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Pro-Life Catholics For Obama

Should abortion be the litmus test for political support?

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  • Posted By: A*Ashby @ 02/01/2009 7:41:52 PM

    Ohh...and those ten thousand gods...that was more mythology than religion! HAHAHA

  • Posted By: A*Ashby @ 02/01/2009 3:40:10 AM

    Exactly...who cares except for Catholics! So if your not a Catholic why are you even taking the time to read an article directed towards Catholics. I am a part of this religion and I found this article to be very helpful to me, but of course its a moral and religious issue for us. So if it doesn't pertain to you then don't waste your time on here. As far as Noah's Ark goes and REALITY.....if you were somewhat smart you would know that religion can also coincide with science and if you go back that many years, not even one tenth of our species was actually developed yet...BEETLES most likely didn't even exist! So PLEASE don't take your average Children's Bible with the pictures of two lions and two zebras walking onto the ark and think that every animal in the world was on there..these are examples. By the way, do you major in anything?

  • Posted By: AVI8TR @ 01/29/2009 12:07:37 AM

    Why are you so sure the Cathoilics even care, but come on, the rest of us could care less what this morally bannkrupt medieval cult thinks. Why should we?? Oh Constatine, look what you created.

  • Posted By: hyjanks @ 01/28/2009 6:08:06 PM

    Can Catholics back Obama? Who cares except for Catholics?
    Look, folks. With the information and instant communication age upon us, religion will finally be subject to the scrutiny it deserves. And when even moderately intelligent people with a computer and Internet service start to come across all the information available about religion, they will start to ask questions like . . .
    Hmmmm. It states here on religoushokum. com that there have been ten thousand religions since recorded history. What happened to those ten thousand gods? Where are they buried? If most of them no longer exist, what does that say about the future of our current crop of gods?
    Hmmmm. It says here on reality.com that Noah's ark couldn't hold a pair of each kind of beetle that ever existed. How could his ark have quartered every species of animal?
    You see what I mean? Religion is about to die simply because of INFORMATION available for free in massive doses.
    If Catholicism and every other religion wants to continue to fool people, they'd better find a way to destroy the Internet.
    Yeah!

  • Posted By: OZZmosis71 @ 01/27/2009 1:05:51 PM

    d_in_abq I couldnt agree with you more. It seems if Catholics were really a Christian organization then they would stay out of politics completely. Well cant really say Catholics are really brainy anyways as for they don't understand the simple phrase in the bible "MOREOVER , DO NOT CALL ANYONE ON EARTH YOUR FATHER, FOR ONE IS YOUR FATHER THE HEAVENLY ONE" Matthew 23:9

  • Posted By: d_in_abq @ 01/27/2009 3:07:00 AM

    What angers me, is why anything the Catholic church says is even relevant today? It's a morally bankrupt misogynistic institution that doesn't speak for me and I don't want it making public policy. Anti-abortion is about punishing women, not about protecting unborn children. If a women is pregnant, she had sex and childbirth is her punishment. (One can only hope child-support payments are the man's punishment). Abortions still happen even in countries with strict laws against it. Rich women can usually get a safe abortion and the poor take their chances.

    For every story about a family that can't feed their children, or provide medical care, or good schools or safe neighborhoods, there are always people who will say "they shouldn't have had children". Maybe this is why the "pro-life" republicans haven't succeeded in a total ban on abortion.

    I don't hear the pro-lifers asking where the health care is for pregnant women and children? How about living wages, safe neighborhoods or affordable child care? Like I said, it's really about punishing women. After all, we can't be burned at the stake for being witches anymore.

  • Posted By: alvatoresa @ 01/26/2009 8:38:47 PM

    fifty million and counting KILLED

  • Posted By: remrocky @ 11/29/2008 7:21:35 PM

    Balogna!!! Abortion on demand is a moral ethical evil. If you want to lay this battle, unfairly, at the our doorstep, so be it,. It is a struglle whichyou wish was over but has only begun. Why does it fall on any church to stand up for the right to ife when it should be an overwhelming national matter. Quit the battle if you are so gutless; for me the endeavor to reverse Roe versus Wade goes on.

  • Posted By: ruthem @ 11/14/2008 6:15:45 PM

    To those who believe the Republican Party is anti-abortion and therefore, pro-life, I'd like to offer this "new idea." They may run on that platform, but since they have had all the power for many years, where is the proposal for a Constitutional Amendment? None has been brought forward. They know it will never pass. It has less support than the ERA, and that couldn't get the total states necessary. They have the judges, but they know quite well that no combination of Supreme Court Justices in REALLY going to go against precedence and overturn Roe-v-Wade. Then there is the matter of the TOTAL hypocrisy of the Republicans. If access to abortion ended in the USA, their wives and mistresses would just go across the border or to Europe when they wanted an abortion. REAL pro-life policies come from the Democratic Party. The most important to actually reduce abortions even if the laws never change are matters of aid, medical care, justice, living wages, equal opportunity, education, etc.; i.e. all the things needed to help a woman bring an unexpected pregnancy to term. Republicans care nothing for the poor or desperate, but I know plenty of liberal Catholics who work very hard to reduce the desire or perceived "need" for abortions, not by calling people murderers, but by giving real in-the-trenches help to pregnant, desperate women. Where is the anti-abortion, not pro-life, Republican Party on the entire range of issues? Spare me the dogmatic stands, and look at the truth of what's really going on.

