your inability to capture the scene of the times.

  • Posted By: buddaman71 @ 11/11/2008 12:41:51 PM

    People with value systems like this caused this collapse.

  • Posted By: SVnDallas @ 11/06/2008 12:49:52 PM

    I haven't spent $10,000 on my clothes over a 45 year life span, much less on one dress. No I don't feel sorry for those people. They step on people like us, they aren't losing anything.

  • Posted By: Notaneastsider @ 10/25/2008 5:55:03 PM

    YGTBFKM!!!! "a certain socialite whose outfits are studied like a bar exam ..." and can afford to wear a $10,000 dress once and then "donate" it to charity needs our (the poor) sympathy!! God forbid that she has to wear last years' outfit to 2008 gala and the outfit was photographed last year. The rich do live in a different world and good for them. But do not expect the other 95% of the population to care. Most of us can not afford a plane ticket and the wealthy think they are doing us (the other 95%) a favor by flying commercial, is a slap in the face.

  • Posted By: burtmanjack @ 10/23/2008 6:08:32 PM

    The author is the daughter of a billionaire. Cry me a river. Think those who are losing are their homes might be losing some self esteem, confidence, and hope along with them? Unbelievable. And I live on the Upper East Side, too, lest you think I'm anti-rich . . .

  • Posted By: rwilson1787 @ 10/17/2008 10:48:14 AM

    "remember many of these families face losing almost everything they've worked for over decades, or even generations"

    Just wanted to point out a couple of potential flaws in the verbiage, above, both having to do with the term "work." First, we assume that the East Sliders gained their wealth through work. Of course, not all did. And, as we all know so well now, many of them did work that was to the great disadvantage of our country. The second problem has to do with the implication that a "family" can work over generations. I would think it would be fairly clear to the author that generations of a family can work over generations. However, a particular family in this particular point in time, will most normally work during the lifetime of the worker in question.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/17/2008 1:42:20 AM

    Whether McCain won or lost is not relevant. He succeeded in the first half hour to plant the seeds of a Reagan style wipeout. Reputable historians and economists overwhelmingly agree that the taxation imposed by and the "stimulus" spending and public works programs of FDR actually deepened and prolonged the Great Depression. See e.g. http://newsroom.ucla.edu/portal/ucla/FDR-s-Policies-Prolonged-Depression-5409.aspx. It was the production demands of WWII that got the economy going again. And when the war was over, the economy promptly went into recession.

    Point is, Obama's programs are tax and spend, and it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    Similarly, who "Joe the plumber" is is not the issue. The issue is what Obama's comments to him revealed. In the exchange with "Joe the plumber" we find out that Obama really is as radical as his early political acquaintances, and that he is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Reid and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive without and effective restraint, and you have something that should be something that causes concern even among moderate Democrats. Don't think so? Watch and listen to a C-SPAN video clip of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCain's attempt at S.190. to fix fannie and freddie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/16/2008 8:15:03 PM

    Baby I'll be there to take your hand,
    Baby I'll be there to share the land
    That they'll be giving away, when we all live together.

    So, in the exchange with "Joe the plumber" we find out that Obama really is as radical as his early political acquaintances, and is into the failed economic policy of wealth redistribution. Yahoo, back to the 70's we go! So now we know that an Obama presidency really would be as if it were Carter's lost second term after all.

  • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/14/2008 2:12:15 PM

    i keep coming back here to read bits of the article and the comments thereafter....it only makes me feel more sick every time i see what you wrote... i have a challenge for you, leave the area you live in and see the other side of things. wear your "worst" clothing, buy a 1,000 dollar car, get a job for a week working at walmart, rent an apartment for 6 months, a REAL apartment with only 300-600 sq ft. and do the daily routine that all us peasants do everyday to make our ends meet. this is a genuine challenge. i mean, its not like your going to lose anything right? you have millions and millions right? so this would be a sociological experiment for you, and im positive you can spare the time...and lets make it a solid 3 months, you pay car insurance, rent, bills, medical bills w/o insurance, and get this, your spending for a whole month is a mere $2,000. lets see you budget your money and effectively survive on our level. since you can just pay someone to clean, pay someone to drive, pay someone to cook, pay someone to pay things for you, and pay someone to manage what your paying for...come to our level where we do all that ourselves on top of work for pricks like you...and feed multiple mouths while attempting to put that little extra hard earned cash away for a "rainy day fund" or that "college fund" that the youth needs so desperately... or put money into a struggling small "mom and pops" store, or anything for christ sake...people like you are excactly why i spit and *** on expensive cars and material possesions... A GOD DAMN $10,000 DRESS WORN ONCE AND THROWN AWAY OR "DONATED"? that defies all logic. you defy the basic laws of morality, of human value...you spit on the common folk with this article...it was a mistake letting this get published ill tell you that, your pissing alot of people off with that nose thats stuck so high in the air...someone might just break that pretty plastic nose right off if your not careful what you say in this kind of economic climate...

    • Posted By: Smouse @ 10/15/2008 6:30:46 PM

      I think the point of the article is that the author needs YOU to "let a little humanity kick in" because she doesn't have the faintest idea how to do that.

      • Posted By: nimodahooligan @ 10/16/2008 4:47:21 PM

        i can definately let "a little humanity KICK IN for her", give me an address and she can get a singing telogram from my size 14 work boot to her mouth...

  • Posted By: cani77 @ 10/11/2008 6:12:37 PM

    In a few weeks we will make a choice that will decide our future.
    I follow an economist named Bob Proctor. He has called the top and bottom of every market crash since the 70s correctly.
    Also, he perfectly predicted the current real estate market meltdown and the picture he paints about what will happen in the next couple years
    is terrifying.He thinks it will be worse then the great depression.
    The banks in the U.S. are going under one after the other. Countrywide ,Bear Stearns, Lehman Brothers and Merrill Lynch , Fanny and Freddy Mae ,AIG
    The government took them over because they are essentially bankrupt. Even with the goverment nationalizing hundreds of billions of dollars in debt the stock market is crashing
    the credit markets are frozen and all of us may suffer beyond anything in the last 80 years.
    McCain just like Bush " doesn't understand the economy".
    That not just my opinion its his own words. Not only does he not understand how to fix it but he does not understand exactly what is broken.
    It is no surprise that he doesn't. The people that make up these securities use complex mathematical models very few people understand.
    Bush and McCain both can take the credit for this mess since they helped deregulate the laws that were protecting us.
    Bush's economic advisor Phil Graham wrote the deregulation bill that allowed banks to take huge risks with all of our future.
    Now, Phil Graham is the head of McCain's economic policy.He is also McCain's choice for the next secretary of the treasury.
    No one in this country can afford for that to happen. The last time Bush met with his economic advisors was in March. He didnt realize that anything was wrong. Phil Graham had the guts to say that we are in a mental recession after he helped create the worst economy meltdown in our lifetime. Check out this link to the truth http://my.barackobama.com/keatingvideo
    It will take the best and brightest minds in the world to get us out of this nightmare. As bad as Bush has done, McCain would be
    even more destructive because things are in much worse shape. The next president will not inherit a surplus like Bush did but a crashing economy and a 11,600,000,000,000 (trillion) dollars deficit. Most of it Bush created and it will take decades to pay it back.
    If you do what you have always done then you will get what you have always got.
    When it comes to policy Bush and McCain are the same 90 percent of the time.
    So why are the polls even close then ?
    Mccains team just said they no longer want to talk about the economy.Instead they would like to spend time talking about obama
    which means running the biggest smear campaign in history.
    They think they can just tell you lies and you wont be smart enough to see through it
    Let's teach him we are smarter than that .
    Elect Obama Biden 2008


    Check out this video of sarah palins interview and ask your self if she understands what she is talking about.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r36Xc0GG4iQ

    • Posted By: trimm25 @ 10/13/2008 9:24:05 PM

      I'm all for Obama myself, but do you have to post on every single article with the same thing?