  • Posted By: paul_k_666 @ 11/09/2008 7:31:49 AM

    If a "faithful Catholic" cannot vote for a pro-choice candidate, how can you justify voting for a pro-death penalty candidate? The Catholic Church is also anti-death penalty.

  • Posted By: auntdonna58 @ 11/08/2008 9:07:34 PM

    God have mercy on all of us who compromise our principles for our pocketbook.

  • Posted By: auntdonna58 @ 11/08/2008 9:06:27 PM

    How could all of you as "faithful Catholics" believe and vote the way that you did. I just recently converted to catholicism because it is the one faith that stands by its moral codes. Those codes don't evolve over time as with other denominations. A vote for Obama, based on my recent teachings, my parrish priest, and the Pope, was a vote against life. There is no rationalization. So be proud of your vote, but don't use your faith to rationalize your decision.

  • Posted By: phoenixrising @ 11/05/2008 11:25:54 AM

    In this day and age, I don't understand why abortion is still an issue. I'm a former Catholic, and the pro-Obama arguments laid out in this article make complete sense. We non-Catholics were wondering when Catholics would understand that pro-life is a sweeping idea, and it encompasses policies about war, poverty, hunger and foreign policy. On these issues, I agree with the pro-life stance; I am, however, pro-choice, as it's a life-altering decision best left to the woman, her doctors, and her higher power. If you don't want abortion around, instead of attempting to ban it, it's easier and more reasonable to support policies that will reduce the number of abortions. We on the pro-choice side also wish to reduce the number of abortions and unplanned pregnancies - we have been waiting for those on the pro-life side to join us in supporting birth control, pre-natal care and accurate sex education. Kids raised in abstinence-only households are more likely to need emergency contraception and/or abortions after having sex for the first time without any knowledge of how to prevent pregnancy or transmission of STDs. Please join us in our battle to reduce abortions! We more than welcome your time, effort and support.

    • Posted By: Anselmo @ 11/05/2008 7:33:21 PM

      If you really were a catholic please read about ???theology of the body???, study it and then maybe you will understand why we oppose other sex education than abstinence. Is not because we are old fashion or too conservative, as a matter of fact we have profound theological reasons in why we think and act that way. Please take the time to understand before criticizing us in a condescending way.

  • Posted By: bhlanger @ 11/05/2008 4:20:19 PM

    phoenixrising...you state, " that abstinence-only households are more likely...etc". and invite pro-lifers to join the cause. I would be interested in knowing where you are getting your "facts" regarding abstinence based households... Is your statement merely your opinion, or are you quoting a scientifc study that has be conducted.

  • Posted By: DrJoe @ 11/05/2008 3:39:41 PM

    As a Catholic and a father, it is my responsibility to teach my children that abortion is wrong. It is also the Catholic Church's responsibility to provide the context for that teaching. It is my government's responsibility to provide safety and security and freedom to me and my church to teach matters of our faith and conscience. I supported and voted for Barack Obama, and my conscience is not only clear but downright prideful in my choice.

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/04/2008 2:44:04 PM

    Senator McCain was prochoice until 2004.

    McCain said in 2002 he said he was NOT willing to overturn Roe and Wade because,
    "X number of women would die in dangerous" operations.
    This is one of the important reasons for being prochoice.

    There are spiritual ideals, big ones involved here.
    But we will not decrease human suffering, in fact we will increase human suffering,
    if we outlaw and make illegal
    those among us who are unable to live up to those ideals.

    This is being truly human. This is acknowledging the human condition and its difficult realities for
    all human beings.

  • Posted By: it's about the future @ 11/04/2008 2:43:52 PM

    Senator McCain was prochoice until 2004.

    McCain said in 2002 he said he was NOT willing to overturn Roe and Wade because,
    "X number of women would die in dangerous" operations.
    This is one of the important reasons for being prochoice.

    There are spiritual ideals, big ones involved here.
    But we will not decrease human suffering, in fact we will increase human suffering,
    if we outlaw and make illegal
    those among us who are unable to live up to those ideals.

    This is being truly human. This is acknowledging the human condition and its difficult realities for
    all human beings.

  • Posted By: staweeze @ 11/04/2008 10:38:11 AM

    Anyone, Catholic or not, needs to vote against pro-choice. I can not even believe that this is an issue, much less something that needs to be voted on. Where are the morals that should prevent people from killing innocent babies?

  • Posted By: slbrookerd @ 11/04/2008 9:30:05 AM

    I can sympathize with the horrors of war and I am grieved at every serviceman or woman that gives their life. But let us remember two things: The numbers of service people who have perished in the Iraqi conflict is a small fraction of the number of babies that will be aborted in the next four years, and secondly, military personnel are adults who, with overwhelming majority volunteered their services with the knowledge they could be called overseas. Aborted children have no choice, no rights at all.

  • Posted By: rosary4life @ 11/04/2008 7:47:34 AM

    NO CATHOLIC THAT VOTES FOR A PROCHOICE CANDIDATE UNLESS THERE ARE ONLY TWO PROCHOICE CANDIDATES RUNNING CAN VOTE FOR THAT CANDIDATE AND CONTINUE TO CALL THEMSELVES CATHOLIC. IF THE LATTER SHOULD BE THE CASE THEN AND ONLY THEN CAN A CATHOLIC VOTE FOR THE LESSER OF THE TWO EVILS. MEANING THE ONE WHO SUPPORTS LIFE MORE THAN THE OTHER. IF WE DON'T HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE MY FRIENDS, THEN WHAT RIGHTS DO WE HAVE?

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