      • Posted By: Too late smart @ 10/13/2008 11:49:14 PM

        Every time anyone proposes raising the upper bracket income and estate taxes some lackey screams that how unfair that would be because the rich create all the jobs and wealth. Wrong! The rich and powerfull do not want full employment because wages would go up. They keep almost all of the wealth that others actually create.

        • Posted By: habitforming @ 10/16/2008 1:47:02 PM

          OMG too late smart (10/13 @ 11:14:14 PM), be careful! People don't like it when you tell the truth.

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/16/2008 12:18:53 AM

    Whether McCain won or lost tonight is not relevant. He succeeded in the first half hour to plant the seeds of a Reagan style wipeout. Reputable historians and economists overwhelmingly agree that the taxation imposed by and the ???stimulus??? spending and public works programs of FDR actually deepened and prolonged the Great Depression. It was the production demands of WWII that got the economy going again. And when the war was over, the economy promptly went into recession.

    Point is, Obama's programs are tax and spend, and it does not really matter who he taxes, those taxes are going to be passed through the economy. Any first year economics student knows that taxation is a tool used to contract an economy experiencing inflation, because it reduces demand by reducing the amount of money individuals and businesses have to spend. It is contractionary, which is exactly what you do not want to do when the problem is that the economy is contracting already into recession. Like FDR, Obama's plans will only make it worse for longer.

    Obama's tax and spending plans alone would be bad enough, but add Wright and Pelosi to the mix, with the three of them controlling both houses of Congress and the executive without and effective restraint, and you have something that should be something that causes concern even among moderate Democrats. Don't think so? Watch and listen to a C-SPAN video clip of the Congressional hearings at roughly the time McCain's attempt at S.190. to fix fannie and freddie.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_MGT_cSi7Rs

    • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/16/2008 1:44:17 PM

      Sorry, meant Reid, not Wright.

  • Posted By: Jim Johnson @ 10/16/2008 1:42:35 PM

    Obama's view of the future of America - Socialism which is the next step to Communism!!


    Under socialism a ruling class of intellectuals, bureaucrats and social planners decide what people want or what is good for society and then use the coercive power of the State to regulate, tax, and redistribute the wealth of those who work for a living. In other words, socialism is a form of legalized theft.

    The morality of socialism can be summed-up in two words: envy and self-sacrifice. Envy is the desire to not only possess another's wealth but also the desire to see another's wealth lowered to the level of one's own. Socialism's teaching on self-sacrifice was nicely summarized by two of its greatest defenders, Hermann Goering and Bennito Mussolini. The highest principle of Nazism (National Socialism), said Goering, is: "Common good comes before private good." Fascism, said
    Mussolini, is "a life in which the individual, through the sacrifice of his own private interests??realizes that completely spiritual existence in which his value as a man lies."

    Socialism is the social system which institutionalizes envy and self-sacrifice: It is the social system which uses compulsion and the organized violence of the State to expropriate wealth from the producer class for its redistribution to the parasitical class.

    Despite the intellectuals' psychotic hatred of capitalism, it is the only moral and just social system.

    Capitalism is the only moral system because it requires human beings to deal with one another as traders--that is, as free moral agents trading and selling goods and services on the basis of mutual consent.

    Capitalism is the only just system because the sole criterion that determines the value of thing exchanged is the free, voluntary, universal judgement of the consumer. Coercion and fraud are anathema to the free-market system.

    It is both moral and just because the degree to which man rises or falls in society is determined by the degree to which he uses his mind. Capitalism is the only social system that rewards merit, ability and achievement, regardless of one's birth or station in life.

    Yes, there are winners and losers in capitalism. The winners are those who are honest, industrious, thoughtful, prudent, frugal, responsible, disciplined, and efficient. The losers are those who are shiftless, lazy, imprudent, extravagant, negligent, impractical, and inefficient. [What about the role of luck­being in the right place at the right time or the wrong place at the wrong time? R. R. Pope}

    Capitalism is the only social system that rewards virtue and punishes vice. This applies to both the business executive and the carpenter, the lawyer and the factory worker.

  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 10/15/2008 9:04:30 AM

    Tax Revenue is down because we sent 10 million jobs overseas. Duh? The rich? No one has any money to buy their products anymore. People won't go to movies much anymore, no buying expensive organic products, no more new car buying. People are already brewing their own coffee at home. A few business' will do well, bars and fast foods. Even pet stores and pastry shops will suffer until we bring the jobs back.

  • Posted By: phiomalibumalibu @ 10/15/2008 8:58:59 AM

    Tax Revenue is down because we sent 10 million jobs overseas. Duh? The rich? No one has any money to buy their products anymore. People won't go to movies much anymore, no buying expensive organic products, no more new car buying. People are already brewing their own coffee at home. A few business' will do well, bars and fast foods. Even pet stores and pastry shops will suffer until we bring the jobs back.

  • Posted By: williambanzai7 @ 10/15/2008 2:27:58 AM

    Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    (to the melody of Big Rock Candy Mountains)
    Lyrics By WilliamBanzai7


    One evening as the DOW went down and the ABX was burning
    Down the track came a banker hiking and he said boys I'm not turning
    I'm headin for a land that's far away from Wall Street's crystal towers
    So come with me we'll go and see the Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains there's a land that's fair and bright
    Where the handouts grow from the bailout pros and you sleep sound every night
    Where the ABS books are all empty and the sun shines every day
    On the birds and the bees and the bonus trees
    Where the perrier springs where the squawk box sings
    In the Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains all the regulators have wooden legs
    And the shorts all have rubber teeth and the taxpayers lay golden eggs
    The traders books are full of fruit and the bankers play all day
    Oh, I'm bound to go where there ain't no snow
    Where the rain don't fall and the wind don't blow
    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains you never sell your stocks
    And the glimmering streams of origination fees come a-trickling down the rocks
    The enforcers have to tip their hats and the bears and shorts are banned
    There's a lake of stew and of champagne too
    You can sail all around 'em in your custom yachts
    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    In Bush's Rock Candy Mountains white collar jails are made of tin
    And you can walk right out again as soon as you are in
    There ain't no short handled shovels, no axes saws or picks
    I'm a goin to stay where you sleep all day
    Where they hung that jerk from Berkshire Hathaway
    In Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

    I'll see you all this coming fall in Bush's Big Rock Candy Mountains

  • Posted By: Nowforthetruth @ 10/15/2008 12:20:58 AM

    "Press Releases

    AJC Strongly Condemns Rev. Jesse Jackson's Comment on American Jews
    October 14, 2008 - New York - The American Jewish Committee (AJC) has condemned the Rev. Jesse Jackson's statement about 'Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades.'
    "Rev. Jackson's remarks, which appeared in an interview with the journalist Amir Taheri in today's New York Post, echo classic anti-Semitic conspiracy theories about Jewish power," said AJC Executive Director David A. Harris. 'This statement, regrettably, is not the first troubling comment by Rev. Jackson regarding Israel, Zionism and the Jewish people.'

    Arguing as a private citizen that an Obama administration could bring significant change to U.S. foreign policy, Jackson was quoted as saying that "Zionists who have controlled American policy for decades" would lose much of their influence should Senator Obama be elected president."


    http://www.ajc.org/site/apps/nlnet/content2.aspx?c=ijITI2PHKoG&b=849241&ct=6107743

    And people are upset about raciest comments some in the crowd are allegedly saying at Palin events? Isn't this the same Democrat leader who once called New York "Hymietown"?

  • Posted By: PKay52 @ 10/14/2008 4:47:19 PM

    As Phil Gramm said, "they'er just a bunch of whiners"

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